How can some NBA players have such terrible shooting form?

[Random_Guy]

They may be accurate yes, but youd think that having professional trainers theyd eventually get a at least decent jump shot.

[ZenMaster]

Because some guys just can't shoot.

[Cocaine80s]

I read an article about Austin Rivers jump shot. And how Doc told him to just stick with it if thats whats comfortable.

his aint terrible but his elbow goes out far

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Austin-Rivers.png

[Random_Guy]

I read an article about Austin Rivers jump shot. And how Doc told him to just stick with it if thats whats comfortable.

his aint terrible but his elbow goes out far

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Austin-Rivers.png
i dunno, i think with a father that has played in the nba, at least youd have a respectable jumpshot? lets face it, players with broken forms are usually bad shooters(with the occasional exceptions). i think form is more a habit than born, and it CAN be changed. its just strikes me as odd, especially in the case of rivers whose father was a player and is a famed nba coach.

[DoodleDa]

Because some guys just can't shoot.

:facepalm

Shooting is simply a movement pattern that can be repeated again and again through practice. If you can physically make a shot one time, then you can get better and practice it. All that matters is the work you put in.

Minor discrepancies aren't that big of a problem. But when your shot is as bad as Rivers or MKG, there's no excuse for them to set their ego to the side and absolutely start from the basics and practice a new shooting form.

[jzek]

As long is the shot goes in, so what? http://i.imgur.com/p3KUJKe.gif (http://www.research.gov/research-portal/exit.jsp?link=http://blogerr.net)

[Random_Guy]

:facepalm

Shooting is simply a movement pattern that can be repeated again and again through practice. If you can physically make a shot one time, then you can get better and practice it. All that matters is the work you put in.

Minor discrepancies aren't that big of a problem. But when your shot is as bad as Rivers or MKG, there's no excuse for them to set their ego to the side and absolutely start from the basics and practice a new shooting form.
i agree, as long as they can lift their arms they can shoot. but i think its really hard, maybe too hard to start from scratch again

[Random_Guy]

As long is the shot goes in, so what? http://i.imgur.com/p3KUJKe.gif (http://www.research.gov/research-portal/exit.jsp?link=http://blogerr.net)
they could be so much better with a great form, its no coincidence that the best shooters usually have a pure form

[ZenMaster]

:facepalm

Shooting is simply a movement pattern that can be repeated again and again through practice. If you can physically make a shot one time, then you can get better and practice it. All that matters is the work you put in.

Minor discrepancies aren't that big of a problem. But when your shot is as bad as Rivers or MKG, there's no excuse for them to set their ego to the side and absolutely start from the basics and practice a new shooting form.

I've coached plenty of players into good shooters, and some just don't have it. For whatever reason they can't compute the movement needed between mind and body, at least not when inserting court movement and balance into it.
It's tough to understand for the majority who CAN fix their jump shot but it is reality, the evidence is right in front of you as well, hence this thread.

[Random_Guy]

I've coached plenty of players into good shooters, and some just don't have it. For whatever reason they can't compute the movement needed between mind and body, at least not when inserting court movement and balance into it.
It's tough to understand for the majority who CAN fix their jump shot but it is reality, the evidence is right in front of you as well, hence this thread.
admittedly, this is partly true, mostly its the problem with the body and arms coordination i think, some people (myself for instance) cant really time the legs and body shooting motion right although we know all the theories. but still, some things like arm formations shouldnt really be that hard to learn, right?

[jaybee682]

Not everybody in the NBA is there for their shooting.

[Random_Guy]

Not everybody in the NBA is there for their shooting.
true, but so many players would be so much better if they could just have at least a respectable jumper, and good shooting forms usually lead to good shooting.

[ZenMaster]

admittedly, this is partly true, mostly its the problem with the body and arms coordination i think, some people (myself for instance) cant really time the legs and body shooting motion right although we know all the theories. but still, some things like arm formations shouldnt really be that hard to learn, right?

It's not party true, it's 100% trust me.

[Random_Guy]

It's not party true, it's 100% trust me.
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[Mr. Jabbar]

when shawn marion misses a shot it should count as 2 missed shots

[GimmeThat]

probably because they are blessed with muscle reflex and muscle memories.

[DoodleDa]

I've coached plenty of players into good shooters, and some just don't have it. For whatever reason they can't compute the movement needed between mind and body, at least not when inserting court movement and balance into it.
It's tough to understand for the majority who CAN fix their jump shot but it is reality, the evidence is right in front of you as well, hence this thread.

And so have I, while I consider myself to be a rather elite shooter myself. That's a great excuse and all, except for the fact that as humans our brain is able to memorize motor patterns done over and over again through repetitions. It's not rocket science, it's just practice. If you practice you will get better. Saying "some just don't have it" is complete horse sh*t. If they have to work harder to attain a good jump shot then so be it, no one said it was easy. However, saying that someone will NEVER be a good jump shooter is just like saying their brain doesn't function properly.

So you're going to tell me with a straight face MKG has practiced jumpers as much as Nash, Curry, Allen, etc have at the same point in their life? There is no reality or evidence. These terrible shooters never learned the proper form at a young age therefore they've used this f*cked up form for years upon years so it would take an enormous amount of effort to change. HOWEVER in the end work pays off regardless of form. Miller has a f*cking ugly ass shot but he's arguably the best shooter of all time because he put in way more work than anyone else in the league.

[ZenMaster]

And so have I, while I consider myself to be a rather elite shooter myself. That's a great excuse and all, except for the fact that as humans our brain is able to memorize motor patterns done over and over again through repetitions. It's not rocket science, it's just practice. If you practice you will get better. Saying "some just don't have it" is complete horse sh*t. If they have to work harder to attain a good jump shot then so be it, no one said it was easy. However, saying that someone will NEVER be a good jump shooter is just like saying their brain doesn't function properly.

So you're going to tell me with a straight face MKG has practiced jumpers as much as Nash, Curry, Allen, etc have at the same point in their life? There is no reality or evidence. These terrible shooters never learned the proper form at a young age therefore they've used this f*cked up form for years upon years so it would take an enormous amount of effort to change. HOWEVER in the end work pays off regardless of form. Miller has a f*cking ugly ass shot but he's arguably the best shooter of all time because he put in way more work than anyone else in the league.

I disagree, I've had one of these players who just couldn't get it and he still has a huge hitch this very day.

Why would you assume every brain functions 100% when mixing balance, cordination and precision? Would you also state that anyone could be a good golfer?

Everyone will get better through practice, but some will get a lot better and some will hardly get better at all, and if you only get better by 1/5th of the pace that somebody else is getting better relative to the competition.
The evidence is not non-existing because MKG hasn't practiced jumpers as much as Curry, but it exists in the fact that he's shot a lot more than current high school players and many of them shoots better. It exists in the fact that there are many NBA players who's shot a ton with individual coaches and still can't shoot, see for example Dwight Howard.