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1987_Lakers
06-07-2014, 02:26 PM
96 Season: 50 FG%
Finals vs Seattle: 42 FG%

97 Season: 49 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 46 FG%

98 Season: 47 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 43 FG%

I thought the dude was a God?:confusedshrug:

1987_Lakers
06-07-2014, 02:28 PM
'97 ECF vs Miami
Jordan: 39 FG%:oldlol:

NumberSix
06-07-2014, 02:37 PM
'97 ECF vs Miami
Jordan: 39 FG%:oldlol:
That wasn't one of the "when it matters" series.

livinglegend
06-07-2014, 02:38 PM
good thread :applause: :applause:

atljonesbro
06-07-2014, 02:38 PM
'97 ECF vs Miami
Jordan: 39 FG%:oldlol:
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/513de4f969beddd748000008/that-insane-deandre-jordan-dunk-is-overrated.jpg

livinglegend
06-07-2014, 02:39 PM
'97 ECF vs Miami
Jordan: 39 FG%:oldlol:

yeah, but his stacked team that won 55 games without him won the series for him. So, it doesnt count.
#Jordanstanslogic

Kvnzhangyay
06-07-2014, 02:40 PM
Cuz he was old

Mrofir
06-07-2014, 02:55 PM
96 Season: 50 FG%
Finals vs Seattle: 42 FG%
series stats -- 27.3ppg, 5.3rpg, 4.2apg, 1.7stl, 3TO

97 Season: 49 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 46 FG%
Series stats -- 32.3ppg, 7rpg, 6apg, 1.2stl, 2.16TO

98 Season: 47 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 43 FG%
Series stats -- 33.5ppg, 4rpg, 2.3apg, 1.8stl, 1.66TO


I thought the dude was a God?:confusedshrug:

At least tell the whole story..

Pippen's numbers for those 3 finals --

96 -- 15.7 ppg, 8.2rpg, 5.3apg, 2.3 stl, 1.9 TO
97 -- 20ppg, 8.3rpg, 3.5apg, 1.7 stl, 1.8blk, 3.5TO
98 -- 15.7 ppg, 6.8rpg, 4.8apg, 1.7 stl, 2.7TO

NumberSix
06-07-2014, 03:00 PM
yeah, but his stacked team that won 55 games without him won the series for him. So, it doesnt count.
#Jordanstanslogic
Jordan always shows up when it matters. He didn't show up, therefore, that series didn't matter.

Legends66NBA7
06-07-2014, 03:02 PM
I thought the dude was a God?:confusedshrug:

Like I said in the other thread. It can either be one or the other for exaggerations.

livinglegend
06-07-2014, 03:02 PM
Jordan always shows up when it matters. He didn't show up, therefore, that series didn't matter.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

IncarceratedBob
06-07-2014, 03:03 PM
He didn't need to play his best to win and he knew it, basketball was probably the last thing on his mind during those series. He had already proved everyone wrong and everyone on the planet knew he was the greatest basketball player ever. MJ didn't care if he won or lost those series.

DonDadda59
06-07-2014, 03:04 PM
Wait a damn minute... time out... stop the presses...

Is this a thread wherein KOBE and LEBRON stans are questioning MJ's finals performances.



Really?





Word?





This is Really going down?






Am I understanding this correctly?







http://www.ladymoiraine.com/forum/gallery/28/4265-050912181440.gif

played0ut
06-07-2014, 03:10 PM
96 Season: 50 FG%
Finals vs Seattle: 42 FG%

97 Season: 49 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 46 FG%

98 Season: 47 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 43 FG%

I thought the dude was a God?:confusedshrug:

It would give you more credit as a poster if you actually posted his stats.



Anyway, because he was older and wasn't as good.

ThePhantomCreep
06-07-2014, 03:15 PM
96 Season: 50 FG%
Finals vs Seattle: 42 FG%

97 Season: 49 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 46 FG%

98 Season: 47 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 43 FG%

I thought the dude was a God?:confusedshrug:

The only huge regression I see is 1996, and that's explained by Jordan's horrible shooting in games 4 and 6. It's pretty common for percentages to fluctuate a bit, especially in a short series where everyone is playing for their lives.

This is a what I consider a major regression:

Regular Season: 56.5%
Finals: 44.7%

Regular Season: 47.6%
Finals: 35.6%

NumberSix
06-07-2014, 03:17 PM
He didn't need to play his best to win and he knew it, basketball was probably the last thing on his mind during those series. He had already proved everyone wrong and everyone on the planet knew he was the greatest basketball player ever. MJ didn't care if he won or lost those series.
I hope this is intentional.

I was just making the "this series didn't matter" joke, but you appear to be genuinely making that argument.

DonDadda59
06-07-2014, 03:18 PM
This is a what I consider a major regression:

Regular Season: 56.5%
Finals: 44.7%

Regular Season: 47.6%
Finals: 35.6%

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3625417-7496304809-abs9a.gif

DJ Leon Smith
06-07-2014, 03:19 PM
http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/81727754-jason-terry.jpg

atljonesbro
06-07-2014, 03:21 PM
Wait a damn minute... time out... stop the presses...

Is this a thread wherein KOBE and LEBRON stans are questioning MJ's finals performances.



Really?





Word?





This is Really going down?






Am I understanding this correctly?







http://www.ladymoiraine.com/forum/gallery/28/4265-050912181440.gif
Lol at this desperate, hyperbolic post trying to direct attention to another player.

DonDadda59
06-07-2014, 03:27 PM
Lol at this desperate, hyperbolic post trying to direct attention to another player.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmja9hfOen1qbiq9o.jpg

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/jet3.gif

:applause:

ArbitraryWater
06-07-2014, 03:30 PM
Eh, we all know 1996-1998 MJ wasn't peak MJ anymore... What made/makes him GOAT is 1991-1993 GOAT Caliber stuff... You can flip a coin between MJ 1991-1993 and Shaq 2000-2002... 1996-1998 MJ was more like 2008-2010 KB. Not great title runs, nothing special that was never seen before or transcendent, but good title runs.. Id almost call it "your regular title leading run".. Of course while it was MJ's "worst", quote on quote, it was still the best out of Kobe.

aj1987
06-07-2014, 03:43 PM
:oldlol: @ MJ stans. A LAKER fan created the topic and they bring up LeBron? Dat insecurity doe.

DonDadda59
06-07-2014, 03:45 PM
:oldlol: @ MJ stans. A LAKER fan created the topic and they bring up LeBron? Dat insecurity doe.

I also brought up Kobe doe :confusedshrug:

bukowski81
06-07-2014, 03:45 PM
:oldlol: @ MJ stans. A LAKER fan created the topic and they bring up LeBron? Dat insecurity doe.

Can it be because the first posters on this thread to make fun of this are lebron stans??? Talk about insecurity

aj1987
06-07-2014, 03:46 PM
I also brought up Kobe doe :confusedshrug:
Why don't you actually answer OP's question, instead of posting LeBron gifs and what not.

ThePhantomCreep
06-07-2014, 03:51 PM
Eh, we all know 1996-1998 MJ wasn't peak MJ anymore... What made/makes him GOAT is 1991-1993 GOAT Caliber stuff... You can flip a coin between MJ 1991-1993 and Shaq 2000-2002... 1996-1998 MJ was more like 2008-2010 KB. Not great title runs, nothing special that was never seen before or transcendent, but good title runs.. Id almost call it "your regular title leading run".. Of course while it was MJ's "worst", quote on quote, it was still the best out of Kobe.

3x titles
3x Finals MVP
2x MVP
1st team All-NBA and All-defense every year
29/6/4 averages at age 33-35:
3x scoring titles

Yup, nothing special here folks. Move along. :facepalm

Shaq's three-peat run isn't as accomplished.

DonDadda59
06-07-2014, 03:57 PM
Why don't you actually answer OP's question, instead of posting LeBron gifs and what not.

What was the OP's question? Why did Jordan 'regress so much' in the finals? :lol

Does the OP realize that in '97 alone, Jordan hit a buzzer beater to win game 1 for the Bulls and Game 5 was the legendary Flu game? Maybe everyone in this thread needs a refresher course...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7brWGz-0qA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEwEsdKrNcM

Then in 98 he hits one of the most iconic shots in NBA History to win the game, the series, and ring #6 for the Bulls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_1ZxCN3nI

And I would LOVE to see how members of the 30% FG in the finals club would perform against this sort of defensive pressure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WpkXlrJxtw

If you people classify that as 'regression', I wonder what you'd call some other guys' finals performances :lol

ArbitraryWater
06-07-2014, 03:59 PM
3x titles
3x Finals MVP
2x MVP
1st team All-NBA and All-defense every year
29/6/4 averages at age 33-35:
3x scoring titles

Yup, nothing special here folks. Move along. :facepalm

Shaq's three-peat run isn't as accomplished.

Who gives a damn about accomplished? Shaq's is 2x as dominant..

Those all-defense teams :lol

Hey, in case you didnt know kid, Shaq 00-02 > MJ 96-98 defensive impact

aj1987
06-07-2014, 04:01 PM
What was the OP's question? Why did Jordan 'regress so much' in the finals? :lol

Does the OP realize that in '97 alone, Jordan hit a buzzer beater to win game 1 for the Bulls and Game 5 was the legendary Flu game? Maybe everyone in this thread needs a refresher course...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7brWGz-0qA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEwEsdKrNcM

Then in 98 he hits one of the most iconic shots in NBA History to win the game, the series, and ring #6 for the Bulls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_1ZxCN3nI

And I would LOVE to see how members of the 30% FG in the finals club would perform against this sort of defensive pressure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WpkXlrJxtw

If you people classify that as 'regression', I wonder what you'd call some other guys' finals performances :lol
This is what I'm talking about. If you think the thread is idiotic, make them shut up by posting FACTS.

OP's turn.

DonDadda59
06-07-2014, 04:07 PM
This is what I'm talking about. If you think the thread is idiotic, make them shut up by posting FACTS.

OP's turn.

:kobe:

I've been administering that ether to these clowns since before you were even a twinkle in Jeff's eye. F*ck you, f*ck the OP's turn, f*ck Insidehoops for that matter.

I'm out.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/23467/sexual-chocolate-o.gif

ThePhantomCreep
06-07-2014, 04:08 PM
Who gives a damn about accomplished? Shaq's is 2x as dominant..

Those all-defense teams :lol

Hey, in case you didnt know kid, Shaq 00-02 > MJ 96-98 defensive impact

Sure, he was. That's why the 2000 and 2002 Lakers barely (and I mean BARELY) squeaked by the Blazers and Kings in the conference Finals. Keep in mind that Shaq had the better second option, Kobe Bryant. If Shaq was truly 2x as dominant, they would have three-peated far more comfortably, like they did in 2001. He'd also have some hardware to show from 1994-1999, when he played on stacked teams.

I still have nightmares of Bibby draining wide open shot after wide open shot because The Big Overrated refused to come out and defend the pick and roll. Some defensive impact.

ArbitraryWater
06-07-2014, 04:13 PM
Sure, he was. That's why the 2000 and 2002 Lakers barely (and I mean BARELY) squeaked by the Blazers and Kings in the conference Finals. Keep in mind that Shaq had the better second option, Kobe Bryant. If Shaq was truly 2x as dominant, they would have three-peated far more comfortably, like they did in 2001. He'd also have some hardware to show from 1994-1999, when he played on stacked teams.

I still have nightmares of Bibby draining wide open shot after wide open shot because The Big Overrated refused to come out and defend the pick and roll. Some defensive impact.

Look, who was better, 1996-1998 MJ or 2000-2002 Shaq?

This aint a fuggin debate to be had, boy

aj1987
06-07-2014, 04:18 PM
:kobe:

I've been administering that ether to these clowns since before you were even a twinkle in Jeff's eye. F*ck you, f*ck the OP's turn, f*ck Insidehoops for that matter.

I'm out.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/23467/sexual-chocolate-o.gif
Go back to Realgaymean, ******.

You posted a couple of great shots, and a good game. OP was talking about entire series, bitch.

ThePhantomCreep
06-07-2014, 04:22 PM
Look, who was better, 1996-1998 MJ or 2000-2002 Shaq?

This aint a fuggin debate to be had, boy:roll:

Who are you calling boy, homer? LeBron fanboys have a median age of 7.

Not only did 33-35 Jordan accomplish more than peak Shaq, he didn't need a top 10-caliber ATG like Kobe to do it either.

The post-baseball Jordan is pretty underrated here. Lol @ "good not great title runs". GTFOH, FG% junkie.

NumberSix
06-07-2014, 04:24 PM
After he got suspended for PED use and betting on NBA games, he wasn't able to take roids anymore

NumberSix
06-07-2014, 04:24 PM
:roll:

Who are you calling boy, homer? LeBron fanboys have a median age of 7.

Not only did 33-35 Jordan accomplish more than peak Shaq, he didn't need a top 10-caliber ATG like Kobe to do it either.

The post-baseball Jordan is pretty underrated here. Lol @ "good not great title runs". GTFOH, FG% junkie.
I'm 4

ArbitraryWater
06-07-2014, 04:29 PM
:roll:

Who are you calling boy, homer?

Who are you calling homer, kid?

NumberSix
06-07-2014, 04:34 PM
Who are you calling homer, kid?
I'm not your buddy, guy.

ThePhantomCreep
06-07-2014, 04:36 PM
Who are you calling homer, kid?

I'm not a kid, child.

Legends66NBA7
06-07-2014, 04:48 PM
:oldlol: @ MJ stans. A LAKER fan created the topic and they bring up LeBron? Dat insecurity doe.

OP also has a low key agenda working here. Check the "I thought the dude was a god :confusedshrug:" comment. Infact, I've seen Laker fans trying to mock or take shots at Jordan on occasion.

It hardly has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Straight_Ballin
06-07-2014, 05:17 PM
He didn't need to play his best to win and he knew it, basketball was probably the last thing on his mind during those series. He had already proved everyone wrong and everyone on the planet knew he was the greatest basketball player ever. MJ didn't care if he won or lost those series.

This is exactly right. Jordan could play games and ensure that not a single move or exterted energy on his part was wasted....when he wanted to that is. He was that good. There was no need for him to shoot 50% when he could shoot 39% and still be the best player on the floor. He literally went thought the motions and still dominated.

Everyone else has always tried to give it their best and play 100% their hardness to be great.

Jordan didn't. He was that good.

Rose'sACL
06-07-2014, 05:21 PM
This is exactly right. Jordan could play games and ensure that not a single move or exterted energy on his part was wasted....when he wanted to that is. He was that good. There was no need for him to shoot 50% when he could shoot 39% and still be the best player on the floor. He literally went thought the motions and still dominated.

Everyone else has always tried to give it their best and play 100% their hardness to be great.

Jordan didn't. He was that good.
i am just using your logic here and by that logic, lebron's first 5 games didn't matter in last finals game as he knew that he could win game 6 and 7. He was so good that he even knew that pop would take out duncan and he could shoot the ball from a few feet behind the 3 point line as bosh would rebound and allen would get an open shot and then they would win in OT and then he would score 37 to win game 7.
These are not my thoughts. I am just using your logic.

1987_Lakers
06-07-2014, 05:34 PM
:kobe:

I've been administering that ether to these clowns since before you were even a twinkle in Jeff's eye. F*ck you, f*ck the OP's turn, f*ck Insidehoops for that matter.

I'm out.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/23467/sexual-chocolate-o.gif

What a dork.

1987_Lakers
06-07-2014, 05:36 PM
OP also has a low key agenda working here. Check the "I thought the dude was a god :confusedshrug:" comment. Infact, I've seen Laker fans trying to mock or take shots at Jordan on occasion.

It hardly has anything to do with the topic at hand.

The why did Larry Bird regress thread inspired me to make this one, didn't you catch the similar thread title?

Straight_Ballin
06-07-2014, 05:37 PM
i am just using your logic here and by that logic, lebron's first 5 games didn't matter in last finals game as he knew that he could win game 6 and 7. He was so good that he even knew that pop would take out duncan and he could shoot the ball from a few feet behind the 3 point line as bosh would rebound and allen would get an open shot and then they would win in OT and then he would score 37 to win game 7.
These are not my thoughts. I am just using your logic.

Your not using my logic. Your comparing a beta who cramped up in the finals to someone who doesn't cramp up in the finals ever. Someone who was perfect in the finals.

Jordan at effortless = Bron giving it all he has.

aj1987
06-07-2014, 05:39 PM
Your not using my logic. Your comparing a beta who cramped up in the finals to someone who doesn't cramp up in the finals ever. Someone who was perfect in the finals.

Jordan at effortless = Bron giving it all he has.
That might be because your "logic" is retarded.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/06/michael-jordan-taken-out-nba-finals-game-cramps-like-lebron-james

Straight_Ballin
06-07-2014, 05:47 PM
That might be because your "logic" is retarded.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/06/michael-jordan-taken-out-nba-finals-game-cramps-like-lebron-james

By cramp up I meant have your game cramped up so that it forces you to not win the finals.

Straight_Ballin
06-07-2014, 05:55 PM
Triple double in 20 minutes making it look easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBMxQSbbFGk

AirFederer
06-07-2014, 06:46 PM
Jordan always shows up when it matters. He didn't show up, therefore, that series didn't matter.
Stay Mad biiiiitch

atljonesbro
06-07-2014, 06:47 PM
By cramp up I meant have your game cramped up so that it forces you to not win the finals.
Jordan's record before Pippen: 108-138

Dbrog
06-07-2014, 06:48 PM
Perfect time for this thread! Respect :applause: :applause: :applause: :bowdown:

Legends66NBA7
06-07-2014, 06:56 PM
The why did Larry Bird regress thread inspired me to make this one, didn't you catch the similar thread title?

I caught it too and it's equally agenda driven. I don't see point in making bait and react threads, because there's nothing to be discussed that hasn't already been discussed in other threads concerning the topic. This thread isn't even really about the topic, just masked.

Carry on, though. It's your thread.

Soundwave
06-07-2014, 06:59 PM
90s basketball especially in the playoffs was much more defence oriented and he was considerably older by that time, his game was more perimeter oriented by that stage, a long jump shot is simply a lower percentage shot than a dunk/layup in most cases.

Jordan may have had a few poor shooting series' here and now but those were definitely rare anyway, even if he had a few series where his shooting percentage was down.

Look at Scottie Pippen's shooting % in the second threepeat, this is for the *entire* playoffs too:

95-96: 39%
96-97: 41.7%
97-98: 41.5%

Scottie Pippen never shot over 42% in any of the Bulls second threepeat playoff runs, lol.

MJ did come up huge for the Bulls in both the Jazz Finals, only a idiot would claim otherwise ... the Sonics Finals I thought was his only weak Finals, but he really once the Bulls got up 3-0, it was also the one that was least in doubt from the get go and didn't require any special heroics.

julizaver
06-08-2014, 01:48 AM
90s basketball especially in the playoffs was much more defence oriented and he was considerably older by that time, his game was more perimeter oriented by that stage, a long jump shot is simply a lower percentage shot than a dunk/layup in most cases.

Jordan may have had a few poor shooting series' here and now but those were definitely rare anyway, even if he had a few series where his shooting percentage was down.

MJ did come up huge for the Bulls in both the Jazz Finals, only a idiot would claim otherwise ... the Sonics Finals I thought was his only weak Finals, but he really once the Bulls got up 3-0, it was also the one that was least in doubt from the get go and didn't require any special heroics.

I have watched both 3peats and could confirm - during his 1st 3peat (91-93) Jordan was at his prime - he was still at his athletic peak but has mature more as a player - he put up insane finals numbers. And that's where he earned his GOAT reputation.

After almost 2 years absence from basketball Jordan appears a little bit slower and out of shape (comeback at 32 years in 1995). He had no sufficient time to prepare for the upcoming postseason and that's why Bulls lost to Magic.

However he was determined and make a formidable comeback next year (after spending the summer training). So although not as spectacular as prior to 1993 he succeed to regain his form and status as best player in the league. Which is what we should give credit for.

Collie
06-08-2014, 04:33 AM
Almost everybody shot like shit back then because of the ultra physical defense. I mean, Pippen shot 34% in 96. 34%! In 97, MJ shot 45%, which was even higher than Karl Malone (44%).

MiseryCityTexas
06-08-2014, 04:46 AM
Sonics exposed Jordan the most during the second three peat. Jordan put up some shitty shooting percentages in that series.

bdreason
06-08-2014, 04:46 AM
6 Finals. 6 Finals MVP's.


The game isn't played on paper.

MiseryCityTexas
06-08-2014, 06:34 AM
Almost everybody shot like shit back then because of the ultra physical defense. I mean, Pippen shot 34% in 96. 34%! In 97, MJ shot 45%, which was even higher than Karl Malone (44%).


I kinda hated watching the NBA in the mid to late 90s (96-1999) because of all the tough defense being played and all the illegal defensive calls. The game was a lot more fun to watch in the 80s and early 90s, because they still put up efficient numbers while still playing tough defense. NBA competetition went down in the mid 90s in comparison also.

ArbitraryWater
06-08-2014, 06:35 AM
6 Finals. 6 Finals MVP's.


The game isn't played on paper.

You don't just simply state finals mvp's... what you're doing is far worse than naming stats, at least I somewhat get a picture of what he did.

Goddamn you're becoming one of the worst posters on this board :facepalm

ImKobe
06-08-2014, 06:59 AM
Because in the regular season you face a lot of bad teams and teams that simply have no answer for MJ. In the Playoffs, you're only going to face up to 4 teams, and usually they are much better than your average regular season opponent. Plus, you go into the Playoffs after playing a full NBA season, you're not going to be as fresh unless your coach plays you limited minutes (like Pop does to the Spurs big 3) and you have a stacked roster.

MJ was less consistent during the 2nd 3-peat due to his age, simple as that.

kurple
06-08-2014, 08:55 AM
96 Season: 50 FG%
Finals vs Seattle: 42 FG%

97 Season: 49 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 46 FG%

98 Season: 47 FG%
Finals vs Utah: 43 FG%

I thought the dude was a God?:confusedshrug:
how many of tthose finals did he not win or didnt get the finals MVP?

ArbitraryWater
06-08-2014, 09:03 AM
how many of tthose finals did he not win or didnt get the finals MVP?

Oh no, LETS IGNORE PLAY AND GO STRAIGHT TO ACCOLADES!!!!


:facepalm

da nikka kurple hella retarded

GimmeThat
06-08-2014, 09:12 AM
Dennis Rodman took away his Godliness the same way Scottie Pippen did

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:18 AM
I just read some book before that it has something to do with the 1996 draft.. If I remember in that book Jordan saw a kid in that draft that has a potential to dethrone him and that made him worry all years in his 2nd 3peat run and that book also said that that kid was the reason why Jordan struggle a lot in his 2nd 3peat because he see himself in that Kid but better/upgraded version..

kurple
06-08-2014, 09:23 AM
Oh no, LETS IGNORE PLAY AND GO STRAIGHT TO ACCOLADES!!!!


:facepalm

da nikka kurple hella retarded
sports is about winning. not FG%

Dragonyeuw
06-08-2014, 09:24 AM
I just read some book before that it has something to do with the 1996 draft.. If I remember in that book Jordan saw a kid in that draft that has a potential to dethrone him and that made him worry all years in his 2nd 3peat run and that book also said that that kid was the reason why Jordan struggle a lot in his 2nd 3peat because he see himself in that Kid but better/upgraded version..

Haven't seen you around lately, and it shows. Your trolling is a bit rusty....keep at it and you'll round into midseason form before long.

kurple
06-08-2014, 09:24 AM
I just read some book before that it has something to do with the 1996 draft.. If I remember in that book Jordan saw a kid in that draft that has a potential to dethrone him and that made him worry all years in his 2nd 3peat run and that book also said that that kid was the reason why Jordan struggle a lot in his 2nd 3peat because he see himself in that Kid but better/upgraded version..
i think i read the same book

i loved the chapter about KOBE143 being a phagot

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:34 AM
Haven't seen you around lately, and it shows. Your trolling is a bit rusty....keep at it and you'll round into midseason form before long.
Forgive me :(

Im still recovering from injury and will be back in form even better next season.. Just wait and see.. :D

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:35 AM
i think i read the same book

i loved the chapter about KOBE143 being a phagot
That's not the same book :(

red1
06-08-2014, 09:36 AM
I just read some book before that it has something to do with the 1996 draft.. If I remember in that book Jordan saw a kid in that draft that has a potential to dethrone him and that made him worry all years in his 2nd 3peat run and that book also said that that kid was the reason why Jordan struggle a lot in his 2nd 3peat because he see himself in that Kid but better/upgraded version..
miserable troll failure 0/10

Dragonyeuw
06-08-2014, 09:36 AM
Forgive me :(

Im still recovering from injury and will be back in form even better next season.. Just wait and see.. :D

Thats cool, the board has since moved on in your absence. :cheers:

In the meantime, the visual equivalent of your last effort:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3692973/kobefail.gif

red1
06-08-2014, 09:39 AM
That's not the same book :(
is this what you've been reading?

http://www.parkwestpubs.com/images/books/1861056222.jpg

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:41 AM
miserable troll failure 0/10
I been miserable since Kobe injury.. I feel like theres no reason for me to live since that happen.. I dont feel his holy guidance and presence anymore.. :(

red1
06-08-2014, 09:46 AM
I been miserable since Kobe injury.. I feel like theres no reason for me to live since that happen.. I dont feel his holy guidance and presence anymore.. :(
I'm sorry to hear that bro. Embrace the true savior and let him heal your soul



http://basketfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jlkqyGS.png

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:47 AM
Thats cool, the board has since moved on in your absence. :cheers:

In the meantime, the visual equivalent of your last effort:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3692973/kobefail.gif
pls remove that GIF.. I dont want to see Kobe struggling.. It makes my heart ache..

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:49 AM
I'm sorry to hear that bro. Embrace the true savior and let him heal your soul



http://basketfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jlkqyGS.png
LOL that's LeBron savior..

Dragonyeuw
06-08-2014, 09:49 AM
I'm sorry to hear that bro. Embrace the true savior and let him heal your soul



http://basketfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jlkqyGS.png

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2808499/allen3.gif

red1
06-08-2014, 09:50 AM
LOL that's LeBron savior..
kobe is a rapist

KOBE143
06-08-2014, 09:54 AM
kobe is a rapist
You're really red1.. I thought you already forget that one..

Im glad ISH still the same..

red1
06-08-2014, 09:54 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2808499/allen3.gif
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/148165665-ray-allen-smiles-during-a-press-conference-gettyimages.jpghttp://www.nba.com/celtics/photos/ray_portrait_2011allstar700300.jpg

DJ Leon Smith
06-08-2014, 02:20 PM
Why did LeBron regress so much (on a NBA historical level in terms of less PPG compared to regular season to NBA Finals) in 2011 in his first no-peat?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2011_finals.html

http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/81727754-jason-terry.jpg

bdreason
06-08-2014, 03:01 PM
You don't just simply state finals mvp's... what you're doing is far worse than naming stats, at least I somewhat get a picture of what he did.

Goddamn you're becoming one of the worst posters on this board :facepalm


MJ was the best player in every Finals he appeared in... and his team won every series. What else is there to talk about? I don't care if he shot 30% from the field... he was the best player on the court, and more importantly, his team won.