Mia with Prime Allen or SA with Prime Duncan.

[Suguru101]

If in this year's Finals the Heat had a 26 year old Allen instead of the 37/38 year old one and the Spurs had a 26 year old Duncan (2003 MVP/FMVP) instead of the 38 year old one, which team comes out on top?

[Boston C's]

If in this year's Finals the Heat had a 26 year old Allen instead of the 37/38 year old one and the Spurs had a 26 year old Duncan (2003 MVP/FMVP) instead of the 38 year old one, which team comes out on top?

Prime Ray Allen wouldn't fit on that team or make a difference as like a prime tim duncan...prime duncan is clearly the superior player but it helps even more that he would be utilized much more then a prime ray allen...prime ray allen was a do it all kind of guy who could score in a variety of ways and handle the rock but when you have lebron there all ray would need to do is shoot...it would help the heat to have a prime ray allen but with lebron and wade there as well as bosh it doesn't seem like theres enough touches to go around for ray to make a tremendous impact

put prime ray on san antonio and you have a different story

[JimmyMcAdocious]

If you see both teams to be about the same level (which I think is fair based on the Finals last season)...

Miami has trouble guarding Hibbert when he plays at his high level. 2003 Duncan is one of the alltime great NBA seasons. Peak Allen is very good, but he wasn't even a superstar.

Wade and Allen play the same position.

So... Spurs.

[Droid101]

There's only one ball. Prime Ray wanted the ball in his hands, and LeBron is better with the ball in his hands.

Duncan all the way.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Hmm.... LeBron with prime Allen, and then having current Wade coming off the bench would be insane

[Uncle Drew]

37 y/o Duncan shat over the Heat/Bosh last year, let alone prime Timmy.

[T_L_P]

With peak Duncan they could probably beat the Heat playing their early 2000s bogged down offense.

Now imagine what they'd do with all that ball movement from the double teams. :eek:

[inclinerator]

pop would have to change coaching style completely, i dont think u would have that amazing ball movement but rather give it to tim duncan like the early decades of the 2000s

[HurricaneKid]

37 year old Duncan G7 - 25 points IN THE FIRST HALF

2003 TD against Bosh? It would look like Shaq playing 4th graders down at the Y.

Prime Rayray would be great and I salivate at the prospect. But Miami would have no answers for 26 yr old Duncan. NONE.

[SCdac]

Duncan and the Spurs for sure.

Duncan would barely come off the court. Played 44-46 minutes in games routinely... 46 minutes of Duncan's two-way impact is invaluable.

TD would probably notch MVP and Finals MVP if he was in his absolute prime right now.

Spurs offense would be slower, however, more "4 down" like there used to be. Utilizing Duncan's excellent court vision, patience, passing, and elite scoring.

[SCdac]

Probably? Who else would come close on the Spurs?

I meant "probably win MVP". I mean it's between him, Durant, and Lebron...

[mentallooser]

I think people must forget just how great Duncan was in his prime. He would do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. Heat would be playing HackaTim and that would be all they could do. Why don't we give prime Robinson instead of Duncan at all while we're at it. He would rip the entire Heat apart.

[T_L_P]

I meant "probably win MVP". I mean it's between him, Durant, and Lebron...

Yeah, misread your post. I agree. :cheers:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Prime Duncan >>> Prime Allen.

[inclinerator]

some of ya'll are overestimating tim duncan
he was in his prime during bran's first finals and didnt dominate the cavs
26 and 31 isnt that big of a difference

[stephanieg]

Young Ray Ray would be redundant with Wade/LeBron. Back in the day he would handle the rock and jam on people.

[T_L_P]

I think people must forget just how great Duncan was in his prime. He would do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. Heat would be playing HackaTim and that would be all they could do. Why don't we give prime Robinson instead of Duncan at all while we're at it. He would rip the entire Heat apart.

Duncan had to play some pretty harsh frontlines in '03 (Kenyon Martin may be one of the most underrated bigs ever), but I think the Heat frontline kind of resembles the Mavs' one when Dirk was playing. And Duncan averaged 35/18/6 in the three games he played against them.

[T_L_P]

some of ya'll are overestimating tim duncan
he was in his prime during bran's first finals and didnt dominate the cavs
26 and 31 isnt that big of a difference

He was in the last or second last year of his prime, and he had a pretty bad shooting series. But that series was won with his and Bowen's defense.

Shaq at 31: 21 / 13 / 3 / 3
Shaq at 27: 31 / 16 / 3 / 2

Big difference.

[SCdac]

some of ya'll are overestimating tim duncan
he was in his prime during bran's first finals and didnt dominate the cavs
26 and 31 isnt that big of a difference

Yes, it is, especially when you have the mileage he has, nagging injuries popping up, and shoulder as much of a load on both ends of the court as Duncan did. He came into the league a polished product after 4 years of college and yeah age 31 to age 38 was not his physical prime. Even still, Duncan dropped 27 ppg / 14 rpg / 4 bpg on the Phoenix Suns in 2007 second round and was still an MVP type player. Drop 24-26 year old Duncan in today's league and he'd wreck.

[scm5]

TD in his prime would shit all over the Heat.

Defensively, he would make life really hard for Wade and Lebron. Not as many open looks at the rim.

[rzp]

He was in the last or second last year of his prime, and he had a pretty bad shooting series. But that series was won with his and Bowen's defense.

Shaq at 31: 21 / 13 / 3 / 3
Shaq at 27: 31 / 16 / 3 / 2

Big difference.

Not really a good comparison, Shaq at 31 was sharing the ball with the fab 4, with Kobe at his highest chucking lvl ever.

if im not mistaken his numbers at 32 are even better (1st season as a Heat)

[Mass Debator]

Better question is if both teams' individual players were in their primes...

[Real14]

:biggums:

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Prime Allen>>>>Current Wade

So Bran can rest easy knowing that the 2nd option in Prime Ray Ray can bail his ass out all game long.