90s athleticism/skills > today

[TheMan]

Alright all you 'today's era is better than the 90s', here are five 90s players who combine elite athleticism and elite skills. Come up with 5 modern players who are better than the 90s stars, should be easy right? I mean, today's athletes are so much better than yesteryear, right?
http://goethe.areavoices.com/files/2011/06/X00028_91.jpg
http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/pippen-over-ewing.jpg
http://www.posadaconchaespina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/tumblr_m972loOlYQ1qgspsyo1_500.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Michael-jordan-dunk.jpg
http://basket-infos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2.jpg

[rlsmooth775]

The 90s were overrated

[TheMan]

The 90s were overrated
Proof or GTFO:applause:

[NumberSix]

Proof or GTFO:applause:
The guy on the left.



http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/pippen-over-ewing.jpg

[TheMan]

The guy on the left.
Better overall than Tony Allen...

[JohnMax]

Rose, Westbrook, Wall

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1105/nba_3panel_split1_576.jpg

Wade

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/files/2011/04/Dwyane-Wade-vs.-Bobcats-II1.jpg

Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/rDbwHUk.jpg

Griffin

http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/files/2014/01/Blake-Griffin.jpg

Howard

http://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dwight-howard-houston-rockets-1.jpg

[Mr Exlax]

I think the only position that has less athleticism is the Center position. Other than that though, I think the players now are more athletic. Skills I'm torn on. 90's they were more fundamentally sound. Players now are more diverse in their skill sets, but lack the fundamentals.

[Milbuck]

MJ and young Kobe from around 1998-2003 were more athletic than the vast majority of players today. But all in all I wouldn't disagree with someone saying there's more athleticism throughout the entire NBA right now than in the 90s.

Skill-wise...no way.

[TheMan]

Rose, Westbrook, Wall

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1105/nba_3panel_split1_576.jpg

Wade

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/files/2011/04/Dwyane-Wade-vs.-Bobcats-II1.jpg

Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/rDbwHUk.jpg

Griffin

http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/files/2014/01/Blake-Griffin.jpg

Howard

http://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dwight-howard-houston-rockets-1.jpg
I said a combination of elite athleticism and elite skills, lol at Griffin and Howard :oldlol:

My list is still better though, Rose, RW and Wall are 'small'...

[The-Legend-24]

Nostalgia fakkits are WOAT.

Todays league >>

[Rocketswin2013]

Literally no difference in the level of players in any era except the 70's. All these era's talent is the same. I mean, what exactly are you trying to get across anyways? Jordan is GOAT? :lol That's not an agenda thread worthy topic.

[TheMan]

Nostalgia fakkits are WOAT.

Todays league >>
You wouldn't know, junior, I've been watching since the mid 80s, you since 2010...

[deja vu]

Hakeem >>>>>>>>> Dwight Howard

[Kvnzhangyay]

You wouldn't know, junior, I've been watching since the mid 80s, you since 2010...

Nah you haven't

[chocolatethunder]

I think the only position that has less athleticism is the Center position. Other than that though, I think the players now are more athletic. Skills I'm torn on. 90's they were more fundamentally sound. Players now are more diverse in their skill sets, but lack the fundamentals.
They aren't more diverse. No one can shoot a midrange shot and overall people are just poorer shooters. Passing is way worse than it used to be because of all this ISO ball.

[DonDadda59]

The only improvement athletic wise has been PGs... who are actually just low IQ, shoot first, undersized SGs masquerading as PGs :lol

[played0ut]

Overall, there are more athletics players today than in the 90's.

BUT, generally, the top 90's players had comparable athleticism AND more skills than today.




The 90's was when most NBA players started working out. Hell, MJ started at 25 (pretty late). Players now are all on weight/conditioning in high school.

If you're talking about fundamentals, though. They're lacking pretty hard compared to the 90's players. Seems a bit like they're relying on their athleticism as a crutch to overcome lack of fundamentals.

[DonDadda59]

Overall, there are more athletics players today than in the 90's.



Is that true though? Just look at the top 10 scorers in the league:

'13-'14
Durant
Melo
Bron
Love
Harden
Blake
Curry
Aldridge
Cousins
Derozan

Of those players, the only ones who are great athletes are Bron and Blake, with Demar and Cousins being second-third tier guys. The reigning MVP and scoring champion is a twig who could be blown away by a slight gust of wind. Then take a look at the mid 90s:

93-94
Robinson
Shaq
Hakeem
Dominique
Malone
Ewing
Richmond
Pippen
Barkley
Mourning

Richmond is pretty much the only guy on that list who wasn't a top tier athlete. That's not even counting Jordan.

Honestly, besides undersized SGs being called PGs (ie: Westbrook) I don't really see who these supposed superior athletes are, especially when considering star players. Not even going to touch the disparity in skilled and ultra athletic big men.

[Round Mound]

Obviously True :applause:

[Marchesk]

Yeah, this guy didn't have Rose, Wall or Westbrook athleticism:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3324/4568510569_f6335f94da.jpg

[jstern]

It's really equal. Same human genetics.

Half of the track and field records are from the 90s, the other half from the 2000s. Meaning that if you matched them up against each other it would be a draw. (Yet the dummer people would look at it as if it means that the 2000s are better.)

And with basketball it's a different things, because it's not even so much the most athletic who makes it to the league, but the most skilled.

Also if you check out the 100 meter dash, the world record difference from like 1961 and today is like half a second.

[Marchesk]

Also if you check out the 100 meter dash, the world record difference from like 1961 and today is like half a second.

And some of that is faster track surfaces and better shoes. Some of it is Usain Bolt being a freak of nature.

[TheMan]

Is that true though? Just look at the top 10 scorers in the league:

'13-'14
Durant
Melo
Bron
Love
Harden
Blake
Curry
Aldridge
Cousins
Derozan

Of those players, the only ones who are great athletes are Bron and Blake, with Demar and Cousins being second-third tier guys. The reigning MVP and scoring champion is a twig who could be blown away by a slight gust of wind. Then take a look at the mid 90s:

93-94
Robinson
Shaq
Hakeem
Dominique
Malone
Ewing
Richmond
Pippen
Barkley
Mourning

Richmond is pretty much the only guy on that list who wasn't a top tier athlete. That's not even counting Jordan.

Honestly, besides undersized SGs being called PGs (ie: Westbrook) I don't really see who these supposed superior athletes are, especially when considering star players. Not even going to touch the disparity in skilled and ultra athletic big men.
:applause: Dat list

I've given these kids a chance to show me these 'super athletes' with elite skills and other than LeBron, where are they:confusedshrug: lol at Melo, Love and KD :oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Nobody's bothered to mention this inferior athlete from the 90s?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1205/shawn.kemp.rare.photos/images/kemp-dunk-fix.jpg

[TheMan]

I was gonna put him on my list but just wanted to narrow it to 5.

The silence from the youngsters is deafening, especially from that fakkit NumberSix :oldlol:

[Rose'sACL]

They aren't more diverse. No one can shoot a midrange shot and overall people are just poorer shooters. Passing is way worse than it used to be because of all this ISO ball.
how is passing way worse? also, there are plenty of mid range shooters right now that would be considered elite shooters in any era. i don't think any one in nba history other than bird matched durant's shooting percentages all over the floor and bird shot a lot less 3s than durant.

[played0ut]

I
Durant
Melo
Bron
Love
Harden
Blake
Curry
Aldridge
Cousins
Derozan



93-94
Robinson
Shaq
Hakeem
Dominique
Malone
Ewing
Richmond
Pippen
Barkley
Mourning


That's true.

Though I think people are talking more about modern guards than forwards. If you're talking bigs, then yeah. But the game has gravitated towards favouring guards now with the rule changes.

Off the top of my head, aside from Jordan and Clyde I can't really think of truly athletic guards in the 90's.

Where as in modern times you got John Wall, Derrick Rose (not now, obvs, but 'modern times'), Westbrook, Rondo, and Nate Robinson. Hell, Jeremy Lin's pretty athletic too IMO.

[Solefade]

top 10 is arguable of who was more athletic but all of the damn scrubs are athletic today..gerald green would be a superstar in the 80's/90's :oldlol:

[MagnumT/A]

Yeah, this guy didn't have Rose, Wall or Westbrook athleticism:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3324/4568510569_f6335f94da.jpg

KJ was awesome. Nice pic!!

[bdreason]

80's > 90's > 00's > Today > 70's > 60's > 50's

[Paul George 24]

top 10 is arguable of who was more athletic but all of the damn scrubs are athletic today..gerald green would be a superstar in the 80's/90's :oldlol:

HE WILL GET KNOCK BY RODMAN

[Paul George 24]

top 10 is arguable of who was more athletic but all of the damn scrubs are athletic today..gerald green would be a superstar in the 80's/90's :oldlol:

AND LEBRON IS SOFT

[Psileas]

top 10 is arguable of who was more athletic but all of the damn scrubs are athletic today..gerald green would be a superstar in the 80's/90's :oldlol:

All the damn scrubs were athletic back then, as well. Gerald Green would be as much of a "superstar" as Harold Miner was.


80's > 90's > 00's > Today > 70's > 60's > 50's

This topic is specifically about athletes, so, with technology into account, today > any other era of the past, though only by a little.
As players though, how can the 80's be so far above the 70's when a large fraction of them consisted of players who were active in the 70's (not to mention that legends like Wilt, Oscar, West, Havlicek were still active in the 70's, as well)? The only argument that I can find is the existence of the ABA, but I'm sure most would still rank the 70's that low even if we "merged" the talent of the 2 leagues.

[AintNoSunshine]

The only guys that are really really special are Shaq and Jordan, they pretty much hit the genetic lottery, had nothing to do with which decade they happened to be born in. The game overall is simply better today, like pretty much everything, they evolve and improve.

[Marchesk]

i don't think any one in nba history other than bird matched durant's shooting percentages all over the floor and bird shot a lot less 3s than durant.

Dale Ellis? Has the same FG% as Durant for his career, and shot 40.3% from beyond the arc. He didn't shoot as many 3s, but then again players didn't back then. Still, it's not that big of a difference (1.4/3.5 compared to 1.6/4.4).

[Rose'sACL]

Dale Ellis? Has the same FG% as Durant for his career, and shot 40.3% from beyond the arc. He didn't shoot as many 3s, but then again players didn't back then. Still, it's not that big of a difference (1.4/3.5 compared to 1.6/4.4).
yeah. forgot about him but still he only averaged close or above 25ppg for 3 seasons. you can't blame me for not including him when i am replying to an idiot who thinks that no one in the game today can shoot mid range jumpers on good efficiency.

[Marchesk]

Dee Brown, 6-1 PG in 91:

http://i.cnn.net/si/fannation/dee-dunk.jpg

And then there's always Spud Webb:

http://wannadunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/spud-webb-dunk-contest.jpg

[Roundball_Rock]

Basketball is the only sport whose athletic evolution froze in 1998. :rolleyes:

[kureyşi-gospurs]

Alright all you 'today's era is better than the 90s', here are five 90s players who combine elite athleticism and elite skills. Come up with 5 modern players who are better than the 90s stars, should be easy right? I mean, today's athletes are so much better than yesteryear, right?
http://goethe.areavoices.com/files/2011/06/X00028_91.jpg
http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/pippen-over-ewing.jpg
http://www.posadaconchaespina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/tumblr_m972loOlYQ1qgspsyo1_500.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Michael-jordan-dunk.jpg
http://basket-infos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2.jpg

Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Paul George, Anthony Davis, and Blake Griffin. And who can forget LeBron James.

[MC Gusto]

Athleticism today > 90s athleticism
90s skills > skills today

[BoutPractice]

Average athleticism may be higher, the athletic specimens are just about as athletic as in any other era.

Athletic bigmen specifically may be worse. We do have our Dwights, DeAndres and Drummonds, but no David Robinson or Shaq.

[Marchesk]

Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Paul George, Anthony Davis, and Blake Griffin. And who can forget LeBron James.

The OP mentioned a combination of elite athleticism and skill. So that leaves Lebron James from your list. Westbrook is a maybe. The OP's list is superior. Shaq, Robinson, Pippen, Nique, MJ > any contemporary list so far. It's not even close.

[Marchesk]

Also, I'd like to know how Lebron is greater physical specimen than Robinson was. He's the better all-time player, but Robinson won the genetic lottery as much as Lebron did.

[Marchesk]

Basketball is the only sport whose athletic evolution froze in 1998. :rolleyes:

Then come up with superior athletes. I'll put the best physical specimens in the 90s against anyone today. Go ahead. Find a Shaq, a David Robinson, or a Hakeem. You can't.

[chocolatethunder]

80's > 90's > 00's > Today > 70's > 60's > 50's
Correct answer.

[avonbarksdale]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-My3hLyALD-U/TfqtarLp41I/AAAAAAAAAKI/zD7owmzhWoE/s1600/Wade-Dunks-on-Varejao.jpg
http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/17736-kobe-dunk-on-dwight-howard.jpg
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/576/266/lebron-james-dunk-jason-terry-81406_original_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

[r0drig0lac]

80's > 90's > 00's > Today > 70's > 60's > 50's
/thread

[moe94]

Yeah, this guy didn't have Rose, Wall or Westbrook athleticism:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3324/4568510569_f6335f94da.jpg

Are you arguing that he did? :roll:

[AintNoSunshine]

All time athletic team by position:

Shaq
Griffin
Lebron
Jordan
Westbrook

3 are playing today.

Post 2000 is without a doubt the most athletic era, by far.

VC, Tmac, Iverson, Garnett, Amare
Wall, Rose, Bron, Westbrook, Griffin, Howard, Wade, DeAndre

These are just off the top of my head, super athletic dudes. I am sure I'm forgetting a ton.

[hitmanyr2k]

Yeah, this guy didn't have Rose, Wall or Westbrook athleticism:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3324/4568510569_f6335f94da.jpg

I would have mentioned Robert Pack before KJ. KJ could get up but Pack could take off from further out and still finish with force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8fkDbJJvQ

[TheMan]

top 10 is arguable of who was more athletic but all of the damn scrubs are athletic today..gerald green would be a superstar in the 80's/90's :oldlol:
Homeless man's Gerald Wilkins

[Rocketswin2013]

80's > 90's > 00's > Today > 70's > 60's > 50's
Lol @ the 70's being better than the 60's in any way. The 70's is the WOAT era.

[Marchesk]

I would have mentioned Robert Pack before KJ. KJ could get up but Pack could take off from further out and still finish with force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8fkDbJJvQ

Holy shit! That dudes looks as athletic as Rose or Westbrook. Looks like he dunks on Kemp in that video!

http://prohoopshistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/robert-pack.jpg

[Marchesk]

And then there's this dude:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/nba.dunk.contest.winners/images/1994-isaiah-rider.jpg

And someone mentioned "baby Jordan":

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Hh7ciDvnoHU/TVr7e6Z5hRI/AAAAAAAAARo/PpfAK4oyUwI/s1600/1993-harold-minor.jpg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Nah.. Today's athleticism > yesteryears

Skills are about equal; different eras emphasized more than others (midrange and passing in the 80s/90s and 3PT shooting/handles today)

[Marchesk]

Nah.. Today's athleticism > yesteryears

I'm not seeing it. For every super athletic player today, someone equivalent from the 90s can be brought up.

[kshutts1]

People shouldn't forget David Thompson.

[Hey Yo]

Shaq had elite skills??

[moe94]

Shaq had elite skills??

Absolutely. Are you insane?

[kshutts1]

All time athletic team by position:

Shaq
Griffin
Lebron
Jordan
Westbrook

3 are playing today.

Post 2000 is without a doubt the most athletic era, by far.

VC, Tmac, Iverson, Garnett, Amare
Wall, Rose, Bron, Westbrook, Griffin, Howard, Wade, DeAndre

These are just off the top of my head, super athletic dudes. I am sure I'm forgetting a ton.

All time athletic team? Needs Wilt at C. Griffin at PF is possible, but there are so many options there... KG, Kemp, Stro... But if we have to add in skills, then obviously Stro is out of the picture.

All time athletic team.... w/o taking skills into account // with skills

Wilt // Wilt
Josh Smith // Griffin
Lebron // Lebron
AI // Jordan
Nate // Westbrook

I'm sure I'm missing some phenomenal athletes from the 80's and earlier. Doc, David Thompson, Deandre, DRob, and some others are missed/barely missing the cut.

[Kvnzhangyay]

I'm not seeing it. For every super athletic player today, someone equivalent from the 90s can be brought up.


Yes.... but the OVERALL athleticism was lower.

[Hey Yo]

Absolutely. Are you insane?
I'll give him being a great passer as a big man, but dude hardly shot the ball. Some baby hooks here and there but mostly dunks.

Saying he had elite skills is a stretch.

[inclinerator]

I'll give him being a great passer as a big man, but dude hardly shot the ball. Some baby hooks here and there but mostly dunks.

Saying he had elite skills is a stretch.
he didnt dunk everytime, while he did bully ppl and got away with offensive fouls, he had amazing touch on his hook shots and great footwork

[PHILA]

Griffin

PF could be Barkley as well. He is a lot stronger than Griffin and actually had a higher vertical jump (37.5 inches). Griffin before the draft was measured at 35.5 inches.

But perhaps the most important attribute is quick jumping off the ground, particularly under the boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2TpfjKnPE&t=14m9s

[TheMan]

Shaq had elite skills??
:biggums:

Have you ever seen Shaq grab a defensive rebound and take it all the way for a slam dunk, this is a 7 foot 300 lb dude we're talking about, FFS :facepalm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b866hh4apUI&feature=youtube_gdata_playerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYcnsFdu8q8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xREPAcRSpE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Kvnzhangyay]

PF could be Barkley as well. He is a lot stronger than Griffin and actually had a higher vertical jump (37.5 inches). Griffin before the draft was measured at 35.5 inches.

But perhaps the most important attribute is quick jumping off the ground, particularly under the boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2TpfjKnPE&t=14m9s


I wouldn't really consider Barkley a PF body wise, I mean the dude was like 6 foot 6

[SHAQisGOAT]

Whole athleticism argument and cliches get overblown out of proportions

Just the other day I was realizing that overall/on average, Larry Bird faced better defenders and/or more athletic players than LeBron James, even in terms of size, especially when you factor in playoffs.

[Round Mound]

I wouldn't really consider Barkley a PF body wise, I mean the dude was like 6 foot 6

[B]Smaller Actually 6

[Straight_Ballin]

Nah you haven't

He hasn't but I have.

Come at me bro.

90's>today

I wish today was better because it's what I'm watching at the present time and I don't want the present to be inferior to the past.

[TheMan]

He hasn't but I have.

Come at me bro.

90's>today

I wish today was better because it's what I'm watching at the present time and I don't want the present to be inferior to the past.
That fakkit claims I didn't watch 80s BBall, I'm in my 40s FFS.


And I started this thread to challenge the younger cats to produce a better list than the one I listed in the OP and so far they've failed hard. Round Rock or whatever the fvck's his name didn't even try and produce a list, neither NumberSix :oldlol:
With so many mythical elite athletes with elite skills running around today, it should be easy, no???


I win:pimp:

[GimmeThat]

this just in

the NFL concussion policy and heads up football to prevent kids from having concussion has just been treated as a joke.


have fun doing damage control with that one.

[Dragonyeuw]

The whole athleticism thing is overrated. Elite skills/IQ will always give you a prominent place in the league, even if youre limited athletically. You got a 38 Duncan playing a key role in the NBA finals, who was never 'athletic' to begin with compared the Griffins and Stoudamires of the world, still one of the best bigs in the league 16 years later.

[SHAQisGOAT]

PF could be Barkley as well. He is a lot stronger than Griffin and actually had a higher vertical jump (37.5 inches). Griffin before the draft was measured at 35.5 inches.

But perhaps the most important attribute is quick jumping off the ground, particularly under the boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2TpfjKnPE&t=14m9s

One of the best athletes ever, simply put... Especially you factor in skills combined, that way he has definitely to be #1 for PF's.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Shaq had elite skills??

:rolleyes: Why not??? :confusedshrug: At least great

[SHAQisGOAT]

Yeah, this guy didn't have Rose, Wall or Westbrook athleticism:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3324/4568510569_f6335f94da.jpg

Wouldn't really say better but definitely same level... KJ is very overlooked as an athlete, before injuries he was very explosive, quick and could really get up.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Dale Ellis? Has the same FG% as Durant for his career, and shot 40.3% from beyond the arc. He didn't shoot as many 3s, but then again players didn't back then. Still, it's not that big of a difference (1.4/3.5 compared to 1.6/4.4).

1989:

27.5 ppg on 50.1 / 47.8 / 81.6 (4.1 3PA's per game) :bowdown: :bowdown:

That man could really shoot that thing... Pretty tall for a SG, athletic, strong, extremely quick release, great off-ball moving really quickly, good post-game and inside moves too... After an early prime, got traded become a journeyman and went through constant injuries, though. Only area in terms of shooting that he wasn't elite was at the FT line.

[SHAQisGOAT]

top 10 is arguable of who was more athletic but all of the damn scrubs are athletic today..gerald green would be a superstar in the 80's/90's :oldlol:

:rolleyes: :facepalm

You don't even know more than a dozen players from back then but keep talking bullshit.

Just like Orlando Woolridge, Darryl Dawkins or Terence Stansbury(cut from the league), so on... were superstars, right? :rolleyes: :facepalm

[MiseryCityTexas]

The guy on the left.


Agreed. Patrick Ewing was very overrated, and was barely better than Alonzo Mourning.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Wouldn't really say better but definitely same level... KJ is very overlooked as an athlete, before injuries he was very explosive, quick and could really get up.

KJ dunked on the greatest shot blocker of all time. Baron Davis dunked all over prime Kevin Garnett. KJ and B Diddy athleticism > Westbrook and Rose athleticism.

[KOBE143]

Agree

MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson, Ewing, Malone, Kobe, etc are more athletic and has more skills than player today..

Who do you think are better than those guys today?

LeBron ugly duckling post up, Dwight who would lose against a telephone pole in 1v1 match, Wade, James Harden.. :confusedshrug: LOL

[moe94]

KJ and B Diddy athleticism > Westbrook and Rose athleticism.
Stop.

[GimmeThat]

when everyone starts taking 3s
it's the guy who can draw the contact and makes the 2 that becomes rare and valuable

when everyone can draw the contact and make the 2
guys who can make the 3s without doing a lick of anything else all of sudden are praised for and is an "odd" rarity especially if he plays defense too.


balls don't lie

[aau]

Is that true though? look at the mid 90s:

93-94
Robinson
Shaq
Hakeem
Dominique
Malone
Ewing
Richmond
Pippen
Barkley
Mourning



wow

it was common knowledge that big men were the better players during the 90s , but now we receive word that it wasn't just that , , they were the better athletes as well . . . w o w . . . when was the last time giants were the better athletes and players . . . sure as hell wasn't the 70s with doc and david walkin around . . . . certainly not the run n gun dunk 80s of magic bird and young Jordan and Dominique . . . hahaha , , , , , y'all know

looking at that list

7 of the top 10 are f/c with five true centers

the logical question becomes

given the entire decade starting with

Jordan - pippen - Dominique

can you name just 2 other players before you called the names

kobe
LeBron
vince
tmac
rose
wbrook
Iverson
Durant
wade

cause you can easily rattle off a few bigs

Duncan
kg
Dwight
cwebb
blake
and prime
shaq

that actually dominated by winning



ray allen can't list

but mitch Richmond is like top 5




that niqqas crazy

[Soundwave]

KJ was an incredible athlete, I remember watching that game and literally slid off my couch when he dunked on Hakeem. :lol

This thread needs more Shawn Kemp though, he's more athletic than any big man in the NBA right now.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1205/shawn.kemp.rare.photos/images/kemp-dunk-fix.jpg

http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1993-94-nba-hoops-chris-webber3.jpg

A younger Chris Webber too ... IMO, Blake Griffin would not be able to guard him. Tremendous hands and mobility for a dude that big.

The bigs of the 90s just eat modern bigs alive, Roy Hibbert is a clumsy f*ck, but he's a top 3-4 big in today's sad NBA.

Barkley and Rodman were incredible athletes in their own way too.

[fandarko]

Agreed. Patrick Ewing was very overrated, and was barely better than Alonzo Mourning.

You obviously didn't watch a lot of Pat. He would shit on all of today's centers and be a Top 5 player in today's league.

He was way better than Zo.

Just check his stats.

In his prime, he would have been a 30 ppg scorer in today's league, easily.

Compare his to the numbers of All star center Roy Hibbert.

Now, he is overrated.

Ewing was a monster.

[dreamwarrior]

Those short shorts gave the 90's players an unfair advantage. You can maneuver a lot better in those than with the long baggy shorts of today

[305Baller]

its the same.