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Rocketswin2013
05-30-2014, 01:19 PM
PF/C and judging by assist rate.


http://i58.tinypic.com/24dosi8.jpg

:lebronamazed:

Still not better than Dwight though, tbh.................

KendrickPerkins
05-30-2014, 01:21 PM
Best Center in the league.

Kiddlovesnets
05-30-2014, 01:24 PM
Well he was abused by Gortat in playoffs, when it actually matters.

9512
05-30-2014, 01:25 PM
I could totally see the french celebrating this stat line like they won the world kkkup s0kkker in 1998.

Rocketswin2013
05-30-2014, 01:27 PM
Well he was abused by Gortat in playoffs, when it actually matters.
:applause: he's #3 behind Dwight and then Drummond IMO.

Im Still Ballin
05-30-2014, 01:27 PM
Webber and Divac are better passers, an it ain't even close.

fpliii
05-30-2014, 01:30 PM
B-R doesn't list AST% before 64-65 for the regular season, though looking over my files no bigs are ahead of him in the shot clock era (don't have calculations pre-54-55):


1955:

McGuire(NYK) 39.95
Davies(ROC) 36.73
Cousy(BOS) 36.20
Phillip(FTW) 35.90
Seymour(SYR) 29.57
King(SYR) 28.93
Martin(MNL) 25.86
George(PHW) 25.54
McMahon(ROC) 24.65
Harrison(MLH) 21.95

1956:

Cousy(BOS) 36.72
McGuire(NYK) 34.60
Phillip(FTW) 32.02
King(SYR) 20.09
Gola(PHW) 26.22
Seymour(SYR) 26.13
Noble(FTW) 25.32
Stokes(ROC) 25.28
George(PHW) 25.26
Martin(MNL) 25.16

1957:

Cousy(BOS) 33.39
McMahon(STL) 24.92
George(PHW) 21.89
Stokes(ROC) 21.14
Braun(NYK) 19.00
Martin(STL) 18.68
Mencel(MNL) 17.70
Regan(ROC) 17.56
Beck(PHW) 17.28
Costello(PHW) 17.08

1958:

Cousy(BOS) 31.18
McGuire(DET) 27.98
Stokes(CIN) 25.42
Braun(NYK) 24.15
Gola(PHW) 23.34
Devlin(MNL) 21.27
McMahon(STL) 21.09
King(CIN) 20.91
Guerin(NYK) 19.56
Wilfong(STL) 18.22

1959:

Cousy(BOS) 32.38
McGuire(DET) 31.03
Braun(NYK) 26.34
Rodgers(PHW) 24.38
Guerin(NYK) 21.90
Hundley(MNL) 19.22
Costello(PHW) 19.08
McMahon(STL) 18.59
Martin(STL) 18.37
McCarthy(CIN) 18.24

1960:

Cousy(BOS) 33.63
McGuire(DET) 32.77
Guerin(NYK) 29.96
Martin(STL) 25.51
Noble(DET) 23.46
Braun(NYK) 23.32
Rodgers(PHW) 23.09
Costello(SYR) 23.02
Hundley(MNL) 21.90
McCarthy(STL) 19.20

1961:

Robertson(CIN) 32.37
Cousy(BOS) 31.19
Rodgers(PHW) 27.36
Costello(SYR) 24.73
Guerin(NYK) 23.97
Shue(DET) 21.87
Noble(DET) 21.79
Hundley(LAL) 21.56
McCarthy(STL) 20.24
Hagan(STL) 20.03

1962:

Cousy(BOS) 35.36
Robertson(CIN) 34.62
Rodgers(PHW) 26.78
Costello(SYR) 24.38
Hundley(LAL) 24.35
Leonard(CHP) 21.13
Shue(DET) 20.63
West(LAL) 19.87
Jones,K(BOS) 19.49
Hagan(STL) 19.15

1963:

Cousy(BOS) 33.72
Rodgers(SFW) 30.14
Robertson(CIN) 30.06
West(LAL) 21.92
Green(CHZ) 21.21
Wilkens(STL) 19.93
Costello(SYR) 19.75
Guerin(NYK) 19.16
Hagan(STL) 19.14
Vaughn(STL) 19.13

1964:

Robertson(CIN) 35.95
Rodgers(SFW) 26.28
West(LAL) 23.34
Guerin(TOT) 22.15
Neumann(SYR) 20.53
Egan(TOT) 20.46
Jones,K(BOS) 20.43
Wilkens(STL) 19.41
Chamberlain(SFW) 18.72
Greer(PHI) 17.98

:applause: Noah

Artillery
05-30-2014, 01:30 PM
Well he was abused by Gortat in playoffs, when it actually matters.

Because his defense is overrated. Most will agree that his DPOY was not deserved. According to the impacts statistics, Noah wasn't even the best defensive player on his own team.

Solefade
05-30-2014, 01:35 PM
Webber and Divac are better passers, an it ain't even close.


even boris diaw is better tbh

Sarcastic
05-30-2014, 01:44 PM
Assist percentage? That's like saying the player with highest field goal percentage is the best scorer.

Pointguard
05-30-2014, 01:44 PM
PF/C and judging by assist rate.


http://i58.tinypic.com/24dosi8.jpg

:lebronamazed:

Still not better than Dwight though, tbh.................
How did you manage to keep KG out of that list. KG definitely averaged more while leading the league in rebounds, WS%, PER while averaging 22ppg. KG was at 27.1 asst%.

Rocketswin2013
05-30-2014, 01:47 PM
How did you manage to keep KG out of that list. KG definitely averaged more while leading the league in rebounds, WS%, PER while averaging 22ppg. KG was at 27.1 asst%.
Very good question. I'll check my filters. :biggums:

chairman
05-30-2014, 01:48 PM
Because his defense is overrated. Most will agree that his DPOY was not deserved. According to the impacts statistics, Noah wasn't even the best defensive player on his own team.
except for the fact he was playing on an injury.:rolleyes:

stalkerforlife
05-30-2014, 01:48 PM
Another Gator great tearing up the NBA.

Billy D = legend.

Rocketswin2013
05-30-2014, 01:52 PM
It's because I set my filter as C, F-C, C-F and KG is locked in as a F only for some reason. Almost as if he's a SF. If I open up the filter to the F's it'll have Tmac, Hill and Bird bombarding it.......
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=g&c1comp=gt&c1val=41&c2stat=mp_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=15&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ast_pct

But KG is third all-time in front of Noah with 27.1. Noah is #4. All great passers. :applause:

Johnny Jones
05-30-2014, 02:12 PM
except for the fact he was playing on an injury.:rolleyes:
Seems like Joakim is alwys injured in the playoffs. He plays too hard in the regular season IMO.

Artillery
05-30-2014, 02:14 PM
except for the fact he was playing on an injury.:rolleyes:

His DRAPM wasn't too impressive in the regular season either.

Clyde
05-30-2014, 02:18 PM
Gator Nation

Pointguard
05-30-2014, 02:54 PM
It's because I set my filter as C, F-C, C-F and KG is locked in as a F only for some reason. Almost as if he's a SF. If I open up the filter to the F's it'll have Tmac, Hill and Bird bombarding it.......
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=g&c1comp=gt&c1val=41&c2stat=mp_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=15&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ast_pct

But KG is third all-time in front of Noah with 27.1. Noah is #4. All great passers. :applause:
You did it right. Its definitely not on you. Good topic!
:cheers:

GimmeThat
05-30-2014, 02:54 PM
Gator Nation

Exactly.

It shows why that squad was so talented and won the National Championship
Because of Noah's ability to strive well under a systematic Center Role

He's probably one of the few locker room guys who is actually skill full enough to play well on the court.

J Shuttlesworth
05-30-2014, 02:56 PM
Boris Diaw :eek:

NumberSix
05-30-2014, 03:06 PM
The problem with Noah is that he's an overly emotional person.

imdaman99
05-30-2014, 03:11 PM
Holy shit Wilt shot 38% from the line :biggums:

bigkingsfan
05-30-2014, 03:15 PM
He did play without a true PG.

Marchesk
05-30-2014, 03:29 PM
So, 5.4 > 8.6?

Pointguard
05-30-2014, 03:46 PM
Boris Diaw :eek:
Diaw was playing every position that year, even some not invented yet. He was playing the point and center in the same game at times.

Young X
05-30-2014, 03:53 PM
KG in '03: 6.0 dimes/2.8 TO's - 25.8 AST%

KG in '05: 5.7 dimes/2.7 TO's - 27.1 AST%

>>>

wally_world
05-30-2014, 04:09 PM
Would be interesting to see how many % of the Kings buckets were made/assisted by CWebb.

oarabbus
05-30-2014, 05:00 PM
Boris Diaw :applause:

D-FENS
05-30-2014, 06:40 PM
It's because I set my filter as C, F-C, C-F and KG is locked in as a F only for some reason. Almost as if he's a SF. If I open up the filter to the F's it'll have Tmac, Hill and Bird bombarding it.......
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=g&c1comp=gt&c1val=41&c2stat=mp_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=15&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ast_pct

But KG is third all-time in front of Noah with 27.1. Noah is #4. All great passers. :applause:

You should only have centers in the filter. No forwards, or f-c

Denitron
05-30-2014, 06:41 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: