Kobe has never shot above 47 percent. Lebron has done it all but 1 season.

[JohnMax]

Young LeBron couldn't make a jumper to save his life yet he shot over 47% in his SECOND season (and every season beyond).

Meanwhile, Bean has never shot 47% in his 18 NBA seasons.

And that's without even bringing up the fact that a wing player's shooting percentage should increase when you have constantly had legit centers drawing triple/double teams throughout your career.

How do you have trouble shooting 47% when you had Shaq drawing triple teams and Bynum/Gasol/Howard drawing double teams?

I don't know what the hell is wrong with people that think LeBron James and Bean Bryant are in the same stratosphere when it comes to putting the ball in the basket in NBA basketball... it's not even close to being close.

[tgan3]

lebron points are scored in the paint= better fg%
Kobe points are scored shooting in the perimeter, fadeaways = lower fg%.

Thus lebron is the better player no secret.

[Micku]

The answer is a bit simple I guess. LBJ at finishing>Kobe.

LBJ in his second year shot 71% at the rim. He shot 7 attempts there too.
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=2544&zone-mode=basic&Season=2004-05

Kobe highest FG% was in 2002. Kobe shot 65% and he shot 5 attempts there too.
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=977&zone-mode=basic&Season=2001-02

I'm pretty sure LBJ average more attempts per game at the rim than Kobe ever did and he finished better too. To prove it, look at LBJ second year. He had 557 shot attempts at the restricted era. In 2006, where Kobe took the most FGA, he only had 451 shot attempts. I think that in 2006, this was the most shot attempts Kobe ever had at the rim.

Oh. Not to mention Kobe has bad shot selection.

[Warfan]

Lebron uses his athleticism and IQ to get to to good spots on the floor and finish or create for teammates. Kobes shot selection isn't always the best and he thinks he can make whatever shot he wants (which isn't far from the truth). He has the skills and ability to create and make any shot even if the defense is all over him. He's mentality and approach is different to lbj, in that his first move is to attack and try and finish the play himself, whereas lebron has the ability to do that aswell but also tries to pick the defense apart more and get teammates good looks more often then kobe. For these reasons, lbj has been more consistently effective on offense compared to kobe.

[IllegalD]

If it wasn't close to being close then you would just be secure about it and let it be, yet here is another Kobe-related thread in the front-page made by an insecure LeBron Stan.

[raprap]

Lbj just takes smarter shots.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Lebron uses his athleticism and IQ to get to to good spots on the floor and finish or create for teammates. Kobes shot selection isn't always the best and he thinks he can make whatever shot he wants (which isn't far from the truth). He has the skills and ability to create and make any shot even if the defense is all over him. He's mentality and approach is different to lbj, in that his first move is to attack and try and finish the play himself, whereas lebron has the ability to do that aswell but also tries to pick the defense apart more and get teammates good looks more often then kobe. For these reasons, lbj has been more consistently effective on offense compared to kobe.


:applause:

[Quickening]

LeBron is one of the best passers ever, therefore he gets easier shots as teams know he will find the open man, plus he is more athletic, higher basketball iq and better at finishing. So it's not surprising he is on a far higher percentage/ far better player.

[Lebronxrings]

wow even dubeta laughs at that. :oldlol:

[AirFederer]

The skill to get easy lay ups was never a high priority for Kobe :lol

Kobe, imho, would have been more effective if he had more finishes at the rim and if he passed more. As it was, defence knew he`d nearly always finish the play himself, whereas Lelbron can`t be guarded like that because of his passing. Just stating the obvious.

[Ne 1]

Did you ever consider that most of LeBron's points are dunks, layups or close runners? btw, Kobe's efficiency has always been excellent given his usage and volume. The league average for SG's is around 42-43%, Kobe hovered around 45-47% for most of his career. The truth is Kobe being inefficient over his career is a myth. He has always been efficient relative to league average, even in most of his highest-volume shooting seasons. In fact, he had excellent efficiency over his prime. He was at a excellent +3-4% relative to league average TS% from 2001-2009. That's as good as the "efficiency God" Dwayne Wade or 2nd 3-peat Jordan. At no point in his career has Kobe been under league average efficency and he takes many last second shots. You say Shaq made the game easier for Kobe because he was getting double teamed. I find this hilarious because Kobe would also draw double teams too and made the game easier for Shaq as well. How many times have we seen highlights from that era of Kobe penetrating into the paint, drawing a second defender then dropping the ball into Shaqs hands for an open power slam? People always brings this up as if Kobe was just getting spoon feed open shots. Teams weren't playing off of Kobe to double Shaq, the double teams came from the other positions more often than not. If anything, Kobe directly created for Shaq more with his penetration. Kobe's points didn't come easily, and he provided more than just scoring.

[Quickening]

Did you ever consider that most of LeBron's points are dunks, layups or close runners? btw, Kobe's efficiency has always been excellent given his usage and volume. The league average for SG's is around 42-43%, Kobe hovered around 45-47% for most of his career. The truth is Kobe being inefficient over his career is a myth. He has always been efficient relative to league average, even in most of his highest-volume shooting seasons. In fact, he had excellent efficiency over his prime. He was at a excellent +3-4% relative to league average TS% from 2001-2009. That's as good as the "efficiency God" Dwayne Wade or 2nd 3-peat Jordan. At no point in his career has Kobe been under league average efficency and he takes many last second shots. You say Shaq made the game easier for Kobe because he was getting double teamed. I find this hilarious because Kobe would also draw double teams too and made the game easier for Shaq as well. How many times have we seen highlights from that era of Kobe penetrating into the paint, drawing a second defender then dropping the ball into Shaqs hands for an open power slam? People always brings this up as if Kobe was just getting spoon feed open shots. Teams weren't playing off of Kobe to double Shaq, the double teams came from the other positions more often than not. If anything, Kobe directly created for Shaq more with his penetration. Kobe's points didn't come easily, and he provided more than just scoring.
You trying to hard.

[nathanjizzle]

because lebron waits for his shots, thats why he is criticized for disappearing so many times.

while kobe is an aggressor. offensive controllers dont have the luxury of taking high percentage shots. thats just the truth:confusedshrug:

[nycjeff45]

fcking idiots explaining why they have twenty dollars in their bank account, its still gonna be twenty dollars dumbass...

[GimmeThat]

while Jr. Smith might have something to say about this

Kobe is probably best at making dumb shots.

which you know, somehow in the 4th quarter, making dumb shots matters.
because the pressure of time makes dumb shots attractive.
because getting an extra posession when you can MAKE dumb shots means a better chance of turning a losing scenario into a winning one.

It's just not in Lebron's nature to take dumb shots
because getting an easy shot is so easy for him
that it's easier for him to believe that someone will make an open 3
then to think for a reason as to why they won't make it

[Eye Test]

the guy just dunks in transition, not impressed. put him in a half court set and he becomes a poor mans steve blake

[Mr Feeny]

the guy just dunks in transition, not impressed. put him in a half court set and he becomes a poor mans steve blake

Solid logic

[Mr. Jabbar]

Solid logic

i just cant shake you off my tail can i?

[Mr Feeny]

i just cant shake you off my tail can i?

Take it easy man. Ur a fun guy. Just playing:oldlol:

[Draz]

If kobe can score like LeBron I'm sure he would. LeBrons points are in the paint.

[JohnFreeman]

How can you discredit LeBron for getting easier shots? :lol

[KOBE143]

LOL at fg%, one of the most overrated stats..

Is shooting 10-20 in the field with 20 points is better than 9-20 with 30 points? :facepalm 50% my ass..

[All Net]

Kobe shot selection has always been an issue even when he doesn't need to take shots he still does. Fg% is something that's never been in His head. Still the shots he takes shows how fearless he was.

[SOD 21]

First off, obviously LeBron James is much more physically gifted with his combination of size, strength and explosiveness. When you combine his high basketball IQ it isn't surprising that he is as efficient as he is.

Kobe Bryant isn't nearly as talented overall as LeBron James is. I consider LeBron James a freak in the range of Shaquille O'Neal or Will Chamberlain type player. But Kobe had an amazing skill level and tenacity that was also a joy to watch. The frustration with Kobe Bryant is that he was always at his best when he let the game come to him and didn't force himself upon the game so much, but usually also resulted in easier scores for both himself and his teammates because he became much less predictable.

But far too often his impatience and determination to take over a game would override common sense and result in low shooting percentages. He would routinely take four or five poor shots each game, which killed his shooting efficiency. His determination to score, at times, made him easier to guard.

I remember when he was young that Ric Bucher did a piece on him where he was shooting a bottle cap into a trashcan on the other side of the room and missed something like 20 or 30 straight times. But eventually, he made it and was boastful to Bucher that he would keep trying until he made it. He basically played basketball the same way.

Both players are great though. Kobe Bryant in the lower half of the top 10 all-time and LeBron James destined to be a top two or three player of all-time.

[JohnFreeman]

Kobe isn't top 10...

[DonDadda59]

[Bean]Kobe is the most double and triple teamed player ever and had to face bigger, stronger, faster hyper athletes and their impenetrable hyper advanced zone defense schemes. Lebron gets to play against unathletic midgets in single coverage. That's why there's such a huge discrepancy between their production and efficiency.[/Stan]

[SOD 21]

Kobe isn't top 10...

That's your opinion.

But what are you basing that off of? I believe it would be pretty difficult to keep him out of the top 10 unless you're very much a hater of him.

[Dr Seuss]

ISH idiots love to cream their pants over alpha players, yet kobe is one of the few players with that obvious alpha mentality of thinking "i can make any shot i take" and you hold it against him?

anyhow, kobe is who he always has been, a very gifted scorer who can take over games at any time, but can also shoot you right out of them. all this efficiency talk you guys constantly quarrel over is way overstated. the guy led/ co-led (for all you whiny detractors) the lakers to 5 rings playing "koME" ball. love it or hate it, the results are there, and not a single legitimate basketball mind will ever pay attention to those ridiculous arguments you guys cry about daily.

[gts]

ISH idiots love to cream their pants over alpha players, yet kobe is one of the few players with that obvious alpha mentality of thinking "i can make any shot i take" and you hold it against him?

anyhow, kobe is who he always has been, a very gifted scorer who can take over games at any time, but can also shoot you right out of them. all this efficiency talk you guys constantly quarrel over is way overstated. the guy led/ co-led (for all you whiny detractors) the lakers to 5 rings playing "koME" ball. love it or hate it, the results are there, and not a single legitimate basketball mind will ever pay attention to those ridiculous arguments you guys cry about daily.

Well said and the fact when you break down the numbers you're talking about one more or less made shot per game... it's not the big huge glaring gap people make it out to be...

[Hoopz2332]

...Kobe's bad shooting is more a product of his selfishness and piss poor bball IQ


Kobe in a crowd he shoots

http://i.imgur.com/hNMaEZe.jpg




lebron in a crowd, he passes

http://i.imgur.com/gcj3We7.jpg

[Keno]

kobe couldn't even make 50% of his shots when he was taking 6 shots per game in his rookie year lmao.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

kobe couldn't even make 50% of his shots when he was taking 6 shots per game in his rookie year lmao.
Boiled down.



Chuckbe/Inefficientbe: 5 rings
LeEfficient/LeCherrypick: 2 rings
:confusedshrug:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Impressive stat OP

[JohnMax]

I was a Lebron stan at the time.

[GimmeThat]

getting a team who is really good at passing the ball to make the adjustment into iso plays after the start of the game, really gives the short guys a chance at out-rebounding the big guys

[NBASTATMAN]

Did you ever consider that most of LeBron's points are dunks, layups or close runners? btw, Kobe's efficiency has always been excellent given his usage and volume. The league average for SG's is around 42-43%, Kobe hovered around 45-47% for most of his career. The truth is Kobe being inefficient over his career is a myth. He has always been efficient relative to league average, even in most of his highest-volume shooting seasons. In fact, he had excellent efficiency over his prime. He was at a excellent +3-4% relative to league average TS% from 2001-2009. That's as good as the "efficiency God" Dwayne Wade or 2nd 3-peat Jordan. At no point in his career has Kobe been under league average efficency and he takes many last second shots. You say Shaq made the game easier for Kobe because he was getting double teamed. I find this hilarious because Kobe would also draw double teams too and made the game easier for Shaq as well. How many times have we seen highlights from that era of Kobe penetrating into the paint, drawing a second defender then dropping the ball into Shaqs hands for an open power slam? People always brings this up as if Kobe was just getting spoon feed open shots. Teams weren't playing off of Kobe to double Shaq, the double teams came from the other positions more often than not. If anything, Kobe directly created for Shaq more with his penetration. Kobe's points didn't come easily, and he provided more than just scoring.



Kobe shooting percentages garbage compared to Durant who takes similar shots. FACE IT KOBE WAS A LOW PERCENTAGE SHOOTING GUNNER:applause:

[Mr Feeny]

kobe couldn't even make 50% of his shots when he was taking 6 shots per game in his rookie year lmao.

:roll: :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

I was a Lebron stan at the time.

But you're still as big of a fakkit