MKG jumper progress: 1 month in

[Inferno]

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[FreezingTsmoove]

Ha I hope this fool tries a pull up with that weak shit in the field. I am Lance btw

[Rocketswin2013]

He's gonna get that shit thrown into the stands more often than not. The release is crazy late.

[Levity]

blake griffins release was pretty nasty once upon a time (though, never mkg ulgy) but with proper shooting training, he improved immensely

so given time, maybe this boy will have to be guarded somewhat honestly in the mid range area.

[Cocaine80s]

Seems like it got worse...

[Solefade]

damn that shit is ugly lol

[Kungfro]

I don't know that I've ever seen someone shoot the ball on the way down.

[inclinerator]

why is he shooting on the way down

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Crazy late release. I have one too but I play recreational ball and just sit around the 3 point. I troll my teammates that I play at night (pretty much know all of them and all of us at least know what our teammates are good at). I'm a sharpshooter but I am very hot and cold. If I haven't played for a week, I be shooting like 25% from the field and oddly enough there are some nights I score 8 of the 12 points on like 4/4 shooting.

A lot of the shot involved is technique. Some nights I get stupid and do fadeaways or I don't follow through on my release. Also I feel players should use the backboard more. On angled 3s (not corners), I've started just banking them in like crazy in game. It's probably my best shot in my arsenal. Sadly the name that ISH gives me "I brick open lay ups" do apply to real life :lol . I can't do shit in the paint lol. #guardproblems

[RedBlackAttack]

I really thought with his work ethic, which was legendary at UK, and professional coaches working with him everyday, his jumper would have improved by leaps and bounds by 2014.

It looks as bad as ever in these videos. I'm not sure if it's fixable at this point. He just has no clue how to shoot.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I really thought with his work ethic, which was legendary at UK, and professional coaches working with him everyday, his jumper would have improved by leaps and bounds by 2014.

It looks as bad as ever in these videos. I'm not sure if it's fixable at this point. He just has no clue how to shoot.

Agreed. I also thought he would improve a lot within the first few years. I felt he had a lot of Andre Iguodala without the 20 ppg ability that he once had (in the mid to late 2000s)

[RoseCity07]

Holy sh*t that is terrible. Releasing the ball on the way down. WTF?

I knew this guy was a bust. No one was talking about this guy but the media hyped him. I swear his name is what got him drafted so high.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Holy sh*t that is terrible. Releasing the ball on the way down. WTF?

I knew this guy was a bust. No one was talking about this guy but the media hyped him. I swear his name is what got him drafted so high.

I thought he came out too early but I thought he would be a fringe all star at some point. He's still young.

[Milbuck]

Yikes. Who the hell is teaching him to shoot on the way down with such a late release?

Anyways, just checked his age. Did not know he was still just 20 years old, that's huge for him. If he was a 4-year man out of college and was 23-24 right now, I'd probably say there's no hope. But he's still extremely young, there's plenty of time. I wouldn't give up on him until he's still doing this at 23 or so.

[JohnFreeman]

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[KG215]

Holy sh*t that is terrible. Releasing the ball on the way down. WTF?

I knew this guy was a bust. No one was talking about this guy but the media hyped him. I swear his name is what got him drafted so high.
He went #2 because he had a damn good freshman season and capped it off with a very impressive tournament performance. Who else would you have even heard "talking" about him other than the media? None of us have access to NBA front offices.

I'm not sure about him going #2, but he was rightfully considered a top 5 pick going into a draft with other top prospects who had question marks surrounding them. The only player really considered a sure thing in terms of, at the very least, being a solid All-Star caliber player was Anthony Davis. I always liked Drummond's upside, and obviously he'd go #2 in a re-draft, but his extremely raw postgame, horrendous free throw shooting, and questions about his work ethic obviously had plenty of GMs a little nervous about taking him or he wouldn't have fallen all the way to #9.

[Johnny Jones]

I really thought with his work ethic, which was legendary at UK, and professional coaches working with him everyday, his jumper would have improved by leaps and bounds by 2014.

It looks as bad as ever in these videos. I'm not sure if it's fixable at this point. He just has no clue how to shoot.
Mark Price said last year it would take a few offseasons to get his jumper right.

Can't find the article where he said that but I did find this.


"I take the whole approach to it," Price said, "and just kind of gradually work. I don't try to fix 12 things at one time. You try to gradually improve some areas, get things better, and start working on the next thing."

[russwest0]

I remember thinking that Beal was the clear cut 2nd best player in the draft and that they should have just taken him.

But dipshit lolcats fans were just like "no, we have gerald henderson, we don't need a SG" :oldlol:

[Burgz V2]

Mark Price said last year it would take a few offseasons to get his jumper right.

Can't find the article where he said that but I did find this.

if Mark Price can't fix it, no one can :oldlol:

but seriously, yea the release is late, but clearly it's not the finished product. Dude was shooting the ball from in front of his face before, he was going to have his shit sent back regardless. at least can actually aim at the rim now

[no pun intended]

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[redboy]

his elbow is a much bigger problem than shooting on the way down. it's like contorting or some next level shit :eek:

[russwest0]

dude why are they trying to rebuild his wack ass jumper just throw that shit away and start off with a whole new form and pound it into his muscle memory

literally any release is better than that shit

[Cactus-Sack]

Such a shame. The kid has great athleticism, defence, hustle, work-ethic and IQ... If only he had a guardable jumper. He'll be around for a while because of his other great attributes, hopefully he learns how to shoot at some point.

[Cocaine80s]

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[JimmyMcAdocious]

Any release is going to be slow if you hold the ball like that. Add on that he has some weird twisting release (that is still pronounced in that video)...

Youth coaches are balls. If I ever saw a kid with any potential shoot like that, you would have to work with him to fix it. MKG has been a known name since forever. It's a shame only now someone is making him fix it.

[poido123]

Still ugly, not as ugly though.

Like people have said, that release is so delayed and awkward.

[poido123]

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If you have a shooting style like that, you should not be allowed in the NBA.

How does the best league in the world have such bad shooters?

[SexSymbol]

looks pretty good, just a tad faster and it will be nice

[East_Stone_Ya]

not impressed

[BlazerRed]

LOL sick improvement MKG!

Who the **** is coaching this guy? :yaohappy:

[no pun intended]

LOL sick improvement MKG!

Who the **** is coaching this guy? :yaohappy:
Mark Price :facepalm

[To4]

God... that form... ugh!!! Kids in the park has better form than him..

[senelcoolidge]

George McGinnis used to shoot on the way down, but he was actually an excellent player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8tkDEUijz4

[BlazerRed]

George McGinnis used to shoot on the way down, but he was actually an excellent player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8tkDEUijz4
Old, doesn't count. Humans were inferior back then.

[Meticode]

He's played two seasons. Jumpers don't change by one or even two seasons when they're that horrifically bad. His shooting percentage in his second year improved by 2%. :confusedshrug:

The dude is still 20 years old.

[DukeDelonte13]

He's played two seasons. Jumpers don't change by one or even two seasons when they're that horrifically bad. His shooting percentage in his second year improved by 2%. :confusedshrug:

The dude is still 20 years old.


this.


He'll be fine. He's a bit of a disappointment at #2 in that draft, but he'll turn out to be a very solid player.

[Thorpesaurous]

I thought Mark Price was there. There was an article about The Spurs shooting coach I read a few weeks ago. A guy with very limited pro basketball pedigree. But he was a great high school player, and an excellent college player, mostly as a shooter. I forget where though.

Anyway, the article was interesting, because the Spurs think so highly of him that they aren't afraid of guys for whom the shot is a question, like Kwahi Leonard. They interviewed a bunch of people surrounding him. Apparently he went to the same high school as Steve Kerr. And Kerr used him as a coach most of his pro career. The Spurs talked about his work with Kerr when he was there. But also about the changes to Tony Parker's jumper, the effects in one season he had with Marco Bellinelli, who was already a pretty good shooter, and turning Danny Green from a league castoff to a starting asset on a title team.

It talked a good amount about decision making. Your shot looks better when you take ones your good at. Tony Parker for example rarely shoots threes still. Part of that is on the staff to put guys in good positions.

I coach at the middle school level, and a few years back had a kid who was very good, but the shot was just broken. The truth is is that at my level, it's hard to get the time to work on something so specific on one particular kid. But we were able to keep the gym half an hour after practice, and his parents helped by letting him stay, and the kid wanted to put in the work. I'm sure he worked on it himself tons too. But he had a similar problem where he was shooting from the wrong side of his head, not unlike this. I started with simple one handed shooting drills, because if you're shooting one handed you can't hold the ball like that. At the same time you can set up footwork, eye dominance, I threw everything I knew at this kid to try to get it better. He wound up a three year HS Varsity player, two year starter, and started at PG on a league title team as a senior. He was never a great shooter, but he was at least a threat.

I'm sure Mark Price knows more than me. And by all accounts MKG is a worker. I like the Iguadala comp as a goal. I hope he gets it fixed. I saw him a bunch of times in person in HS, and always liked him. But truthfully this never came up, because it always seemed he'd become a running PF. But he's just a few inches short for that. So this has to be done. I think they'll figure it out.

[9512]

From this angle it doesn't look that bad.

I agree that he releases the ball a split second too late. He loses a lot of power needed to propelled the ball to the rim because of that delay. He offsets (and hence wastes calories) by jumping that high and not making use of that momentum from the legs.

His follow through looks somewhat stiff and doesn't synchronize with the rest of the mechanics.

But the arch is good (not unlike Jamal Crawford's). His elevation is pretty good. But since the aforementioned flaws disrupts his shot then it looks the way to does.

I have a feeling mkg shoots like he is trying to look aesthetically pleasing or athletic. Like this outer body point of view of himself.

[To4]

He's played two seasons. Jumpers don't change by one or even two seasons when they're that horrifically bad. His shooting percentage in his second year improved by 2%. :confusedshrug:

The dude is still 20 years old.


Holy sht.. he still 20 years old?? :eek:

[9512]

He was born in 1993 he will be 21 sometime this calendar year

[HylianNightmare]

Love that form,fk the haters

[FireDavidKahn]

Worse than Marion's:facepalm

[SexSymbol]

It looks really good, just a tad bit too late, I don't know what video these idiots here are watching

[D-FENS]

I really thought with his work ethic, which was legendary at UK, and professional coaches working with him everyday, his jumper would have improved by leaps and bounds by 2014.

It looks as bad as ever in these videos. I'm not sure if it's fixable at this point. He just has no clue how to shoot.

He's still very young. He's not even 20 and should be entering his senior year of college.

He will never be an amazing shooter, but given time he will improve to where he isn't a liability

[Kiddlovesnets]

Is he considered a bust?

[senelcoolidge]

Is he considered a bust?

Not yet, but I think he will be considered a big disappointment for being a #2 pick. I don't think he will ever live up to that. He's still young, but he could be out of the league before he hits 30..that's not a surprise. NBA careers are short.

[rhowen4]

his feet hitting the floor... really loud for some reason

[rufuspaul]

Mark Price said recently that at this stage he's only working on balance and footwork. It's gonna be a long, slow process and one that I think makes one worse before you get better, similar to changing your golf swing.

The thing I don't understand is why didn't the coaches he had as a kid recognize these flaws and fix them before they became ingrained?