Carmelo Has Been A More Productive Player Than Lebron In The Last 2 Seasons

[aboss4real24]

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Melo Has Avgd More Points,Rebs, better 3Point %,Better FT%

Less T.Os,Avgd Jus as many Stls N Blks

Men Lie women Lie Numbers Dont http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7569/kobelol.png

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wow, that's impressive. How far did he get in the playoffs these last two years?

[NustABut]

this is too easy

rings?

[russwest0]

Wow, that's impressive. How far did he get in the playoffs these last two years?

you serious?

put him with wade, bosh, allen, chalmers, cole, miller, battier, and he wins the last 3 championships

[r15mohd]

you serious?

put him with wade, bosh, allen, chalmers, cole, miller, battier, and he wins the last 3 championships


:biggums:


and who makes up for Lebron's defense...Melo CANNOT fill this role

[AnaheimLakers24]

ringless loser

[J Shuttlesworth]

you serious?

put him with wade, bosh, allen, chalmers, cole, miller, battier, and he wins the last 3 championships
:lol If you believe this, you are retarded. They wouldn't get past the D-Rose bulls, or even the ECF the last couple years. Melo isn't capable of taking over a game on both ends of the floor, much like Durant

[aboss4real24]

:biggums:


and who makes up for Lebron's defense...Melo CANNOT fill this role

lebron plays d#? where have been the last 2 years?

this isnt 2008

LB D# Isnt that gud nemore

[Marchesk]

Clear MVP.

Melo is #5 all-time. Soon to pass Russell.

Melo > Lebron > Kobe > Durant

[aboss4real24]

:lol If you believe this, you are retarded. They wouldn't get past the D-Rose bulls, or even the ECF the last couple years. Melo isn't capable of taking over a game on both ends of the floor, much like Durant


Lebron is capable of takn over a game tho right? thats y he passes it to chris bosh wen the game is on the line http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2741/yaocmonson.png

[sd3035]

KD > Melo > Bran

[Dresta]

you serious?

put him with wade, bosh, allen, chalmers, cole, miller, battier, and he wins the last 3 championships
Perhaps if he could play defense like Bron, otherwise no chance. Miami's hounding perimeter defense would fall to pieces with Melo slotted into Bron's place, just as it would if you slotted Harden in Wade's place (though Melo is a better defender than Harden to be fair). It's this more anything else (along with having two elite ball-handlers/passers on the perimeter, and thus the efficient offense) that makes up for Miami's lack of size.

[Im so nba'd out]

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[aboss4real24]

Perhaps if he could play defense like Bron, otherwise no chance. Miami's hounding perimeter defense would fall to pieces with Melo slotted into Bron's place, just as it would if you slotted Harden in Wade's place (though Melo is a better defender than Harden to be fair). It's this more anything else (along with having two elite ball-handlers/passers on the perimeter, and thus the efficient offense) that makes up for Miami's lack of size.

This isnt 2008 or 2010


LBs d# is irrelevant

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

LeBron last two seasons = 1 NBA championship; 2 ECF appearances; 1 MVP; already considered top 10 GOAT.

Carmelo last two seasons = found out his wife tastes like Honey Nut Cheerios.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Lebron is capable of takn over a game tho right? thats y he passes it to chris bosh wen the game is on the line http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2741/yaocmonson.png
When was the last time Melo scored over 40 pts in the playoffs?

[J Shuttlesworth]

i'll give you this though, OP.

I think Melo on the Heat would go farther than Durant on the Heat.. not even trolling

[GimmeThat]

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[NumberSix]

How many rings did he produce?

[Just2McFly]

Melo is not on lebron's level but the rosters he had to carry were just beyond shitty, i can't believe he was a rigged series away from the ECF's in 2013

[fpliii]

Jesus Christ, why is Melo so overrated on this board. This is obviously a parody thread, but people compare him to top-tier superstars here. :facepalm

From watching him regularly, just not the impression that one gets. SMH

[J Shuttlesworth]

Jesus Christ, why is Melo so overrated on this board. This is obviously a parody thread, but people compare him to top-tier superstars here. :facepalm

From watching him regularly, just not the impression that one gets. SMH
Did you mean to say "overrated"?

[fpliii]

Did you mean to say "overrated"?
Typo, you caught me before the edit lol.

[The_Night_Elf]

I think Melo would trade the last 2 yrs of his career for the last 2 yrs of LeBron's...

[Rubio2Gasol]

Carmelo is actually underrated around here, put him in the right setting, and he'll compete. He does the most important thing in the game better than anyone in the league, he just needs a team behind him.

Chicago incoming....

[SOD 21]

The OP would make a sensational general manager of an NBA team with his keen assessment of talent and understanding that Carmelo Anthony is greater, easily, than LeBron James.

It is an honor to share this Internet message board with you.

[aboss4real24]

The OP would make a sensational general manager of an NBA team with his keen assessment of talent and understanding that Carmelo Anthony is greater, easily, than LeBron James.

It is an honor to share this Internet message board with you.


never sed he was greater then LB

Jus sed hes more productive

[imdaman99]

I'm not a big Melo guy but his #2 here in NY has been JR Smith. Let that sink in.

[russwest0]

:biggums:


and who makes up for Lebron's defense...Melo CANNOT fill this role

Melo has played no worse of defense than LeBron these past 2 years.

And I guarantee you vs say, the Spurs and Mavericks, Miami's whole offense would open up because Melo wouldn't refuse to take wide open jumpers.

Can you imagine Wade slashing with Melo on the wing? :eek: :eek: :eek:

[SOD 21]

never sed he was greater then LB

Jus sed hes more productive

How is Carmelo Anthony more productive when it takes him four more field-goal attempts to score an equal number of points compared to LeBron James?

Also, how is Carmelo more productive when he shoots 11% worse from the field this season?

And while I will agree that LeBron James has fallen back defensively over the last year, at least he has the ability to play at an elite level when he wants to, which is more than I can say for Carmelo.

[russwest0]

Shit, Melo probably doesn't brick TWO wide open game tying 3s either. Ray Allen doesn't even have to hit a 3 to tie it, the actual star would close the game out.

Then again, Melo probably doesn't play like shit and turn the ball over down the key stretches of the 4th forcing them into that situation.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Melo has played no worse of defense than LeBron these past 2 years.

And I guarantee you vs say, the Spurs and Mavericks, Miami's whole offense would open up because Melo wouldn't refuse to take wide open jumpers.

Can you imagine Wade slashing with Melo on the wing? :eek: :eek: :eek:
I know you're trolling/naturally stupid, but Melo isn't close to the defender LeBron is. Bron obviously coasted defensively this season, but you see his D in the playoffs and it's much better than Melo's. I don't consider Melo a bad defender either. He's better than Durant at D for sure. Melo can't shut down D-Rose, Paul George, or Tony Parker, which have all been necessary to compete in the last 3 playoffs. Melo is good at covering his position, but he can't cover fast PG's like LeBron can.

If Melo was on the Heat, they'd have to build completely differently. Wade/Melo's games don't blend since Melo is so selfish. You also wouldn't have someone to drive in the paint to draw double teams and create some open jump shots on the wing. It's just a completely different team. Melo wouldn't fit in well to the Heat at all.

[atljonesbro]

Shit, Melo probably doesn't brick TWO wide open game tying 3s either. Ray Allen doesn't even have to hit a 3 to tie it, the actual star would close the game out.

Then again, Melo probably doesn't play like shit and turn the ball over down the key stretches of the 4th forcing them into that situation.
Doubtful. Melo's "clutch gene" is a myth nowadays. I remember NBA TV had a montage of all of his missed game winners/tying shots over the past few years. I think he was 1-18

[riseagainst]

if melo was on the Heat in place of Lebron, the Heat would easily win the chip undefeated in the playoffs.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Russwest doesn't even realize that LeBron made one of those two 3's he's talking about :lol

[aboss4real24]

How is Carmelo Anthony more productive when it takes him four more field-goal attempts to score an equal number of points compared to LeBron James?

Also, how is Carmelo more productive when he shoots 11% worse from the field this season?

And while I will agree that LeBron James has fallen back defensively over the last year, at least he has the ability to play at an elite level when he wants to, which is more than I can say for Carmelo.

melo won a scoring title, He Led the NBA In Rebs 4 a SF ,
Shot 41% frum 3 , shot 84 % frum FT

Avgd less only 2.6 T.Os


all feats lebron hasnt conquered

[AnaheimLakers24]

melo kobe rose kd would all be trying to 4peat right now with this stcked squad

[SOD 21]

So just to be clear

[aboss4real24]

Doubtful. Melo's "clutch gene" is a myth nowadays. I remember NBA TV had a montage of all of his missed game winners/tying shots over the past few years. I think he was 1-18


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[aj1987]

Melo has played no worse of defense than LeBron these past 2 years.

And I guarantee you vs say, the Spurs and Mavericks, Miami's whole offense would open up because Melo wouldn't refuse to take wide open jumpers.

Can you imagine Wade slashing with Melo on the wing? :eek: :eek: :eek:

LeBron was 2nd in DPOY voting and made the All-D 1st team last season.

[atljonesbro]

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This is false or accounts his 1-17 stretch.

[russwest0]

Tell me again how LeBron didn't choke away game 6 only to get saved by Allen.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400467338&period=4

start from 4:01, Heat had a 3pt lead.

4:01 84-87 LeBron James misses 17-foot jumper
3:17 84-87 LeBron James turnover
0:39 91-89 LeBron James lost ball turnover (Kawhi Leonard steals)
0:28 93-89 LeBron James bad pass (Manu Ginobili steals)
0:23 94-89 LeBron James misses 26-foot three point jumper
0:07 95-92 LeBron James misses 26-foot three point jumper

... and then Ray saved his ass.

[riseagainst]

LeBron was 2nd in DPOY voting and made the All-D 1st team last season.

all ESPN and media bs to push their golden boy to make money. Legitimately speaking he was at the very best all defense 3rd team and should not even be considered a top 10 candidate for DPOY.

[SOD 21]

If the OP in this thread truly believes that Carmelo Anthony is more productive than LeBron James, then he must believe that if each of them had an equal supporting cast that Carmelo Anthony would win over LeBron James more times than not, right?

[aboss4real24]

[QUOTE=SOD 21]So just to be clear

[fpliii]

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That graphic is from 2012 bro. In the last two seasons, he's gone 1-7 and 1-11 respectively in the same situations:

http://bkref.com/tiny/EsGqk

[russwest0]

If the OP in this thread truly believes that Carmelo Anthony is more productive than LeBron James, then he must believe that if each of them had an equal supporting cast that Carmelo Anthony would win over LeBron James more times than not, right?

Doesn't Melo have a winning record vs Lebron?

[russwest0]

all ESPN and media bs to push their golden boy to make money. Legitimately speaking he was at the very best all defense 3rd team and should not even be considered a top 10 candidate for DPOY.

lmao, reminds me of me posting EVERY ADVANCED DEFENSIVE METRIC showing that even "skinny KD" played better defense than LeBron these past 2 seasons, only to get refuted with

"2nd in media DPOY voting" :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Nothing screams "I'm a dipshit casual fan" more than referencing some shit like that in the attempt to refute a claim about overrated defense.

[aboss4real24]

Lebron Has Not been A Elite D# Player these last 2 seasons,

He was elite frum 07-11

But he fell off 4 wateva reason

Dont get me wrong he's still very versatile can guard 1-4

but Melo can guard 2-4 himself

[J Shuttlesworth]

lmao, reminds me of me posting EVERY ADVANCED DEFENSIVE METRIC showing that even "skinny KD" played better defense than LeBron these past 2 seasons, only to get refuted with

"2nd in media DPOY voting" :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Nothing screams "I'm a dipshit casual fan" more than referencing some shit like that in the attempt to refute a claim about overrated defense.
lol @ bringing up advanced metrics when trying to argue Melo over LeBron :lol That will never work out in Melo's favor

And lol @ using metrics for defense. Anyone watching the playoffs can see that Durant is the worst defender in the starting 5 on the thunder. Ibaka, Perkins, Westbrook, and Sefolosha are all better on D than Durant. That's the only thing missing from Durant's game besides a post game. This series, we've seen LeBron cover George, Stephenson, Hill, and West successfully, and even get a few strips off Hibbert w/ the help defense. You can't say the same about Durant. When LeBron got in foul trouble, George suddenly scored 20 4th quarter points since LeBron couldn't risk getting his 6th foul

[J Shuttlesworth]

Lebron Has Not been A Elite D# Player these last 2 seasons,

He was elite frum 07-11

But he fell off 4 wateva reason

Dont get me wrong he's still very versatile can guard 1-4

but Melo can guard 2-4 himself
Bran isn't defending so well in the season, but he's been great in the playoffs these last two years

OP, how do you think Melo would do on the THunder in place of KD?

[russwest0]

lol @ bringing up advanced metrics when trying to argue Melo over LeBron :lol That will never work out in Melo's favor

And lol @ using metrics for defense.

Ah, here we go with the double standard.

"Advanced metrics are great when they work in LeBrons favor!"

"Whats that, advanced metrics show that LeBron is a below average AT BEST defender? Lol advanced metrics are dumb for defense then!!!"

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

They only show how many points per possession a defender allows in a VARIETY of situations. Yup, totally see no use for those whatsoever.

[aboss4real24]

Bran isn't defending so well in the season, but he's been great in the playoffs these last two years

OP, how do you think Melo would do on the THunder in place of KD?

They would b at the same spot there in now

[J Shuttlesworth]

Ah, here we go with the double standard.

"Advanced metrics are great when they work in LeBrons favor!"

"Whats that, advanced metrics show that LeBron is a below average AT BEST defender? Lol advanced metrics are dumb for defense then!!!"

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

They only show how many points per possession a defender allows in a VARIETY of situations. Yup, totally see no use for those whatsoever.
Raw stats prove that Lebron is better than Melo. Don't need the advanced stats to prove that. Simply watching the playoffs you can see that Durant defensive impact is little, and Lebrons is bigger. Curious though... Post the defensive metrics from the playoffs this yeat

[aj1987]

all ESPN and media bs to push their golden boy to make money. Legitimately speaking he was at the very best all defense 3rd team and should not even be considered a top 10 candidate for DPOY.
There is no All-Defensive 3rd team, idiot. :facepalm

[aboss4real24]

melo is a better rebounder than lb ever was

[Duncan21formvp]

Clear MVP.

Melo is #5 all-time. Soon to pass Russell.

Melo > Lebron > Kobe > Durant
Melo never got the opportunity to play with someone who won a title as the man like Lebron did in Ben Wallace, Shaq, Wade.