Has anyone noticed......

[NumberSix]

2012: OKC favoured to win over MIA
2013: SAS favoured to win over MIA
2014: SAS favoured to win over MIA


If Miami 3 peats, will it be the first 3-peat where the winner were underdogs every year?

[Lebronxrings]

heat against the world :rockon:

[moe94]

underdog 3peat

#doingthangs

[DuMa]

I dont see how 2013 Spurs were favored over MIA. MIA had homecourt and was coming off a dominant season with a 27 game winning streak.

[J Shuttlesworth]

[2Pac:]
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Oooohhh, oooohhh
[2Pac:]
Nuttin to lose...
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Oahhhh, oahhhahh
[2Pac:]
I got nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Oh-hahhh
[2Pac:]
Stuck in the game
Me against the world baby

[Verse 1: 2Pac]
Can you picture my prophecy?
Stress in the city, the cops is hot for me
The projects is full of bullets, the bodies is droppin
There ain't no stoppin me
Constantly movin while makin millions
Witnessin killings, leavin dead bodies in abandoned buildings
Can't raise the children cause they're illin
Addicted to killin and the appeal from the cap peelin
Without feelin, but will they last or be blasted?
Hard headed bastard
Maybe he'll listen in his casket - the aftermath
More bodies being buried - I'm losing my homies in a hurry
They're relocating to the cemetary
Got me worried, stressin, my vision's blurried
The question is will I live? No one in the world loves me
I'm headed for danger, don't trust strangers
Put one in the chamber whenever I'm feelin this anger
Don't wanna make excuses, cause this is how it is
What's the use unless we're shootin no one notices the youth
It's just me against the world baby

[Girl:]
Me against the world
[2Pac:]
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Ooooh yeah, ooo-hooo
[2Pac:]
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Me against the world
[2Pac:]
Cause it's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Hey!
[2Pac:]
Me against the world
[Girl:]
Ooooh yeah
[2Pac:]
I got nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
I got nothing to lose

[Verse 2: Dramacydal]
Could somebody help me? I'm out here all by myself
See ladies in stores, Baby Capone's, livin wealthy
Pictures of my birth on this Earth is what I'm dreamin
Seein Daddy's semen, full of crooked demons, already crazy
And screamin I guess them nightmares as a child
Had me scared, but left me prepared for a while
Is there another route? For a crooked Outlaw
Veteran, a villian, a young thug, who one day shall fall

Everday there's mo' death, and plus I'm dough-less
I'm seein mo' reasons for me to proceed with thievin
Scheme on the scheming and leave they peeps grieving
Cause ain't no bucks to stack up, my nuts is backed up
I'm bout to act up, go load the Mac up, now watch me klacka
Tried makin fat cuts, but yo it ain't workin
And Evil's lurking, I can see him smirking
When I gets to pervin, so what?
Go put some work in, and make my mail, makin sales
Risking 25 with a 'L', but oh well

[Girl:]
Me against the world
[2Pac:]
With nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Ooh yeah... oooh-ooooh
[2Pac:]
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Me against the world
[2Pac:]
I got nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Oahhhohh
[2Pac:]
Ha ha
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Ha-ahh, HA-AHH!
[2Pac:]
With nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Me against the world, hoahhh
[2Pac:]
Me against the world
I got nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Ha-hahh (hehe) heyy!

[Verse 3: 2Pac]
With all this extra stressin
The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
When will I finally get to rest? Through this supression
They punish the people that's askin questions
And those that possess, steal from the ones without possessions
The message I stress: to make it stop study your lessons
Don't settle for less - even a genius asks-es questions
Be grateful for blessings
Don't ever change, keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address
Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic
And when you get stranded
And things don't go the way you planned it
Dreamin of riches, in a position of makin a difference
Politicians and hypocrites, they don't wanna listen
If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change
It wasn't nuttin like the game
It's just me against the world

[Girl:]
Me against the world
[2Pac:]
Nuttin to lose
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Me against the world
[2Pac:]
Got me stuck in the game
It's just me against the world
[Girl:]
Oahahhhh
[2Pac:]
I'd be ashamed to lose
It's just me against the world baby
[Girl:]
Me against the world

[Outro: 2Pac]
Heh, hahahahahahah
That's right
I know it seem hard sometimes but uhh
Remember one thing
Through every dark night, there's a bright day after that
So no matter how hard it get, stick your chest out
Keep your head up, and handle it

[Girl:]
Me against the world [x3]

[robert_shaww]

2012: OKC favoured to win over MIA
2013: SAS favoured to win over MIA
2014: SAS favoured to win over MIA


If Miami 3 peats, will it be the first 3-peat where the winner were underdogs every year?


:facepalm

[NumberSix]

:facepalm
Vegas has odds favouring SAS both this year and last.

[oarabbus]

Vegas has odds favouring SAS both this year and last.

Which is asinine. I'll take the defending champs as the favorite, please.

[Solefade]

Vegas has odds favouring SAS both this year and last.


are you sure? i thought miami was favored by vegas last year

[NumberSix]

are you sure? i thought miami was favored by vegas last year
Nope. 2011 was the only year they were favoured.

[Leftimage]

I dont see how 2013 Spurs were favored over MIA. MIA had homecourt and was coming off a dominant season with a 27 game winning streak.

It's not about whether or not you see it, it's about how Las Vegas & the media called it . Heat have been underdogs all three years, which amplifies the accomplishments of LeBron imo.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's not about whether or not you see it, it's about how Las Vegas & the media called it.

Huh? Do you let them form opinions for you also?

[Leftimage]

Huh? Do you let them form opinions for you also?

:facepalm :facepalm Again, it's not an opinion, it is a FACT (for record-keeping purposes) that the Heat were underdogs for all three years.

Or I could go by your logic and say: Kobe is a 5 time MVP, because in my opinion he was the league MVP 5 times.

Record-keepers, and historians ,etc, will look at the books and say ''The Heat were rated as underdogs for all three series.''

There really is no debating what I'm saying... I think you may have interpreted it wrong.

[Real14]

You Lebron stans are REAL retarded these dayz:facepalm Tha Cheat were never underdogs from 2011-2014, people just don't want them to win, big difference. Learn life niguh:no:

[Fudge]

Heat were da favorites for the past 4 years now doggy.

[KyleKong]

You Lebron stans are REAL retarded these dayz:facepalm Tha Cheat were never underdogs from 2011-2014, people just don't want them to win, big difference. Learn life niguh:no:

2012: OKC Favored to win

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/19332621/nba-finals-thunder-favored-by-vegas-oddsmakers

2013: Spurs Favored to win

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

2014: Spurs Favored to win win

http://www.betvega.com/odds-to-win-nba-championship/

Learn life.:no:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:facepalm :facepalm Again, it's not an opinion, it is a FACT (for record-keeping purposes) that the Heat were underdogs for all three years.

Or I could go by your logic and say: Kobe is a 5 time MVP, because in my opinion he was the league MVP 5 times.

Record-keepers, and historians ,etc, will look at the books and say ''The Heat were rated as underdogs for all three series.''

There really is no debating what I'm saying... I think you may have interpreted it wrong.

How is calling Miami underdogs, the most top heavy team in the league this side of OKC, a fact? Most expected them to win a handful of championships when they got together...what changed?

And yeah...:oldlol: at your "MVP" example. The award is physically given to you that factually states your THE most valuable player. The terms "favorites" and underdogs" are completely subjective...especially if we're talking about NBA Finalists.

[riseagainst]

yes, if the Heat wins this year, this Heat dynasty will become the GOAT dynasty, GOAT team. LEbron will officially become the GOAT, surpassing every player that has come before him He already is the 2nd GOAT.

[oh the horror]

yes, if the Heat wins this year, this Heat dynasty will become the GOAT dynasty, GOAT team. LEbron will officially become the GOAT, surpassing every player that has come before him He already is the 2nd GOAT.



Yeah, no.


I think most fans of ball who are in the know had the Heat all of these seasons.

Even in the Dallas series most wrote off Dirk and co.



Getting like ESPN around here

[Real14]

2012: OKC Favored to win

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/19332621/nba-finals-thunder-favored-by-vegas-oddsmakers

2013: Spurs Favored to win

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

2014: Spurs Favored to win win

http://www.betvega.com/odds-to-win-nba-championship/

Learn life.:no:
Learn that life has setups and tricks, and these odds makerz niguhz sure tricked a lot of people. They got over people and made them lose mad money on purpose cuz sheep don't know any better niguh:no:

[KyleKong]

Learn that life has setups and tricks, and these odds makerz niguhz sure tricked a lot of people. They got over people and made them lose mad money on purpose cuz sheep don't know any better niguh:no:

http://www.bubblews.com/assets/images/news/681630295_1371205047.jpg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

2012: OKC Favored to win

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/19332621/nba-finals-thunder-favored-by-vegas-oddsmakers

2013: Spurs Favored to win

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

2014: Spurs Favored to win win

http://www.betvega.com/odds-to-win-nba-championship/

Learn life.:no:

And this means what? The Heat are the reigning NBA champs (2x), NOT underdogs.

Nobody that REALLY understands basketball would drop 5K in favor of SA...unless of course you're deluded and money is "just paper".

[Real14]

And this means what? The Heat are the reigning NBA champs (2x), NOT underdogs.

Nobody that REALLY understands basketball would drop 5K in favor of SA...unless of course you're deluded and money is "just paper".
Exactly.

[KyleKong]

And this means what? The Heat are the reigning NBA champs (2x), NOT underdogs.

Nobody that REALLY understands basketball would drop 5K in favor of SA...unless of course you're deluded and money is "just paper".

So who determines who is a favorite and who is the underdog?

Seems subjective to me.

[Byobob]

Learn that life has setups and tricks, and these odds makerz niguhz sure tricked a lot of people. They got over people and made them lose mad money on purpose cuz sheep don't know any better niguh:no:


Mah boy. Oddsmakers main goal actually is to balance the bets on both sides. Hence the odds. There might be some shenanigans here and there but the most optimal way for the casino to make money is to have even bets on both sides.

The only trick that they did is to make the odds more reasonable and convince the masses that it's a 50-50 chance either way.

Peace bro! :cheers:

[KyleKong]

So many tin foil hat posters in this thread.

:oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

So who determines who is a favorite and who is the underdog?

Seems subjective to me.

You just answered your own question.

[Real14]

Mah boy. Oddsmakers main goal actually is to balance the bets on both sides. Hence the odds. There might be some shenanigans here and there but the most optimal way for the casino to make money is to have even bets on both sides.

Peace bro! :cheers:
Exactly man, Its a pretty phucked up system tho man especially for tha sheeple out here:facepalm

[Byobob]

Exactly man, Its a pretty phucked up system tho man especially for tha sheeple out here:facepalm

It is a broken system for an average Joe, I agree. But it is what it is, man.

[SilkkTheShocker]

OKC and and Spurs this year were most definitely the favorites. Any one arguing otherwise is trying to change history.

[stalkerforlife]

lol...

People HOPE the Heat will lose, but deep in their hearts, they know the Heat are the favorites. Every analyst or guru alive knows damn well the Heat are the favorites. They are just too stacked to comprehend them losing. The 2011 choke job shocked the entire NBA world.

[T_L_P]

http://blog.pundittracker.com/which-nba-pundit-picked-the-heat-vs-spurs-finals/

Spurs were favourites in last year's Finals?

[MavsSuperFan]

2012: OKC favoured to win over MIA
2013: SAS favoured to win over MIA
2014: SAS favoured to win over MIA


If Miami 3 peats, will it be the first 3-peat where the winner were underdogs every year?
these fools when will they learn blessed is the mind too small to doubt LeGod.


I dont see how 2013 Spurs were favored over MIA. MIA had homecourt and was coming off a dominant season with a 27 game winning streak.
utterly ridiculous, its fine doe Thought begets heresy: Heresy begets retribution. Praise be to LeGod!!!!!!!!

[AnaheimLakers24]

vegas in on the rig to get people easy money

no one ever believed okc would win

[JT123]

How is calling Miami underdogs, the most top heavy team in the league this side of OKC, a fact? Most expected them to win a handful of championships when they got together...what changed?

Oh I don't know, how about Wade declining much faster than expected. :facepalm Maybe that Bosh has been a huge disappointment. The fact that Lebron has won 2 rings with all these things going against him is a testament to his greatness. :bowdown:

[T_L_P]

Dude, like with your "ESPN rated 2003 Duncan as 3rd greatest po run ever" you're talking shit again :lol

(Duncan is 4th) and you really think they decide whos favorite/underdog before the SEASON, or before the FINALS? :facepalm

First of all, they did rank Duncan's run 3rd (behind Jordan's and LeBron's), and secondly, I'm referring to the 3rd column on that link, where the pundits made their predictions just before the Finals (where the favourites are decided). 10 of the 13 picked the Heat over the Spurs.

Here's the link where ESPN rank Duncan's run 3rd:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9357345/greatest-individual-postseasons-1-5

[IncarceratedBob]

How beta do you have to be to have won the championship the year before and the next year you're still the underdog? You never saw that shit with Kobe

[ArbitraryWater]

First of all, they did rank Duncan's run 3rd (behind Jordan's and LeBron's), and secondly, I'm referring to the 3rd column on that link, where the pundits made their predictions just before the Finals (where the favourites are decided). 10 of the 13 picked the Heat over the Spurs.

Here's the link where ESPN rank Duncan's run 3rd:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9357345/greatest-individual-postseasons-1-5

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8100287/nba-playoffs-greatest-individual-playoff-runs

2 different ones.. gotcha

[JT123]

How beta do you have to be to have won the championship the year before and the next year you're still the underdog? You never saw that shit with Kobe
Well in the words of the great Charles Barkley "Lebron has to carry a lot of dead weight on this team." :confusedshrug:
You never heard anyone say that about Kobe when the Lakers were on their run, because everyone knew his team would carry him. :lol