Better future: Washington or Toronto ?

[Legends66NBA7]

Both have young talent

Washington

Beal
Wall

Toronto

Valanciunas
Ross
DeRozan


Both have some free agents and restricted free agents that they need to sign to keep hold of their current core

Washington

Gortat
Booker
Harrington
Ariza

Also, do they re-sign Gooden ?

Toronto

Lowry
Patterson
Vasquez


I felt both teams were underrated all year long and could be very potent in the future. Which team could eventually come out with the brighter future in say, about 3-5 years time ?


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[KendrickPerkins]

I say Toronto.

Still not sure of Gortats future with the team. IMO, he and Nene were the anchors of this team. If they don't retain Gortat, I don't think they'll be as good as they were this year. Guy should be their number one priority to sign this summer. And plus, Nene's getting old.

BUT, Otto Porter could be something for dem in a few years. I like him. He cute.

[kaiteng]

Wiz have to keep Gortat.

Raps should keep Lowry, unless his price getting too high.

If all of them returns, Raptors should still have a better team.

[Clyde]

Washington, Wall and Beal could be the best back court in the NBA sooner than later.

I believe Toronto overachieved due to Lowry being in a contract year.

Either way both teams are looking good,.

[Legends66NBA7]

Forgot to add Porter, but I think he's a bust. Could be wrong, though, he probably just needs more minutes.

[Jameerthefear]

Toronto no doubt. I think Wall is a bit overrated. His playoffs left a lot to be desired. It really depends on how much either team wants to spend on free agency this year.

[kaiteng]

Toronto no doubt. I think Wall is a bit overrated. His playoffs left a lot to be desired. It really depends on how much either team wants to spend on free agency this year.
If Raptors resign Lowry, they will not have any.

[el gringos]

The only reason it's even close is how good toronto's gm is. Current rosters and payroll (assuming Lowry either walks or gets way overpaid to stay)? Washington and not real close

[Legends66NBA7]

Toronto no doubt. I think Wall is a bit overrated. His playoffs left a lot to be desired. It really depends on how much either team wants to spend on free agency this year.

I think Wall has the highest potential out of either player on each team, unless Valanciunas and DeRozan show otherwise. I think Ross and Beal are nice players, but don't think their ceilings are that high.


not real close

Save that for another thread.

This certainly is close and I would figure after an entire season's worth of information would suggest that to be very close.

All teams that qualified for the East (outside of Miami and Indiana) are going to be in a dog fight to secure all their talent, while trying to compete to be that next good team in the East and possibly over throw at least Indiana. Washington and Toronto will certainly be in that discussion. Even Miami and Indiana have tough decisions to make this off season, but I'm pretty sure they will be able to retain key players due to their playoff success.

[NLZ]

Toronto Durantulas have a brighter future, IMO.

[GimmeThat]

At some point both teams have to make that next step

whether you sign a marquee free agent with most of your cap space
or sign multiple talented role players and most likely make a coaching change

depends on which GM is better at a re-draft

you'd be surprised how many GM still f*ck it up after watching players actually playing in the NBA.

[Jameerthefear]

I think Wall has the highest potential out of either player on each team, unless Valanciunas and DeRozan show otherwise. I think Ross and Beal are nice players, but don't think their ceilings are that high.



Save that for another thread.

This certainly is close and I would figure after an entire season's worth of information would suggest that to be very close.

All teams that qualified for the East (outside of Miami and Indiana) are going to be in a dog fight to secure all their talent, while trying to compete to be that next good team in the East and possibly over throw at least Indiana. Washington and Toronto will certainly be in that discussion. Even Miami and Indiana have tough decisions to make this off season, but I'm pretty sure they will be able to retain key players due to their playoff success.
I actually think Beal will be better than Wall. Just how I personally feel though. Valuciunas too maybe. Where do you see Demar's peak?

[Legends66NBA7]

At some point both teams have to make that next step

whether you sign a marquee free agent with most of your cap space
or sign multiple talented role players and most likely make a coaching change

depends on which GM is better at a re-draft

you'd be surprised how many GM still f*ck it up after watching players actually playing in the NBA.

Watching the Grunwall and Colangelo eras, I actually know it all to well. Hoping Masai know what he's doing come this draft.


I actually think Beal will be better than Wall. Just how I personally feel though. Valuciunas too maybe. Where do you see Demar's peak?

DeMar's peak will probably be in his late 20's and I personally hope he can reach that 25/5/5 on good efficiency, playing solid defense, getting to the free throw line a lot. I think he can reach that elite SG status, even in the current system he's in because of how he improves year in and year out. My guess, is that he will try to get stronger and post up more next season.

Some say he might not be any better than Jerry Stackhouse or Richard Hamilton during their peak, but I think both those guys were selfish and put their personal individual goals over the team's goals. I don't think DeMar's a selfish player (I think some paint him out to be that way) and wants to continue to work hard and bring success to the Raptors. Compared to Vince Carter and Chris Bosh, DeMar is much ahead IMO in terms of character and internal leadership to his teammates and coaching staff. He's just got to show he can play at a high level consistently now.

[Young X]

Raps because they'll have KD :confusedshrug:

[The_Night_Elf]

It would be nice if the Basketball gods would let these two teams grow and become threats year in and year out. I think the fans have suffered enough.

If everyone comes back I honestly can't pick one over the other. If Gortat and Nene are healthy the Wiz will probably better. John Wall had a bad playoffs but I think he got a lot better this year.

[AnaheimLakers24]

none. any allstar they develope will leave. shit franchise stay shit

[Soundwave]

none. any allstar they develope will leave. shit franchise stay shit

I think the NBA has changed now that players recognize that if you're in a good situation you want to stay.

Like if the Raptors had Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady as young 'uns today, I think T-Mac would stay (he's even admitted now that he made a mistake).

Back then the trend was to go to your own team to "be the man", but I think the appeal of that idea has gone out the window ... no one wants to be LeBron is Cleveland anymore, they want to be LeBron in Miami who is surrounded by other stars.

The salary cap also creates a strong incentive these days to stay as you get paid more that way.

So I mean I don't know if Washington or Toronto would find themselves in that situation again but who knows.

[Legends66NBA7]

I think the NBA has changed now that players recognize that if you're in a good situation you want to stay.

Like if the Raptors had Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady as young 'uns today, I think T-Mac would stay (he's even admitted now that he made a mistake).

Back then the trend was to go to your own team to "be the man", but I think the appeal of that idea has gone out the window ... no one wants to be LeBron is Cleveland anymore, they want to be LeBron in Miami who is surrounded by other stars.

The salary cap also creates a strong incentive these days to stay as you get paid more that way.

So I mean I don't know if Washington or Toronto would find themselves in that situation again but who knows.

I don't see any of the young talent being as potent as Carter or McGrady were, at least not yet.

I'm sure they have room to grow. The Raptors and Wizards could definitely sign a big name or 2 if they have the cap space. Both can do so in the next 2 seasons, so it's possible.

[Rameek]

I think Washington would have a easier time keeping and adding players.

[eliteballer]

Washington unless Valuncianas turns into Prime Sabonis one day.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

I'm going to assume Gortat re-signs but Lowry doesn't.

Regardless, Washington has a brighter future b/c it'll attract decent FA's due to having Wall and the biggest escort business in the US. What does Toronto have to offer besides free healthcare and Drake?

...though I don't doubt Ujiri could pull off some great trades.