Will the Spurs get favored again??

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Will the Spurs get favored again in an epic fashion like last year in the finals?? seems like everyone and their momma wants Duncan to get another ring.
remember last year the Spurs shot 50 more FT than the Heat and the Heat, a team with attacking players like Dwayne Wade and LeBron James, shot the fewest FT-Attempts of ANY TEAM in a 7 game series in the HISTORY of the NBA.
yes, the Miami Heat that are build to attack the rim and have the best finisher from the perimeter in absketball history somehow shot an alltime low FTA:biggums:
Thoughts??:coleman:

[IllegalD]

Will the Spurs get favored again in an epic fashion like last year in the finals?? seems like everyone and their momma wants Duncan to get another ring.
remember last year the Spurs shot 50 more FT than the Heat and the Heat, a team with attacking players like Dwayne Wade and LeBron James, shot the fewest FT-Attempts of ANY TEAM in a 7 game series in the HISTORY of the NBA.
yes, the Miami Heat that are build to attack the rim and have the best finisher from the perimeter in absketball history somehow shot an alltime low FTA:biggums:
Thoughts??:coleman:

Is this true?

Link with proof?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Is this true?

Link with proof?
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/basketball/dave-george-this-seasons-miami-heat-were-great-but/nYScp/

4. In all of NBA playoff history, not just the Finals, no team has ever attempted fewer free throws in a seven-game series than Miami

[Purch]

Well remember last year the Spurs were 30th in the league in fouls committed, and this season they're 29th. A big thing about them is that they choose as a team philosphy to not play physical, so they don't draw fouls. Sometimes that's why they'll have stretches where their defense just seems extremely soft (like against Westbrook). But they've made the decision that keeping their fouls at a minimum is best for their defense. Hense why they've been at the bottom in fouls committed the past 2 seaaons

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Well remember last year the Spurs were 30th in the league in fouls committed, and this season they're 29th. A big thing about them is that they choose as a team philosphy to not play physical, so they don't draw fouls. Sometimes that's why they'll have stretches where their defense just seems extremely soft (like against Westbrook). But they've made the decision that keeping their fouls at a minimum is best for their defense. Hense why they've been at the bottom in fouls committed the past 2 seaaons
so you tell me LeBron and Wade blew all those layups because the Spurs were not physical at all?? or Bosh NEVEr attacked the rim, even less than normally because they were not physical??
Complete Bullcrap, they fouled the shit out of Heat players and just got away with it because, well, they are the beloved Spurs:coleman:

[Purch]

so you tell me LeBron and Wade blew all those layups because the Spurs were not physical at all?? or Bosh NEVEr attacked the rim, even less than normally because they were not physical??
Complete Bullcrap, they fouled the shit out of Heat players and just got away with it because, well, they are the beloved Spurs:coleman:
I'm saying that the spurs who are last in the league in not fouling, aren't going to suddenly start fouling In a finals series. It's not like Indy playing physical inside the whole year, than Hibbert suddenly getting support from the verticality rule. The Spurs have been a top 3 defense both this season and last season because they play positional defense rather than Physical defense, and they make it a mission not to foul.

[Purch]

O yea and I don't get what you're talking about with Missed layups. The spurs are a top 3 defense and they don't foul, so doesn't logic say that they've learned to defend the rim without fouling? If they fouled everytime someone drove, they wouldn't be a top 3 defensive team.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

O yea and I don't get what you're talking about with Missed layups. The spurs are a top 3 defense and they don't foul, so doesn't logic say that they've learned to defend the rim without fouling? If they fouled everytime someone drove, they wouldn't be a top 3 defensive team.
thats just bullshit.
they may not foul like other teams but foul so few times that the opponent shoots an all time low FTA?? especially with attacking players like Wade and James??
yeah right, you are totally unbiased and there has never been favoring in the NBA:rolleyes: :facepalm

[Purch]

thats just bullshit.
they may not foul like other teams but foul so few times that the opponent shoots an all time low FTA?? especially with attacking players like Wade and James??
yeah right, you are totally unbiased and there has never been favoring in the NBA:rolleyes: :facepalm
Pull up a stat for me will you. Out of all the teams to have played in the nba finals, how many of them were last in the league in committing fouls?
I'm serious go to basketball reference and look it up, because I think you'll find that what you think is favoritism, actually is pretty easy to explain statistically.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Pull up a stat for me will you. Out of all the teams to have played in the nba finals, how many of them were last in the league in committing fouls?
I'm serious go to basketball reference and look it up, because I think you'll find that what you think is favoritism, actually is pretty easy to explain statistically.
spin it how you want it.
an old ass unathletic Spurs team shot 50 more FTa than an athletic Heat team that shot an alltime low FTA.
no need to look anything up:coleman:

[robert_shaww]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Manu-Ginobili-Turns-the-ball-over.jpg

:rolleyes:

[DaSeba5]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Manu-Ginobili-Turns-the-ball-over.jpg

:rolleyes:

I still remember him traveling anyways

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I still remember him traveling anyways
lol one no call on a traveling Flopnobili who threw it away like a hot potato anyway in these games changes nothing

[FLDFSU]

Pull up a stat for me will you. Out of all the teams to have played in the nba finals, how many of them were last in the league in committing fouls?
I'm serious go to basketball reference and look it up, because I think you'll find that what you think is favoritism, actually is pretty easy to explain statistically.

The problem with this is that you don't have to limit it to just the Finals, but any 7 game series. That state is for any series.

[Purch]

spin it how you want it.
an old ass unathletic Spurs team shot 50 more FTa than an athletic Heat team that shot an alltime low FTA.
no need to look anything up:coleman:
Spin it? I'm presenting the foul statistics. It's up to you to present evidence that the Spurs suddenly fouled more than they did throughout the whole season.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Spin it? I'm presenting the foul statistics. It's up to you to present evidence that the Spurs suddenly fouled more than they did throughout the whole season.
there has never been a 7 game series were a team shot less FTA than the 2013 Miami Heat vs Spurs.
NOT ONCE.
and its not like the refs just let everything go because the Spurs shot 50 FTa more.
you the one trying to spin this around however you can.
i wont look it up but im hella sure Spurs opponents ion the rounds before shot more FTA.
and if not its still scandalous because the Spurs played shit teams until they played the Heat

[FLDFSU]

Spin it? I'm presenting the foul statistics. It's up to you to present evidence that the Spurs suddenly fouled more than they did throughout the whole season.

Once again. You are incorrectly limiting the stats when it doesn't call for such restrictions.

How about we take the Spurs per game fouls against the Heat and compare to their other per game fouls against other teams they played in the playoffs. That should give us a good idea if the Heat got shafted.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Once again. You are incorrectly limiting the stats when it doesn't call for such restrictions.

How about we take the Spurs per game fouls against the Heat and compare to their other per game fouls against other teams they played in the playoffs. That should give us a good idea if the Heat got shafted.
even that doesnt give an idea.
they played the trashy Grizz in the WCF, i doubt they had to foul much in all these blowouts against that pathetic team

[D-FENS]

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/basketball/dave-george-this-seasons-miami-heat-were-great-but/nYScp/

4. In all of NBA playoff history, not just the Finals, no team has ever attempted fewer free throws in a seven-game series than Miami

[FLDFSU]

:rockon:
there has never been a 7 game series were a team shot less FTA than the 2013 Miami Heat vs Spurs.
NOT ONCE.
and its not like the refs just let everything go because the Spurs shot 50 FTa more.
you the one trying to spin this around however you can.
i wont look it up but im hella sure Spurs opponents ion the rounds before shot more FTA.
and if not its still scandalous because the Spurs played shit teams until they played the Heat

The funny thing is the Heat didn't shoot much more free throws against the Pacers the round before. Either the Heat with James and James suddenly change their style or they were getting shafted throughout the playoffs

[Marlo_Stanfield]

:rockon:

The funny thing is the Heat didn't shoot much more free throws against the Pacers the round before. Either the Heat with James and James suddenly change their style or they were getting shafted throughout the playoffs
lol ECF was even more rigged.
Heat constantly attacked Hibbert and he got 10+ verticality calls each game. that was really disgusting. made hibbert look way better than he is

[Real14]

tha spurs won tha finals last year?:biggums:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I still vividly remember the horrendous officiating in the 3rd quarter of game 6. The Spurs got so many phantom fouls in their favor and the Heat couldn't buy a call. And this was at their own home court :biggums:

[robert_shaww]

Did you not notice the Spurs leaving LeBron and Wade open?
There were no driving lanes for them to get to the line. Read Zach Lowe's article on the series, then come back and post

THREAD

[Real14]

I still vividly remember the horrendous officiating in the 3rd quarter of game 6. The Spurs got so many phantom fouls in their favor and the Heat couldn't buy a call. And this was at their own home court :biggums:
I have four wordz for you..... POPAVICH, BOSH, DUNCAN, AND ALLEN. Can you figure out this puzzle??:confusedshrug:

[pegasus]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Manu-Ginobili-Turns-the-ball-over.jpg

:rolleyes:

That's Miami defense right there. Slapping, pushing and shoving, and getting away with it. And you are not allowed to do 1/10th of that to them.

[huskerdu]

Miami barely attacked the rim in that series, LeBron and Wade for content taking 18 foot jumpers all day.

[plowking]

I still vividly remember the horrendous officiating in the 3rd quarter of game 6. The Spurs got so many phantom fouls in their favor and the Heat couldn't buy a call. And this was at their own home court :biggums:

That is literally the only game I was pissed about in terms of officiating, and it was only a few calls.

[plowking]

That's Miami defense right there. Slapping, pushing and shoving, and getting away with it. And you are not allowed to do 1/10th of that to them.

Didn't foul him at all, but Ginobili did travel.

[Real14]

That is literally the only game I was pissed about in terms of officiating, and it was only a few calls.
who won dummy?:coleman:

[plowking]

who won dummy?:coleman:

The Heat did. What is your point?

I never said anyone got favorable reffing, just that I was upset at a few calls in one of the games, especially in a big game.

[Real14]

The Heat did. What is your point?

I never said anyone got favorable reffing, just that I was upset at a few calls in one of the games, especially in a big game.
You shouldn't be complaining:no:

[ArbitraryWater]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Manu-Ginobili-Turns-the-ball-over.jpg

:rolleyes:

Traveled before though

[TMT]

People claiming the Spurs were favored last year, this argument makes zero sense. Why would the league want San Antonio to win?

[ArbitraryWater]

People claiming the Spurs were favored last year, this argument makes zero sense. Why would the league want San Antonio to win?

Because the Euro Spurs are one of the most popular teams GLOBALLY? They're very known internationally... I got some friends here who don't much watch ball, but they're like "Yeah I guess I'm a Spurs fan, keeping it classic..."

Stop with the "why why why" talk, it's ignorant.

Be honest, you saw Game 6, I was furious over the calls the Spurs got throughout the Game... felt like they wanted to see Duncan ride off into the sunset with a 5th title.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

People claiming the Spurs were favored last year, this argument makes zero sense. Why would the league want San Antonio to win?

Same reason they gifted the Spurs a trip to the finals in 2007.

[TMT]

Because the Euro Spurs are one of the most popular teams GLOBALLY? They're very known internationally... I got some friends here who don't much watch ball, but they're like "Yeah I guess I'm a Spurs fan, keeping it classic..."

Stop with the "why why why" talk, it's ignorant.

Be honest, you saw Game 6, I was furious over the calls the Spurs got throughout the Game... felt like they wanted to see Duncan ride off into the sunset with a 5th title.

Buddy, guys like Kobe and Lebron are more globally renowned than the entire Spurs team will ever be. :oldlol: Stop bitching because deep down you know your team played like shit more than the refs had an effect on the Finals.

Refs favoring small markets. :lol

[AnaheimLakers24]

cheat stacked. mega ultra colossal failure if they dont sweep. biggest losers of all time in most poeples opinion

[Uncle Drew]

so you tell me LeBron and Wade blew all those layups because the Spurs were not physical at all?? or Bosh NEVEr attacked the rim, even less than normally because they were not physical??
Complete Bullcrap, they fouled the shit out of Heat players and just got away with it because, well, they are the beloved Spurs:coleman:
For example?

[TimmyDuncan]

Spurs game plan was to let Lebron and Wade shoot uncontested Jumpshot :lol
Why would they get FT on uncontested Jumpshot???

[navy]

Refs favoring small markets. :lol
Who started this small markets get the shaft nonsense? Miami is not a large market, and the Knicks the largest market havent been favored in decades.

[hiphopfan777]

You mean how ginobili was wacked by ray allen game six over time and no freethrows or when bosh fouls danny greens three and no freethrows.

[navy]

You mean how ginobili was wacked by ray allen
Wacked? Niqqa was barely touched. He traveled then threw the ball away.

Danny Green was fouled . Clean block up top though.

[aj1987]

Spin it? I'm presenting the foul statistics. It's up to you to present evidence that the Spurs suddenly fouled more than they did throughout the whole season.
First Round (Lakers) - 18.5 FTA/G
Semis (Warriors) - 21.8 FTA/G
WCF (Grizzlies) - 22 FTA/G
Finals (Heat) - 16.8 FTA/G

[KirbyPls]

First Round (Lakers) - 18.5 FTA/G
Semis (Warriors) - 21.8 FTA/G
WCF (Grizzlies) - 22 FTA/G
Finals (Heat) - 16.8 FTA/G

/thread

[secund2nun]

I still vividly remember the horrendous officiating in the 3rd quarter of game 6. The Spurs got so many phantom fouls in their favor and the Heat couldn't buy a call. And this was at their own home court :biggums:

It was one of the biggest rig jobs in NBA history...and Miami STILL WON!

All hail Lebron! Miami better be prepared to beat the Spurs and Refs again.

[riseagainst]

Marlo is so delusional.