Trayvon Martin - A closer look

[ArbitraryWater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBt5Q3tCUbc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTEfu7DIhiw

Great perspective... must watch

[ace23]

Cliffs? I don't care about this ngga enough to watch the whole vids

[ArbitraryWater]

Cliffs? I don't care about this ngga enough to watch the whole vids

You should... whats your stance on the situation? It may be changed or at least altered..

[nathanjizzle]

a closer look? dude instigated the fight with trayvon, and when he was getting his shit handed to him as he should, he shot the kid.

in america, you can start fights with people and you can shoot them dead if they are whoopin your ass.

[DonDadda59]

I'm confused... so Trayvon writing graffiti on a locker and having an empty weed baggie means he was a violent criminal who instigated the fight and deserved to be shot through the heart... But Zim's History of actual violence before and after (how many different people have accused him of assault & threats with a gun since the trial?) says what exactly?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-wife-911-tape-scared/story?id=20203329

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-violence/

And then you have his best friend and most ardent public supporter saying this now:

[INDENT]Former friend, supporter of George Zimmerman has change of heart

A man who once called George Zimmerman a friend, speaking out in support of him before and during his lengthy trial, now says he

[gigantes]

whats your stance on the situation? It may be changed or at least altered..
from what i know about martin, he was a little wild like many of his peers, but was basically just an average kid. some of his friends and teachers said he had a sweet nature, but i have no idea of course.


from what i know about zimmerman, he's just not all there. he has shown consistently erratic behavior ever since becoming an adult, which is when we generally start judging a person. i don't think he has a bad heart, and he generally seems pretty easygoing, but when he f-cks up he REALLY f-cks up.

if it wasn't for him being a gun nut in a country that celebrates violence (funding his defense), i think he'd likely be in prison right now for a variety of possible causes.


problem?

[ArbitraryWater]

Right... So he was suspended 3 times from school, wears hoodies, was violent against teachers, and everything else confirmed him being violent, yet the black dudes up in this bish still make excuses for him :lol

no nathan jizzle, there is no evidence to zimmerman just starting shit out of nowhere.

[gigantes]

Right... So he was suspended 3 times from school, wears hoodies, was violent against teachers, and everything else confirmed him being violent, yet the black dudes up in this bish still make excuses for him :lol
i'm half-peruvian / half-american... grew up most of my life in the states, just like zimmerman. the very first thing i did is to feel like he was probably right.


IME martin was about as average as they come for his demographic and area. what you said about him can be said about millions of kids here. but you would know that if you weren't pulling stuff out of... berlin, germany?

[ace23]

Right... So he was suspended 3 times from school, wears hoodies, was violent against teachers, and everything else confirmed him being violent, yet the black dudes up in this bish still make excuses for him :lol

no nathan jizzle, there is no evidence to zimmerman just starting shit out of nowhere.
:biggums:

Does he breathe air too?

Not anymore lol

[DonDadda59]

Right... So he was suspended 3 times from school, wears hoodies, was violent against teachers, and everything else confirmed him being violent, yet the black dudes up in this bish still make excuses for him :lol

no nathan jizzle, there is no evidence to zimmerman just starting shit out of nowhere.

:eek:

I mean I thought Zimmerman having at least 3 domestic violence incidents on his record, including 2 immediately following his acquittal on murder charges where he attacked his wife and assaulted her father and also trashed his girlfriend's house after threatening her with a double-barreled shotgun was bad (we'll just conveniently forget he attacked a federal officer unprovoked for now) but...

At least he wasn't wearing a hoodie.

Thank Heaven he wasn't wearing a hoodie.

[Pointguard]

Right... So he was suspended 3 times from school, wears hoodies, was violent against teachers, and everything else confirmed him being violent, yet the black dudes up in this bish still make excuses for him :lol

no nathan jizzle, there is no evidence to zimmerman just starting shit out of nowhere.
Trayvon wasn't doing anything and was pursued with a gun. You got a different story? You got evidence of a different story?

Show me somebody who has made an excuse for him? Who has a more violent history? Who carries a gun after having attacked the police? Who bullied and has claims of molested his cousin? Hit his finance? Threatened his father-in-law with a gun? Lost his security job for being too aggressive? Who got arrested more? Who killed an innocent boy for walking in the rain? And somebody else is making excuses.

[ArbitraryWater]

i'm half-peruvian / half-american... grew up most of my life in the states, just like zimmerman. the very first thing i did is to feel like he was probably right.


IME martin was about as average as they come for his demographic and area. what you said about him can be said about millions of kids here. but you would know that if you weren't pulling stuff out of... berlin, germany?

what?

[ArbitraryWater]

da ***** trayvon a thuggg

[gigantes]

well i was going to say "your ass," but i realised that if you're really living in berlin then how the hell would you know what is average and what is true thug in the states?

[ArbitraryWater]

well i was going to say "your ass," but i realised that if you're really living in berlin then how the hell would you know what is average and what is true thug in the states?

It really doesnt matter how it is "in the states".. I for my can tell what a thug is or not. Im assuming he was one, given some of the evidence i saw and heard of.. its really all in the video, fluff.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Well someone had to make sure the hoodie law was being enforced.

[gigantes]

It really doesnt matter how it is "in the states".. I for my can tell what a thug is or not. Im assuming he was one, given some of the evidence i saw and heard of.. its really all in the video, fluff.
oh... i see, master, i see.

well, please ignore my ignorant comments, then. i would still be interested to see how you respond to the other posts above. so far you seem to have completely ignored them. or were your responses sent via telepathy?

[ArbitraryWater]

Well what can I say to the others:

Okay we got don dadda puling up quotes from a "friend" of zimmerman?

Like really, his opinion suddenly changed? And you want to tell me there was no money behind that? :lol

And Zimmerman's track record... not saying the guy is a saint, all im saying is, trayvon was not a good kid.. then he ran around in a hoodie, 6'2, and most likely tried to bully george.. thats what i get from it. Zimmerman used his gun as defense. And in the video, if you watched it, the stuff the parents&uncle and what not said came across VERY suspicious and fishy.

[Real Men Wear Green]

oh... i see, master, i see.

well, please ignore my ignorant comments, then. i would still be interested to see how you respond to the other posts above. so far you seem to have completely ignored them. or were your responses sent via telepathy?
Hey, all know thug behavior. Threatening girlfriends, getting arrested, killing people...oh wait, I was talking about Zimmerman. My bad.

[ArbitraryWater]

Hey, all know thug behavior. Threatening girlfriends, getting arrested, killing people...oh wait, I was talking about Zimmerman. My bad.

Violence against teachers? 3 suspensions? behaviour so bad at 17 that people call the police on your ass?

[ace23]

I hope OP is trolling. We are aware that he was 6'2, black, and wore a hoodie. These facts do not imply that he was a criminal. Are you ok?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Violence against teachers? 3 suspensions? behaviour so bad at 17 that people call the police on your ass?
Much worse than domestic violence and killing a teenager, I'm sure.

[ArbitraryWater]

I hope OP is trolling. We are aware that he was 6'2, black, and wore a hoodie. These facts do not imply that he was a criminal. Are you ok?

Who says he's a criminal? He looked to be on his way to becoming one thats for sure.

[ace23]

Who says he's a criminal?
So in your eyes, he was a law-abiding "thug".

[Kungfro]

:biggums:

Does he breathe air too?

Not anymore lol

He's Just standing There... Menacingly! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPmzRa-sXQs)

[Akrazotile]

I'm confused... so Trayvon writing graffiti on a locker and having an empty weed baggie means he was a violent criminal who instigated the fight and deserved to be shot through the heart... But Zim's History of actual violence before and after (how many different people have accused him of assault & threats with a gun since the trial?) says what exactly?


Bro, they're both ne'er-do-wells. Both made stupid decisions, both were looking for trouble, and one of them died.

The ONLY reason black people care is because the victim was black and the shooter wasn't. Which is extremely rare, but clearly affects blacks in a way that the murder of anyone else would not.

People are murdered in this country every day, and usually the reason is not "fair". So why does this case have ANY special significance? Are we saying a black victim is more 'innocent' than victims of others races? Or that a random murder against a black person is more 'racially motivated' than all the black murders against other races?

The obvious motive of anyone who is more outraged about this than the murders that happen on a daily basis can only be reasoned to being RACISM. But, you know, that's ok. Because, as we all know, blacks are allowed to be racists, and white aren't. This, according to white liberals.



I read an interesting quote the other day from some blog: "white people don't like talking about black people, they like talking about how much they hate other white people."

This is a pretty bizarre phenomenon if you think about it. The soft white crowd, feels scared and intimidated that they might be labeled or scorned if they speak out about black transgressions. But they feel like they'll be lauded and applauded if they cry out 'blame whitey!' It's a cultural conditioning which sadly the softer, more pathetic section of the white demographic is caught up in.


Nobody should feel compelled to apologize on behalf of George Zimmerman. Not whites, not hispanics, not nobody. He is an individual, who killed another individual, and that's that. Happens every day.

[Akrazotile]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]
[B][COLOR="Red"]"What I know of George and his tendencies and also my opinion is that he racially profiled Trayvon Martin that night because if that had been a white kid on a cell phone, walking through our neighborhood, he wouldn

[Akrazotile]

The people who are crying out 'he was profiled!' have really lost the plot.

Every single one of you internally profiles every stranger you see, all the time. But you are not being paid to hold watch over a neighborhood that has recently had a string of break ins. So your internal profiles usually do not lead to any sort of confrontation.


The fact that 'someone profiled trayvon' is completely immaterial and not a reality any amount of crying can change. Trayvon got profiled every time a person looked at him, just like I do, just like you do. It is what it is. Tray and Zim were both knuckleheads who both made one mistake after another, and the fact that the one who ended up dead is black is not any 'more' tragic than the murders that happen every day in this country. Deal with it.

[DonDadda59]

Bro, they're both ne'er-do-wells.

One had a History of maybe smoking weed and writing on his school locker, the other one had a History of violent outbursts (attacked a federal agent in an unprovoked attack, restraining order filed by his ex fiance, road rage incidents, etc). Then after the latter is acquitted of murder, he promptly attacks his wife (now ex-wife) and assaults her father, then goes on a shotgun-toting rampage at his girlfriend's house.

But the hoodie is key here. Let's not lose sight of that. Good thing the OP made us take a closer look at that fact. :cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

But the hoodie is key here. Let's not lose sight of that. Good thing the OP made us take a closer look at that fact. :cheers:

It's not key, lol.. Im just saying, if you wear a hoodie, expext people to categorize you..

[Rasheed1]

People are murdered in this country every day, and usually the reason is not "fair". So why does this case have ANY special significance? Are we saying a black victim is more 'innocent' than victims of others races? Or that a random murder against a black person is more 'racially motivated' than all the black murders against other races?


Your logic is ass backwards.. The significance rest in the fact that it took the media and a mass campaign to even get Zimmerman in custody for shooting the kid...

people are indeed murdered everyday in this country.. When the killer is found? he is usually taken into custody without a mass campaign needing to be launched in order to force the police to do their jobs and thoroughly investigate the situation..

You need to step your troll game up because your logic is ass, and not hard to see through

[Akrazotile]

One had a History of maybe smoking weed and writing on his school locker, the other one had a History of violent outbursts (attacked a federal agent in an unprovoked attack, restraining order filed by his ex fiance, road rage incidents, etc).

From my understanding of it, and I didn't follow this thing too closely because I really didn't GAF, but I'm pretty sure it was confirmed Martin was frequently involved in fights, talked about wanting to 'make people bleed' and was just in general a pretty worthless individual. I mean you can believe multiple things here, one being that it's tragic that he was KILLED, the other being that he was still a pretty scummy and worthless kid, likely to end up being a menace all his life. Obviously just by virtue of having tv/internet I heard tons of the coverage, and so I'm aware of pretty much all the bad things about Zim which his detractors pointed out, and all the bad things about Martin, which his detractors pointed out.

There were no eye witnesses to the confrontation if I recall correctly, so nobody knows what really happened. But if the evidence supports the idea that Martin attacked Zimmerman physically, and the law states that you allowed to use a weapon if you're physically assaulted... then Zimmerman didn't break any laws, and that's why he was acquitted. The rest of his history and personal life is immaterial. Same with OJ's history of domestic violence. If the evidence isn't there, you have to let the guy go. Regardless of whether hes' black, white, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, american indian/alaskan native, or any other box on the census form.

I don't know why OP is postin trayvon lifestyle update tho, I'm pretty sure everyone is already aware of what both of the guys involved were like in a general sense. Martin was definitely portrayed in the immediate aftermath as some sweet, baby-faced young highschool kid with his whole life ahead of him. But eventually a more realistic picture did emerge.

[Akrazotile]

Your logic is ass backwards.. The significance rest in the fact that it took the media and a mass campaign to even get Zimmerman in custody for shooting the kid...

people are indeed murdered everyday in this country.. When the killer is found? he is usually taken into custody without a mass campaign needing to be launched in order to force the police to do their jobs and thoroughly investigate the situation..

You need to step your troll game up because your logic is ass, and not hard to see through


Why would Zimmerman be brought into custody when he didn't break any laws? The legal process eventually bore that very conclusion out, and the only reason he WAS brought into custody despite not having broken a law, is because of the 'that's racist!' media backlash.


Your premise is false, and your agenda is clear. As usual. :confusedshrug:

[DonDadda59]

It's not key, lol.. Im just saying, if you wear a hoodie, expext people to categorize you..

Fair enough. But if I see this lil wigga walking home from the store and I start following him around in my car, jump out to chase him through the streets, try to detain him and when he tries to defend himself I put a bullet in his heart...

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4114775/teenage_boy_in_a_hoodie_IE374-038.jpg

I don't wanna hear no back talk from you.

Just look at him. He's probably smoked weed before and maybe wrote on his locker at school. Killing him would be fair.

[ArbitraryWater]

Fair enough. But if I see this lil wigga walking home from the store and I start following him around in my car, jump out to chase him through the streets, try to detain him and when he tries to defend himself I put a bullet in his heart...

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4114775/teenage_boy_in_a_hoodie_IE374-038.jpg

I don't wanna hear no back talk from you.

Just look at him. He's probably smoked weed before and maybe wrote on his locker at school. Killing him would be fair.

He looks harmless...

I swear I'm not racist, I have black friends and I love blacks.. that sounds wierd lol. But "they" look in general more dangerous imo.. especially with a hoody on

[DonDadda59]

He looks harmless...

I swear I'm not racist, I have black friends and I love blacks.. that sounds wierd lol. But "they" look in general more dangerous imo.. especially with a hoody on

The old I'm not racist I have Black friends routine.

http://www.moviehoodtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/EdLover-CMonSon-Ep16.jpg

Get more creative.

[ArbitraryWater]

The old I'm not racist I have Black friends routine.

http://www.moviehoodtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/EdLover-CMonSon-Ep16.jpg

Get more creative.

How many times you going to post that "Cmon Son" Pic? :lol

You're black, I got no problems with you.. lol, honestly, both are assholes.. I just thought it was unfair to present trayvon as some innocent little cute kid.. You could put Zimmerman in jail :confusedshrug: Not racist..







http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/14/article-0-1ACDB54B000005DC-187_634x632.jpg

smhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh #stopwhites (shit is that racist doe?)

[stalkerforlife]

lol...

I got banned for refusing to worship Bron.

But this thread is acceptable.

(By the way, I accept all threads and all opinions)

[Done_And_Done]

Dude @ 1:29 in the first clip looks like an aged OJ Mayo

[Rasheed1]

Why would Zimmerman be brought into custody when he didn't break any laws? The legal process eventually bore that very conclusion out, and the only reason he WAS brought into custody despite not having broken a law, is because of the 'that's racist!' media backlash.


Your premise is false, and your agenda is clear. As usual. :confusedshrug:


Your victimhood skirt is up like marilyn monroe again star face… :lol

They let zimmerman walk out of police station on his own word without verifying the facts of the case…

there wouldn't have been such a fire storm if the police had originally done there jobs as they supposed to..

The idea of racism comes from the obvious facts of how the case was treated up to the point where the media and public demanded that the police at least investigate the incident.. Whether zimmerman was found not guilty or guilty has no bearing on the fact that the police failed to do their jobs when the incident first occurred..

like I said… retire and do yourself (and the board a favor)..

[russwest0]

Fair enough. But if I see this lil wigga walking home from the store and I start following him around in my car, jump out to chase him through the streets, try to detain him and when he tries to defend himself I put a bullet in his heart...

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4114775/teenage_boy_in_a_hoodie_IE374-038.jpg

I don't wanna hear no back talk from you.

Just look at him. He's probably smoked weed before and maybe wrote on his locker at school. Killing him would be fair.

kill the stupid ****. I'm white and you think I care?

[CelticBaller]

Smokes pot = thug
:applause:

[NuggetsFan]

Fair enough. But if I see this lil wigga walking home from the store and I start following him around in my car, jump out to chase him through the streets, try to detain him and when he tries to defend himself I put a bullet in his heart...

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4114775/teenage_boy_in_a_hoodie_IE374-038.jpg

I don't wanna hear no back talk from you.

Just look at him. He's probably smoked weed before and maybe wrote on his locker at school. Killing him would be fair.

http://lakesideconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/serious-hispanic-guy-hat-300x200.jpg

I think that's what your going for. Zimmerman was Hispanic wasn't he? Or atleast half.

[johndeeregreen]

It's just too bad black people don't feel as passionately about not killing each other as they do about Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.

[Patrick Chewing]

Your logic is ass backwards.. The significance rest in the fact that it took the media and a mass campaign to even get Zimmerman in custody for shooting the kid...




There was a reason he was not arrested. Police solved that case in the first 48 and Zimmerman was in the right. What happened later was a witch hunt that wasted a lot of taxpayer money to only find out what we already knew, that he was innocent.

[russwest0]

http://lakesideconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/serious-hispanic-guy-hat-300x200.jpg

I think that's what your going for. Zimmerman was Hispanic wasn't he? Or atleast half.

lol that kid looks like a fakkit, kill him for all I care. especially if he attacks you and is slamming your skull into concrete.

why are so many black people so sensitive to information without even fact searching and sitting down and thinking logically about shit first.

thats playing the victim card 101. and the media promotes this behavior :facepalm

[travelingman]

I haven't read about the Zimmerman case in a while, but while I was immersed in what seemed like every bit of detail I could find on the killing of Trayvon Martin, I kept arriving at the conclusion that we simply didn't know enough about the case to understand just what happened that night. I think all of this character-delving that both general sides seem to bury themselves in is mostly pointless and an attempt at character assassination. Whether you think GZ was a power-hungry racist or TM was a no-good thug, you should only consider what happened that night that TM was killed. If you are reverting back to a person's past history of faults, you are reaching and simply trying to fill in the gaps that are apparent in our understanding of that night's events (which should remain as gaps until we gather more relevant information...if we do, that is). Then there are people who keep bringing up that he was wearing a hoodie...well, to my understanding, he was walking outside while it was raining, so those jackasses can shut the hell up with their BS...then others quickly jump to the conclusion that this whole thing was racially-motivated. That, like I just said, is a leap that we really cannot prove. It seems like their best shot at pinning him as a racist is constructed on Zimmerman's quote that contained the words "punks" and "assholes." That simply doesn't provide enough information to suggest racially-motivated behavior. I believe both sides were quick to jump to conclusions and prove that their argument was correct. I think this whole debate has been further made ugly by people who are prejudiced against black people jumping on the GZ bandwagon and people who are prejudiced against older white people (even though he's also part Hispanic to my understanding). Anyway, just my take.

[YouGotServed]

Black people need to get over it. Guy was an anti-social thug and got what he deserved. Deal with it.

[Akrazotile]

Seriously. In fact when I got a DUI at 20 years old I guarantee you I was profiled. I was driving home from a house party at like 3 in the am and even though I was actually the DD that night I had a few cups from the keg but wasn't remotely intoxicated (for serious) and I'm just drivin in the left lane and the guy in front of me is going super slow so I pull around him and pass him, I look over to see WTF and notice it's an undercover cop, he immediately pulls me over, probably taking note of the fact that I was a 20 year old kid - wearing a hoodie (though the hood wasnt up) - and driving around at the 3 am. He pulled me over for going 10 mphs over the limit :facepalm which I was only doing to PASS him driving all slow in the left lane which is actually against the etiquitte of the road.


I passed all the field tests and he still arrested me. Funniest part is I actually was so pissed off bout it afterward I looked up his phone number and left him like two messages just completely ripping into him for pulling me over for bullshit reasons then flunking me on teh field tests when he knew I passed. I was calling him an asshole and a liar and disgrace to the badge :oldlol:. Btw I wasn't drunk at all, the dude popped me for the "zero tolerance under 21" policy because I was 20 and had trace alcohol in my system. Anyhow the officer reported it to the judge that I had called his home :lol and at my hearing the judge was just like :milton You were harrassing an officer at his home?? And he was like 'I'm this close to screwing you over big time...' but he ultimately gave me the typical first-offender reduced sentence.


A couple months later I ran into the cop at the college I was going to, he was doing some kind of security and I made a snyde comment to him under my breath and he confronts me and was literally red-eyed and tearing up, and he was like "I made a mistake ok!? You know why the judge didn't **** you over, becuase I told him not to!!! He wanted to give you the max sentence for calling my house, and I told him to just forget about it! So just let it go, please!!!!"

I was like 'Ehh, alright man, whatever.' But in my head I was like "holy fukc this cop is literally crying like a bitch cause I kept making fun of him." :roll:


I dunno, first time I've thought about that in a while. Shit was a trip for real doe. I miss the old days. :(


edit: Oh yeah and you shoulda seen my mugshot. I had forgotten all about it and then after my hearing as we were all gettin ready to leave my lawyer pulls me aside and opens a folder and theres a picture of me at the jail with this huge sarcastic grin and holding up a big thumbs up for the mugshot :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: ohhhh fukc man i need to get a copy of that somehow. Shit was so priceless. Can't believe what a little fukc I was back then. If that happened to me today I'd prob be crying.

[Akrazotile]

^ Btw the point is that I got profiled too, but I didn't attack the dude like a maniac when he pulled me over.


In fact, there are tons of cases where a white officer shoots or fatally tases a white suspect who is assaulting him belligerently. That's the fukcin reality. You go swingin at someone with a gun, and you're rollin the dice big time.

Unfortunately for trayvon, shit came up snake eyes.

[KevinNYC]

trayvon was not a good kid.. then he ran around in a hoodie, 6'2, and most likely tried to bully george.

There's a lot we don't know about from that night. There are also however, indisputable facts. One of these is Trayvon Martin was not over six feet tall.

If you are taking "a closer look" at this case and you're getting the proveable facts wrong, you have an agenda and it's not the truth.

Martin was weighed and measured as part of autopsy.

He was 5'11" and 158 lbs.

Zimmerman was an inch and a half shorter and 46 pounds heavier.

[gigantes]

that's the thing about hoodies-- they commonly add three inches, 50 lbs and cast the outline of a loaded handgun.


this nation is being torn apart by hoodies, but it seems that terrible news is finally reaching europe. phew!

[masonanddixon]

Americans are approaching it the wrong way.

This is about one low IQ retard getting into a quarrel with another low IQ retard.

But of course the liberal media finds it its duty to inject race and racism into a matter that has nothing to do with either element.

[qrich]

Trayvon was a teenager that had gotten into trouble? Is that all the video is about? Nothing new there, in the slightest.

Bottom line remains is both were in the wrong on that night, and no one will know how the violent confrontation started. A jury determined that Zimmerman wasn't guilty of murder and that is all there is to say about it, really.

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]
They let zimmerman walk out of police station on his own word without verifying the facts of the case

[ArbitraryWater]

:biggums: :rolleyes:

Basically: Not racist.. :cheers:

[Rocketswin2013]

Right... So he was suspended 3 times from school, wears hoodies, was violent against teachers, and everything else confirmed him being violent, yet the black dudes up in this bish still make excuses for him :lol

no nathan jizzle, there is no evidence to zimmerman just starting shit out of nowhere.
................................

[gigantes]

got any sisters homie?
but i was gonna ask you!!

[johndeeregreen]

but i was gonna ask you!!
Why the Gagarin avatar?

[TheReal Kendall]

Why are y'all still talking about this?

[gigantes]

Why the Gagarin avatar?
many reasons.

[Orlando Magic]

My favorite part about this story is the fact that Trayvon made it home after being followed by Zimmerman, then Trayvon went back out to confront Zimmerman. Of course, this is almost entirely overlooked by every news agency reporting the story, but hey... whatever sells, right?

My take is this... Zimmerman is probably a racist, Zimmerman had no business pursuing Trayvon to the extent that he did especially when the dispatch operator basically told him that the authorities didn't need him to follow Trayvon... but at the end of the day, all we can say for sure is that Zimmerman was following him, there is no evidence that he intended to stared a fight let alone have that lead to someone's death. There is evidence, however, that Trayvon verbally expressed the need to go confront Zimmerman physically, and he did as much... and he lost his life as a result.

We can play the "well if this guy didn't do this or that guy didn't do that" game all day... but the reality is Trayvon started the physical altercation, and he wasn't scared because he wouldn't have left his house if he were. End of story.

[ROCSteady]

Ppl still talkin about this? That dead horse is pulp mush as it is

[Rasheed1]

So why was there no firestorm for Daniel Adkins? His shooter wasn't even taking down to the station and was released from the scene of the crime?


:roll: You pull this one incident out of your ass every time

[qrich]

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]:roll: You pull this one incident out of your ass every time

[Raymone]

http://i.imgur.com/qmHksZ8.jpg

[Rasheed1]

So there is no idea of racism in that case, but there is in this one.

Okay got it!

No, you don't "got it" :lol

I never said anything like that

[qrich]

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]No, you don't "got it" :lol

I never said anything like that

[Rasheed1]

So, what are you saying? Both were racist, or neither were? I mean, how does deserve a firestorm, but not the other, again?


Im saying that the media and public pressure made the police do their jobs.. the media (specifically black journalists) talked about the incident until the mainstream media picked it up.. The history of racism in America made it an easy story for the media cover.. Thus it became a nation wide story..

That has no bearing on the adkins story.. I'm not saying racism wasn't present in the adkins story… (It very well could have been)

Im not saying one deserved a firestorm and the other didn't.. Im saying one got a firestorm and the other didn't.. and there is your difference

Im saying public pressure made the police do their job in the trayvon situation..

I wish there was a big outcry when the adkins murder happened.. then, his killer would have gone to jail and to trial also (like he should have)..

The difference is the pressure put on the police to fully investigate..




And incorrect, again. I followed the Adkins case as much as I followed the Zimmerman trial, the Anthony trial, the Dunn trial and the Arias trial.

Ok :cheers:

[gigantes]

so, heres one hilarious pastime in life:

applying simple (borderline nonsensical) solutions to this complicated life, sitting back and watching an overload of lemmings agree with me on one hand, meanwhile watching people who actually care about the issue tearing themselves up upon the shoals of stupidity and ignorance.

i mean, good formula, no? :cheers:

YES!!

[dude77]

tray tray was your typical little tough guy .. you wanna be a tough guy and attack people .. don't fkn complain if you're shot or knocked the fk out in the process

[longtime lurker]

Why are y'all still talking about this?

Cuz white people won't be satisfied until Trayvon is viewed as a bigger villain than Elliot Rodger. Yall won, Zimmerman was acquitted and another black kid is dead, parents lost a child, whats the point in trying to turn the kid that's dead into a villain.

[dude77]

I read an interesting quote the other day from some blog: "white people don't like talking about black people, they like talking about how much they hate other white people."

This is a pretty bizarre phenomenon if you think about it. The soft white crowd, feels scared and intimidated that they might be labeled or scorned if they speak out about black transgressions. But they feel like they'll be lauded and applauded if they cry out 'blame whitey!' It's a cultural conditioning which sadly the softer, more pathetic section of the white demographic is caught up in.

hit it on the fkn nail .. you have a bunch of whites who have been completely effeminized and conditioned to be ass kissers .. who would rather cut their balls off before saying anything that 'might' be offensive .. even if it's at the cost of not standing up for themselves .. pretty disgusting to watch really

[MavsSuperFan]

Its reached the point that I wish zim was convicted just so his fans would cry more.

[gigantes]

one is engaged the other is a horrible cvnt
fair enuff. anyway, it's a sausage fest over here.

dad shot out XY's, four tries. blame the ammunition!