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B4llin
06-01-2014, 08:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oDoEr5j.png

Can someone do this and put Lebron James up against Pippen? Might be a more favorabel match up for Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/oDoEr5j.png

Lebron James first 2 Finals Appearances
PPG: 19.50

RPG: 7.10

APG: 6.8

FG%: 42

FT%: 65

3P%: 27


Scottie Pippen first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 20.82

RPG: 8.82

APG: 7.18

FG%: 47

FT%: 83

3P%: 21

Kobe Bryant First 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 22.1

RPG: 6.7

APG: 5.1

FG%: 39

FT%: 85

3P%: 27

Dwyane Wade first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 30.6

RPG: 7.4

APG: 4.5

FG%: .507

FT%: .721

3P%: .290

Lebron has to worry about getting past these 3 on the All time list before he breaks into the top 10. Lebron James is a second option. The only way he can win is by playing with two other first options. Kobe and Pippen only needed one first option to help them win 5+ championships each.

Lebron isn't even past D-Wade on the All Time list, and he has had to play with him and another first option to win a ring

livinglegend
06-01-2014, 08:31 PM
finals havent even started, you are already getting insecure :oldlol: :oldlol:

BlkMambaGOAT
06-01-2014, 08:32 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/12ey1CgA3uTqfK/giphy.gif

jzek
06-01-2014, 08:32 PM
Wish Kobe was in that comparison...

kNicKz
06-01-2014, 08:32 PM
the current bandwagon plaguing this site be like

http://i.imgur.com/KUpE97e.gif

B4llin
06-01-2014, 08:36 PM
the current bandwagon plaguing this site be like

http://i.imgur.com/KUpE97e.gif


Lebron gonna be 2 for 5 and shooting a terrible % against Kawhi.

Watch the Refs go 2006 Heat mode to save Lebrons legacy.

Rodmantheman
06-01-2014, 08:46 PM
Lebron gonna be 2 for 5 and shooting a terrible % against Kawhi.

Watch the Refs go 2006 Heat mode to save Lebrons legacy.


Which one is it:facepalm

stalkerforlife
06-01-2014, 08:46 PM
Can someone do Pippen vs Bron?

Calabis
06-01-2014, 09:05 PM
the current bandwagon plaguing this site be like

http://i.imgur.com/KUpE97e.gif

:applause:

they like

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfalmvwlsi1qacnr6o1_400.gif

Fudge
06-01-2014, 09:07 PM
We're waiting on Pippen vs Bran.

theoneneo
06-01-2014, 09:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oDoEr5j.png

Can someone do this and put Lebron James up against Pippen? Might be a more favorabel match up for Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/oDoEr5j.png

:applause: Wonderful Ether my friend.

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:13 PM
:applause: Wonderful Ether my friend.


I wonder what Kobe's stats are compared to this too :applause:

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Lebron James first 2 Finals Appearances
PPG: 19.50

RPG: 7.10

APG: 6.8

FG%: 42

FT%: 65

3P%: 27


Scottie Pippen first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 20.82

RPG: 8.82

APG: 7.18

FG%: 47

FT%: 83

3P%: 21

Kobe Bryant First 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 22.1

RPG: 6.7

APG: 5.1

FG%: 39

FT%: 85

3P%: 27

Dwyane Wade first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 30.6

RPG: 7.4

APG: 4.5

FG%: .507

FT%: .721

3P%: .290

Lebron has to worry about getting past these 3 on the All time list before he breaks into the top 10. Lebron James is a second option. The only way he can win is by playing with two other first options. Kobe and Pippen only needed one first option to help them win 5+ championships each.

Lebron isn't even past D-Wade on the All Time list, and he has had to play with him and another first option to win a ring

nathanjizzle
06-01-2014, 09:20 PM
why do we need stats to prove jordan is better than lebron? because of young lebron stans that actually think hes remotely close to jordan.:lol

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:22 PM
why do we need stats to prove jordan is better than lebron? because of young lebron stans that actually think hes remotely close to jordan.:lol

Most of all because people think Lebron is the only player on the Heat. Lebron wouldn't be winning shit without two first options and people seem to forget that.

stalkerforlife
06-01-2014, 09:23 PM
Lebron James first 2 Finals Appearances
PPG: 19.50

RPG: 7.10

APG: 6.8

FG%: 42

FT%: 65

3P%: 27


Scottie Pippen first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 20.82

RPG: 8.82

APG: 7.18

FG%: 47

FT%: 83

3P%: 21

Kobe Bryant First 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 22.1

RPG: 6.7

APG: 5.1

FG%: 39

FT%: 85

3P%: 27

Lebron has to worry about getting past these 2 on the All time list before he breaks into the top 10.

:facepalm

Reaching Jordan is literally impossible at this point.

However, I didn't realize how well Pippen performed. My goodness. :applause:

Calabis
06-01-2014, 09:24 PM
Pippen First 4 Finals with OP's criteria

PPG: 19.6

FG: 42.9%

3pt: 16.3%

FT: 72.4%

stalkerforlife
06-01-2014, 09:25 PM
Pippen First 4 Finals with OP's criteria

PPG: 19.6

FG: 42.9%

3pt: 16.3%

FT: 72.4%

RPG? APG? SPG? BPG?

Thanks.

Marlo_Stanfield
06-01-2014, 09:25 PM
LeBrons first two finals series taint his overall averages.
he will go down as one of the GOAT finals performers.
since hes a better playoff performer and better than Jordan at everything he will surpass him eventually.
yeah right now Jordan is a better Finals performer but then again LeBron went to 5 finals in the time Jordan only went to 2:roll: :roll: :roll:

stalkerforlife
06-01-2014, 09:26 PM
LeBrons first two finals series taint his overall averages.
he will go down as one of the GOAT finals performers.
since hes a better playoff performer and better than Jordan at everything he will surpass him eventually.
yeah right now Jordan is a better Finals performer but then again LeBron went to 5 finals in the time Jordan only went to 2:roll: :roll: :roll:

:biggums:

Rocketswin2013
06-01-2014, 09:27 PM
Lebron James first 2 Finals Appearances
PPG: 19.50

RPG: 7.10

APG: 6.8

FG%: 42

FT%: 65

3P%: 27


Scottie Pippen first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 20.82

RPG: 8.82

APG: 7.18

FG%: 47

FT%: 83

3P%: 21

Kobe Bryant First 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 22.1

RPG: 6.7

APG: 5.1

FG%: 39

FT%: 85

3P%: 27

Lebron has to worry about getting past these 2 on the All time list before he breaks into the top 10. Lebron James is a second option. The only way he can win is by playing with two other first options. Kobe and Pippen only needed one first option to help them win 5+ championships each.
Literally lol'd. Bran and Kobe :facepalm

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:28 PM
Pippen First 4 Finals with OP's criteria

PPG: 19.6

FG: 42.9%

3pt: 16.3%

FT: 72.4%

Pretty damn close to 'first option' Bron.

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:29 PM
:biggums:

Translation

"Lebron James' numbers are tainted because he isn't that good, if he was good he would have better numbers"

:biggums:

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BRl2FfW.jpg

R.I.P Lebron James

Rodmantheman
06-01-2014, 09:32 PM
If Lebron has a great Finals this thread is getting bumped:oldlol:

Beastmode88
06-01-2014, 09:34 PM
34 PPG? :biggums:

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:34 PM
If Lebron has a great Finals this thread is getting bumped:oldlol:

Then we can debate on whether or not with his 3rd ring he surpasses Pippen?

Still be a long way off

Rodmantheman
06-01-2014, 09:37 PM
Then we can debate on whether or not with his 3rd ring he surpasses Pippen?

Still be a long way off

:biggums: He been past pippen and close to surpassing Bird.

Calabis
06-01-2014, 09:38 PM
RPG? APG? SPG? BPG?

Thanks.

:roll: I just did the op's stats...I'll get them later

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:38 PM
:biggums: He been past pippen and close to surpassing Bird.

:facepalm

Rodmantheman
06-01-2014, 09:40 PM
:facepalm

your in the minority here buddy:oldlol:

B4llin
06-01-2014, 09:40 PM
:roll: I just did the op's stats...I'll get them later

Don't wait too long, Lebron James' stat are getting worse by the minute.

mehyaM24
06-01-2014, 09:42 PM
misleading. jordan faced horrible defenses in the finals.

LMAO at 40ppg in the finals vs "thunder dan" :oldlol:

sdot_thadon
06-01-2014, 09:45 PM
Seems like around this time of the year, after lebron makes the finals, after someone compares him to Jordan there's some insecurity floating in the air.......

Straight up though Mj has performed way better in the finals, however not without a few caveats.

Calabis
06-01-2014, 09:46 PM
RPG? APG? SPG? BPG?

Thanks.


Pippen First 4 Finals Stats

PPG: 19.6

FG: 42.9%

3pt: 16.3%

FT: 72.4%

Rebs: 8.7

Ast: 7.3

Stl: 2.1

Blks: .084

:eek:

Kvnzhangyay
06-01-2014, 09:48 PM
Lmao at all these younglings having never watched Jordan acting like Jordan is a God

Bran's not as great as Jordan, but the difference between how much Jordan is more IMPACTFUL on the game than Lebron is less than the difference between how much better Lebron is than Bird

Now career wise, Jordan is miles ahead

GODbe
06-01-2014, 09:49 PM
:sleeping Jordans stats are just as skewed as Wilts.

Calabis
06-01-2014, 09:49 PM
misleading. jordan faced horrible defenses in the finals.

LMAO at 40ppg in the finals vs "thunder dan" :oldlol:

Who did Lebron face when he lost?

Jason Terry? :roll:

At Least thunder Dan has some defensive teams under his belt

DonDadda59
06-01-2014, 09:55 PM
misleading. jordan faced horrible defenses in the finals.

LMAO at 40ppg in the finals vs "thunder dan" :oldlol:

The Spurs defense on Bron last year consisted of Boris Diaw looking at him from 5-10 ft away :oldlol:

And Bron scored 8 points in a finals game that saw him guarded by Jason Kidd for stretches as well as Jason Terry.

The same Jason Terry who outscored him for the series coming off the bench.

True Story.

Hey Yo
06-01-2014, 09:58 PM
Don't wait too long, Lebron James' stat are getting worse by the minute.
Maybe Silver will change the rules for LeBron (like Stern did for MJ) next year?

" whaaaaa Pistons to physical, whaaaaaa"

IllegalD
06-01-2014, 10:01 PM
Can someone post the complete stats? With rebounds, assists, steals, blocks included?

Roundball_Rock
06-01-2014, 10:01 PM
However, I didn't realize how well Pippen performed. My goodness. :applause:

Pippen nearly had triple double averages in three Finals: lines of 21/9/8, 21/8/8, 21/9/7 along with dominant defense. :bowdown: Yet some clowns (basically all of them MJ stans) act like he had no role in winning 6 rings? :roll:

A note on Pippen's threes, he did not make threes a big part of his game until 1994, so while his percentage is low for his first few Finals he simply was not taking many three pointers. Pippen became a solid three point shooter in the final 10 years or so of his career.

pauk
06-01-2014, 10:02 PM
11' is one thing, but trying to withhold Lebron for 07' is like trying to degrade somebody for coming up 2nd on a F1 race using only a skateboard, you can be a winner by not ultimately ending up winning it all... its something Jordan wasnt able to do with similar or better supporting cast, especially not at the age of 21... if Lebron didnt go to that Finals with the worst supporting cast to ever be in a NBA Finals, then we wouldnt have this thread, then Lebron would also be "2/3 in Finals"... clearly better than "2/4 in Finals"... or is it? Because its clearly more prestigious for Lebron in 07' to NOT have done what he did?

Context my friend...

Calabis
06-01-2014, 10:02 PM
The Spurs defense on Bron last year consisted of Boris Diaw looking at him from 5-10 ft away :oldlol:

And Bron scored 8 points in a finals game that saw him guarded by Jason Kidd for stretches as well as Jason Terry.

The same Jason Terry who outscored him for the series coming off the bench.

True Story.

That shit is hard though

Calabis
06-01-2014, 10:04 PM
Pippen nearly had triple double averages in three Finals: 21/9/8, 21/8/8, 21/9/7 lines. :bowdown: Yet some clowns (basically all of them MJ stans) act like he had no role in winning 6 rings? :roll:

A note on Pippen's threes, he did not make threes a big part of his game until 1994, so while his percentage is low for his first few Finals he simply was not taking many three pointers. Pippen became a solid three point shooter in the final 10 years or so of his career.

:wtf:

Who? I never heard anyone say Pippen didn't do shit

DonDadda59
06-01-2014, 10:10 PM
That shit is hard though

Especially since Diaw is so damn athletic. Bigger, stronger, faster. Playing that advanced LeBron rules defense. Not as physically taxing as the Jordan Rules. But the mental toll on Bron when Boris silently judges his jumper from afar is tough. :(

Let's see how many wide open mid range jumpers the Spurs dare Bron to take this year. Can't wait.

HoopsFanNumero1
06-01-2014, 10:11 PM
So Pippen average nearly a triple double for his first three Finals? :eek:

No wonder Jordan was a career loser without Pippen.

sdot_thadon
06-01-2014, 10:17 PM
I love how some of these guys marginalize the defense lebron has faced in a few of his finals. In 2011 vs dallas they played box and 1 on James which is somewhat an offshoot of the way the spurs play him as well. With these types of schemes the prinary defender isnt so much important as the guys supporting him. Even with that said if you make a list of Lebron's primary defenders and take into account the scheme it came within, it beats the hell out of anyhting Mj faced outside of 96 against Gp. We all see how that went, his worst finals....

B4llin
06-01-2014, 10:22 PM
Has anyone got Wades stats for his first 4 finals appearances?

Lebron just keeps going further and further down the list.

stalkerforlife
06-01-2014, 10:25 PM
Pippen First 4 Finals Stats

PPG: 19.6

FG: 42.9%

3pt: 16.3%

FT: 72.4%

Rebs: 8.7

Ast: 7.3

Stl: 2.1

Blks: .084

:eek:

Thanks. :applause:

JUDGE WITNESS
06-01-2014, 10:25 PM
So Pippen average nearly a triple double for his first three Finals? :eek:

No wonder Jordan was a career loser without Pippen.
1-9 :lol

Calabis
06-01-2014, 10:38 PM
Has anyone got Wades stats for his first 4 finals appearances?

Lebron just keeps going further and further down the list.

Wade denotes(career totals)

22.9 PPG (25.9)

5.6 REB (6.2)

5.0 AST (4.7)

1.6 STL (1.9)

1.3 BLK (1.25)

48.5% FG (48%)

32.5% 3PT (32.5%)

74.6% FT (75.4%)

Calabis
06-01-2014, 10:39 PM
Thanks. :applause:

First 3 peat was ridiculous, 4th chip brought his numbers down

Calabis
06-01-2014, 10:48 PM
So Pippen average nearly a triple double for his first three Finals? :eek:

No wonder Jordan was a career loser without Pippen.

:rolleyes: Yeah because he carried the dude that avg this in the first three peat

36 PPG
6.6 REB
8.0 AST
2.0 STL
53% FG
44% 3PT

BigBoss
06-01-2014, 10:49 PM
Lebron 2/5
MJ 6/6

40 percent vs 100 percent

Only stat that matters

No comparison.

poido123
06-01-2014, 10:51 PM
So Pippen average nearly a triple double for his first three Finals? :eek:

No wonder Jordan was a career loser without Pippen.



You are so reaching :oldlol:

Roundball_Rock
06-01-2014, 10:53 PM
First 3 peat was ridiculous, 4th chip brought his numbers down

Yeah, he had multiple injuries that year in the playoffs. He was performing at a MVP-level for 3/4 of the season before tendinitis and other issues popped up. He finished 5th but it would have been interesting to see where he would have finished absent that. He was close to Hakeem in the final vote so he almost certainly would have been 4th, perhaps even 3rd absent late health issues. Healthy 96' Pippen was probably the best version of Pippen.

B4llin
06-01-2014, 11:09 PM
OP Updated with D-Wade, Lebron dwarfing performances in the finals.

LeBird
06-01-2014, 11:19 PM
Gonna need to put OP on suicide watch when Lebron completes his 3-peat.

mehyaM24
06-01-2014, 11:45 PM
does anyone honestly think lebron wouldn't wreck with that white boy, majerle? or danny 'baseball player' ainge? gimme a break :facepalm

idiots are seriously comparing that competition to marion,terry,kidd,stevenson LOL

DonDadda59
06-01-2014, 11:57 PM
does anyone honestly think lebron wouldn't wreck with that white boy, majerle? or danny 'baseball player' ainge? gimme a break :facepalm

idiots are seriously comparing that competition to marion,terry,kidd,stevenson LOL

This thread is too much! The day that Michael Jordan gets outscored in the FINALS by a midget bench player...

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/cshel86/Charlie-Murphy-Laughing-Chappelles-Show-Prince_zpsbafb296e.gif

PostUpFreak
06-02-2014, 12:06 AM
today > 90's
MJ is still better than LeBron doe...for now

DonDadda59
06-02-2014, 12:07 AM
today > 90's


The gift that keeps on giving

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/cshel86/Charlie-Murphy-Laughing-Chappelles-Show-Prince_zpsbafb296e.gif

stalkerforlife
06-02-2014, 12:08 AM
This thread is too much! The day that Michael Jordan gets outscored in the FINALS by a midget bench player...

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/cshel86/Charlie-Murphy-Laughing-Chappelles-Show-Prince_zpsbafb296e.gif

lolol

Love me some Charlie Murphy!

mehyaM24
06-02-2014, 12:14 AM
This thread is too much! The day that Michael Jordan gets outscored in the FINALS by a midget bench player...

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/cshel86/Charlie-Murphy-Laughing-Chappelles-Show-Prince_zpsbafb296e.gif

you actually think those clowns were good defenders, don? cmon son. :coleman:

kidd and marion both took turns defending lebron. same with steveson and terry.

if you watch the suns series, jordan is practically iso'd every possession with majerle or ainge....

DonDadda59
06-02-2014, 12:25 AM
kidd and marion both took turns defending lebron. same with steveson and terry.


Word? Kidd and Marion?

This Dude? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDfGaV6Da_g)

And him? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKKhY4BGhNM)

But Jordan would get outscored by a midget bench player in his prime, playing much older versions of those guys?

You can't make this shit up.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6067/6081114162_eae14ba471_o.gif

AintNoSunshine
06-02-2014, 12:30 AM
So Jordan had a second option of the caliber of Lebron? No wonder he won 6 titles as long as Pippen was there.

Rodmantheman
06-02-2014, 12:50 AM
You guys are idiots this weakness Jordan greatness look how great pippen was. Imagine no pippen in all 6 appearances he wouldn't have been perfect.

Micku
06-02-2014, 01:12 AM
you actually think those clowns were good defenders, don? cmon son. :coleman:

kidd and marion both took turns defending lebron. same with steveson and terry.

if you watch the suns series, jordan is practically iso'd every possession with majerle or ainge....


Heh. I know this is a bit pointless and fun bashing, but KJ guarded MJ a lot in the Suns series and Majerle.

With the Heat vs Mavs, you saw this a few times:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

riseagainst
06-02-2014, 01:18 AM
LeBrons first two finals series taint his overall averages.
he will go down as one of the GOAT finals performers.
since hes a better playoff performer and better than Jordan at everything he will surpass him eventually.
yeah right now Jordan is a better Finals performer but then again LeBron went to 5 finals in the time Jordan only went to 2:roll: :roll: :roll:

what is the actual f)ck?

:oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Mr Feeny
06-02-2014, 04:53 AM
Heh. I know this is a bit pointless and fun bashing, but KJ guarded MJ a lot in the Suns series and Majerle.

With the Heat vs Mavs, you saw this a few times:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

Don't feed the troll. He's only started watching the NBA four years ago. Wouldn't know who KJ is.

Beastmode88
06-02-2014, 07:24 AM
Heh. I know this is a bit pointless and fun bashing, but KJ guarded MJ a lot in the Suns series and Majerle.

With the Heat vs Mavs, you saw this a few times:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

Don't forget Jason Eugene Terry. :cheers:

diamenz
06-02-2014, 07:39 AM
surely yesteryear's perimeter defenders weren't as athletic as they are now, but there's also not many ibakas, eatons, mutombo's, robinsons and hakeems on today's court.

with three point shooting not being a focal point back in the day, the paint was sacred and clogged... lebron wouldn't be able to bully his way to the basket as easily. not to say he would be bad, but he just doesn't have that finesse or those quick adjustments to dominate in the paint the way he does today.

Calabis
06-02-2014, 09:54 AM
does anyone honestly think lebron wouldn't wreck with that white boy, majerle? or danny 'baseball player' ainge? gimme a break :facepalm

idiots are seriously comparing that competition to marion,terry,kidd,stevenson LOL

U sir may be one of the worst posters in awhile...at least on this topic. U bring up Marion who couldnt hold Jordan at 39...Kidd and his Nets destroyed by Jordan for 40+. Ur ignorance is showing...Majerle is white so no way could he defend.....hes a better defender than Stevenson and Terry thats for sure. Marion is a wash to me.

annbafan
06-02-2014, 10:08 AM
Jordan:applause:

I hope to see James put up something big this year in the finals.

ArbitraryWater
06-02-2014, 10:23 AM
Jordan was a better finals performer? congrats..as if i didnt know already

ArbitraryWater
06-02-2014, 10:24 AM
Which one is it:facepalm

:lol

KOBE143
06-02-2014, 10:27 AM
So Pippen average nearly a triple double for his first three Finals? :eek:

No wonder Jordan was a career loser without Pippen.

Pippen is criminally underrated player.. Probably the most underrated player of all time..

russwest0
06-02-2014, 10:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/oDoEr5j.png

Can someone do this and put Lebron James up against Pippen? Might be a more favorabel match up for Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/oDoEr5j.png

Lebron James first 2 Finals Appearances
PPG: 19.50

RPG: 7.10

APG: 6.8

FG%: 42

FT%: 65

3P%: 27


Scottie Pippen first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 20.82

RPG: 8.82

APG: 7.18

FG%: 47

FT%: 83

3P%: 21

Kobe Bryant First 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 22.1

RPG: 6.7

APG: 5.1

FG%: 39

FT%: 85

3P%: 27

Dwyane Wade first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 30.6

RPG: 7.4

APG: 4.5

FG%: .507

FT%: .721

3P%: .290

Lebron has to worry about getting past these 3 on the All time list before he breaks into the top 10. Lebron James is a second option. The only way he can win is by playing with two other first options. Kobe and Pippen only needed one first option to help them win 5+ championships each.

Lebron isn't even past D-Wade on the All Time list, and he has had to play with him and another first option to win a ring

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I wonder what shit LeBron stans will come up with to explain this.

hitmanyr2k
06-02-2014, 11:50 AM
Pippen nearly had triple double averages in three Finals: lines of 21/9/8, 21/8/8, 21/9/7 along with dominant defense. :bowdown: Yet some clowns (basically all of them MJ stans) act like he had no role in winning 6 rings? :roll:

A note on Pippen's threes, he did not make threes a big part of his game until 1994, so while his percentage is low for his first few Finals he simply was not taking many three pointers. Pippen became a solid three point shooter in the final 10 years or so of his career.

The '96 Finals really took down Pippen's averages quite a bit. He was playing with an assortment of injuries from March of that year through the entire playoff run similar to Wade the past couple of years.

Roundball_Rock
06-02-2014, 12:12 PM
The '96 Finals really took down Pippen's averages quite a bit. He was playing with an assortment of injuries from March of that year through the entire playoff run similar to Wade the past couple of years.

Yup. Prior to his injuries he arguably was even better than he was in 94' and 95'. Remember MJ campaigning for Pippen as MVP early in the season?

r15mohd
06-02-2014, 12:18 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause:

I wonder what shit LeBron stans will come up with to explain this.


everyone of those series had a top-10 all-time player alongside them during those particular Finals, except for Lebron who has only had Wade as a running mate (not top-10)

facts are facts :confusedshrug:

NumberSix
06-02-2014, 01:25 PM
LeBron plays AGAINST the refs. Jordan played WITH them.

Paul George 24
06-02-2014, 01:31 PM
does anyone honestly think lebron wouldn't wreck with that white boy, majerle? or danny 'baseball player' ainge? gimme a break :facepalm

idiots are seriously comparing that competition to marion,terry,kidd,stevenson LOL
lol mj of this era

http://www.morningprint.com/updata/user_img/nanna20140603021838.gif

The-Legend-24
06-02-2014, 01:34 PM
:oldlol: :oldlol:

ImKobe
06-02-2014, 01:51 PM
Lebron James first 2 Finals Appearances
PPG: 19.50

RPG: 7.10

APG: 6.8

FG%: 42

FT%: 65

3P%: 27


Scottie Pippen first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 20.82

RPG: 8.82

APG: 7.18

FG%: 47

FT%: 83

3P%: 21

Kobe Bryant First 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 22.1

RPG: 6.7

APG: 5.1

FG%: 39

FT%: 85

3P%: 27

Dwyane Wade first 2 Finals Appearances

PPG: 30.6

RPG: 7.4

APG: 4.5

FG%: .507

FT%: .721

3P%: .290

Lebron has to worry about getting past these 3 on the All time list before he breaks into the top 10. Lebron James is a second option. The only way he can win is by playing with two other first options. Kobe and Pippen only needed one first option to help them win 5+ championships each.

Lebron isn't even past D-Wade on the All Time list, and he has had to play with him and another first option to win a ring

Useless putting Kobe there, when he was injured during most of the 2000 Finals and played like 2 minutes in one of those games before going out with a serious ankle sprain...

And it's really convenient for Wade, who's 06 Finals was right after NBA eliminated all forms of handchecking and there was a huge boom in scoring that year in the league because perimeter players could abuse teams with the new rules, Wade took an insane amount of FTs in the Finals because he was lightning quick and because even a slight amount of contact from the defender would be a handcheck call..

Calabis
06-02-2014, 02:34 PM
LeBron plays AGAINST the refs. Jordan played WITH them.

All aboard

http://www.imcdb.org/i082757.jpg

Jordan 9.9 FTA per game in playoffs

Lebron 9.8 FTA per game in playoffs

:facepalm

Calabis
06-02-2014, 02:35 PM
everyone of those series had a top-10 all-time player alongside them during those particular Finals, except for Lebron who has only had Wade as a running mate (not top-10)

facts are facts :confusedshrug:

:facepalm

Wade was not a top 10 player against Mavs:wtf:

r15mohd
06-02-2014, 02:45 PM
:facepalm

Wade was not a top 10 player against Mavs:wtf:

taken in the context of all-time rankings

he was definitely tops in the league for that particular year...but Scottie had MJ who was considered THE best player to touch a court after his 1st title and Kobe having the most dominant big man ever to play the game

Lebron had no-one in 2007, and in 2011, Wade was definitely a star player but nothing compared to MJ and Shaq's impact, respectively

stalkerforlife
06-02-2014, 03:25 PM
All aboard

http://www.imcdb.org/i082757.jpg

Jordan 9.9 FTA per game in playoffs

Lebron 9.8 FTA per game in playoffs

:facepalm

lol

These kids kill me, bro.

veilside23
06-02-2014, 04:37 PM
you actually think those clowns were good defenders, don? cmon son. :coleman:

kidd and marion both took turns defending lebron. same with steveson and terry.

if you watch the suns series, jordan is practically iso'd every possession with majerle or ainge....


an old Jason terry can defend LeBron :wtf:

what are you on:biggums: ?

veilside23
06-02-2014, 04:42 PM
truth hurts

:applause:

SamuraiSWISH
06-02-2014, 05:37 PM
Especially since Diaw is so damn athletic. Bigger, stronger, faster. Playing that advanced LeBron rules defense. Not as physically taxing as the Jordan Rules. But the mental toll on Bron when Boris silently judges his jumper from afar is tough.
http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/705074/flags/LL

TheMan
06-02-2014, 07:22 PM
U sir may be one of the worst posters in awhile...at least on this topic. U bring up Marion who couldnt hold Jordan at 39...Kidd and his Nets destroyed by Jordan for 40+. Ur ignorance is showing...Majerle is white so no way could he defend.....hes a better defender than Stevenson and Terry thats for sure. Marion is a wash to me.
That mehyaM24 dude really needs to put in some work when it comes to past bball knowledge :facepalm ...Marion has said that his all time toughest defensive cover was MJ, and were talking about a past his prime Jordan :oldlol: Imagine if he had to cover prime MJ :eek:

These youngins are clueless

juju151111
06-02-2014, 11:43 PM
LeBron trying hard but failing.