Who Would You Start Ur Franchise With, Prime Wade, Or Prime Kobe?

[aboss4real24]

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2 Of the top 3 SG Ever imo

Cant go wrong with either 1

i would take wade


More efficient of a scorer

Better defender imo , and a better playmaker

and is just as gud a closer as kobe if not better


who would u take?

[Soundwave]

Kobe.

[rule1223]

Kobe, 10 out of 10 time.

[NumberSix]

Wade. Doesn't get 7 seeds with stacked teams.

[ImKobe]

Kobe.

[Milbuck]

Kobe

[D-Rose]

Probably Kobe due to health over their careers.

If health was equal...really don't know.

[navy]

Are we going to assume that Wade gets his knee injured?

[Le Shaqtus]

I want to pick Wade but his longevity compared to Kobe hurts his case.

[Smoke117]

Wade

[NumberSix]

I want to pick Wade but his longevity compared to Kobe hurts his case.
Meh. Wade might still be a good player for 5 more season. That would put him up to 16. Kobe was a good player for what? 14 or 15 seasons?

[aboss4real24]

Are we going to assume that Wade gets his knee injured?

yes

and both at there peak

[IllegalD]

Wade. Doesn't get 7 seeds with stacked teams.

No. He only loses against 1-Superstar teams in the finals not even being the #1 guy on stacked teams.

Also could only win 1 "go-to-guy" ring, with questionable refs.

[ImKobe]

Wade. Doesn't get 7 seeds with stacked teams.

Stacked team = your starting PF and PG each miss 30+ games in the regular season and are medicore when on court, you have no bench and your 2nd best player is a big man, who's a liability in the 4th quarter because he can't make free throws, has no post game and is completely unused on the defensive end by an idiotic coach who only cares about putting up points. You are forced to play 40-48 mpg at the end of the season because all of your point guards are injured and the only "capable" shooting guard on your roster is Jodie Meeks, who has been ice cold from 3 all season. Your starting forward Metta World Piss is actually left wide open on offense nearly every time and you pass him the ball and he misses 7 out of 10 wide open threes, giving opposing teams plenty of transition buckets on the other end.

#stacked

[Smook A.]

I'll take Kobe. Not hating on Wade or anything, I think he's a fantastic player but Kobe is better, imo.

You said you would take Wade because he's more efficient. Kobe past his prime was still averaging over 25+ ppg 5 rpg 5 apg. Wade is past his prime and obviously we see a decline. His playing style is the reason why I think he's not healthy most of the time. Before his injury, Kobe was doing his thing every year for more than a decade. He looked like he was still in his prime when he got into his 30s.

Shooting - Kobe
Scoring - Kobe
Defense - Wade
Driving - Wade
Ball Handling - Wade
Efficiency - Wade
Athleticism - Wade

Overall - Kobe

[Inactive]

Kobe. Mostly due to longevity. At his peak Wade was just as good, and didn't have the ego issues that Kobe has, but his peak only lasted a few seasons. Kobe played at an elite level for more than a decade.

[NumberSix]

I'll take Kobe. Not hating on Wade or anything, I think he's a fantastic player but Kobe is better, imo.

You said you would take Wade because he's more efficient. Kobe past his prime was still averaging over 25+ ppg 5 rpg 5 apg. Wade is past his prime and obviously we see a decline. His playing style is the reason why I think he's not healthy most of the time. Before his injury, Kobe was doing his thing every year for more than a decade. He looked like he was still in his prime when he got into his 30s.

Shooting - Kobe
Scoring - Kobe
Defense - Wade
Driving - Wade
Ball Handling - Wade
Efficiency - Kobe
Athleticism - Wade

Overall - Kobe
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[atljonesbro]

Wade every time. Prime Wade is easily better than Prime Kobe.

[aboss4real24]

I'll take Kobe. Not hating on Wade or anything, I think he's a fantastic player but Kobe is better, imo.

You said you would take Wade because he's more efficient. Kobe past his prime was still averaging over 25+ ppg 5 rpg 5 apg. Wade is past his prime and obviously we see a decline. His playing style is the reason why I think he's not healthy most of the time. Before his injury, Kobe was doing his thing every year for more than a decade. He looked like he was still in his prime when he got into his 30s.

Shooting - Kobe
Scoring - Kobe
Defense - Wade
Driving - Wade
Ball Handling - Wade
Effinciency - Kobe
Athleticism - Wade

Overall - Kobe


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[Mass Debator]

I'll take Kobe. Not hating on Wade or anything, I think he's a fantastic player but Kobe is better, imo.

You said you would take Wade because he's more efficient. Kobe past his prime was still averaging over 25+ ppg 5 rpg 5 apg. Wade is past his prime and obviously we see a decline. His playing style is the reason why I think he's not healthy most of the time. Before his injury, Kobe was doing his thing every year for more than a decade. He looked like he was still in his prime when he got into his 30s.

Shooting - Kobe
Scoring - Kobe
Defense - Wade
Driving - Wade
Ball Handling - Wade
Efficiency - Kobe
Athleticism - Wade

Overall - Kobe
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[ImKobe]

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[Smook A.]

Damn I actually put Kobe in front of Wade for efficiency? Wow I didn't realize that. Wade is clearly more efficient.

I'd still take Kobe over Wade tough

[JellyBean]

Kobe. To me, they both were decent defenders and rebounders. The reason why I pick Kobe; the ability to attack any where, any way, any how and by any means necessary. I still think about Kobe's Christmas game against the Heat, where he took 30 shots. In that game, D-Wade took 26 shots. That was insane!!:applause:

[AirFederer]

Wade

[DMAVS41]

I don't understand the question.

Is it both of them in their peak/primes for the entire time you have a team?

Or is it just taking Wade or Kobe for their careers?

If it's peak/prime...I want Wade.

If it's their careers...I for sure want Kobe. Wade's play has dropped off too much already the last 2 years.

I was always a Wade supporter and thought his injuries were a bit overblown, but these last 2 years he's been unable to consistently perform or stay healthy at a level, especially in the playoffs, that works as championship first option.

Put it this way;

Kobe was 30 in 09 and 31 in 10 when he won back to back titles as the clear cut best player on his team.

There was no way that Wade in 12 (when he was 30) or in 13 (when he was 31) was capable of that.

Well, I take that back...Wade might have been able to win in place of Kobe in 09 at the same age, but Kobe was clearly a better player in 09 vs 12 Wade.

So longevity really is hurting Wade at this point.

[aj1987]

If we're ignoring injuries, Wade. Otherwise it's obviously Kobe.

[PJR]

Wade pretty easily. Going to do whatever is best for the TEAM. No ego involved. Whether it's taking a secondary role, or taking less money. Wade's also not going to alienate fellow teammates, or dry snitch on them if he were to get caught up in a sexual assault case.

[Jacks3]

Kobe pretty easily. Better peak and a better and far, far longer prime.

Wade doesn't really have a case.

Also, Wade is not more efficient. Their TS%/ORTG numbers over their primes are pretty much equal and that's with Kobe having the higher volume. Why do Wade stans keep perpetuating this lie? :confusedshrug:

[JUDGE WITNESS]

hard choice but i would pick kobe

[kennethgriffin]

prime kobe = 81 points, 62 in three quarters, five 60 point games, 55 in a half, 4 straight 50+ games, 2 of them being over 60, over 20 games with 40+ points in one season, mvp, top 6-7 all time player

wade never even made a 1st team all defense



lol wtf is OP smoking

[SamuraiSWISH]

Peaks are comparable. But Kobe due to longevity, drive, toughness, durability and skill set.

[Black and White]

Kobe Bryant, Wade is an amazing player, but Kobe has more skills and you can't ignore the mental aspect.

[joeyjoejoe]

Wade had a better peak Kobe has longevity

[Akrazotile]

The guy who has more of a real effect on the game in meaningful ways, like paint scoring and defense.

Kobe has his cutesie little turnaround fadeaways and can put up big point totals while chucking, similar to Arenas, but hes inconsistent on offense and a liability on defense.

Wade hands down.

[Black and White]

The guy who has more of a real effect on the game in meaningful ways, like paint scoring and defense.

Kobe has his cutesie little turnaround fadeaways and can put up big point totals while chucking, similar to Arenas, but hes inconsistent on offense and a liability on defense.

Wade hands down.

You are talking like prime Kobe was James Harden on defense, Kobe was a great man defender, people are getting caught up in the bs thats said around here.

[jstern]

Wade if we're assuming they're healthy.

[TheReal Kendall]

I'll take Kobe. Not hating on Wade or anything, I think he's a fantastic player but Kobe is better, imo.

You said you would take Wade because he's more efficient. Kobe past his prime was still averaging over 25+ ppg 5 rpg 5 apg. Wade is past his prime and obviously we see a decline. His playing style is the reason why I think he's not healthy most of the time. Before his injury, Kobe was doing his thing every year for more than a decade. He looked like he was still in his prime when he got into his 30s.

Shooting - Kobe
Scoring - Kobe
Defense - Wade
Driving - Wade
Ball Handling - Wade
Efficiency - Wade
Athleticism - Wade

Overall - Kobe

:biggums: :confusedshrug: How Kobe better overall?

[Smook A.]

Prime Kobe Bryant
35.4 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 3.1 TPG (45 FG%)

Prime Dwyane Wade
30.2 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 7.5 APG, 2.2 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 3.4 TPG (49 FG%)

[SamuraiSWISH]

Anyone saying "Wade easily" should immedietly be disregarded as Gabrielle Union.

[TheReal Kendall]

Prime Kobe Bryant
35.4 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 3.1 TPG (45 FG%)

Prime Dwyane Wade
30.2 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 7.5 APG, 2.2 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 3.4 TPG (49 FG%)

To me Wade is better overall cause those extra assists make up for the 5 more points Kobe averaged over him.

Wade beats him in every category. Their scoring abilities are closer than people think.

[hahaitme]

Wade had his meniscus removed when he was 19. We'll never know his true peak

[IMObjective]

Anyone saying "Wade easily" should immedietly be disregarded as Gabrielle Union.
:lol

[Eye Test]

:facepalm

[DFish24]

Kobe Haters/Wade Stans= Wade
Everyone else(who thinks logically)= Kobe

[TheReal Kendall]

Kobe Haters/Wade Stans= Wade
Everyone else(who thinks logically)= Kobe

:coleman: Not of fan of either player but I feel like Wade brings more to the court with less ego.

[kennethgriffin]

Wade's peak slams Kobe's but Kobe obviously had a longer career and has been better overall.


how is wades peak better than kobe if it occured during a time that kobe was winning mvps and finals mvps with 1st team all nba's on both ends of the floor


in 2009 wade had his best statistical season..

30/7/5 and his team lost in the 1st round



great.. good for him.. but 35/5/5 with all those scoring records trumps all that anyway ... even if you wanna discount kobes title runs and say "well wade had a slightly better line in meaningless regular season games"

who cares

but if you wanna measure that.. 2006 kobe trumps anyone over the last 30 years... no ones had that kind of dominance individually since wilt

wade couldnt drop 80 if his babies mama's kids lives depended on it

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[HOoopCityJones]

:coleman: Not of fan of either player but I feel like Wade brings more to the court with less ego.

How the **** does a guy who can't even lead his squad to a deep Playoff birth in the weak ass East bring more to the Court?

Wade isn't shit without a Top 8 player of all time next to him.

While Kobe was leading a Team with Smush and Kwame to the Playoffs.

After that Gasol, Odom and Bynum.


I can only laugh at some of you.


EDIT: Oh yea , and you can have Wade's efficiency , he's a shit shooter who has to go to the paint and flop to the line, sacrificing his knees after every drive to the cup, because he falls to the ground for no reason.

Why you think his knees are ****ed now?

Kobe's mid-range shots > Wade's driving ability

[SamuraiSWISH]

While Kobe was leading a Team with Smush and Kwame to the Playoffs.
Um, Wade did the exact same thing in 2009, and 2010.

[TheReal Kendall]

How the **** does a guy who can't even lead his squad to a deep Playoff birth in the weak ass East bring more to the Court?

Wade isn't shit without a Top 8 player of all time next to him.

While Kobe was leading a Team with Smush and Kwame to the Playoffs.

After that Gasol, Odom and Bynum.


I can only laugh at some of you.

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[mehyaM24]

kobe. wade has no jumpshot and is terrible in crunchtime offensively.

constantly injured too

[HOoopCityJones]

Um, Wade did the exact same thing in 2009, and 2010.

And lost in the weak ass East.

Smh.

Ya'll keep on praising this Bum.


Fact of the matter is the main argument people try to use to discredit Kobe obviously should be applied to Wade the most.

This ho can't win shit without a Top 8 player of all time. The most physically dominating ones at that.

[aj1987]

And lost in the weak ass East.

Smh.

Ya'll keep on praising this Bum.


Fact of the matter is the main argument people try to use to discredit Kobe obviously should be applied to Wade the most.

This ho can't win shit without a Top 8 player of all time. The most physically dominating ones at that.
You should change your name to HoopCityRetard. This is the dumbest post on this board and that is saying a lot.

[red1]

And lost in the weak ass East.

Smh.

Ya'll keep on praising this Bum.


Fact of the matter is the main argument people try to use to discredit Kobe obviously should be applied to Wade the most.

This ho can't win shit without a Top 8 player of all time. The most physically dominating ones at that.
bout to be a four-time champ. hehehe four rangz

[HOoopCityJones]

You should change your name to HoopCityRetard. This is the dumbest post on this board and that is saying a lot.


Got yo feelins hurt though :cheers:

Must be doin something right.


bout to be a four-time champ. hehehe four rangz

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[Solefade]

81


really dude? using regular season accomplishments to prop up your boy? :facepalm

[red1]

81
biggie>tupac

[TheReal Kendall]

Got yo feelins hurt though :cheers:

Must be doin something right.



81

:facepalm

[HOoopCityJones]

really dude? using regular season accomplishments to prop up your boy? :facepalm

That's about all you Bron stans had to argue with before 2011.

Now that ya boy colluded a couple rings together none of it means anything anymore? Dats cute.

[kennethgriffin]

bout to be a four-time champ. hehehe four rangz


rings are worthless if you never won atleast 1 mvp though

otherwise hes just another tommy heinson

that guy lead a few of those celtics teams in points too when they won.

no matter how much the media hates a guy. theyel always give him atleast one mvp if he ever deserved one


kobe, shaq, hakeem were all snubbed a bunch... but they got the award 1 time when the media felt like idiots for snubbing each of them for a decade before that


wade having no mvp and only 2 first team all nba's shows he was mostly a pippen his whole career.. a great player. but not a superstar

[aboss4real24]

wade post game is jus as gud as kobe

[ZaaaaaH]

wade post game is jus as gud as kobe


:roll:

Ish has too many little kids.

[noob cake]

Let's be honest. I hate Kobe as much as anyone, and sincerely believe that he was carried to most of his championship.

..but there is no denying that prime Kobe > prime Wade.

[Cold soul]

Kobe pretty easily.

[Jasper]

Wade for a couple of years had D-league players and still got his team into the playoffs.

Kobe had all-stars and couldn't get far ? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:









:rolleyes:

[Relinquish]

Prime Kobe Bryant
35.4 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 3.1 TPG (45 FG%)

Prime Dwyane Wade
30.2 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 7.5 APG, 2.2 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 3.4 TPG (49 FG%)

Now include the FTA numbers, minutes played, and shot attempts.

[GimmeThat]

Kobe

because I can ask him to guard the 3 for limited amount of minutes if I needed to.