LeBron just dropped 35 and 10 on 14/22 shooting in the Finals....

[oarabbus]

Shot 100% on 3s, dished a few assists and picked some steals too. Against a fcuking incredible Spurs team.

Are there any other rational non homer unbiased fans out there that appreciate this? :confusedshrug:

[Cocaine80s]

Couldve easily had 40+ too if he didnt have such a shitty 1st quarter

[Eye Test]

its cool and all but lets not make the exception be the rule

[SavageMode]

Shot 100% on 3s, dished a few assists and picked some steals too. Against a fcuking incredible Spurs team.

Are there any other rational non homer unbiased fans out there that appreciate this? :confusedshrug:
Durant Stans and Kobe Stans are so shook on this forum. It's a mess this forum is right now, just so many tears, left, right & center.

[IllegalD]

Shot 100% on 3s, dished a few assists and picked some steals too. Against a fcuking incredible Spurs team.

Are there any other rational non homer unbiased fans out there that appreciate this? :confusedshrug:

That "****ing incredible Spurs team" is the aged/geriatric version of the 2000s-era Spurs which was just "another team" that Kobe/Lakers had to go through just to get to the Finals. It just speaks to the weakness of this era of competition which is probably the weakest it's been since the 60's.

[Magic 32]

Lebron has played 20 finals games during his peak years.

This is only the second game you legitimately can call great.

Compare this to the last player who had this luxury:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=2000&year_max=2002&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=LAL&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_id=fin&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=Y&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_c=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

[SavageMode]

That "****ing incredible Spurs team" is the aged/geriatric version of the 2000s-era Spurs which was just "another team" that Kobe/Lakers had to go through just to get to the Finals. It just speaks to the weakness of this era of competition which is probably the weakest it's been since the 60's.

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:

[IllegalD]

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:


2008 WCFs....? :confusedshrug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmT7nL9Gnkw

Also, what does FMVP have to do with anything? Lakers didn't play the Spurs in the Finals ever. Everyone knows that Kobe was the best player vs the Spurs in 2001, 2002, and 2004, and had some of the best performances/moments in his career against them.

[Magic 32]

Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:

http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/14/jennifer-lawrence-10.gif

[SavageMode]

2008 WCFs....? :confusedshrug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmT7nL9Gnkw

Also, what does FMVP have to do with anything? Lakers didn't play the Spurs in the Finals ever. Everyone knows that Kobe was the best player vs the Spurs in 2001, 2002, and 2004, and had some of the best performances/moments in his career against them.
FMVP is everything.

The fact that Shaq has 3 FMVP, while Kobe only has 2, shows how much of a beta Kobe is. Dude was a 2nd-string to Shaq. The Wade to Lebron, The Durant to Westbrook. 2nd. String.

[Nuff Said]

This geriatric spurs team completely dismantled the MVP thunder team with top 5 Westbrook. Give them credit. They are pretty good. I just believe Miami is literally the only team in the league that can beat em in 7.

[poido123]

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:


I'm no Laker fan, but that team was shit outside of Kobe.

Gasol was soft, Nash was constantly injured and Dwight played like a woman.

The bench played liked a bench.

Just sayin.

[IllegalD]

FMVP is everything.

The fact that Shaq has 3 FMVP, while Kobe only has 2, shows how much of a beta Kobe is. Dude was a 2nd-string to Shaq. The Wade to Lebron, The Durant to Westbrook. 2nd. String.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg252/jorgepadilla23/SKnFQ.png

http://www.xxivk.net/news/files/images/2012/08/kobe-shaq-2001.jpg

[Mr Feeny]

I'm no Laker fan, but that team was shit outside of Kobe.

Gasol was soft, Nash was constantly injured and Dwight played like a woman.

The bench played liked a bench.

Just sayin.

And yet they're still better than the abomination of a squad that Lebron took to the NBA finals/and ECFs in the late 00's...Just saying

[Mr Feeny]

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg252/jorgepadilla23/SKnFQ.png

http://www.xxivk.net/news/files/images/2012/08/kobe-shaq-2001.jpg

Now show us their shot attempts and shooting percentage
:cheers:

[masonanddixon]

This Spurs team sucks.

Old man Dirk and his crappy team outplayed and should have won against them.

[Magic 32]

Now show us their shot attempts and shooting percentage
:cheers:

49%

[Mr Feeny]

This Spurs team sucks.

Old man Dirk and his crappy team outplayed and should have won against them.

Mhmm. Aha. Go on.......

[Mr Feeny]

49%

And Shaq's?

What about their shot attempts?:banana:

[imnew09]

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:

:applause: :bowdown:

Further proves that you're a 'tard

[masonanddixon]

Mhmm. Aha. Go on.......

Game 1 Dallas held the lead nearly the entirety of the game and then the Spurs played insane execution the last 5 minutes and pulled out the win.

Game 2 was Dallas blowout.

Game 3 was close and Carter hit that lucky game winner.

Game 4 Dallas had the momentum and lead and then Blair gets ejected and Spurs won.

Game 5 was close

Game 6 was close and Dallas had better execution down the stretch

Game 7-refs decided in the first three minutes that every possession for the Spurs would be a foul on Dallas.

And this was a team in which 33 year old Dalembert, 35 year old Marion, 37 year old Carter, and 31 year old Calderon were prominent players for a playoffs team.

This is easily the worst iteration of any Spurs Finals squad.

[Mr Feeny]

Game 1 Dallas held the lead nearly the entirety of the game and then the Spurs played insane execution the last 5 minutes and pulled out the win.

Game 2 was Dallas blowout.

Game 3 was close and Carter hit that lucky game winner.

Game 4 Dallas had the momentum and lead and then Blair gets ejected and Spurs won.

Game 5 was close

Game 6 was close and Dallas had better execution down the stretch

Game 7-refs decided in the first three minutes that every possession for the Spurs would be a foul on Dallas.

And this was a team in which 33 year old Dalembert, 35 year old Marion, 37 year old Carter, and 31 year old Calderon were prominent players for a playoffs team.


Mhmm. So this drivel proves that Dallas outplayed the Spurs and should have beaten them?:lol


Let me guess.....just like how Dirk "outplayed Duncan" in 2003?:lol

[masonanddixon]

Mhmm. So this drivel proves that Dallas outplayed the Spurs and should have beaten them?:lol


Let me guess.....just like how Dirk "outplayed Duncan" in 2003?:lol

You can believe whatever you want but this Spurs team sucks.

And I haven't even mentioned how Splitter took more FTs than Dallas combined in Game 4.

[DFish24]

Good game by Bran but the Spurs will still win the series.

[Mr Feeny]

You can believe whatever you want but this Spurs team sucks.

And I haven't even mentioned how Splitter took more FTs than Dallas combined in Game 4.

:oldlol:

[masonanddixon]

:oldlol:

Yeah man I mad. I real mad. Dallas should have won the series.

[Kingwillball]

Good game by Bran but the Spurs will still win the series.

U sure about that ?? I feel like if Lebron plays well heat wont lose and i dont see SA stopping Lebron he is having his way against leanard and Diaw dont see that changing..

[buddha]

FMVP is everything.

The fact that Shaq has 3 FMVP, while Kobe only has 2, shows how much of a beta Kobe is. Dude was a 2nd-string to Shaq. The Wade to Lebron, The Durant to Westbrook. 2nd. String.

Shaq averaged 38 and 15 during the finals for his first ring and we got Bran stans on here acting like a 35 point game in the finals makes Bran the goat.

[Mr Feeny]

Shaq averaged 38 and 15 during the finals for his first ring and we got Bran stans on here acting like a 35 point game in the finals makes Bran the goat.

Noone said that:confusedshrug:
Everyone agrees though that Lebron 》 Mr 6-24:D

[nzahir]

its cool and all but lets not make the exception be the rule
Kobe's best finals performance? None as good or efficient and none against a team this good. Funny since lebron has had better games before too in the finals. Game 7 last year. arguable game 6, and game 5 i believe the triple double vs okc

[Magic 32]

Noone said that:confusedshrug:
Everyone agrees though that Lebron 》 Mr 6-24:D

6-24 》 5 straight game of choking.

[Magic 32]

arguable game 6, and game 5 i believe the triple double vs okc

If you include those games...then Kobe has 10 great games in the finals.

Game 6 was a trainwreck.

[Mr Feeny]

6-24 》 5 straight game of choking.
:no: 37 and 12 in game 7's 》》》 6-24 in game 7's:cheers:

[Mr Feeny]

If you include those games...then Kobe has 10 great games in the finals.

Game 6 was a trainwreck.If game 6 was a train wreck, then Kobe has 0 great finals games:cheers:

[Magic 32]

:no: 37 and 12 in game 7's 》》》 6-24 in game 7's:cheers:

15th season with a drained knee. 3 straight finals runs.

And Celtics didn't give Kobe wiiiiide open 3's

[Magic 32]

If game 6 was a train wreck, then Kobe has 0 great finals games:cheers:

1-3 qtr = unmitigated disaster.

Last 4 min. + OT = unimaginable disaster

8 min. of layups :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[GimmeThat]

second game.


If the Heat is really that much better, then he should be able to put up similar stats on his close out game.

[KingBeasley08]

obviously magic 32 is tryna spin it. only time dude shows up is after a heat game :lol

[Magic 32]

obviously magic 32 is tryna spin it. only time dude shows up is after a heat game :lol

Can you point me to NBA games without the Heat these days?

[KingBeasley08]

Can you point me to NBA games without the Heat these days?
talkin about all the time broski. you never on ISH unless Heat involved, reg season and playoffs

[Magic 32]

talkin about all the time broski. you never on ISH unless Heat involved, reg season and playoffs

Try click on some Lakers threads.

[DaSeba5]

Don't let ISH and haters online fool you, many people respect LeBron. The best player will always receive a lot of hate and will always be over analyzed. But he will definitely finish as one of the all time GOATs.

[Jyap9675]

Best player in the planet, I wonder how long he'll stay elite

[played0ut]

Shot 100% on 3s, dished a few assists and picked some steals too. Against a fcuking incredible Spurs team.

Are there any other rational non homer unbiased fans out there that appreciate this? :confusedshrug:

me.


good for him. I really like he's toughened up mentally. It doesn't come natural to him like MJ/west/kobe/russell etc, but it can be learned.


All he needs now is consistent focus.

[Mr Feeny]

15th season with a drained knee. 3 straight finals runs.

And Celtics didn't give Kobe wiiiiide open 3's

Thou does suffer from extreme butthurt doesn't thou?

[IllegalD]

15th season with a drained knee. 3 straight finals runs.

And Celtics didn't give Kobe wiiiiide open 3's

Don't forget with a broken index finger on his shooting hand.

If LeBron had a broken index finger and Kobe's knee he would probably be out for the season, as we saw by how he reacts to mere menstrual cramps.

[Mr Feeny]

Don't forget with a broken index finger on his shooting hand.

If LeBron had a broken index finger and Kobe's knee he would probably be out for the season, as we saw by how he reacts to mere menstrual cramps.

Awww u poor babies! Doth thy butthurt hv thee shook?:lol

[IllegalD]

Awww u poor babies! Doth thy butthurt hv thee shook?:lol

Almost 1K posts in less than a year. :roll:

[Black and White]

Almost 1K posts in less than a year. :roll:

Brah, that's nothing, Jameerthefear has had over 1000 posts in a week, in that amount of time, its not a lot of posts for Feeny

[moe94]

Almost 1K posts in less than a year. :roll:
ad hominem

[Hey Yo]

Don't forget with a broken index finger on his shooting hand.

If LeBron had a broken index finger and Kobe's knee he would probably be out for the season, as we saw by how he reacts to mere menstrual cramps.
WITNESS!

[LongLiveTheKing]

15th season with a drained knee. 3 straight finals runs.

And Celtics didn't give Kobe wiiiiide open 3's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6161Cb6GB3E#t=121
Looks like a wiiiiide open 3 to me :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Kobetards are still crying and moaning. LBJ > KB. Deal with it.

[Real14]

Kobetards are still crying and moaning. LBJ > KB. Deal with it.
5 iz better than 3 asterisks:no:

[Lebron23]

5 iz better than 3 asterisks:no:


u mad. You wish LBj is playing for the Knicks.

[LBJ 23]

Don't forget with a broken index finger on his shooting hand.

If LeBron had a broken index finger and Kobe's knee he would probably be out for the season, as we saw by how he reacts to mere menstrual cramps.


Hey ripthekik where were you so long? :oldlol:

How many alter accounts did you make in 06'? I wonder if you're actually Bladers/ Phong who activated his old alter accounts after being humiliated so many times...

[Real14]

u mad. You wish LBj is playing for the Knicks.
back then I did but definitely not now.

[AintNoSunshine]

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:

:applause:

[Bigsmoke]

6-24 》 5 straight game of choking.

Kobe's 2004 Finals tho

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Lots of mad Kobetards in this thread.

[Ne 1]

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:
:oldlol: Kobe put up 33/7/7, 27/5/5 and 26/6/6 against the Spurs in the playoffs to get to the Finals, but yeah, it was all Shaq though. And he didn't even play in the playoffs with Dwight/Gasol/Nash.

[SexSymbol]

Kobe's best finals performance? None as good or efficient and none against a team this good. Funny since lebron has had better games before too in the finals. Game 7 last year. arguable game 6, and game 5 i believe the triple double vs okc
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[All Net]

back then I did but definitely not now.
You must like sucking forever then.

[K Xerxes]

Lots of mad Kobetards in this thread.

They're in limbo right now. With the way both Duncan and Lebron are playing, it seems like either one will win FMVP. Duncan becomes almost unquestionably greater with a win (5 rings, 4 FMVP, 2 MVP vs 5 rings, 2 FMVP, 1 MVP). LeBron becomes very arguably greater before he reaches 30 years old. What are they supposed to do apart from get mad? :oldlol:

[Real14]

You must like sucking forever then.
I guess 2013 didn't exist:coleman: plus we still have Melo and Phil which means better roster changes for tha upcoming season.

[moe94]

They're in limbo right now. With the way both Duncan and Lebron are playing, it seems like either one will win FMVP. Duncan becomes almost unquestionably greater with a win (5 rings, 4 FMVP, 2 MVP vs 5 rings, 2 FMVP, 1 MVP). LeBron becomes very arguably greater before he reaches 30 years old. What are they supposed to do apart from get mad? :oldlol:

They won't let LeBron go until he gets at least 5.

[aj1987]

You must like sucking forever then.
Damn! Cold blooded! It's not often that you see All Net destroy trolls. :oldlol:

[Ne 1]

They're in limbo right now. With the way both Duncan and Lebron are playing, it seems like either one will win FMVP. Duncan becomes almost unquestionably greater with a win (5 rings, 4 FMVP, 2 MVP vs 5 rings, 2 FMVP, 1 MVP). LeBron becomes very arguably greater before he reaches 30 years old. What are they supposed to do apart from get mad? :oldlol:
I'm a Laker and Kobe fan and I'm certainly (and it seems like most Laker fans for that matter are certainly not in limbo) as we aren't insecure or care about about fans arbitrary player rankings considering we are the most prestigious franchisee in NBA history. As far as your point though, Finals MVP is a pretty useless award. It's an award based on just 4-7 games and it didn't even exist until 1969, had it, Bill Russell would have more than anyone. Plenty of of non-elite players like Paul Pierce, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, James Worthy, Joe Dumars and Cedric Maxwell all have won Finals MVPs. Even John freaking Starks came literally within one shot of winning MVP of the Finals. Kareem was flat out robbed of the 1980 Finals MVP in favor of a popular, charismatic teammate because CBS persuaded and coerced enough writers to change their votes and we're going to act like this award is legit?

[DMAVS41]

Just watched the game.

What a masterful display by Lebron. :bowdown:

[annbafan]

hopefully he keeps it up for the rest of the finals

[K Xerxes]

I'm a Laker and Kobe fan and I'm certainly (and it seems like most Laker fans for that matter are certainly not in limbo) as we aren't insecure or care about about fans arbitrary player rankings considering we are the most prestigious franchisee in NBA history. As far as your point though, Finals MVP is a pretty useless award. It's an award based on just 4-7 games and it didn't even exist until 1969, had it, Bill Russell would have more than anyone. Plenty of of non-elite players like Paul Pierce, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, James Worthy, Joe Dumars and Cedric Maxwell all have won Finals MVPs. Even John freaking Starks came literally within one shot of winning MVP of the Finals. Kareem was flat out robbed of the 1980 Finals MVP in favor of a popular, charismatic teammate because CBS persuaded and coerced enough writers to change their votes and we're going to act like this award is legit?

A rudimentary comparison of accolades isn't how I rank players, but it is the easiest (laziest) and most widely used criteria. My post is how they would be viewed in the eyes of fans looking at these things.

In terms of FMVP, I'd say that it generally gives an account of who the best player in the playoffs was. As you say, there are exceptions, but how does this help Kobe's case? Tony Parker was the FMVP in 2007 but Duncan was the leader and best player throughout the playoffs. Duncan outperforms Parker in this series, wins FMVP and it can be argued that he has led his team to five championship runs as the best player (he was also the best player against OKC). Kobe only led his to two (played a big part in four). That just hammers more nails into the coffin.

Btw I would say there's a difference between being a Kobe stan and a Kobe fan. Kobe stans are genuinely panicking at this moment.

[Ne 1]

Just watched the game.

What a masterful display by Lebron. :bowdown:
Indeed. When his jumper is falling like it was last night he's just unstoppable. If not for the slow start in the 1st quarter he could have gone for 40.

[oarabbus]

Any idiots trying to claim this Spurs team isn't good... thanks for exposing your lack of basketball knowledge :oldlol:

[Solefade]

watching kobetards crumble in this thread is hilarious

[Magic 32]

watching kobetards crumble in this thread is hilarious

Solefade = http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/2284387_o.gif

[Crafty]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L21_SdVCdZI/U5WrjfGQ8XI/AAAAAAAAFXs/PF2jzYl7NoY/s1600/Capture.JPG

[The_LA_Blakers]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L21_SdVCdZI/U5WrjfGQ8XI/AAAAAAAAFXs/PF2jzYl7NoY/s1600/Capture.JPG


Game 1?

[greymatter]

Game 1?

+/- 0 on.

-15 off.

[imdaman99]

I don't like bran but that was a great game by him last night.

[nzahir]

6-24 》 5 straight game of choking.
STILL WAITING FOR A GOOD KOBE FINALS GAME STAT(WITH THE FG PERCENTAGE)
GOOD LUCK FINDING ONE B/C YOU CANT..

[Dro]

Shot 100% on 3s, dished a few assists and picked some steals too. Against a fcuking incredible Spurs team.

Are there any other rational non homer unbiased fans out there that appreciate this? :confusedshrug:
I know I do...Keep losing to this dude.......I have to appreciate him......

[masonanddixon]

Any idiots trying to claim this Spurs team isn't good... thanks for exposing your lack of basketball knowledge :oldlol:

This Spurs team is garbage.

Old Man Dirk and his team of cast offs outplayed them and would've won if not for officiating agendas.

This is easily the worst Spurs team to make the Finals.

[LongLiveTheKing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6161Cb6GB3E#t=121
Looks like a wiiiiide open 3 to me :oldlol:
Waiting for the reply :lol

[TheReal Kendall]

He had a great game last night and was on fire in the 3rd.


Bosh came up big too

[theoneneo]

Shot 100% on 3s, dished a few assists and picked some steals too. Against a fcuking incredible Spurs team.

Are there any other rational non homer unbiased fans out there that appreciate this? :confusedshrug:

I certainly appreciate it, but what does it really say... Lebron had a decent game, nothing legendary, nothing we'll remember in 10 years, just decent. It's just funny seeing the Stans act as if he's now the Goat cause of this one game. Hope he can keep it up tho

[theoneneo]

Shaq/Lakers = edit.

Shaq with 3 FMVP, and Kobe got swept in first round with Dwight, Gasol and Nash. :roll: :roll:

But Kobe won 2 titles without the hep of Nash and Dwight, so your point moot

[sick_brah07]

you can say all you want about lebron and his past and what not

but his just on another level at the moment

put him on single team in the NBA and they instantly have a shot at every single game because of him

[Eye Test]

not impressed, he has scored 1 point in the last 5 mins of both games combined.