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JohnMax
05-31-2014, 08:37 AM
Did Officials Help the Miami Heat in 2011? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9BSVWgqY2M)

AnaheimLakers24
05-31-2014, 08:38 AM
pinche joto

miles berg
05-31-2014, 08:49 AM
Believe it. He is t super human.

JohnFreeman
05-31-2014, 09:05 AM
There were rumours that he was told to throw it, but I think he just had a bad series.

yellowlebron
05-31-2014, 09:20 AM
I have a hard time believing Lebron coud play that bad.

The true reason Lebron played shit was he realised that because of the way the Mavericks were defensively geared towards shutting him down, even if the Heat won, Wade would get FMVP. Think about it, what's worse? Lebron "choking" in 2011 or Lebron being confirmed as a true "beta", running to DWade's team and playing Robin to his Batman. The "choking" narrative is much easier to unwrite than the beta narrative. All that's needed to overcome the choking narrative is win some rings and play clutch, which he is more than capable of doing. The beta narrative is harder to unwrite, cos there is no guarantee that Lebron would win another ring. Think about it, DWade 2 FMVPS vs Lebron's 0 heading into the 2012 season. If I were Lebron, I'd rather sabotage the Finals than become a true beta.

Here are some stats to feast on:
Game 1:
Wade: 22/10/6
Lebron: 24/9/5
Game 2:
Wade: 36/5/6
Lebron: 20/8/4
Game 3:
Wade: 29/11/3
Lebron: 17/3/9
Game 4:
Wade: 32/6/2
Lebron: 8/9/7
Game 5:
Wade: 23/2/8
Lebron: 17/10/10
Game 6:
Wade: 17/8/6
Lebron: 21/4/6

It's pretty clear Lebron decided in Game 4 that he was just going to quit. He knew after Game 2/3 that the FMVP would be DWade's if the Heat won. So he made sure they lost.

sd3035
05-31-2014, 09:43 AM
people just played defense on Lebron

3LiftHeatCurse
05-31-2014, 09:56 AM
Of course LeBron tanked.

I don't know why but I think :

- maybe Mafia got to him
- maybe he didn't want Wade to win FMVP
- maybe the NBA instructed him to lose because the world hated him at that time

#1SportsFan86
05-31-2014, 10:13 AM
Of course LeBron tanked.

I don't know why but I think :

- maybe Mafia got to him
- maybe he didn't want Wade to win FMVP
- maybe the NBA instructed him to lose because the world hated him at that time

- maybe Dallas was just the better TEAM
- maybe the Heat had no answer for Dirk
- maybe Lebron just choked
- maybe the NBA wanted the Mavs to win after they stole title from them in the 2006 NBA Finals.

Dragonyeuw
05-31-2014, 10:13 AM
There were rumours that he was told to throw it,

For what purpose?

JtotheIzzo
05-31-2014, 10:17 AM
maybe they just clogged the lane and forced him to take jumpers?

maybe they didn't have an answer for Dirk?

Warfan
05-31-2014, 10:21 AM
Nah, the Mavs just executed down the stretch while Miami didn't. Bron was passive (the pressure got to him) and the defense clogged the lane and tried to turn him into more of a passer. The Mavs were on fire too...

And why would he be ordered to take a dive? Some illuminati bullshit :roll:

JohnFreeman
05-31-2014, 10:26 AM
For what purpose?
I am not saying it's true, but apparently maybe some mob figures for betting reasons

plowking
05-31-2014, 10:34 AM
maybe they just clogged the lane and forced him to take jumpers?

maybe they didn't have an answer for Dirk?

Dirk actually played quite average that series, compared to the rest of his run.

Dwyane Wade was the best player on the court in that series.

3LiftHeatCurse
05-31-2014, 10:40 AM
Dirk actually played quite average that series, compared to the rest of his run.

Dwyane Wade was the best player on the court in that series.

Some of the games were officiated terribly too.

I believe in one of the games, the Mavericks didn't commit a single foul in the second half of the game. Through 3rd and 4th quarter, the Mavs weren't called for ONE foul. Not a single one.

creepingdeath
05-31-2014, 10:40 AM
Dirk actually played quite average that series, compared to the rest of his run.

Dwyane Wade was the best player on the court in that series.
http://i.minus.com/ibxi68DTL5LVO.gif

Hey Yo
05-31-2014, 10:43 AM
The true reason Lebron played shit was he realised that because of the way the Mavericks were defensively geared towards shutting him down, even if the Heat won, Wade would get FMVP. Think about it, what's worse? Lebron "choking" in 2011 or Lebron being confirmed as a true "beta", running to DWade's team and playing Robin to his Batman. The "choking" narrative is much easier to unwrite than the beta narrative. All that's needed to overcome the choking narrative is win some rings and play clutch, which he is more than capable of doing. The beta narrative is harder to unwrite, cos there is no guarantee that Lebron would win another ring. Think about it, DWade 2 FMVPS vs Lebron's 0 heading into the 2012 season. If I were Lebron, I'd rather sabotage the Finals than become a true beta.

Here are some stats to feast on:
Game 1:
Wade: 22/10/6
Lebron: 24/9/5
Game 2:
Wade: 36/5/6
Lebron: 20/8/4
Game 3:
Wade: 29/11/3
Lebron: 17/3/9
Game 4:
Wade: 32/6/2
Lebron: 8/9/7
Game 5:
Wade: 23/2/8
Lebron: 17/10/10
Game 6:
Wade: 17/8/6
Lebron: 21/4/6

It's pretty clear Lebron decided in Game 4 that he was just going to quit. He knew after Game 2/3 that the FMVP would be DWade's if the Heat won. So he made sure they lost.
You're somewhat on the right track, except Wade and Riley were in on it to.

Before the series started it was likely agreed (since James came to Wade's team) that Wade would try to get 1 more Finals MVP.

That can't happen if James continues the way he was throughout the playoffs.

James holds back, so Wade can shine brighter and hoping a team effort can do just enough to win the title.

It didn't workout that way. Wade realized that asking the best player in the World to hold back so he can his one last hurrah, was a dumb thing to do.

Before next season starts, Wade announces to media that it's LeBron's team now. Since that announcement, 2 titles and 4th straight Finals appearance.

It was Wade's selfishness that caused the Heat to lose in 2011.

305Baller
05-31-2014, 10:54 AM
LeBron too unselfish. Gave Dirk a ring.

tpols
05-31-2014, 10:56 AM
Nope.

LeFraud James
05-31-2014, 11:02 AM
The true reason Lebron played shit was he realised that because of the way the Mavericks were defensively geared towards shutting him down, even if the Heat won, Wade would get FMVP. Think about it, what's worse? Lebron "choking" in 2011 or Lebron being confirmed as a true "beta", running to DWade's team and playing Robin to his Batman. The "choking" narrative is much easier to unwrite than the beta narrative. All that's needed to overcome the choking narrative is win some rings and play clutch, which he is more than capable of doing. The beta narrative is harder to unwrite, cos there is no guarantee that Lebron would win another ring. Think about it, DWade 2 FMVPS vs Lebron's 0 heading into the 2012 season. If I were Lebron, I'd rather sabotage the Finals than become a true beta.

Here are some stats to feast on:
Game 1:
Wade: 22/10/6
Lebron: 24/9/5
Game 2:
Wade: 36/5/6
Lebron: 20/8/4
Game 3:
Wade: 29/11/3
Lebron: 17/3/9
Game 4:
Wade: 32/6/2
Lebron: 8/9/7
Game 5:
Wade: 23/2/8
Lebron: 17/10/10
Game 6:
Wade: 17/8/6
Lebron: 21/4/6

It's pretty clear Lebron decided in Game 4 that he was just going to quit. He knew after Game 2/3 that the FMVP would be DWade's if the Heat won. So he made sure they lost.

Damn :eek:

InfiniteBaskets
05-31-2014, 11:08 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibxi68DTL5LVO.gif

He's partially right. Dirk had some great games, and was the key player in the game 3 comeback. But in the close out game 6, Dirk actually shot like 1 for 9 or something in the first half yet Dallas was up around 10 at the time because of Dallas role players. JJ Barea's pick and roll was what turned the tide in Dallas' favor offensively mid-way through the series.

creepingdeath
05-31-2014, 11:39 AM
He's partially right. Dirk had some great games, and was the key player in the game 3 comeback. But in the close out game 6, Dirk actually shot like 1 for 9 or something in the first half yet Dallas was up around 10 at the time because of Dallas role players. JJ Barea's pick and roll was what turned the tide in Dallas' favor offensively mid-way through the series.
So Wade's game 6 heroics of 6-16 shooting and 5 turnovers were something to show for, right?

Cone
05-31-2014, 11:46 AM
- maybe Dallas was just the better TEAM
- maybe the Heat had no answer for Dirk
- maybe Lebron just choked
- maybe the NBA wanted the Mavs to win after they stole title from them in the 2006 NBA Finals.

this

Cone
05-31-2014, 11:46 AM
Of course LeBron tanked.

I don't know why but I think :

- maybe Mafia got to him
- maybe he didn't want Wade to win FMVP
- maybe the NBA instructed him to lose because the world hated him at that time

Maybe the heat got their asses handed to them. listen to your self, kid. "maybe the nba instructed him to lose"

lame ass heat bandwagons :roll:

3LiftHeatCurse
05-31-2014, 11:49 AM
Maybe the heat got their asses handed to them. listen to your self, kid. "maybe the nba instructed him to lose"

lame ass heat bandwagons :roll:

Calling me a bandwagon fan.... so sad on your part. I'm one of the realest Heat fans out there.

Marlo_Stanfield
05-31-2014, 11:55 AM
You're somewhat on the right track, except Wade and Riley were in on it to.

Before the series started it was likely agreed (since James came to Wade's team) that Wade would try to get 1 more Finals MVP.

That can't happen if James continues the way he was throughout the playoffs.

James holds back, so Wade can shine brighter and hoping a team effort can do just enough to win the title.

It didn't workout that way. Wade realized that asking the best player in the World to hold back so he can his one last hurrah, was a dumb thing to do.

Before next season starts, Wade announces to media that it's LeBron's team now. Since that announcement, 2 titles and 4th straight Finals appearance.

It was Wade's selfishness that caused the Heat to lose in 2011.
This
LeBron held back because he wanted to give Wade one last hurra.
he also realized how the mavs game planned into stopping him. so just took a tep back and let Wade be the man.
as we all know by know that wasnt enough.
Wade realized that too and told LeBron hell be the go-to guy from now on.
simple as that.
not saying the Heat would be a lock to win if LEBron would have been nr 1 option that series but it would have been closer and he wouldnt have had such terrible stats for sure

Bandito
05-31-2014, 11:57 AM
Calling me a bandwagon fan.... so sad on your part. I'm one of the ****** Heat fans out there.
Agreed

Frozen1
05-31-2014, 12:10 PM
This
LeBron held back because he wanted to give Wade one last hurra.
he also realized how the mavs game planned into stopping him. so just took a tep back and let Wade be the man.
as we all know by know that wasnt enough.
Wade realized that too and told LeBron hell be the go-to guy from now on.
simple as that.
not saying the Heat would be a lock to win if LEBron would have been nr 1 option that series but it would have been closer and he wouldnt have had such terrible stats for sure

Yeah, scoring 8 points was all part of the plan.

Magic 32
05-31-2014, 12:11 PM
You're somewhat on the right track, except Wade and Riley were in on it to.

Before the series started it was likely agreed (since James came to Wade's team) that Wade would try to get 1 more Finals MVP.

That can't happen if James continues the way he was throughout the playoffs.

James holds back, so Wade can shine brighter and hoping a team effort can do just enough to win the title.

It didn't workout that way. Wade realized that asking the best player in the World to hold back so he can his one last hurrah, was a dumb thing to do.

Before next season starts, Wade announces to media that it's LeBron's team now. Since that announcement, 2 titles and 4th straight Finals appearance.

It was Wade's selfishness that caused the Heat to lose in 2011.



This
LeBron held back because he wanted to give Wade one last hurra.
he also realized how the mavs game planned into stopping him. so just took a tep back and let Wade be the man.
as we all know by know that wasnt enough.
Wade realized that too and told LeBron hell be the go-to guy from now on.
simple as that.
not saying the Heat would be a lock to win if LEBron would have been nr 1 option that series but it would have been closer and he wouldnt have had such terrible stats for sure

http://s28.postimg.org/xa5g0drz1/jkhg.png

sportjames23
05-31-2014, 01:31 PM
Bran stans got an excuse for everything. :oldlol:

Dresta
05-31-2014, 01:37 PM
You're somewhat on the right track, except Wade and Riley were in on it to.

Before the series started it was likely agreed (since James came to Wade's team) that Wade would try to get 1 more Finals MVP.

That can't happen if James continues the way he was throughout the playoffs.

James holds back, so Wade can shine brighter and hoping a team effort can do just enough to win the title.

It didn't workout that way. Wade realized that asking the best player in the World to hold back so he can his one last hurrah, was a dumb thing to do.

Before next season starts, Wade announces to media that it's LeBron's team now. Since that announcement, 2 titles and 4th straight Finals appearance.

It was Wade's selfishness that caused the Heat to lose in 2011.
This
LeBron held back because he wanted to give Wade one last hurra.
he also realized how the mavs game planned into stopping him. so just took a tep back and let Wade be the man.
as we all know by know that wasnt enough.
Wade realized that too and told LeBron hell be the go-to guy from now on.
simple as that.
not saying the Heat would be a lock to win if LEBron would have been nr 1 option that series but it would have been closer and he wouldnt have had such terrible stats for sure


:kobe:

Bron stans man :roll: . Next level delusional.

Seriously, they live in a world where completely disappearing in the most important game of your NBA career thus far, is the equivalent to just 'holding back a bit' to get your teammate and buddy some props. They also like ignoring how Wade outplayed Bron in the Boston series that year as well, but it didn't trigger a magical Lebron James vanishing act that time, only in the finals.

kamil
05-31-2014, 01:49 PM
There were rumours that he was told to throw it, but I think he just had a bad series.


This
LeBron held back because he wanted to give Wade one last hurra.
he also realized how the mavs game planned into stopping him. so just took a tep back and let Wade be the man.
as we all know by know that wasnt enough.
Wade realized that too and told LeBron hell be the go-to guy from now on.
simple as that.
not saying the Heat would be a lock to win if LEBron would have been nr 1 option that series but it would have been closer and he wouldnt have had such terrible stats for sure

My god... does no one else see how incredibly retarded these guys are?

Whats with LeBron* fans and all their excuses?

chocolatethunder
05-31-2014, 02:38 PM
pinche joto
Eso.

Hey Yo
05-31-2014, 04:43 PM
:kobe:

Bron stans man :roll: . Next level delusional.

Seriously, they live in a world where completely disappearing in the most important game of your NBA career thus far, is the equivalent to just 'holding back a bit' to get your teammate and buddy some props. They also like ignoring how Wade outplayed Bron in the Boston series that year as well, but it didn't trigger a magical Lebron James vanishing act that time, only in the finals.
James avg. 28-8-3 on 47% shooting and Wade avg. 30-7-5 on 52% shooting. If you want to say Wade outplayed him ok, but what individual award is givin out by the NBA that recognizes the best player of the conference semi-finals?? All that's right, duh there isn't one.

GODbe
05-31-2014, 04:49 PM
The true reason Lebron played shit was he realised that because of the way the Mavericks were defensively geared towards shutting him down, even if the Heat won, Wade would get FMVP. Think about it, what's worse? Lebron "choking" in 2011 or Lebron being confirmed as a true "beta", running to DWade's team and playing Robin to his Batman. The "choking" narrative is much easier to unwrite than the beta narrative. All that's needed to overcome the choking narrative is win some rings and play clutch, which he is more than capable of doing. The beta narrative is harder to unwrite, cos there is no guarantee that Lebron would win another ring. Think about it, DWade 2 FMVPS vs Lebron's 0 heading into the 2012 season. If I were Lebron, I'd rather sabotage the Finals than become a true beta.

Here are some stats to feast on:
Game 1:
Wade: 22/10/6
Lebron: 24/9/5
Game 2:
Wade: 36/5/6
Lebron: 20/8/4
Game 3:
Wade: 29/11/3
Lebron: 17/3/9
Game 4:
Wade: 32/6/2
Lebron: 8/9/7
Game 5:
Wade: 23/2/8
Lebron: 17/10/10
Game 6:
Wade: 17/8/6
Lebron: 21/4/6

It's pretty clear Lebron decided in Game 4 that he was just going to quit. He knew after Game 2/3 that the FMVP would be DWade's if the Heat won. So he made sure they lost.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dresta
05-31-2014, 04:51 PM
James avg. 28-8-3 on 47% shooting and Wade avg. 30-7-5 on 52% shooting. If you want to say Wade outplayed him ok, but what individual award is givin out by the NBA that recognizes the best player of the conference semi-finals?? All that's right, duh there isn't one.
He did outplay him then :confusedshrug:.

And what does your second point have to do with anything? You blamed Lebron's poor performance on him taking a backseat to Wade, yet he took a backseat to Wade against the Celtics, and yet it didn't really seem to harm his production, or the Heat's ability to play elite basketball. Wade took less shots per game in that Mavs series than he did in the Boston one, yet Bron still managed to produce. Your argument makes no logical sense.

Marlo_Stanfield
05-31-2014, 05:01 PM
:kobe:

Bron stans man :roll: . Next level delusional.

Seriously, they live in a world where completely disappearing in the most important game of your NBA career thus far, is the equivalent to just 'holding back a bit' to get your teammate and buddy some props. They also like ignoring how Wade outplayed Bron in the Boston series that year as well, but it didn't trigger a magical Lebron James vanishing act that time, only in the finals.
Wade stans are the worst.
not even thankful that Bron carried Wade to two more rings than Wade would have ever won if Bron dint come to Miami.
than bash him whenever he has a bad game:biggums:

Hey Yo
05-31-2014, 05:05 PM
He did outplay him then :confusedshrug:.

And what does your second point have to do with anything? You blamed Lebron's poor performance on him taking a backseat to Wade, yet he took a backseat to Wade against the Celtics, and yet it didn't really seem to harm his production, or the Heat's ability to play elite basketball. Wade took less shots per game in that Mavs series than he did in the Boston one, yet Bron still managed to produce. Your argument makes no logical sense.
Since Wade shot a little better, avg. 2 more pts and a couple more assists means James took a backseat against Boston? Not at all. That's why I said there would be no reason for James to do so in ECSF because there's no award handed out recognizing the best player moving on to the ECF.

But in the Finals, that's different. Your averages are thrown out the window with a new slate. James taking a backseat to Wade was part of the plan to get Wade the Finals MVP and it backfired, that's all.

In the off-season, Wade came to his senses and realized he needs to be second fiddle and turned the team over to James.

buddha
05-31-2014, 05:11 PM
And why would he be ordered to take a dive? Some illuminati bullshit :roll:

yeah money is such bullshit, it's not like the Heat were the favorites to win, it's not like the league has rumors about being rigged with refs betting on games, it's not like there would have been alot of money to be made if the Mavs won.

such bullshit

honestly, it's a much more reasonable explanation for LerBran fans who think he can do no wrong, I personally think the beta just choked.