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Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 07:05 PM
Real dominance is measured in championships. I don't need to write an essay to prove Mikan was dominant. His championships speak for themselves. As for other players, essays might be needed for the lack of championships a player had won. Below is a list of year by year dominance of George Mikan in his prime.

1947 - NBL champion, NBL season scoring champion, All-NBL First Team

1948 - NBL champion, NBL season scoring champion, NBL MVP, All-NBL First Team

1949 - BAA champion, BAA season scoring champion, All-BAA First Team, BAA playoff scoring champion

1950 - NBA champion, NBA season scoring champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA playoff scoring champion

1951 - NBA season scoring champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star, NBA playoff scoring champion

1952 - NBA champion, NBA season rebounding champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star, NBA playoff scoring champion, NBA playoff rebounding champion

1953 - NBA champion, NBA season rebounding champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star, NBA All-Star Game MVP, NBA playoff rebounding champion

1954 - NBA champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star

navy
05-29-2014, 07:06 PM
Weak era.

Rocketswin2013
05-29-2014, 07:08 PM
Man if Mikan was in today's NBA Draft......




















You could probably get him in the late second and he'd be a good backup towelboy.

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 07:20 PM
Weak era.

Man if Mikan was in today's NBA Draft......

You could probably get him in the late second and he'd be a good backup towelboy.
Typical "Mikan-bashers".

atljonesbro
05-29-2014, 07:21 PM
Not much of an accomplishment when players couldn't even dribble with their left hand.

navy
05-29-2014, 07:22 PM
Mikan was a beast in his era. Wouldnt make a highschool team these days.

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 07:23 PM
Not much of an accomplishment when players couldn't even dribble with their left hand.
They could though, this is well known.

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 07:24 PM
Mikan was a beast in his era. Wouldnt make a highschool team these days.
He wouldn't be trying to make the highschool team. Why would he when he's dominating the NBA?

Denitron
05-29-2014, 07:26 PM
Groundskeeper Willie would have been just as dominant in this era

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 07:34 PM
Would Kevin Durant make the NBA in 2050?

I mean c'mon look at this twig.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/934/758/113908810_display_image.jpg

He wouldn't be able to withstand the physicality of the 2050 NBA.

Asukal
05-29-2014, 08:22 PM
I'm pretty sure you didn't watch Mikan play but I hope you don't get off to his accomplishments like those old perverts who "research" stats but never saw their boy play. :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
05-29-2014, 08:24 PM
Mikan commenting on a college kid in 1956...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2211&dat=19560303&id=ENUmAAAAIBAJ&sjid=owIGAAAAIBAJ&pg=2445,4482680

Asukal
05-29-2014, 08:35 PM
Mikan commenting on a college kid in 1956...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2211&dat=19560303&id=ENUmAAAAIBAJ&sjid=owIGAAAAIBAJ&pg=2445,4482680

That kid went on to win 11 rings and "dominated" all his competition. :oldlol:

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 08:39 PM
That kid went on to win 11 rings and "dominated" all his competition. :oldlol:
Russell the most dominant player of his own era :applause:

LAZERUSS
05-29-2014, 09:49 PM
That kid went on to win 11 rings and "dominated" all his competition. :oldlol:

Not quite. In fact, not even close. In fact, let's ask HIM who the greatest player was, shall we...


"Nobody seems to appreciate what an incredible player Wilt was," Russell said at 1997 All-Star Game when the league named and honored its 50 greatest players. "He was the best player of all time because he dominated the floor like nobody else ever could. To be that big and that athletic was special."

Wilt=GOAT

LAZERUSS
05-29-2014, 09:51 PM
Russell the most dominant player of his own era :applause:

First Team All-NBA Selections in their 10 seasons in the league together...

Russell: 2
Wilt: 7

Wilt=GOAT

Again...not even close.

Next...

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 09:56 PM
First Team All-NBA Selections in their 10 seasons in the league together...

Russell: 2
Wilt: 7

Wilt=GOAT

Again...not even close.

Next...
Apr 2013...

LAZERUSS
05-29-2014, 09:58 PM
Apr 2013...

And?

Wilt > Russell

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 10:01 PM
And?

Wilt > Russell
Banned account (jlauber)
Alts (Audio One, houston)
Main account is Apr 2013 - arguably the worst ISH class

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 10:02 PM
I still think you deserve a spot on the All-ISH team tbh

jlauber/LAZERUSS :applause:

LAZERUSS
05-29-2014, 10:04 PM
That kid went on to win 11 rings and "dominated" all his competition. :oldlol:

Who was the REAL greatest "winner" between Russell and Wilt?


And, using that WIN SHARES stat, here is the yearly breakdown between Russell and Wilt, in their 10 years in the league together...

'59-60: Wilt 17.0 (1), Russell 13.8 (2)
'60-61: Wilt 18.8 (1), Russell 13.0 (5)
'61-62: Wilt 23.1 (1), Russell 15.5 (4)
'62-63: Wilt 20.9 (1), Russell 13.5 (6)
'63-64: Wilt 25.0 (1), Russell 17.3 (3)
'64-65: Wilt 15.1 (4), Russell 16.9 (2) Oscar with 17.0 was (1)
'65-66: Wilt 21.4 (1), Russell 11.7 (4)
'66-67: Wilt 21.9 (1), Russell 12.2 (4)
'67-68: Wilt 20.4 (1), Russell 8.2 (NR)
'68-69: Wilt 14.7 (1), Russell 10.9 (7) Reed tied with Wilt at (1), and as a sidenote, Baylor was NR at 8.5, and West (9), at 10.8.

Rocketswin2013
05-29-2014, 10:05 PM
I still think you deserve a spot on the All-ISH team tbh

jlauber/LAZERUSS :applause:
The Alcindor/KAJ of today's era. The longevity.:applause: :applause:

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 10:16 PM
Who was the REAL greatest "winner" between Russell and Wilt?
The one with a 11 to 2 ring advantage :oldlol:

BTW

Mikan: 7
Wilt:2

Why?

LAZERUSS
05-29-2014, 10:17 PM
The one with a 11 to 2 ring advantage :oldlol:

BTW

Mikan: 7
Wilt:2

Why?

Because Wilt never had the good fortune to have faced Mikan in the post-season.

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 10:19 PM
Because Wilt never had the good fortune to have faced Mikan in the post-season.
Let's just say he was lucky he didn't.

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 10:20 PM
First Team All-NBA Selections in their 10 seasons in the league together...

Russell: 2
Wilt: 7

Wilt=GOAT

Again...not even close.

Next...
7-2...the advantage Mikan has on Wilt in championships.

Deuce Bigalow
05-29-2014, 10:24 PM
Mikan's got laz shook tbh

Asukal
05-29-2014, 10:46 PM
Really now its not even close. 11-2. 7-2. Bottom line is that guy just couldn't get it done despite all that physical advantage. GOAT with 2? I don't think so. :no:

Dr.J4ever
05-30-2014, 01:26 AM
Real dominance is measured in championships. I don't need to write an essay to prove Mikan was dominant. His championships speak for themselves. As for other players, essays might be needed for the lack of championships a player had won. Below is a list of year by year dominance of George Mikan in his prime.

1947 - NBL champion, NBL season scoring champion, All-NBL First Team

1948 - NBL champion, NBL season scoring champion, NBL MVP, All-NBL First Team

1949 - BAA champion, BAA season scoring champion, All-BAA First Team, BAA playoff scoring champion

1950 - NBA champion, NBA season scoring champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA playoff scoring champion

1951 - NBA season scoring champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star, NBA playoff scoring champion

1952 - NBA champion, NBA season rebounding champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star, NBA playoff scoring champion, NBA playoff rebounding champion

1953 - NBA champion, NBA season rebounding champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star, NBA All-Star Game MVP, NBA playoff rebounding champion

1954 - NBA champion, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Star
Kareem had the skyhook, and Wilt had a finger roll, so let me ask- what in your estimation was Mikan's go to shot?

Deuce Bigalow
05-30-2014, 02:54 AM
Kareem had the skyhook, and Wilt had a finger roll, so let me ask- what in your estimation was Mikan's go to shot?
The skyhook of course. Mikan was the originator of it.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/363/641/GeorgeMikan_display_image.jpg

Mikan also used his massive brute force much like Shaq to overwhelm his opponents under the basketball. He had both finesse and strength.

dankok8
05-30-2014, 02:18 PM
Pre shot-clock basketball really shouldn't count the same. Plus it really was an era of only white players and Mikan really was the one guy way ahead of everyone in strength, power, and coordination. In later eras even just 10 years later I firmly believe he'd still be a very effective player (HOFer...) but not the force he was back then.

Trollsmasher
05-30-2014, 02:23 PM
Can we stop comparing the players of the weak '60s to the Mighty Mikan?

It's an insult to Mr. Basketball.

Thank you.

Dresta
05-30-2014, 03:55 PM
I honestly don't know how anyone can think Wilt 'the choke artist' Chamberlain over George 'the pioneer and champion of the NBA' Mikan :facepalm

You'd have to be a complete stat nerd to believe such a thing.

sd3035
05-30-2014, 03:57 PM
Mikan's game transcends eras, Wilt the choker was overrated garbage

AnaheimLakers24
05-30-2014, 04:01 PM
great to know laker fans think mikan > loser "not top ten" bitch wilt

cost many teams titles including lakers. glad hes dead

Trollsmasher
05-30-2014, 04:05 PM
Mikan's genes > Wilt's genes

More athletic
white
Lived for 17 more years

Had 6 children, while Wilt had none. In 500 years, 25% of America will have Mikan's genes coursing through its veins. That shall be the second Golden Era after the Mikan Era:applause:

Trollsmasher
05-30-2014, 04:46 PM
Here's Mikan (on the right) outswagging the shit out of a random '60 scrub. Do you see the envy in Wilt's eyes? Mikan probably ploughed all the holes before him.

http://examiner-enterprise.com/sites/examiner-enterprise.com/files/styles/large/public/field/media/web1_10-1-13-Bob-Kurland%2C-Wilt%2C-MikanV.jpg

Notice that Wilt does not look more than inch taller than Mikan - another proof of '60 exaggerating the heights of the players

Dresta
05-30-2014, 08:21 PM
great to know laker fans think mikan > loser "not top ten" bitch wilt

cost many teams titles including lakers. glad hes dead
:lebronamazed:

Deuce Bigalow
05-30-2014, 08:24 PM
great to know laker fans think mikan > loser "not top ten" bitch wilt

cost many teams titles including lakers. glad hes dead
:oldlol:

RoundMoundOfReb
06-02-2014, 11:23 PM
Thread brought tears to my eyes and increased bloodflow to my ***** :applause:

Lettuce not forget that if the MVP award were in existence back thant Mikan would've had 7 or 8 in just 9 playing seasons. Mikan was truly the GOAT.

Deuce Bigalow
06-02-2014, 11:25 PM
Thread brought tears to my eyes and increased bloodflow to my ***** :applause:

Lettuce not forget that if the MVP award were in existence back thant Mikan would've had 7 or 8 in just 9 playing seasons. Mikan was truly the GOAT.
7 Finals MVPs as well :applause:

RoundMoundOfReb
06-02-2014, 11:33 PM
Some of what I remember:

Chicago American Gears (1946

Deuce Bigalow
06-02-2014, 11:47 PM
They always ask will there ever be another Michael Jordan? Another Babe Ruth? Wayne Gretzky? Muhammad Ali? Why do they never ask if there will ever be another George Mikan? Because they know there will never be another George Mikan. He was simply too great to replicate. I vividly remember before going into the Madison Square Garden for the big game and reading a sign in front saying "Geo Mikan vs Knicks". Mikan wasn't just a basketball player, he was the NBA.

RoundMoundOfReb
06-02-2014, 11:47 PM
They always ask will there ever be another Michael Jordan? Another Babe Ruth? Wayne Gretzky? Muhammad Ali? Why do they never ask if there will ever be another George Mikan? Because they know there will never be another George Mikan. He was simply too great to replicate. I vividly remember before going into the Madison Square Garden for the big game and reading a sign in front saying "Geo Mikan vs Knicks". Mikan wasn't just a basketball player, he was the NBA.
:applause:

Deuce Bigalow
06-02-2014, 11:51 PM
"George Mikan truly revolutionized the game and was the NBA’s first true superstar," Commissioner David Stern said. "He had the ability to be a fierce competitor on the court and a gentle giant off the court. We may never see one man impact the game of basketball as he did, and represent it with such warmth and grace."

"He was a great man; we had many, many conversations and he was always nice to me," O'Neal said. "I know who he was and what he did. Without George Mikan, there'd be no me."

"He showed us how to do it," said the NBA's all-time leading scorer. "I certainly would not have the hook shot that went in if it wasn’t for the fundamentals I learned from George Mikan’s game."

"George Mikan was the bedrock of the game we have today, not only as a player, but as a human being," Hall of Famer Bill Walton said. "His tireless work, on and off the court, changed all of our lives.

"When I first joined the NBA 30 years ago, I went to see George Mikan, desperately seeking advice. While he was instrumental in his words of wisdom, guidance and direction -- what really stuck with me was his parting words when he said, 'Bill, I learned a great lesson early on in life. The harder I worked, the luckier I got.'”

As Timberwolves star Kevin Garnett told the Minneapolis StarTribune, "Anybody who doesn't know who George Mikan is, is not a basketball fan."

http://www.nba.com/history/mikan_050602.html

RoundMoundOfReb
06-03-2014, 12:07 AM
http://s29.postimg.org/xc39n98tj/mikan_basher.jpg

Kids these days :facepalm:

Deuce Bigalow
09-02-2014, 04:34 PM
Mikan = GOAT
7/7 in the Finals > 6/6

Wilt 2/6 :oldlol:

riseagainst
09-02-2014, 04:44 PM
most dominant center of the pre-historic basketball era.

Deuce Bigalow
02-05-2015, 03:11 PM
ISH needs to appreciate this man more.

ArbitraryWater
02-05-2015, 03:14 PM
http://s29.postimg.org/xc39n98tj/mikan_basher.jpg

Kids these days :facepalm:

:roll:

"mikan_basher.jpg" lmaooo

Put that shit in the dumb or cringy thread.. and get back on your Mikan shtick

AirFederer
02-05-2015, 03:28 PM
I want Laz' and other Wilt stans honest opinions on Mikan and his quite extraordinary exploits.

He has a very good case for GOAT center :bowdown:

Dat impact :bowdown:

Deuce Bigalow
03-11-2015, 06:52 PM
Consider what he did in his peak on the biggest stage.

32.2 ppg of his team's 84.5 ppg in the '50 Finals against HOFer Shayches. That's 38.1% of the team's points! http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322240

Of course Mikan won the championship, after all he was perfect in the Finals with no blemishes on his record.

navy
03-11-2015, 07:01 PM
Consider what he did in his peak on the biggest stage.

32.2 ppg of his team's 84.5 ppg in the '50 Finals against HOFer Shayches. That's 38.1% of the team's points! http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322240

Of course Mikan won the championship, after all he was perfect in the Finals with no blemishes on his record.
Why is he not in people's top 5 list. :biggums:

Deuce Bigalow
03-11-2015, 07:54 PM
Why is he not in people's top 5 list. :biggums:
Ignorance

dubeta
03-11-2015, 07:58 PM
Why is he not in people's top 5 list. :biggums:

I already have Mikan ahead of Kobe on my All-Time List :applause:

People need to respect those that pioneered the game

ISHGoat
03-11-2015, 07:59 PM
I already have Mikan ahead of Kobe on my All-Time List :applause:

People need to respect those that pioneered the game

same. Mikan >>>>>>>>> rapebe

dubeta
03-11-2015, 08:01 PM
same. Mikan >>>>>>>>> rapebe

Good post, you're coming along as a respectable new poster

Future repped.

warriorfan
03-11-2015, 08:05 PM
Mikan GOAT

Asukal
03-11-2015, 08:33 PM
same. Mikan >>>>>>>>> rapebe

Mikan >>>>> 2/5 as well. :bowdown:

warriorfan
03-11-2015, 08:50 PM
DIRK 1/2

LeBad 2/5


DIRK > LeBad

deja vu
03-11-2015, 10:43 PM
Troll thread. OP knows that 50s and 60s eras were weak.