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Dro
06-02-2014, 05:51 PM
Larry Bird and Frank Vogel both hope the Indiana Pacers re-sign Lance Stephenson this summer.

Stephenson will be an unrestricted free agent.

"I think his ceiling is what he wants it to be," Bird said. "I always want him back. You just don't let talent like that walk away if you can help it. (Once he matures his) game is unlimited.

"He's a free agent and can do whatever he wants to do. When it comes down to it, it's up to him whether he wants to be here or not."

Bird said the team has discussed what it will cost to bring Stephenson back but has not determined what they will offer him yet.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...title/9867941/

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lilteapot
06-02-2014, 05:57 PM
Nobody else will want him, so might as well keep him. He's a headcase but talented.

Johnny Jones
06-02-2014, 06:01 PM
Nobody else will want him, so might as well keep him. He's a headcase but talented.
Yea, I'd hate a 23 year old talented shooting guard that has improved every year...

Fiddlesticks
06-02-2014, 06:01 PM
Stephenson>Paul George

GeeWiz
06-02-2014, 06:03 PM
Nobody else will want him, so might as well keep him. He's a headcase but talented.

There are plenty of teams that would want/need a player like him

Done_And_Done
06-02-2014, 06:03 PM
Nobody else will want him, so might as well keep him. He's a headcase but talented.

You can't say that he's strictly confined to Indiana. He's an eccentric character who needs to mature but the talent is there and age is on his side. He'll surely fend offers in addition to Indy's.

PP34Deuce
06-02-2014, 06:18 PM
Stephenson has the potential to be a clutch performer.

Paul George can be that 25 6 and 5 player. Stephenson can be that 19 7 and 6 player

Levity
06-02-2014, 06:25 PM
the boy has skills, but i still dont feel "lance ball" is conducive to winning basketball. However, if they develop a system where he can be a primary ball handler, but at the same time, can limit his over dribbling while improving ball movement, then he definitely can be something special.

the lack of ball movement really destroyed this team this post season

hawksdogsbraves
06-02-2014, 06:28 PM
They need to resign him, he's the only one who can really handle the ball. They play their best when he's initiating the offense.

Of course a good pass-first PG could help change that, I guess that's what the draft is for though.

Nash
06-02-2014, 06:31 PM
He will pick and chose from multiple teams. Bet he'll take more money + better city.

Legends66NBA7
06-02-2014, 06:32 PM
Hope Indiana can keep their core.

Want Toronto (core intact as well) to get another chance at facing their unit. Hopefully even meet in the playoffs.

Dro
06-02-2014, 06:39 PM
the boy has skills, but i still dont feel "lance ball" is conducive to winning basketball. However, if they develop a system where he can be a primary ball handler, but at the same time, can limit his over dribbling while improving ball movement, then he definitely can be something special.

the lack of ball movement really destroyed this team this post season
I agree...Well said.......

Dro
06-02-2014, 06:40 PM
They need to resign him, he's the only one who can really handle the ball. They play their best when he's initiating the offense.

Of course a good pass-first PG could help change that, I guess that's what the draft is for though.
This too, well said........Actually everyone who posted in the thread.......I agree with all of you.....

stalkerforlife
06-02-2014, 06:40 PM
Have to keep him.

Larry Bird ain't no dummy.

gts
06-02-2014, 07:10 PM
Nobody else will want him, so might as well keep him. He's a headcase but talented.

There will plenty of teams out there for him to choose from

mattvNJ
06-02-2014, 07:15 PM
Almost died when i saw ESPN report his agent saying, "there will be no lack of suitors" or something to that tone. I mean guys solid, but night in night out you just do not know what your get from him. Only suitors are bottom feeders who are gonna over-pay the guy. I'd be hesitant at best but id be lying if id say he didn't have a profound effect on the success the pacers saw this year. Upsetting Hibbert seems like hell be a horrid contract. Really like INDY.

Springsteen
06-02-2014, 07:15 PM
There will plenty of teams out there for him to choose from

I can tell you right now without a doubt the Knicks/Lakers/Nets would probably throw a near-max contract at this fool no questions asked.

JimmyMcAdocious
06-02-2014, 07:59 PM
I hope Lance gets near a max or max. Can't wait to watch that unfold.

hawkfan
06-02-2014, 08:02 PM
The Pacers bringing Stephenson back most likely means the Pacers will either renounce the rights to Evan Turner or try to work out a sign and trade for Turner with another team so they get an asset back.

Turner to the Hawks would be ok. He's 25, he definitely had a chance to improve his game in Indy (didn't get much run, but he was joining late in the season), and we need help at small forward.

Maybe a Shelvin Mack for Evan Turner deal. The Pacers get help at point guard with Mack, who is solid and improved this year (and certainly is a better QB at point guard than Hill is) and the Hawks get Turner to help out at small forward.

hawkfan
06-02-2014, 08:04 PM
I can tell you right now without a doubt the Knicks/Lakers/Nets would probably throw a near-max contract at this fool no questions asked.

The Pacers could clear out cap space and try to sign Shaun Livingston to help out at point guard.

Springsteen
06-02-2014, 08:06 PM
The Pacers could clear out cap space and try to sign Shaun Livingston to help out at point guard.

They need Rondo.

gts
06-02-2014, 08:07 PM
I can tell you right now without a doubt the Knicks/Lakers/Nets would probably throw a near-max contract at this fool no questions asked.

Don't know about the numbers teams would be willing to be pay but he's certainly going to get offers for a heck of a lot more than he got paid last year

hawkfan
06-02-2014, 08:08 PM
They need Rondo.

Sure, but why would Indy want to help out Boston? Maybe if the Pacers sent back some first round picks (at least 2 picks that are high in the draft and if the Pacers took on Wallace's contract).

Derka
06-02-2014, 08:16 PM
:oldlol:

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-02-2014, 08:22 PM
I can tell you right now without a doubt the Knicks/Lakers/Nets would probably throw a near-max contract at this fool no questions asked.
:lol

UK2K
06-02-2014, 08:30 PM
The Pacers bringing Stephenson back most likely means the Pacers will either renounce the rights to Evan Turner or try to work out a sign and trade for Turner with another team so they get an asset back.

Turner to the Hawks would be ok. He's 25, he definitely had a chance to improve his game in Indy (didn't get much run, but he was joining late in the season), and we need help at small forward.

Maybe a Shelvin Mack for Evan Turner deal. The Pacers get help at point guard with Mack, who is solid and improved this year (and certainly is a better QB at point guard than Hill is) and the Hawks get Turner to help out at small forward.

Scola has to go to if the Pacers plan on matching the 8-9m Lance will be offered.

Basically, if the Pacers want to keep him, their bench will be gutted. Should S&T now and fill a position of need (PG) or SF (and move PG to the 2, now that'd be unfair).

bdreason
06-02-2014, 09:34 PM
Lance gonna get overpaid somewhere else most likely.

GimmeThat
06-02-2014, 09:58 PM
Unless someone within the Pacers organization are convinced that Stephenson/George/Hibbert are all good buddies and will take pay cuts to play next to each other.

They should look at Hill/Hibberts contract before they decide what money they want to offer Stephenson.

ILLsmak
06-02-2014, 10:11 PM
Larry Bird and Frank Vogel both hope the Indiana Pacers re-sign Lance Stephenson this summer.

Stephenson will be an unrestricted free agent.

"I think his ceiling is what he wants it to be," Bird said. "I always want him back. You just don't let talent like that walk away if you can help it. (Once he matures his) game is unlimited.

"He's a free agent and can do whatever he wants to do. When it comes down to it, it's up to him whether he wants to be here or not."

Bird said the team has discussed what it will cost to bring Stephenson back but has not determined what they will offer him yet.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...title/9867941/

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yea but they sound like they wanna pay like 8 mil a year. He's not gonna sign for that. Bet anything. I dunno if I would, either.

I think they have to either go upwards of ten or make him a pretty amazing promise. Like lie to him that they are going in the right direction. Get hibby working with hall of famers... lol

-Smak

hawksdogsbraves
06-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Scola has to go to if the Pacers plan on matching the 8-9m Lance will be offered.

Basically, if the Pacers want to keep him, their bench will be gutted. Should S&T now and fill a position of need (PG) or SF (and move PG to the 2, now that'd be unfair).

Stephenson will get more than $8 mil/yr. That's what George Hill gets, and you can bet Lance thinks he's a little more valuable than Hill.

The Pacers are going to have to get pretty creative to even afford Stephenson, I can't see him being the kind of guy who takes a paycut.

RoundMoundOfReb
06-02-2014, 10:36 PM
I have a feeling somebody is gonna give Lance 12+ mill

russwest0
06-02-2014, 10:39 PM
my advice to lance: stay in the east

Dro
06-03-2014, 06:00 PM
The Pacers bringing Stephenson back most likely means the Pacers will either renounce the rights to Evan Turner or try to work out a sign and trade for Turner with another team so they get an asset back.

Turner to the Hawks would be ok. He's 25, he definitely had a chance to improve his game in Indy (didn't get much run, but he was joining late in the season), and we need help at small forward.

Maybe a Shelvin Mack for Evan Turner deal. The Pacers get help at point guard with Mack, who is solid and improved this year (and certainly is a better QB at point guard than Hill is) and the Hawks get Turner to help out at small forward.
I wouldn't mind Mack...He went to Butler which is right in the middle of Indianapolis in case anyone didn't know...I think he'd play well here........He showed me something in the ATL series......