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LeBird
05-31-2014, 11:55 PM
These are the two premier players in the league by a distance. This year, for the first time in a long time someone other than Lebron won the MVP. People argued that it was a bit of Lebron fatigue that helped Durant win the MVP.

My question is: will people use this, another loss in the Conf. finals, against him in the MVP voting next year even if he has the same kind of season?

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NumberSix
06-01-2014, 02:46 AM
There won't be any LeBron voter fatigue, so they won't be desperately trying to convince themselves to give it to someone else.
Ancient Legend
06-01-2014, 02:48 AM
The voters will not be fooled again by someone who just scores and does little else, best record or not.
JohnFreeman
06-01-2014, 02:48 AM
Durant won't be in the MVP race next season
Im Still Ballin
06-01-2014, 02:51 AM
I have a feeling Durant might win it again purely because Lebron is coasting again...

Same thing will always happen in the Play offs though...

Lebron might only average 27/7/7 while KD averages 30/7/6 but we all know who the better player is.
nnn123
06-01-2014, 02:52 AM
If LeBron won an MVP the year after his legendary (and patented) 2011 chokejob...

Then yes, Durant can win MVP. He didn't play up to his standards, but wasn't nearly as bad
Ancient Legend
06-01-2014, 02:55 AM
I have a feeling Durant might win it again purely because Lebron is coasting again...

Same thing will always happen in the Play offs though...

Lebron might only average 27/7/7 while KD averages 30/7/6 but we all know who the better player is.

I don't think LeBron will coast and sit happily at 4 MVPs. Dude knows whats up and will try for his 5th next year.
Ancient Legend
06-01-2014, 02:56 AM
If LeBron won an MVP the year after his legendary (and patented) 2011 chokejob...

Then yes, Durant can win MVP. He didn't play up to his standards, but wasn't nearly as bad

But LeBron played great up to the Finals. KD had an underwhelming playoffs overall this year, despite the stats. Russ was OKC's driving force.
inclinerator
06-01-2014, 02:56 AM
lebron will win the mvp, he comes back stronger when he loses someting
NumberSix
06-01-2014, 03:02 AM
Don't forget. Miami is probably going to be doing some rebuilding next season.
SwishSquared
06-01-2014, 03:07 AM
If Miami reloads in regards to roleplayers, they could get back to having the #1 record league-wide. That's a good starting argument for an MVP case. The issue with the Wade maintenance program this year was that they were short another reliable wing (aka Mike Miller, thanks amnesty clause lol) to fill some of Wade's minutes. With the role players aging (Allen, Battier, Lewis, Haslem, etc.), their defense slipped imo due to lack of athleticism when Wade sat. I think they also finally get a quality starting center for next year (my guess is Gortat and they slide Bosh to PF- will play small ball in spurts during game).

If LBJ puts up his normal #s, shoots ~55/40/77, and MIA gets back to having a top defense, I can see him getting MVP next year, no problem. I know guys like Griffin and Davis will be knocking on the door, but LBJ is ticked off he didn't win. He'll be on a mission. Plus, if they 3peat this year, he'll have the lore of the 4peat narrative going for him, which may sway some voters for him.
KG215
06-01-2014, 03:11 AM
There won't be any LeBron voter fatigue, so they won't be desperately trying to convince themselves to give it to someone else.
Durant didn't win the MVP this year because of voter fatigue. He won it because he straight up deserved it.
LakersFan626
06-01-2014, 03:15 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Blake or CP3 win it next year... the new owner should give them A LOT of motivation as well as almost beating the Thunder, and Blake was third in the race this year.
NumberSix
06-01-2014, 03:19 AM
Durant didn't win the MVP this year because of voter fatigue. He won it because he straight up deserved it.
Meh. His stats looked pretty good as they did in the playoffs. When you actually watch his games though, you see that it's a bit of an illusion.
Solefade
06-01-2014, 03:23 AM
The voters will not be fooled again by someone who just scores and does little else, best record or not.


this, voters will def reconsider KD now
Milbuck
06-01-2014, 03:35 AM
Meh. His stats looked pretty good as they did in the playoffs. When you actually watch his games though, you see that it's a bit of an illusion.
Not really. During the playoffs, absolutely. But during that stretch without Westbrook when he really cemented his MVP status, there was no illusion. Dude put up 37/6/6/2/1 on 69% TS with a 13-4 record over an entire month without Westbrook.
Unbiased_one
06-01-2014, 08:51 AM
Durant's playoff performance has guaranteed it for bran
Prometheus
06-01-2014, 09:07 AM
If their individual statistics and team records were identical to this season, Durant would win the MVP over LeBron 100% of the time.
maybeshewill13
06-01-2014, 09:15 AM
Meh. His stats looked pretty good as they did in the playoffs. When you actually watch his games though, you see that it's a bit of an illusion.
That's bull shit and you all know it. Durant was unreal in the regular season, and thoroughly deserved the MVP. Lebron stepped it up and was clearly the better player in the playoffs where it really mattered though. Still, MVP is a regular season award and Durant was the deserving winner this year.
NumberSix
06-01-2014, 09:15 AM
If their individual statistics and team records were identical to this season, Durant would win the MVP over LeBron 100% of the time.
Dran is pure shit on defense
Beastmode88
06-01-2014, 09:22 AM
Dran is pure shit on defense

This league plays defense? :lebronamazed:
joeysms55
06-01-2014, 09:47 AM
Not really. During the playoffs, absolutely. But during that stretch without Westbrook when he really cemented his MVP status, there was no illusion. Dude put up 37/6/6/2/1 on 69% TS with a 13-4 record over an entire month without Westbrook.

He didn't cement his MVP when Westbrook was out. When Miami beat the OKC at their home floor (Westbrook is already back), Lebron took over the MVP race. Then also I remember OKC went to a losing streak after their lost to Miami that made Lebron clearly ahead of the race. Then Miami decide to continue to take it easy in the regular season. Hell, they didn't even care about the number 1 seed in the east when they can get a hold on it
Springsteen
06-01-2014, 09:51 AM
Durant needs to make one of these if he wants to go back to the finals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0hfpTLbZdQ

Probably the same song if he wants to be certain.
AintNoSunshine
06-01-2014, 10:05 AM
These are the two premier players in the league by a distance. This year, for the first time in a long time someone other than Lebron won the MVP. People argued that it was a bit of Lebron fatigue that helped Durant win the MVP.

My question is: will people use this, another loss in the Conf. finals, against him in the MVP voting next year even if he has the same kind of season?

http://s15.postimg.org/4htzxqkdn/image.pnghttp://s27.postimg.org/88dxeshib/i_1.png


Playoffs after playoffs, Durant really make me doubt it. Last year he was a complete no show in the 4th quarters against the Grizz, that was so bad it was Lebron 2010 level.

This year in the PO he hasn't impressed either, sure he put up decent numbers but impact wise, he isn't even better than WB