much rather see lebron get #3 than duncan get #5

[kennethgriffin]

if spurs win duncans gonna win fmvp... heat have no match for him defensively. they have no real center except greg oden

duncans eating up inside. so heat have to win



and if lebron fans think hes ahead of kobe with 3 rings compared to 5... let them think it. its not like they havent thought lebron is better since he entered the league anyway right ?

duncan is our only real threat in the nba atm


GO HEAT!

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Both are already ahead of Kobe.

[kennethgriffin]

Both are already ahead of Kobe.

at the end of the day as long as i can say

more rings
more 1st teams
more defensive 1st teams


i'm happy

the day someone from after kobes era gets #5. i'l be mad

[Milbuck]

With Lebron playing like this, wouldn't mind him winning again. The dude is just incredible. The only reason I want the Spurs to win is because I bet a friend 200$ on them winning it all.

Well not the only reason actually. I also ****ing hate Mario Chalmers beyond explanation. **** that guy.

[zoom17]

Man both are ahead of him give it up:oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

and the best thing about lebron is all 3 titles came in a sh*t era.

4 of duncans came before the league went soft. another reason kobe fans respect him more than lebron

:bowdown:

[LEFT4DEAD]

Both are already ahead of Kobe.
Easily.

Its somewhat laughable that tonight's Lebron's performance is better than anything Kobe has ever done in any of his finals.

For any unbiased fan Lebron is clearly the better player between the two. It's just people like this retard who think otherwise, nobody else.

[plowking]

What is it with Bron haters and Laker fans constantly making the same thread like 5 or 6 times?

That BigBoss poster has made the 2/5 thread about 8 or 9 times now.

[Mr Exlax]

3 FMVPs are better than 2 FMVPs and 3 second option rings.

[Rocketswin2013]

Kobe fans are hanging on a thread at this point.....I mean wow.

[TylerOO]

aint you already make this thread boy?

stay insecure

[Rocketswin2013]

3 FMVPs is better than 2 FMVPs and 3 second option rings.
/Thread

[kennethgriffin]

Man both are ahead of him give it up:oldlol:



all time record 11 time 1st team all nba

all time record 9 time 1st team all defense

all time record most consecutive allstar games

all time record 12 three pointers in one game

all time record most 50+ win teams beatin in playoffs by a HOF'r ( 24 )

all time record most game winning shots

2nd most points scored in a game

4th all time in regular season points

3rd all time in playoff points

2000 nba champion ( 21/5/5 playoff average )

2001 nba champion ( 30/7/6 playoff average )

2002 nba champion ( 27/6/5 playoff average )

2009 nba champion ( 30/6/5 playoff average )

2010 nba champion ( 30/6/5 playoff average )

2009 nba finals mvp

2010 nba finals mvp

2008 nba mvp

2002 nba allstar game mvp

2007 nba allstar game mvp

2009 nba allstar game mvp

2010 nba allstar game mvp

career 28ppg average as starter ( 25/5/5 career )

4 straight 50 point games

only player to outscore another team by himself

[J Shuttlesworth]

kenneth, I don't give a **** what your reasoning is, but i'm with ya

GO HEAT

[Andrei89]

They are both better than Kobe already.

If any of them wins this year it will only put the further apart from Kobe.

Deal with it, case closed, meeting adjourned and VALAR MOURGHULIS!

[Kblaze8855]

You made this topic like 4 days ago man......

[zoom17]

Kobe fans are hanging on a thread at this point.....I mean wow.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well I dont understand this logic for kobestans. Lebron getting #3 will put him ahead of Kobe, without this ring its unclear whos better so fans can keep arguing. Duncan is already ahead of Kobe anyway, with or without another title, winning another ring just widens the gap between him and Kobe. What would you pick if you are a rational kobe fan?
:lol

[kennethgriffin]

3 FMVPs are better than 2 FMVPs and 3 second option rings.


2 finals mvps and 5 rings > 3 finals mvps and 3 rings



and kobe has 4 first option rings actually

http://i58.tinypic.com/280d4y.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/2sbpcfc.jpg

[J Shuttlesworth]

Well I dont understand this logic for kobestans. Lebron getting #3 will put him ahead of Kobe, without this ring its unclear whos better so fans can keep arguing. Duncan is already ahead of Kobe anyway, with or without another title, winning another ring just widens the gap between him and Kobe. What would you pick if you are a rational kobe fan?
:lol
Hey I thought you said Spurs were winning this by 20? WTF HAPPENED?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Both are better than Kobe already.

That asides, I don't understand how Lakers fans can root for a rival team in the Spurs. They'd rather root against the Heat solely based on the media-hyped Lebron-Kobe "rivalry".

[Threethrows]

At least OP is honest about being insecure with Kobe's legacy :lol

[kennethgriffin]

Well I dont understand this logic for kobestans. Lebron getting #3 will put him ahead of Kobe, without this ring its unclear whos better so fans can keep arguing. Duncan is already ahead of Kobe anyway, with or without another title, winning another ring just widens the gap between him and Kobe. What would you pick if you are a rational kobe fan?
:lol


only in the minds of those who already had lebron ahead of kobe.


if it was just about finals mvps kareem wouldnt even be a top 5 player

its about total rings and bodies of work by legends

the entire resume comes into play. it isnt as singular and black/white as count finals mvps to see rankings

kareem has 6 rings and 2 finals mvps.. hes routinely ranked top 3 all time. theres more to the game. like all nba teams, points, records.

[Kiddlovesnets]

only in the minds of those who already had lebron ahead of kobe.


if it was just about finals mvps kareem wouldnt even be a top 5 player

its about total rings and bodies of work by legends

the entire resume comes into play. it isnt as singular and black/white as count finals mvps to see rankings

kareem has 6 rings and 2 finals mvps.. hes routinely ranked top 3 all time. theres more to the game. like all nba teams, points, records.

I didnt say Lebron is already ahead of Kobe, I said it was debatable and up for the fans own opinion. However, the fact that Duncan is ahead of Kobe is set in stone, with or without another ring. Thats why any realistic Kobestans should root for Duncan instead, you want both Lebron and Duncan to be ahead of Kobe, or just Duncan alone ahead of your idol?
:lol

[kennethgriffin]

I didnt say Lebron is already ahead of Kobe, I said it was debatable and up for the fans own opinion. However, the fact that Duncan is ahead of Kobe is set in stone, with or without another ring. Thats why any realistic Kobestans should root for Duncan instead, you want both Lebron and Duncan to be ahead of Kobe, or just Duncan alone ahead of your idol?
:lol

duncans never voted above kobe in any poll ive seen over the last half decade

[Kiddlovesnets]

duncans never voted above kobe in any poll ive seen over the last half decade

Kobestans can keep dreaming and deluding themselves.
:roll:

[kennethgriffin]

Kobestans can keep dreaming and deluding themselves.
:roll:


to the average citizen tim duncan is a nobody



kobe was the face of the nba for the 2000s


no fans were tuning into spurs games lol... if 2 guys have similar careers and 1 guy is infinitely more popular. he's always gonna win debates

i'm not worried about duncan unless he accomplishes more

so far kobes got the better overall body of work. duncans only advantage is 1 more mvp, 1 more fmvp... kobe has 1 more title and everything else you can possibly imagine

[dtbrehm]

Duncan's already ahead slightly. Lebron will end up ahead with longevity.

[Eye Test]

non can surpass kobe so its all good :applause:

[Mr Exlax]

2 finals mvps and 5 rings > 3 finals mvps and 3 rings



and kobe has 4 first option rings actually

http://i58.tinypic.com/280d4y.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/2sbpcfc.jpg


Shaq scored more points. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the term "plus out" but Shaq did that higher as well.