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Fudge
06-08-2014, 11:32 PM
I must admit.

Guy played like the greatest basketball player of all time today. Respect.

ThatCoolKid
06-08-2014, 11:33 PM
I agree that James is 100x the player Durcant will ever be.

Magic 32
06-08-2014, 11:33 PM
I must admit.

Guy played like the greatest basketball player of all time today. Respect.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130214135224-00-michael-jordan-rodman-pippen-single-image-cut.jpg

J Shuttlesworth
06-08-2014, 11:33 PM
He's up there, but Jordan doe :( :( -

Fudge
06-08-2014, 11:33 PM
I don't know if it's the lines I did earlier that's kicking in right now, but I truly believe this at the moment.

buddha
06-08-2014, 11:34 PM
yall youngins really displaying your ignorance.

stalkerforlife
06-08-2014, 11:35 PM
I don't know if it's the lines I did earlier that's kicking in right now, but I truly believe this at the moment.

:roll:

Black and White
06-08-2014, 11:35 PM
LeBron was amazing today, and will go down as one of the best ever, but can we stop the overreactions?

DonDadda59
06-08-2014, 11:35 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130214135224-00-michael-jordan-rodman-pippen-single-image-cut.jpg

I love Scottie's expression, he's like "Mama, there goes that man".

zoom17
06-08-2014, 11:35 PM
I don't know if it's the lines I did earlier that's kicking in right now, but I truly believe this at the moment.

Save some for me.

inclinerator
06-08-2014, 11:35 PM
spurs >> any team jordon played maybe the sonics are as close

Prometheus
06-08-2014, 11:35 PM
I don't know if it's the lines I did earlier that's kicking in right now, but I truly believe this at the moment.

I shot a couple bags earlier. Jordan still GOAT.

DonDadda59
06-08-2014, 11:37 PM
spurs >> any team jordon played maybe the sonics are as close

Good to see Fudge isn't greedy with the lines. Sharing is caring. :applause:

zoom17
06-08-2014, 11:38 PM
Good to see Fudge isn't greedy with the lines. Sharing is caring. :applause:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lemt4yQV3U1qcfba3o1_500.gif

Derka
06-08-2014, 11:39 PM
Nah.

Fox
06-08-2014, 11:39 PM
Jordan played against frauds.

LeBron is facing proper opponents.

LeBron is indeed the GOAT playoff performer :applause:

CavaliersFTW
06-08-2014, 11:40 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Prometheus
06-08-2014, 11:40 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lemt4yQV3U1qcfba3o1_500.gif

Tyrone doesn't do lines, he smokes rock. There's a big difference.

NumberSix
06-08-2014, 11:40 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130214135224-00-michael-jordan-rodman-pippen-single-image-cut.jpg
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2013/06/lebron-james-block-tiago-splitter-13.jpg

edrick
06-08-2014, 11:40 PM
You all know this is a troll thread, stop.

Magic 32
06-08-2014, 11:40 PM
LeBron is facing proper opponents.




http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tim-Duncan-2.jpg

Fox
06-08-2014, 11:42 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tim-Duncan-2.jpg

Credentials. Next.

Keno
06-08-2014, 11:42 PM
he's 2nd best behind jordan right now. he still can surpass him.

IllegalD
06-08-2014, 11:42 PM
spurs >> any team jordon played maybe the sonics are as close

Bulls*t.

Why? Because they have 4 championships? Yeah...from the LAST ERA. :roll:

Seriously? The greatest team that LeBron has ever beat in his championship run is the geriatric version of "just another team" that Kobe had to get through just to GET to the Finals in the 2000's, with Duncan, Manu, Parker in their young, athletic primes.

Jordan:

Malone/Stockton Jazz, 90's Knicks, Bad Boy Pistons, Payton/Kemp Sonics, Drexler Blazers, Barkley Suns are as good if not better than these Spurs. And with the exception of the Pistons, all the teams and their best player are from the same era as Jordan, not some old-men rivers hanging on for dear life from the previous decade of basketball.

Kobe:

2000s Spurs with prime Big 3, 2010 Celtics, 2000s Kings, 2000 Blazers, 2004 Pistons, Nash/Amare Suns are all as good if not better than these Spurs. And again, not old men led teams carrying over from the previous decade.

Eye Test
06-08-2014, 11:43 PM
lol he is one of the worst drop offs in finals history

inclinerator
06-08-2014, 11:44 PM
Bulls*t.

Why? Because they have 4 championships? Yeah...from the LAST ERA. :roll:

Seriously? The greatest team that LeBron has ever beat in his championship run is the geriatric version of "just another team" that Kobe had to get through just to GET to the Finals in the 2000's, with Duncan, Manu, Parker in their young, athletic primes.

Jordan:

Malone/Stockton Jazz, 90's Knicks, Bad Boy Pistons, Payton/Kemp Sonics, Drexler Blazers, Barkley Suns are as good if not better than these Spurs. And with the exception of the Pistons, all the teams and their best player are from the same era as Jordan, not some old-men rivers hanging on for dear life from the previous decade of basketball.

Kobe:

2000s Spurs with prime Big 3, 2010 Celtics, 2000s Kings, 2000 Blazers, 2004 Pistons, Nash/Amare Suns are all as good if not better than these Spurs. And again, not old men led teams carrying over from the previous decade.
not really, this spurs team is on another level

Dragonyeuw
06-08-2014, 11:45 PM
Oh FFS :facepalm

Fudge
06-08-2014, 11:46 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130214135224-00-michael-jordan-rodman-pippen-single-image-cut.jpg
Awesome block. On Vince Carter too. :bowdown:

Magic 32
06-08-2014, 11:46 PM
Credentials. Next.

http://i.imgur.com/ygZSd.gif

IllegalD
06-08-2014, 11:46 PM
not really, this spurs team is on another level

What evidence do you have of that?

Besides BSPN hyping them as "perennial favorites" in order to coddle LeBron's less than Jordan-esque legacy. So if he loses they can use the excuse that he lost to a "superior, multi-championship, legendary team", but if he wins then its some "huge, legendary, underdog accomplishment"

Warfan
06-08-2014, 11:47 PM
Why are y'all taking this thread seriously. I didn't know Fudge was this good:bowdown:

Magic 32
06-08-2014, 11:49 PM
he's 2nd best behind jordan right now. he still can surpass him.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TCw7PyZdqYM/U09gKy6G9cI/AAAAAAAAF5o/mWWl-euNwr8/s1600/GameOfDeath-KareemAbdulJabbar-01-400-sg.gif

inclinerator
06-08-2014, 11:49 PM
What evidence do you have of that?

Besides BSPN hyping them as "perennial favorites" in order to coddle LeBron's less than Jordan-esque legacy. So if he loses they can use the excuse that he lost to a "superior, multi-championship, legendary team", but if he wins then its some "huge, legendary, underdog accomplishment"
eye test brah eye test

Akrazotile
06-08-2014, 11:50 PM
I don't know if it's the lines I did earlier that's kicking in right now, but I truly believe this at the moment.


PM me broh

Fudge
06-08-2014, 11:50 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TCw7PyZdqYM/U09gKy6G9cI/AAAAAAAAF5o/mWWl-euNwr8/s1600/GameOfDeath-KareemAbdulJabbar-01-400-sg.gif
I'm almost certain Keno doesn't even know who that is.

Keno
06-08-2014, 11:52 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TCw7PyZdqYM/U09gKy6G9cI/AAAAAAAAF5o/mWWl-euNwr8/s1600/GameOfDeath-KareemAbdulJabbar-01-400-sg.gif

lmao. is that a joke, right?

Fudge
06-08-2014, 11:54 PM
lmao. is that a joke, right?
Are you asking a question or...

Fcuk, you're tripping me out. Killing my vibe.

Brb gonna do some more. Inb4 I pass out and almost OD.

:lol

Roundball_Rock
06-08-2014, 11:54 PM
The Spurs had the best record in the league this year, were second in the West in 2013 (and third overall), were tied for the best record in the league in 2012 with Chicago, were #2 by one game to Chicago in 2011. So to recap: 61, 62*, 58, 62 wins from 2011-2014--no worse than 3rd in the league in any year--and this is when they supposedly are washed up. Meanwhile, they have been the best team in the STACKED, STACKED, West during that period, winning the conference twice and reaching the WCF another time and being the top seed three of four years.

It will be hilarious to watch how LeBron haters downplay the Spurs after spending all year proclaiming how weak the East was and how strong the West was--yet the Western champs will now be called a weak, old team that had no chance. :lol

DonDadda59
06-08-2014, 11:55 PM
Are you asking a question or...

Fcuk, you're tripping me out. Killing my vibe.

Brb gonna do some more. Inb4 I pass out and almost OD.

:lol

I think it might be time we had an intervention for this nigguh.

poido123
06-08-2014, 11:55 PM
lmao. is that a joke, right?


You are a poor poster.

please stop killing everyone's braincells, it's daylight robbery.

Magic 32
06-08-2014, 11:55 PM
lmao. is that a joke, right?

http://s29.postimg.org/a8mi6c26v/Mountrushmore.jpg

Project018
06-09-2014, 12:12 AM
Awesome block. On Vince Carter too. :bowdown:

lol thats not VC

Fudge
06-09-2014, 12:13 AM
lol thats not VC
Yes it is.

:biggums:

oh the horror
06-09-2014, 12:16 AM
not really, this spurs team is on another level



Lol no they're not on "another level"


I know you fools are trying to rewrite the narrative to create something "special" here but as good as this Spurs team is, they're not even the best team the Spurs have ever had.



You guys are comedy.

sdot_thadon
06-09-2014, 12:26 AM
Yes it is.

:biggums:
Chris Gattling?

Fudge
06-09-2014, 12:33 AM
Chris Gattling?
Pretty sure that's a Ca that we can see on the back of his jersey. Along with the number 1, and if you look closely, it looks to be a 5 on the front. Light skin tone. Headband. Peanut shaped head. That's definitely Vince.

Cocaine80s
06-09-2014, 12:33 AM
Fudge is having a meltdown right now :roll:

Cocaine80s
06-09-2014, 12:34 AM
acting stupid aint cute bud.



go sh*t ur self again :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fudge
06-09-2014, 12:37 AM
Meltdown?

For what? My team won, doofus.

Cocaine80s
06-09-2014, 12:41 AM
Meltdown?

For what? My team won, doofus.
i think ur overdosed on crack :roll:

Fudge
06-09-2014, 12:44 AM
i think ur overdosed on crack :roll:
I don't fux wit crack.

And if I OD'ed, I would've been long gone by now and wouldn't be posting. Thank you lord.

TheMan
06-09-2014, 01:12 AM
From an MJ fan, that was a great LeBron performance tonight. :applause: Any less and Spurs up 2-0. That was Jordanesque, he's gonna have to do that more often this series because the Spurs were right there all game long. Gonna be a long and fun series to watch.

dreamwarrior
06-09-2014, 03:09 AM
He has to win for it to count. But I'll say this. If he keeps up these performances and actually wins 7 rings like he said he would, I'll say he's top 3 all time with Jordan and Kobe just ahead of him

Leftimage
06-09-2014, 03:15 AM
He has to win for it to count. But I'll say this. If he keeps up these performances and actually wins 7 rings like he said he would, I'll say he's top 3 all time with Jordan and Kobe just ahead of him

sick trolling, breh

MagnumT/A
06-09-2014, 03:20 AM
Chris Gattling?

Yes. MJ was retired by the time Vinsanity was with the nets.

Shade8780
06-09-2014, 08:31 AM
LeBron >> KD

r15mohd
06-09-2014, 08:46 AM
Pretty sure that's a Ca that we can see on the back of his jersey. Along with the number 1, and if you look closely, it looks to be a 5 on the front. Light skin tone. Headband. Peanut shaped head. That's definitely Vince.

smh...you young bucks need help!!!

Rodman left the Bulls after the 98 season, Vince entered the league in 98 and didn't play for the Nets until 2004 :facepalm :rolleyes: :facepalm

r15mohd
06-09-2014, 08:49 AM
From an MJ fan, that was a great LeBron performance tonight. :applause: Any less and Spurs up 2-0. That was Jordanesque, he's gonna have to do that more often this series because the Spurs were right there all game long. Gonna be a long and fun series to watch.


had Lebron not gotten injured in game 1, the Heat had a 2-0 lead in the series...Lebron has played exceptionally well in both games thus far and the Spurs didn't go off until Lebron went "off" the court, tbh

nevertheless...Lebron was GREAT last night, even though he missed some shots early on he didn't let that deter his game. :applause:

KevinNYC
06-09-2014, 09:53 AM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130214135224-00-michael-jordan-rodman-pippen-single-image-cut.jpg

It's Chris Gatling
http://thebrooklyngame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AP98042401420.jpg

He played 57 games for the nets in 1998.

KevinNYC
06-09-2014, 09:58 AM
Jordan rejects the New Jersey Nets' Chris Gatling at the rim in Game 1 of an Eastern Conference playoffs first-round series in 1998. With Jordan scoring 32 or more points in each game, the Bulls made quick work of the Nets, eliminating them in three games.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/photos/1302/sports-illustrated-100-best-pictures-of-michael-jordan/38/

Just2McFly
06-09-2014, 10:25 AM
fudge needs to be banned...

Magic 32
06-09-2014, 10:38 AM
It's Chris Gatling
http://thebrooklyngame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AP98042401420.jpg

He played 57 games for the nets in 1998.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz6_dXJt9Xk&t=2m50s

AirFederer
06-09-2014, 10:43 AM
Who is the greatest playoff fakkit of ish? Imho OP is a strong candidate :bowdown:

Smook A.
06-09-2014, 10:54 AM
Fudge I don't know if you're being serious or just trolling.

LeBron James' - Playoff averages: 48.1 FG%, 33.0 3P%, 75.4 FT%, 8.4 TRB, 6.5 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.9 BLK, 3.4 TOV, 28.0 PPG

Michael Jordan's - Playoff averages: 49.9 FG%, 35.4 3P%, 83.3 FT%, 6.7 TRB, 6.5 AST, 2.3 STL, 1.0 BLK, 3.4 TOV, and 34.4 PPG.

LeBron James' - NBA Finals averages: 44.1 FG%, 28.6 3P%, 73.7 FT%, 9.0 TRB, 7.0 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.6 BLK, 3.8 TOV, and 23.4 PPG.

Michael Jordan's - NBA Finals averages: 52.6 FG%, 41.2 3P%, 80.5 FT%, 6.7 TRB, 7.9 AST, 2.0 STL, 0.8 BLK, 2.6 TOV, and 36.3 PPG

Who has the better numbers?

KOBE143
06-09-2014, 10:59 AM
Fudge is so funny.. :oldlol:

People here actually take his Vince Carter joke seriously.. :roll:

creepingdeath
06-09-2014, 10:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/v4ZZOnN.png

f0und
06-09-2014, 11:11 AM
anyone know where i can find that thread from a few weeks ago about "those who were old enough to see jordan in his prime, who was better"? its pretty big evidence that these youngins dont know wtf they're talking because 99% of everyone that was old enough voted jordan. it was no contest.

lately there's been an influx of bron/kobe stans making threads trying to tear down jordan and i have wanted to post that thread everytime they do it. anyone know how to find it?

tmacattack33
06-09-2014, 11:27 AM
anyone know where i can find that thread from a few weeks ago about "those who were old enough to see jordan in his prime, who was better"? its pretty big evidence that these youngins dont know wtf they're talking because 99% of everyone that was old enough voted jordan. it was no contest.

lately there's been an influx of bron/kobe stans making threads trying to tear down jordan and i have wanted to post that thread everytime they do it. anyone know how to find it?

...and any one who used to watch Jordan and is posting on an internet forum is likely around 30-40 years old and so MJ was the best of their generation when they were young and their love of basketball developed, which creates a big bias.

f0und
06-09-2014, 11:38 AM
...and any one who used to watch Jordan and is posting on an internet forum is likely around 30-40 years old and so MJ was the best of their generation when they were young and their love of basketball developed, which creates a big bias.

how convenient of you to write it off as just a sort of nostalgia. and these people werent just the 30-40 crowd. it was the at least 30-40 crowd. and not all of these people were jordan fans. in fact, alot of them actually hated jordan. but whether it was stans, haters, neutral, hardcore bball fans, casual, it didnt matter. we all agreed. jordan did it MUCH better and it was no contest.

and think about how retarded you're sounding. what you're basically insinuating is that a generation who has only seen this generation of bball, knows more about basketball than those of us who have seen many generations of basketball. what kind of logic is that?

TheMan
06-09-2014, 11:41 AM
...and any one who used to watch Jordan and is posting on an internet forum is likely around 30-40 years old and so MJ was the best of their generation when they were young and their love of basketball developed, which creates a big bias.
:no: A bunch of those who voted freely admitted they rooted for other teams and disliked Jordan growing up. (Pacers, Heat, Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Knicks fans). Both playoffs stats and Finals stats, MJ clearly has the superior numbers, what argument does LeBron win in your opinion? Eye test? :confusedshrug:

BTW, I created that thread, should've bookmarked it:mad:

DJ Leon Smith
06-09-2014, 11:50 AM
...and any one who used to watch Jordan and is posting on an internet forum is likely around 30-40 years old and so MJ was the best of their generation when they were young and their love of basketball developed, which creates a big bias.

Actually no, I *WANT* someone to be better than Jordan. That's the standard I'm used to seeing in the best player in the league. Which is why I was annoyed that LeBron went to the Heat, because it gave him the safety net to not be truly great. You know those games where LeBron just slays, where Wade and Bosh aren't playing to their usual level and LeBron takes over? If he stayed in Cleveland we'd get those games every second night (plus a bunch of championships as well - I truly believe he's that good right now he could have led his last couple of Cavs squads, with some tweaking, to multiple titles). Now we get one amazing game per playoff series, a bunch of solid superstar games, plus a stinker or two. Give him more responsibility and maybe those stinkers don't exist, and then you're really looking at a challenger to Jordan.

(This isn't mean to just bash LeBron, I'm not a fan of Kobe for squandering chances to be right next to Jordan as well. He's the closest thing the league ever saw to MJ but his whole career has been stuck in Jordan's '87 season mode, where he's trying to get his but doesn't get the whole team concept. Again, truly great player, just not Jordan.)

Oh and threads like this lead to people being biased against LeBron/towards Jordan more than the era they grew up in, because LeBron's fans might be the biggest retards on the internet. Which is a truly amazing accomplishment.

ErhnamDjinn
06-09-2014, 11:50 AM
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2013/06/lebron-james-block-tiago-splitter-13.jpg
and your point?

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/news-record.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/80/78028f62-bff8-11e3-9beb-0017a43b2370/5345620333090.preview-300.jpg

OldSchoolBBall
06-09-2014, 11:52 AM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130214135224-00-michael-jordan-rodman-pippen-single-image-cut.jpg

The best part about this pic is that he was 35 years old here, it was the playofs, and he made that block with under 1:30 left in a tight game, stopping an easy layup at the rim by an (at the time) all-star level big man.

greymatter
06-09-2014, 12:12 PM
The best part about this pic is that he was 35 years old here, it was the playofs, and he made that block with under 1:30 left in a tight game, stopping an easy layup at the rim by an (at the time) all-star level big man.

Chris Gatling? Really? You're going to prop up Chris Gatling as your "all-star level" big man? Also on an attempt where he's too far under the basket to try and dunk it and was going to lay it up instead?

I'm sure if someone digs hard enough, they can find Tyrone Hill getting stuffed by a wing on a weak layup attempt too.

Psileas
06-09-2014, 12:12 PM
Actually no, I *WANT* someone to be better than Jordan. That's the standard I'm used to seeing in the best player in the league. Which is why I was annoyed that LeBron went to the Heat, because it gave him the safety net to not be truly great. You know those games where LeBron just slays, where Wade and Bosh aren't playing to their usual level and LeBron takes over? If he stayed in Cleveland we'd get those games every second night (plus a bunch of championships as well - I truly believe he's that good right now he could have led his last couple of Cavs squads, with some tweaking, to multiple titles). Now we get one amazing game per playoff series, a bunch of solid superstar games, plus a stinker or two. Give him more responsibility and maybe those stinkers don't exist, and then you're really looking at a challenger to Jordan.

(This isn't mean to just bash LeBron, I'm not a fan of Kobe for squandering chances to be right next to Jordan as well. He's the closest thing the league ever saw to MJ but his whole career has been stuck in Jordan's '87 season mode, where he's trying to get his but doesn't get the whole team concept. Again, truly great player, just not Jordan.)

Oh and threads like this lead to people being biased against LeBron/towards Jordan more than the era they grew up in, because LeBron's fans might be the biggest retards on the internet. Which is a truly amazing accomplishment.

It's highly doubtful LeBron would ever win more than 1 or 2 titles in his prime with a team as modestly run (and a city as mundane) as Cleveland. Although I disagree that titles should not be the main criterion when evaluating someone's all-time value, it's a sad known fact that most fans look at rings first, combined with performances. LeBron knew very well that in Cleveland, no matter the dominant games, his probable lack of rings in his prime would always hurt his case, while in Miami he'd eventually get a good part from both worlds, because it's evident that neither a growing and often injured Wade nor "#1 in Toronto" Bosh would be able to challenge his dominance in the long run.

BTW, LeBron's playoff numbers as a Heat aren't as inferior as most believe (if inferior at all):

Cleveland LeBron: 29.3/8.4/7.3/45.9% FG (PER: 27.1)
Miami LeBron: 26.9/8.5/5.8/50.2% FG (PER: 28.2)

aau
06-09-2014, 12:21 PM
by an all-star level big man.


hahaha

chris gatling




all these niqqas crazy

OldSchoolBBall
06-09-2014, 12:30 PM
Chris Gatling? Really? You're going to prop up Chris Gatling as your "all-star level" big man? Also on an attempt where he's too far under the basket to try and dunk it and was going to lay it up instead?

I'm sure if someone digs hard enough, they can find Tyrone Hill getting stuffed by a wing on a weak layup attempt too.

I'm not "propping up" anything. Gatling was an all-star the year prior, not 8 years earlier. Try harder next time.

OldSchoolBBall
06-09-2014, 12:31 PM
hahaha

chris gatling




all these niqqas crazy

Good to see aau making his biannual appearance to explicitly or tacitly bash Jordan, since that's all he does.

tmacattack33
06-09-2014, 12:33 PM
He's certainly one of the best ever in terms of playoff performers.

I would like to see a dominant Finals performance from him though, like over the series as a whole.

aau
06-09-2014, 02:18 PM
Good to see aau making his biannual appearance to explicitly or tacitly bash Jordan, since that's all he does.


awwww cmon lok-lok

in what other era is chris gatling even close to an all star

played just 47 games that year for like 3 teams

check who else made it that year

vin baker
terrell brandon
chris laettner
tom gugliotta
detlef shrimpf

that all-time all-star five

anthony mason was 3rd team all nba




hahahaha

shitts was sad

Roundball_Rock
06-09-2014, 02:23 PM
check who else made it that year

vin baker
terrell brandon
chris laettner
tom gugliotta
detlef shrimpf

that all-time all-star five

anthony mason was 3rd team all nba


:roll:

As to the OP, prime Kareem averaged 30/16/4/3 in the playoffs, including the GOAT playoff run in 77' with 35/18/4/4/2 on 61%.

riseagainst
06-10-2014, 01:48 PM
GOAT.

:bowdown: