ESPN: If you don't like Lebron you're probably a white guy

[davehos]

In depth ESPN reporting here. :banghead:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/page/mindoffan/how-fans-see-lebron-james

[lilteapot]

why is ESPN so terrible

[JohnFreeman]

Why does race have to come into it? Honestly.

[ILLsmak]

lol.

yea that's bad.

-Smak

[Dresta]

I like Lebron. I despise ESPN's coverage of Lebron (and ESPN in general), and this idiotic article is a rather pointed example of why that is.

[Paul George 24]

why I need to like LeBron :confusedshrug:

[UK2K]

Stand up white people! Pretend to be super offended and complain about racism and force ESPN to hire more hot white chicks to appease the masses!

Nah... ive got to much to worry about. Besides, its probably a joke who cares?

[raprap]

Kenneth griffin was right. :lol

[Rose'sACL]

lol

[Pushxx]

Lol that article is a pile of horseshit.

[NustABut]

Reaching for stories wow :facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

im white as fukk tho:coleman:

[dynasty1978]

How about this gem of an article from Henry Abbott after the decision?

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19964/black-people-arent-livid-at-lebron-james

A new low in sports media :facepalm

[Derka]

*yawn* ESPN doing what ESPN do.

[GimmeThat]

He directed his distaste for his experience in the league as well as the ownership at Cavaliers out in front of the whole world.

And while he can argue that if you don't like it, just don't watch it.

I understand that people are offended by it.


I don't think the title should read
"If you don't like Lebron you're probably a white guy"

it should read
"If you don't like Lebron, you probably don't know what it takes to make it in America"

which you know, isn't just some show on HBO, nor a reality TV show.

Yes, I get it, most people in America who has made it has been predominantly white because of its history.


But you know

If you feel like I'm directing my distaste for the reality that many people are simply just weak and think that I have an elitist attitude.

If you don't like it, you don't have to read it.

[Marchesk]

Silver should ban ESPN from the NBA for racism. It has no place in today's society. Have them cover Euroleague instead.

[Dresta]

How about this gem of an article from Henry Abbott after the decision?

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19964/black-people-arent-livid-at-lebron-james

A new low in sports media :facepalm
:biggums:

jesus christ...

[WadeStan]

Most of my uncles and cousins can't stand LBJ and I'm pretty sure they're black.

Many of my sports fan friends can't stand LBJ and I'm pretty sure they're black too.

I do agree with the general principle that white people respond differently to black people asserting themselves but it's also very possible in this instance that they think what LBJ did violated unwritten sports code. You stick with your team and if you leave them, you certainly don't team up with another superstar and a perennial all-star and do so on TV.

All that said,

Heat in 6!

[Jailblazers7]

My one friend has a theory that if you like college basketball more than the NBA then there is like an 80% chance that you're racist. Cracks me up to see him try to convince people of it.

[el gringos]

That's already proven to work. Look at Obama. Media created him and used "if you don't like him you are racist".

[Real14]

A lot of people at ESPN are white so I know this iz absolutely a damn lie:coleman:

[aboss4real24]

Its true

alot of white guys r mad because he made more money at 17 then they did in there whole life

n hes Black...

[UK2K]

"If white people..."

Yet here it is, an article completely separating white people and analyzing their likes and dislikes, and shockingly, nobody cares.

You dont see any white people boycotting, no white people angered or up in arms...

Because white people have more important things to worry about, like jobs, and bills, and children. If this article was about blacks instead of whites, there would be uproar! Imagine if Jay Z said he didnt want white people at BKLYN games. Would anybody care? Would any whites be offended? I wouldnt, my life wouldnt change one bit.

And so we see, the double standard is alive and well.

[GimmeThat]

Most of my uncles and cousins can't stand LBJ and I'm pretty sure they're black.

Many of my sports fan friends can't stand LBJ and I'm pretty sure they're black too.

I do agree with the general principle that white people respond differently to black people asserting themselves but it's also very possible in this instance that they think what LBJ did violated unwritten sports code. You stick with your team and if you leave them, you certainly don't team up with another superstar and a perennial all-star and do so on TV.

All that said,

Heat in 6!

He was drafted by the Cavs, who also happened to be his hometown. Had it not be his hometown, it would be a different story. People would actually realize that hey, he got drafted into a franchise he devoted 7 years to and decided to leave.

What you are talking about maybe applies to college sports, but not in the professional league.

Colleges are probably also more accomadating to their players than professional sports. Plus, I don't think college players are really ever truly under the pressue of win a banner or bust, besides that of the fab five maybe, which some may argue they asked for that attention themselves, same way the Heat did.

[GimmeThat]

"If white people..."

Yet here it is, an article completely separating white people and analyzing their likes and dislikes, and shockingly, nobody cares.

You dont see any white people boycotting, no white people angered or up in arms...

Because white people have more important things to worry about, like jobs, and bills, and children. If this article was about blacks instead of whites, there would be uproar! Imagine if Jay Z said he didnt want white people at BKLYN games. Would anybody care? Would any whites be offended? I wouldnt, my life wouldnt change one bit.

And so we see, the double standard is alive and well.


White people just burn jerseys and let their passive-aggressive tactic rages on!

[Meticode]

I read the whole article and I can't believe ESPN posted it. I replied in the comments below with this reply...


Wow, what a garbage of an article. The Clippers are trying to get past race-related issues and ESPN posts this horrific article reaching for stories? Ethan Sherwood Strauss congratulations of writing utter crap.

[lilgodfather1]

White people should be offended. We should sue ESPN, and boycott their shitty sports coverage.

No seriously i'm not offended, i am not a giant ***** like all of those pc people out there. Who cares what some moron at a gossip rag writes.

[AnaheimLakers24]

crackas

[Dresta]

Its true

alot of white guys r mad because he made more money at 17 then they did in there whole life

n hes Black...

If that were true then 90% of white guys would despise 100% of the black guys in the NBA, not just Lebron, who all earn more money than them, despite being black.

[UK2K]

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100803022556/southpark/images/1/1d/SPFW17.jpg

[davehos]

White people should be offended. We should sue ESPN, and boycott their shitty sports coverage.

... but ... but ... I want to watch the Finals. :(

I think it's decided. White people like TNT.

/shaqtin a fool

[russwest0]

Lmao, ESPN reports such bullshit

[Smook A.]

http://i.imgur.com/tUlovyH.jpg

[stallionaire]

How about this gem of an article from Henry Abbott after the decision?

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19964/black-people-arent-livid-at-lebron-james

A new low in sports media :facepalm

a new low?

it's a fact that mostly white dudes hate on lebron. I see it all the time.

"he's so arrogant, no humility" is all I hear about lebron from jealous white guys

mostly minorities like LeBron

these are facts

white guys are jealous of LeBron james as a human being. It's funny to watch.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

a new low?

it's a fact that mostly white dudes hate on lebron. I see it all the time.

"he's so arrogant, no humility" is all I hear about lebron from jealous white guys

mostly minorities like LeBron

these are facts

white guys are jealous of LeBron james as a human being. It's funny to watch.

Most "white guys" loved MJ. Were they just subconsciously jealous?

[Flash31]

My one friend has a theory that if you like college basketball more than the NBA then there is like an 80% chance that you're racist. Cracks me up to see him try to convince people of it.


It's somewhat true though.
They call college team ball,blue collar,REAL BALL and the NBA which is predominantly black thug ball.

You'd think the people who love college type ball--horrible shot selection,no sense of cohesiveness,chuckers would love DET,Mil,Hou,NYK
or the Team Ball aspect,teamwork,Playing within a team,Fundamentals-----
there would be a lot of Spurs,Heat fans but the Spurs are basically nonexistent in big popularity and are a ratings downer while the Heat is big bc of Big 3,and Winning


If you really think about it,The Spurs should be one of the most popular teams.
They embody teamwork and unselfishness but they're not.

[NumberSix]

My one friend has a theory that if you like college basketball more than the NBA then there is like an 80% chance that you're racist. Cracks me up to see him try to convince people of it.
That or, you know.... You live in a place with a college team and no pro team.

[Flash31]

ESPN is somewhat right.

But to add to it
If you don't like LeBron you're most likely easily manipulated by the media's feelings towards a player or team,a Cavaliers Fan,a Lakers Fan,A Kobe Stan,A Celtics Fan,A Pierce/KG Fan,A Bulls Fan,An Insecure Jordan Stan,AN OKC Fan,A NYK Fan,A Mavs Fan,A Spurs Fan,A Pacers Fan.


Most of the Hate came from the decision and IT CLEARlY WAsN'T bc he Left Cle or Joined Miami or Joined with other stars.
It was Bc He Didn't Choose YOUR Team or the one you wouldn't mind.It wad bc Miami is Successful and your team is not bc of him.


The media kept hyping LJ to NY,LA,Chi,Dal but never Miami.
They hyped him joining up with the all stars there but he didnt go there.
The hate came bc he went somewhere where nobody expected or wanted and started winning there.


And well the Media as a whole is a predominantly LA,NY,Chi,Bos bias and
they feel like he spurned them and betrayed them by not going there.
It's the Reason Dwight is HATED bc the media is mostly Laker Nation.

LJ keeps beating the media and majority favs(NYK,Chi,Bos) and is better than LA so the Heat hate Increases.

These same fans hating on LJ that aren't Cle fans
WANTED LeBron on their Team with other all stars but bc he didnt go there he's all of a sudden a cheat,coward,easy way out,quitter and every other name people can bring up on him and the Heat.

[Flash31]

I've never seen anybody call NBA basketball "black thug ball" except you. You jackass.


I never called it black thug ball you fn moron.
Ive heard people in the media call it that or in reality as to why they don't like the NBA.

[NumberSix]

Its true

alot of white guys r mad because he made more money at 17 then they did in there whole life

n hes Black...

Only black people can even think like this. The thing that most minorities simply can't relate to is that to the majority (whites) these sorts of things are not very relevant to their lives.

Most white people spend about as much time thinking about race as capable people spend thinking about wheelchair ramps or as much as normal people think about trans people. The majority is vastly more relevant to the minority than the minority is to the majority.

White people don't spend as much time thinking about black people as you think.

[outbreak]

Espn has form, remeber a ***** in the armour?

[NumberSix]

Espn has form, remeber a ***** in the armour?
***** in the armour is a legit phrase.

[KyleKong]

Don't see what people are getting upset at ESPN over.

They just took the poll, and people voted.

[russwest0]

:facepalm

KyleKong is one of "those guys" who just doesn't get "it."

[kennethgriffin]

remember when i made that thread called "white people like kobe, black people like lebron"

































well? you still think i'm crazy?

[zoom17]

remember when i made that thread called "white people like kobe, black people like lebron"

































well? you still think i'm crazy?



Yes

[russwest0]

remember when i made that thread called "white people like kobe, black people like lebron"

well? you still think i'm crazy?


:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

what happened to that thread? mods delete it?

[Solefade]

and if you like lebron you're probably black? :oldlol:

[PJR]

Now I know sports fans in general aren't typically rational with their thoughts, but can someone who is avid hater of LeBron tell me what exactly is their reason to hate him for?

Like, unless you're a Cleveland Cavalier fan, what are your reasons for hating LeBron?

Now, I can understand kind of disliking of how he approached his 2010 free agency. Kind of .....He definitely attention whore'd that process, and milked it for all it was worth. From the flirtation with New York during his last couple years in Cleveland, and that 60 minute interview, and then of course everything leading up to "The Decision", which ultimately led him to Miami.

I know a lot of the Jordan fanatics, who despise that comparison in particular and what not, but that's strictly the media's doing. Can't fault him for that.

And in terms of his play, he plays as unselfish of a brand of basketball as you can ask for someone with his talent level(some argue that he's TOO unselfish at times), and looks to do whatever he can to maximize his teammates on the court.

He takes all criticism on the chin, and has NEVER publically thrown a coach or teammate under the Bus. Never. And there was certainly opportunity to do so in certain instances.

And from a personable standpoint, by all accounts, he appears to be a good guy on the surface. His teammates rave about him constantly. He's also as transparent of athlete that we have today, and isn't afraid to attach his name to certain social issues.

So what exactly is it? Is it the perceived arrogance? The oversaturation in media coverage (not really his fault)? :confusedshrug:

I just don't get it.

[Adam Silver]

And if you are Jewish and work in the NBA, you really love LeBron.

[SCdac]

Eh, says more about the enigmatic Michael Jordan – who was wildly popular amongst both whites and blacks – than it does about Lebron, imo. Using Jordan as the standard, essentially, isn't fair to either the rest of the players in the NBA or those taking part in the polls. Nobody is going to catch Jordan, and there's a multitude of factors in play. "The decision" probably came across to society as tacky and narcissistic... reasonably so, imo.

[NumberSix]

Now I know sports fans in general aren't typically rational with their thoughts, but can someone who is avid hater of LeBron tell me what exactly is their reason to hate him for?

Like, unless you're a Cleveland Cavalier fan, what are your reasons for hating LeBron?

Now, I can understand kind of disliking of how he approached his 2010 free agency. Kind of .....He definitely attention whore'd that process, and milked it for all it was worth. From the flirtation with New York during his last couple years in Cleveland, and that 60 minute interview, and then of course everything leading up to "The Decision", which ultimately led him to Miami.

I know a lot of the Jordan fanatics, who despise that comparison in particular and what not, but that's strictly the media's doing. Can't fault him for that.

And in terms of his play, he plays as unselfish of a brand of basketball as you can ask for someone with his talent level(some argue that he's TOO unselfish at times), and looks to do whatever he can to maximize his teammates on the court.

He takes all criticism on the chin, and has NEVER publically thrown a coach or teammate under the Bus. Never. And there was certainly opportunity to do so in certain instances.

And from a personable standpoint, by all accounts, he appears to be a good guy on the surface. His teammates rave about him constantly. He's also as transparent of athlete that we have today, and isn't afraid to attach his name to certain social issues.

So what exactly is it? Is it the perceived arrogance? The oversaturation in media coverage (not really his fault)? :confusedshrug:

I just don't get it.
This is a great point. Unlike other superstars who CONSTANTLY shift blame and point fingers publicly at everyone else in the organization.

[FireDavidKahn]

ESPN just proved that black people are the most bandwagon fans.:lol

[Swaggin916]

ESPN just proved that black people are the most bandwagon fans.:lol

Black Americans = Most bandwagon people in general. Quick to come, quick to go... more short sighted and less likely to stick it out in the long run. That's a mentality representative of a culture though not a skin color. Most of these people who represent the numbers are younger also and that's a mentality of a younger person... which is most of the NBA's audience.

Just my observations.

[Solefade]

Now I know sports fans in general aren't typically rational with their thoughts, but can someone who is avid hater of LeBron tell me what exactly is their reason to hate him for?

Like, unless you're a Cleveland Cavalier fan, what are your reasons for hating LeBron?

Now, I can understand kind of disliking of how he approached his 2010 free agency. Kind of .....He definitely attention whore'd that process, and milked it for all it was worth. From the flirtation with New York during his last couple years in Cleveland, and that 60 minute interview, and then of course everything leading up to "The Decision", which ultimately led him to Miami.

I know a lot of the Jordan fanatics, who despise that comparison in particular and what not, but that's strictly the media's doing. Can't fault him for that.

And in terms of his play, he plays as unselfish of a brand of basketball as you can ask for someone with his talent level(some argue that he's TOO unselfish at times), and looks to do whatever he can to maximize his teammates on the court.

He takes all criticism on the chin, and has NEVER publically thrown a coach or teammate under the Bus. Never. And there was certainly opportunity to do so in certain instances.

And from a personable standpoint, by all accounts, he appears to be a good guy on the surface. His teammates rave about him constantly. He's also as transparent of athlete that we have today, and isn't afraid to attach his name to certain social issues.

So what exactly is it? Is it the perceived arrogance? The oversaturation in media coverage (not really his fault)? :confusedshrug:

I just don't get it.

great post.


inb4 colllusion/getting carried by wade/bosh/allen

[secund2nun]

Don't see what people are getting upset at ESPN over.

They just took the poll, and people voted.

Some people just hate the facts.

[secund2nun]

Now I know sports fans in general aren't typically rational with their thoughts, but can someone who is avid hater of LeBron tell me what exactly is their reason to hate him for?

Like, unless you're a Cleveland Cavalier fan, what are your reasons for hating LeBron?

Now, I can understand kind of disliking of how he approached his 2010 free agency. Kind of .....He definitely attention whore'd that process, and milked it for all it was worth. From the flirtation with New York during his last couple years in Cleveland, and that 60 minute interview, and then of course everything leading up to "The Decision", which ultimately led him to Miami.

I know a lot of the Jordan fanatics, who despise that comparison in particular and what not, but that's strictly the media's doing. Can't fault him for that.

And in terms of his play, he plays as unselfish of a brand of basketball as you can ask for someone with his talent level(some argue that he's TOO unselfish at times), and looks to do whatever he can to maximize his teammates on the court.

He takes all criticism on the chin, and has NEVER publically thrown a coach or teammate under the Bus. Never. And there was certainly opportunity to do so in certain instances.

And from a personable standpoint, by all accounts, he appears to be a good guy on the surface. His teammates rave about him constantly. He's also as transparent of athlete that we have today, and isn't afraid to attach his name to certain social issues.

So what exactly is it? Is it the perceived arrogance? The oversaturation in media coverage (not really his fault)? :confusedshrug:

I just don't get it.

People are sheeple that's why. They are told to hate Lebron by the media so that's exactly what they do. Also most of the people who hate Lebron love players that are assholes and most wanted Lebron on their team.

[Just2McFly]

Hey guys, did you know that some of the most prominent posters here are black?? Think about that for a second. I'm not B-low or Gobb...some of this shit isnt going to slide for much longer