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KobesFinger
06-09-2014, 05:25 PM
According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/06/09/miami-g-dwyane-wade-fined-5-000-for-flopping/10251613/)

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Rubio2Gasol
06-09-2014, 05:26 PM
$5000 :lol

That's like a run of the mill speeding ticket in California :lol

Real14
06-09-2014, 05:29 PM
why haven't Lebron got fined for flopping this postseason yet?:confusedshrug: :coleman:

russwest0
06-09-2014, 05:32 PM
if they need to fine anybody there, it's the ref.

if you aren't going to pay attention to the ball or whats going on then why make the call? the official literally didn't see ginobli do anything yet still felt comfortable calling his 3rd foul on him before the 2nd half. absolutely horrendous call and something you think that'd be inexcusable in the most important game of the season.

it's crazy how bad the officiating is in this sport right now. zero accountability whatsoever. we get the same crappy officials in the finals and playoffs every single year too, probably by coincidence. I strongly doubt out of 100+ officials that the same 5-6 guys grade the highest every single year...

NumberSix
06-09-2014, 05:33 PM
why haven't Lebron got fined for flopping this postseason yet?:confusedshrug: :coleman:
Because he hasn't flopped. :hammerhead:

Real14
06-09-2014, 05:34 PM
Because he hasn't flopped. :hammerhead:
:coleman: :coleman:

oh the horror
06-09-2014, 05:34 PM
if they need to fine anybody there, it's the ref.

if you aren't going to pay attention to the ball or whats going on then why make the call? the official literally didn't see ginobli do anything yet still felt comfortable calling his 3rd foul on him before the 2nd half. absolutely horrendous call and something you think that'd be inexcusable in the most important game of the season.

it's crazy how bad the officiating is in this sport right now. zero accountability whatsoever. we get the same crappy officials in the finals and playoffs every single year too, probably by coincidence. I strongly doubt out of 100+ officials that the same 5-6 guys grade the highest every single year...



Agreed. Calling a foul like that based off of a "reaction" of a player when you didn't see the foul being made seems ridiculous.


The nba has some of the worst officiating overall in all sports.

KobesFinger
06-09-2014, 05:38 PM
Aren't refs supposed to review fouls on the monitors when they don't have a clear view of what happened?

fpliii
06-09-2014, 05:40 PM
Aren't refs supposed to review fouls on the monitors when they don't have a clear view of what happened?
As far as I know they can't review whether or not something was a foul. Just whether it was a flagrant or common foul.

NumberSix
06-09-2014, 05:40 PM
Agreed. Calling a foul like that based off of a "reaction" of a player when you didn't see the foul being made seems ridiculous.


The nba has some of the worst officiating overall in all sports.
Nah, refs should make the best call they can. What should happen, is that after like 3 flops a player should be suspended for a game.

Byobob
06-09-2014, 05:44 PM
Nah, refs should make the best call they can. What should happen, is that after like 3 flops a player should be suspended for a game.


This. The NBA should enforce a more strict rules when it comes to flopping. As an NBA fan, it's disgusting that more and more players do it because it'll give you some advantage.

KyleKong
06-09-2014, 05:45 PM
It's hilarious how everyone is up in arms against Wade when he flopped against the biggest flopper in the NBA history.

kamil
06-09-2014, 05:47 PM
Nah, refs should make the best call they can. What should happen, is that after like 3 flops a player should be suspended for a game.

No;

1st flop is a fine and acts as a warning. Every flop after will be followed by a 1 game suspension WITHOUT PAY.

Of course, that would be terrifying news for Miami and the Clippers.

rule1223
06-09-2014, 05:50 PM
holy shit rewatching that, that is one of the worst calls ive ever seen, the ref does not even see the play at all, see wades reaction, hesistates for a second and then makes a late call

PJR
06-09-2014, 05:51 PM
It's hilarious how everyone is up in arms against Wade when he flopped against the biggest flopper in the NBA history.

Lol funny thing is Manu tried to pull the same crap against Ray Allen in the fourth quarter.

Magic 32
06-09-2014, 05:51 PM
Because he hasn't flopped. :hammerhead:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KnO8sik8e0c/U3GRgCXU2WI/AAAAAAAAGek/5khN-bEjnn0/s1600/2.gif

http://s11.postimg.org/klsc5vvo1/8zkz1.gif

edrick
06-09-2014, 05:55 PM
Lebron flopped there, but he was trying to get away from Joe so he wouldn't pick up a 6th foul.

Also, Manu was flopping all over the damn place at the end of the game. But, I guess since the refs didn't fall for them, no fine?

Solefade
06-09-2014, 05:57 PM
Agreed. Calling a foul like that based off of a "reaction" of a player when you didn't see the foul being made seems ridiculous.


The nba has some of the worst officiating overall in all sports.


it's also the hardest sport to officiate

Jyap9675
06-09-2014, 07:46 PM
It forced Ginobili to sit the rest of second half.. 5k worth it!!!

Marv_Albert
06-09-2014, 07:55 PM
Cash or cheque?

poido123
06-09-2014, 07:57 PM
Like people have said, the NBA needs to crack down hard on it.

Fck warnings, go straight up for a 1 game suspension and fine.

Smook A.
06-09-2014, 07:59 PM
Because he hasn't flopped. :hammerhead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lnV1TQTaxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6pEGO9Vzyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twiZTf95u_8

Sarcastic
06-09-2014, 07:59 PM
Nah, refs should make the best call they can. What should happen, is that after like 3 flops a player should be suspended for a game.

Why wait till 3? A player should be suspended after 1.

DuMa
06-09-2014, 08:00 PM
im okay with this sort of flopping against one the notorious floppers ever

Real14
06-09-2014, 08:01 PM
Why wait till 3? A player should be suspended after 1.
For Lebron's sake:lol

dannywpt
06-09-2014, 08:08 PM
Because he hasn't flopped. :hammerhead:

:roll:

r0drig0lac
06-09-2014, 08:20 PM
if they need to fine anybody there, it's the ref.

if you aren't going to pay attention to the ball or whats going on then why make the call? the official literally didn't see ginobli do anything yet still felt comfortable calling his 3rd foul on him before the 2nd half. absolutely horrendous call and something you think that'd be inexcusable in the most important game of the season.

it's crazy how bad the officiating is in this sport right now. zero accountability whatsoever. we get the same crappy officials in the finals and playoffs every single year too, probably by coincidence. I strongly doubt out of 100+ officials that the same 5-6 guys grade the highest every single year...
agree, and the player must be suspended (whoever he is)

ProfessorMurder
06-09-2014, 09:00 PM
Awesome how that doesn't eliminate putting Manu into foul trouble when he was having a good half.

Warfan
06-09-2014, 09:01 PM
They should fine Manu for this bullshit too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKSsGA9_S1A

Relinquish
06-09-2014, 09:23 PM
It's hilarious how everyone is up in arms against Wade when he flopped against the biggest flopper in the NBA history.

2nd biggest, you're forgetting Divac.

poido123
06-09-2014, 09:36 PM
They should fine Manu for this bullshit too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKSsGA9_S1A


Oh absolutely.

Flopping by any player should not be tolerated. An automatic 1 game suspension will stop it.

stalkerforlife
06-09-2014, 09:56 PM
:applause:

plowking
06-09-2014, 09:58 PM
Did Splitter get one last game?

Did Manu get one for the one at the end of the game? How about Danny Green? How about Parker for two flops in the last two minutes? No.

Hmm...

MavsSuperFan
06-09-2014, 10:07 PM
wade wasnt flopping. Manu is stinky foreigner and his odor affected Wade.

DonDadda59
06-09-2014, 10:30 PM
That's like 5 cents for Wade. Why not give steeper penalties or even start suspending guys for flopping?

Meticode
06-09-2014, 10:31 PM
if they need to fine anybody there, it's the ref.

if you aren't going to pay attention to the ball or whats going on then why make the call? the official literally didn't see ginobli do anything yet still felt comfortable calling his 3rd foul on him before the 2nd half. absolutely horrendous call and something you think that'd be inexcusable in the most important game of the season.

it's crazy how bad the officiating is in this sport right now. zero accountability whatsoever. we get the same crappy officials in the finals and playoffs every single year too, probably by coincidence. I strongly doubt out of 100+ officials that the same 5-6 guys grade the highest every single year...
We're human, you can't expect them to even make 99% of calls correct in a game. If the official is positioned in the correct area, but he's behind the player "apparently" getting hit, if you can't see the contact, but you see the reaction you're going to call it.

Meticode
06-09-2014, 10:32 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KnO8sik8e0c/U3GRgCXU2WI/AAAAAAAAGek/5khN-bEjnn0/s1600/2.gif

http://s11.postimg.org/klsc5vvo1/8zkz1.gif
This awesome. He just falls down. :oldlol:

dgaras
06-09-2014, 11:27 PM
They should fine Manu for this bullshit too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKSsGA9_S1A

definitely overreacted but still got hit

Straight_Ballin
06-09-2014, 11:30 PM
if they need to fine anybody there, it's the ref.

if you aren't going to pay attention to the ball or whats going on then why make the call? the official literally didn't see ginobli do anything yet still felt comfortable calling his 3rd foul on him before the 2nd half. absolutely horrendous call and something you think that'd be inexcusable in the most important game of the season.

it's crazy how bad the officiating is in this sport right now. zero accountability whatsoever. we get the same crappy officials in the finals and playoffs every single year too, probably by coincidence. I strongly doubt out of 100+ officials that the same 5-6 guys grade the highest every single year...

Weak officiating in a weak era who's rule maker is too big of a beta to issue out suspensions for flopping. That would clean it up real quick and restore some integrity to the sport.

gts
06-09-2014, 11:35 PM
I always wonder if when the refs get together at some annual refs convention or whatever they do if they have like highlight films of the times they got suckered into calling a foul on a flop...

That would be a great video compilation.. organize the flops not by the players but by the gullible sap that believed it

Adam Silver
06-10-2014, 03:30 AM
I told everybody justice would be served.

poido123
06-10-2014, 03:33 AM
Did Splitter get one last game?

Did Manu get one for the one at the end of the game? How about Danny Green? How about Parker for two flops in the last two minutes? No.

Hmm...


Manu should of got a fine, so should Splitter.

Forget fines, these guys should be getting suspensions.

kureyşi-gospurs
06-10-2014, 03:47 AM
According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/06/09/miami-g-dwyane-wade-fined-5-000-for-flopping/10251613/)

https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/856207399.gif

League's gotta slam harder. 5k don't mean s%^& to a damn superstar.

pauk
06-10-2014, 03:52 AM
As an NBA fan, it's disgusting that more and more players do it because it'll give you some advantage.

Thats not true man.... any type of flopping has been taking place at the same velocity in any NBA era, it has always been part of the game.... defensively taking a charge or offensively drawing a foul using ripthrough, jump into defender after a headfake, sell the call... and all of them you sure will be coached into performing sooner or later playing organized basketball, they are part of the fundamentals.... the most commendable out of those is taking a charge... hell, making the most out of those could put you on the 1st all-defensive team.... yet if you fail one, as in manage to make one look to much like a flop, you will only today be fined....

The thing is its only now that flopping gets that type of resentment from the league (and fans perhaps) only if it comes in very obvious context.... Why? I am not sure, something i guess could be part of the cause is the era we are in, where every single move you make is recorded from all angles in 1080p and 1000 fps and avaliable on any device & format and where every game is avaliable to any human on earth who has todays internet and hence causing fans & the league to grumble over what has actually been happening forever.... players dont flop more today, hell they maybe even flop less, who knows, the only difference now is that every flop (including everything else) is thoroughly inspected and observed at the highest type of nature by anybody thanks to the technology....

JZ600
06-10-2014, 03:53 AM
$5000 for dwade is roughly $15 for an average american. nice

GimmeThat
06-10-2014, 04:02 AM
this was not what I was expecting about ISH posters bringing a poster to the game.

OG LeeTSkeeT
06-10-2014, 06:26 AM
spurs lost by 2

Flash31
06-10-2014, 06:42 AM
I always wonder if when the refs get together at some annual refs convention or whatever they do if they have like highlight films of the times they got suckered into calling a foul on a flop...

That would be a great video compilation.. organize the flops not by the players but by the gullible sap that believed it


Highly Highly doubt it
Hardens been going strong for several seasons and he gets fined once or twice a season at Most.

It'll never work and not bc almost all the big names flop but bc the league has a preference for what they call a flop and for whom.


Just imagine a league where they actually tried to stop it and suspended players for it

Harden,Cp3,Ginobili,Stephenson,Blake would play like half a season
Durant,LeBron,Parker,WestBrook would be suspended for 20-30 games
and that's not mentioning

Wade,Curry,Hibbert,Dirk,Splitter,Noah,Melo,Irving

Who wants to watch 20-30 games+ a year of their team with NO Star Players AT ALL.The league wouldn't allow it.


Imagine ALL NBA 1st,2nd,3rd Teams and National Games
What is the Thunder without WB,KD,the LaC,Mia,SAS,IND,GS,Hou without their stars?

aj1987
06-10-2014, 06:48 AM
Highly Highly doubt it
Hardens been going strong for several seasons and he gets fined once or twice a season at Most.

It'll never work and not bc almost all the big names flop but bc the league has a preference for what they call a flop and for whom.


Just imagine a league where they actually tried to stop it and suspended players for it

Harden,Cp3,Ginobili,Stephenson,Blake would play like half a season
Durant,LeBron,Parker,WestBrook would be suspended for 20-30 games
and that's not mentioning

Wade,Curry,Hibbert,Dirk,Splitter,Noah,Melo,Irving

Who wants to watch 20-30 games+ a year of their team with NO Star Players AT ALL.The league wouldn't allow it.


Imagine ALL NBA 1st,2nd,3rd Teams and National Games
What is the Thunder without WB,KD,the LaC,Mia,SAS,IND,GS,Hou without their stars?
They would stop flopping if they got suspended. Wade make like $30M this year. Do you think $5,000 is gonna bother him? That's chump change to him. He could be fined $5,000 for every game that he plays in the season and even that wouldn't hurt his account.

Nuff Said
06-10-2014, 07:46 AM
Thats not true man.... any type of flopping has been taking place at the same velocity in any NBA era, it has always been part of the game.... defensively taking a charge or offensively drawing a foul using ripthrough, jump into defender after a headfake, sell the call... and all of them you sure will be coached into performing sooner or later playing organized basketball, they are part of the fundamentals.... the most commendable out of those is taking a charge... hell, making the most out of those could put you on the 1st all-defensive team.... yet if you fail one, as in manage to make one look to much like a flop, you will only today be fined....

The thing is its only now that flopping gets that type of resentment from the league (and fans perhaps) only if it comes in very obvious context.... Why? I am not sure, something i guess could be part of the cause is the era we are in, where every single move you make is recorded from all angles in 1080p and 1000 fps and avaliable on any device & format and where every game is avaliable to any human on earth who has todays internet and hence causing fans & the league to grumble over what has actually been happening forever.... players dont flop more today, hell they maybe even flop less, who knows, the only difference now is that every flop (including everything else) is thoroughly inspected and observed at the highest type of nature by anybody thanks to the technology....

Do you really believe this bullshit you are spouting? Flopping has definitely been increasing over the years. There's no question about it.

AT9
06-10-2014, 07:53 AM
Easy to crack down on an ugly old racist, not easy to really crack down on your superstar money-maker in the finals, huh Silver?

I really have trouble watching NBA games right now. The obvious flopping (let's call it what it is, cheating/lying), jumping sideways into players in the air on a shot and getting free throws, touching a guy on the 3 point shot AFTER the ball is released and getting called for a foul, and of course the general inconsistency throughout a game. I think I'm done with watching the NBA for now until they fix this sh!t (after the finals, of course...).

edrick
06-10-2014, 08:01 AM
Did Splitter get one last game?

Did Manu get one for the one at the end of the game? How about Danny Green? How about Parker for two flops in the last two minutes? No.

Hmm...

Splitter flops too. Imagine if the refs called every legit foul and every flop (if flops were more than fines). most of the starters wouldn't be in at the end of games. :oldlol:

East_Stone_Ya
06-10-2014, 08:13 AM
rightfully so