Wade 09

[Jlamb47]

Wade - 09
30.2ppg 5rpg 7.5apg 2.2spg 1.3bpg 491fg%

Thats just some crazy numbers for someone whose jumpshot isnt all so great. I was just looking at his stats and saw this season. I forgot how dominant Wade was.

[buddha]

arguably better than LeBrons peak.

[Jlamb47]

arguably better than LeBrons peak.

i actually agree.
his defense is what makes him so great. 2.2 steals plus 1.3 blocks thats just amazing. plus playmaking. Lebron Peak is crazy as well tho and longer

[rhowen4]

he had his best shooting from midrange that year (besides this year)

also, "dominant"

[Jlamb47]

he had his best shooting from midrange that year (besides this year)

also, "dominant"

I just dont get how u can have a jumpshot and lose it
most nba players improve while time goes

[RoseCity07]

Easily better than Kobe.

[atljonesbro]

Easily better than Kobe.
Not even a question. Kobe couldn't compare to that in 1 million years

[Magic 32]

Not even a question. Kobe couldn't compare to that in 1 million years

Too bad the Hawks could.

[Jlamb47]

CP3 was better that year tbh. But Wade was definitely dominant. CP3, LeBron, and Wade all peaked that season. Unfortunate, they all desetved an MVP.

yeah Cp3 was great
Cp3 - 09
22.8ppg 5.5rpg 11apg 2.8spg 0.1bpg 50.3fg%

pretty beast as well

[Mass Debator]

I just dont get how u can have a jumpshot and lose it
most nba players improve while time goes
Knee problems affecting his lift. You can see his jumper looking sharper as he's getting healthier and healthier.

[bballnoob1192]

yeah Cp3 was great
Cp3 - 09
22.8ppg 5.5rpg 11apg 2.8spg 0.1bpg 50.3fg%

pretty beast as well
xcept he lost to the nuggets by 58 points :facepalm

[Jlamb47]

[QUOTE=Mass Debator]Knee problems affecting his lift. You can see his jumper looking sharper as he's getting healthier and healthier.[/QUO

oh okay, i do hear legs is a big part of a jumpshot.

[Jameerthefear]

Wade - 09
30.2ppg 5rpg 7.5apg 2.2spg 1.3bpg 491fg%

Thats just some crazy numbers for someone whose jumpshot isnt all so great. I was just looking at his stats and saw this season. I forgot how dominant Wade was.
headass

[Jlamb47]

headass

awesome post

[Akrazotile]

Remember, if your team doesn't win anything your stats are empty.

[Jameerthefear]

awesome post
headass

[Jlamb47]

headass

no wonder everyone on here calls u a queer

[Micku]

Wade - 09
30.2ppg 5rpg 7.5apg 2.2spg 1.3bpg 491fg%

Thats just some crazy numbers for someone whose jumpshot isnt all so great. I was just looking at his stats and saw this season. I forgot how dominant Wade was.

He did have a jumpshot that year. His midrange game was good. He shot 42% from the midrange that year. After that year he lost his shot. Very weird. As another person mention, maybe it had something to do with is knees. I dunno.

This year, his midrange game is better than ever tho.

[Jlamb47]

He did have a jumpshot that year. His midrange game was good. He shot 42% from the midrange that year. After that year he lost his shot. Very weird. As another person mention, maybe it had something to do with is knees. I dunno.

This year, his midrange game is better than ever tho.

Yeah i notice it in the post season. I guess that lift helped his jumpshot alot
I wonder how his game iwll be in the next 2 years

[Jacks3]

Not even a question. Kobe couldn't compare to that in 1 million years
Kobe 2003: 30/7/6/2+/1 on better efficiency. :oldlol:

[K Xerxes]

arguably better than LeBrons peak.

Bron's athletic peak from 09-10 and mental/skills peak from 12-present are quite clearly better than 09 Wade. That's not to say peak Wade wasn't ridiculously good, I'd probably put him around Kobe's level.

[atljonesbro]

Kobe 2003: 30/7/6/2+/1 on better efficiency. :oldlol:
How is 55 ts% better than 57? Kobetards:facepalm .

He had worse stats too and far worse defense

[Dresta]

Wade has had a great mid-range game since his 2nd season:

http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=2548&Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&display-mode=performance

But when his knees are hurt he becomes a terrible shooter full stop.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe will be remembered as a better player(rightfully so) but Kobe fans or Laker fans can gtfo :lol . Kobe can't touch Dwade's peak. It ain't close.

yeah Kobe's 15 years of sustained elite play isn't touching one year :roll:

[Jacks3]

How is 55 ts% better than 57? Kobetards:facepalm .

He had worse stats too and far worse defense
These ignorant fools...the league average defense in 2003 was significantly higher than it was in 2009. Kobe's TS% relative to league average was higher.

So yeah, he was more efficient.

30/7/6/2+/1 with 5 triple-doubles/20 40+ point games in the GOAT defensive era?

Easily better than anything Wade has done.

[Jacks3]

Kobe will be remembered as a better player(rightfully so) but Kobe fans or Laker fans can gtfo :lol . Kobe can't touch Dwade's peak. It ain't close.
:oldlol:

[Dresta]

These ignorant fools...the league average defense in 2003 was significantly higher than it was in 2009. Kobe's TS% relative to league average was higher.

So yeah, he was more efficient.

30/7/6/2+/1 with 5 triple-doubles/20 40+ point games in the GOAT defensive era?

Easily better than anything Wade has done.
Maybe in your deluded mind. I guess we should adjust all those 60s efficiency stats as well because the defense was so damn good. Wilt really shot 75% - Lazerus and the Cavs guy will be happy

:hammerhead:

[ArbitraryWater]

Maybe in your deluded mind. I guess we should adjust all those 60s efficiency stats as well because the defense was so damn good. Wilt really shot 75% - Lazerus and the Cavs guy will be happy

:hammerhead:

:oldlol:

this.. russell didnt really shoot 44%, lets adjust the stats... oh wait, goddamn bill was incredibly efficient! 50% and higher!

he actually made more shots than he missed during his career! box scores got it wrong...

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Don't make me angry about it again.

Wade was robbed of the All-Defense 1st team selection that year. Kobe got it on reputation, he didn't deserve it.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Don't make me angry about it again.

Wade was robbed of the All-Defense 1st team selection that year. Kobe got it on reputation, he didn't deserve it.

there are 2 guard spots :rolleyes:

[Dresta]

there are 2 guard spots :rolleyes:
And CP3 got it over two guys who are clearly better defenders than him (Wade and Rondo). Defensive teams are usually popularity contests and no one really takes them seriously as a means of judging defensive ability tbh.

[TheMarkMadsen]

And CP3 got it over two guys who are clearly better defenders than him (Wade and Rondo). Defensive teams are usually popularity contests and no one really takes them seriously as a means of judging defensive ability tbh.

the media doesn't vote on these teams..

[PickernRoller]

Kobe>Wade>Lebron>Durant. Good sh1t Op.

[Dresta]

the media doesn't vote on these teams..
Yeah, but coaches often don't fill in their ballots, they hand them off to someone else to bother with. Still a popularity contest, as people vote for players they like. How else to explain Lebron having 5 1st team selections but not a single 2nd team selection. Kobe with 9 first team selections etc.

These guys are so clear-cut the most dominant defenders in the league night in night out are they? BULL-shit.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Yeah, but coaches often don't fill in their ballots, they hand them off to someone else to bother with.Still a popularity contest, as people vote for players they like. How else to explain Lebron having 5 1st team selections but not a single 2nd team selection. Kobe with 9 first team selections etc.

These guys are so clear-cut the most dominant defenders in the league night in night out are they? BULL-shit.

proof of multiple years where 90% of the coaches didn't fill out their ballots?

[Dresta]

proof of multiple years where 90% of the coaches didn't fill out their ballots?
Don't know where you expect me to find 'proof' of this, but it's been said by people in the know many times.

Here's George Karl saying it himself:

[QUOTE]I

[TheMarkMadsen]

Don't know where you expect me to find 'proof' of this, but it's been said by people in the know many times.

Here's George Karl saying it himself:



'enlisted the help' means 'gave it to them to do' and assistants are gonna put their favourite guys down. Are you seriously arguing that CP3 was one of the best two defensive guards in the league? And he's won the award 3 times.


Don't know why I need proof?

Because you just claimed something so id like to see proof?

Sorry that your ass doesn't count as a source.

You claimed that coacheS, plural, often don't fill out their ballots and hand hem off to "someone else" as if this "someone else" was some joe blow off the street. Assistant coaches gameplan & scout just like the head coaches.. And all you've got is a former coach to back up your claim, and even then what you claimed clearly isn't what he said.

Unless of course, assistant coaches aren't credible..

You'd have an argument if Wade was consistently all D and then was left off of it a year or two, but when he's consistently left off in favor of two other guards every time your argument is pretty weak

[Haymaker]

I just dont get how u can have a jumpshot and lose it
most nba players improve while time goes

Can't get the proper lift anymore I guess.

[eliteballer]

Don't know where you expect me to find 'proof' of this, but it's been said by people in the know many times.

Here's George Karl saying it himself:



'enlisted the help' means 'gave it to them to do' and assistants are gonna put their favourite guys down. Are you seriously arguing that CP3 was one of the best two defensive guards in the league? And he's won the award 3 times.

how do you know what the assistants are thinking or not thinking?Not to mention many times they are former head coaches(or future head coaches) themselves:rolleyes:

[Dresta]

Yeah CP3 = elite defender, Steph Curry and Westbrook really struggled against him big time. Even Deron used to expose his defense and lack of size.

Honestly, do you watch basketball?

You've got him being chosen over a guy that can do this over just the course of one season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyzcDOzv18c

A guy who regularly blocks 7 footers at the rim, compared with a guy whose defense (lack of size) regularly gets exploited by opposing teams.

[eliteballer]

Blocking shots or getting steals doesn't mean you're a great defender. Learn the game.

I guess you'd take Iverson over Garnett.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Blocking shots or getting steals doesn't mean you're a great defender. Learn the game.

I guess you'd take Iverson over Garnett.


:roll: seriously

And why is this dude using THIS YEARS playoffs as evidence for why Cp3 didint deserve something 5 years ago..

Reaching much?

[dreamwarrior]

Wade was like an invisible superstar that year. I didn't even know his name until Bron came to Miami.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Wade had a crazy year, in 2009, flat-out balling.

[Dresta]

Blocking shots or getting steals doesn't mean you're a great defender. Learn the game.

I guess you'd take Iverson over Garnett.
No, but protecting the rim is extremely important. Garnett protects the rim. As does Wade. Iverson and CP3 do not. (they are actually considerably more similar defensively than Wade and Iverson)

[TheNaturalWR]

CP3 was better that year tbh. But Wade was definitely dominant. CP3, LeBron, and Wade all peaked that season. Unfortunate, they all desetved an MVP.

No he wasn't.

[ZaaaaaH]

No, but protecting the rim is extremely important. Garnett protects the rim. As does Wade. Iverson and CP3 do not. (they are actually considerably more similar defensively than Wade and Iverson)

Wade protecting the rim now :lol

Some of these kids are full retards

[Micku]

Don't make me angry about it again.

Wade was robbed of the All-Defense 1st team selection that year. Kobe got it on reputation, he didn't deserve it.

2011 pissed me off more. Kobe got it over Tony Allen and Wade that year.

[Dresta]

Wade protecting the rim now :lol

Some of these kids are full retardsHow did Wade in his prime not protect the rim?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPauWh740gI

Wade led Miami in blocks the 08-09 season, and provided great rim protection. Moreover, at the end of games (in the clutch) that became elite rom protection.

See here:

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT16.HTM

Averaged 4.9 blocks per game per 48 minutes of crunch time, the same as Dwight Howard. Look at all the players around him on that list; they all provide great rim protection, and are a good 6 inches taller than him. This was a higher level of production than Chandler, Noah, Garnett, Smith, Okafor etc. If you don't think that is providing rim protection then you are one dumb piece of shit.