How good was Anfernee Hardaway?

[Fudge]

Didn't really get to watch him in his prime.

Anybody want to educate me? I heard MCW plays like him.

[Kblaze8855]

Better than James Harden despite the numbers. Worse than pre falling off Wade.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Anfernee*

[Marchesk]

Wonder if he's salty that Shaq left? They had the potential to win multiple chips in Orlando.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Better than James Harden despite the numbers. Worse than pre falling off Wade.
That's a pretty big gap between Harden and prime Wade. Prime Wade was probably as good as any 2 guard has ever been minus MJ.

[Akrazotile]

Anniferyknee*

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Wonder if he's salty that Shaq left? They had the potential to win multiple chips in Orlando.
That Orlando team sort of reminds me of the current Thunder (not in style of play but just because of the 1-2 punch of an insanely athletic PG and a dominant scorer)

[plowking]

Wonder if he's salty that Shaq left? They had the potential to win multiple chips in Orlando.

Didn't Shaq leave due to reports that Hardaway was gay, and was having a relationship with the director of Blue Chips or something? I remember someone posting up an article about it.

[Myth]

Didn't Shaq leave due to reports that Hardaway was gay, and was having a relationship with the director of Blue Chips or something? I remember someone posting up an article about it.

That is one rumor I have never heard before.

[Akrazotile]

Didn't Shaq leave due to reports that Hardaway was gay, and was having a relationship with the director of Blue Chips or something? I remember someone posting up an article about it.


:roll:

Sounds fake as hell but at the same time hilarious that someone made it up.

[gyu]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/189/9/c/tracy_mcgrady_orlando_magic_wallpaper_by_lisong24k obe-d56gp56.jpg


OR


http://fansunfiltered.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Penny.jpg

[greymatter]

When Shaq's thumb was broken by Matt Geiger, he got to be the main man and played well enough to be considered the 2nd best wing player behind MJ. Unfortunately, we never got a chance to see how high his peak could have been.

His knee was already messed up in his 4th season.

[inclinerator]

not as good as penny

[Kiddlovesnets]

poor man's Tracy Mcgrady.

[kureyşi-gospurs]

Didn't really get to watch him in his prime.

Anybody want to educate me? I heard MCW plays like him.

He was flat-out sensational. Love watching his highlights. Only 2x All NBA First Team player to not have made it to HOF.

[pauk]

Prime Penny was one of those guys you would think was arguably the best perimeter player in the NBA by just seeing him play, the guy had it all..... seeing his stats later on you would be shocked at how/why they were that low.

[Soundwave]

Really good player, I think he'd probably more like a 23-25 ppg scorer in the modern NBA with the more lax perimeter foul calls and lack of interior rim protection. He was willing to defer to Shaq.

Ball handling and passing ability is better than any big guard today (LeBron included). Was pretty damn good in the clutch too. Good shooter.

Not quite as athletic or long as McGrady, T-Mac was the better pure scorer, but Penny was better in other areas.

[Dragonyeuw]

Really good player, I think he'd probably more like a 23-25 ppg scorer in the modern NBA with the more lax perimeter foul calls and lack of interior rim protection. He was willing to defer to Shaq.

Ball handling and passing ability is better than any big guard today (LeBron included). Was pretty damn good in the clutch too. Good shooter.

Not quite as athletic or long as McGrady, T-Mac was the better pure scorer, but Penny was better in other areas.

I think he'd put up more than 23-25 today. I mean back in 96, when Shaq was injured he was putting up 27 for a period of time, and the league is now built for a perimeter player with his gifts. Easy 27-7-6 player in todays league.

[Soundwave]

I think he'd put up more than 23-25 today. I mean back in 96, when Shaq was injured he was putting up 27 for a period of time, and the league is now built for a perimeter player with his gifts. Easy 27-7-6 player in todays league.

Yeah Penny did have the ability to score more than he did, but he definitely was a guy who could be just as happy with 20/night but just more assists/rebounds.

He was one of the most difficult covers for Scottie Pippen that I remember seeing.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He'd be like a 23/7 type of player today. He's not scoring 27. Especially with the emphasis being put on efficiency these days.

Only like 2 players score more than 27 today: Durant and Melo. And Melo probably would be around roughly 25 on a proper team.

[jbryan1984]

Good enough to become the first player who had a puppet mascot......

Seriously though, he was one of my favorites growing up. A SF who played PG. He was probably the best point guard in the east at one point. Not really a defender but a scorer. Idk who I could compare him to today. Once he went to Phoenix, everything went down hill with injuries. A shell of himself in New York. His short Miami run I just pretend didnt happen.

[tmacattack33]

A little worse than Prime Wade.

Better than prime Iverson and current Westbrook.

[tmacattack33]

Prime Penny was one of those guys you would think was arguably the best perimeter player in the NBA by just seeing him play, the guy had it all..... seeing his stats later on you would be shocked at how/why they were that low.

But then if later you saw him in interviews and stuff you would realize that he is humble and unselfish and so you wouldn't be shocked at his "low" stats, because you would just realize he wanted to make the right play and didn't care about his own stats.

And he also had Shaq as his team's first option during his peak. If you look at his numbers when Shaq was injured for 25 games in Penny's best year, I think they are about 27 ppg and 6 apg which is great...while leading the Shaq-less Magic to about a 19-6 record or something over those 25 games.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Overrated over time like all 90s stars

[crisoner]

Overrated over time like all 90s stars

Agreed

[tmacattack33]

I got the stats... in the first 23 games of the 1996 season, Shaq was out and Orlando was Penny's team.

He put up: 25.9 ppg, 7.0 apg, and 5.3 rpg, on .500 FG% and .616 TS%.

Orlando went 18-5 in that 23 game period.

[WillC]

He was flat-out sensational. Love watching his highlights. Only 2x All NBA First Team player to not have made it to HOF.

Wrong.

Paul Westphal (3 x All-NBA 1st Team) and Alex Groza (2 x All-NBA 1st Team) aren't in the Hall of Fame either.

Nice try though.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

poor man's Tracy Mcgrady.

are you kidding me? Penny was all around better player then Tracy was. Tracy was a terrific scorer, I will give you that but Penny had court vision very few had.

Could of easily been top 20 all time if it weren't for injuries.

[Bobby13]

Ask Jameer, he's the expert :oldlol:

[julizaver]

He was a fantastic young player, quick athletic and extremely talented - but how good he could be ? Based on what I see during his 3 first three seasons (when healthy) he was not the selfish, so probably in his prime he will not be 27-28 - 29 ppg scorer, but he would be more of a 23-24 ppg (0.500-0.520 FG/FGA), 5-6 rebs and 7-8 assists (for around 38-40 minutes per game) player.

Anyway if required (as when Shaq departures) he could be an efficient scorer also as one the previous poster shows, so we will not definitely know how his career would go since Penny was very versatile and could play PG, SG and SF positions.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He was better than every guard since Jordan, apart from Kobe, and Wade.

The only player since that reminds me of him, or plays similar is Shaun Livingston. Penny had a better jumper, and scoring arsenal though. Also one of the most unique, elite polished post games right out the gates that I've ever seen.

And yes, sidenote there has for a long time been rumors of him being gay. Shaq, and him not so coincidentally had ego clashes. Shaq has them everywhere he goes. Orlando, LA, Miami, Phoenix, TNT, the list goes on.

[Burgz V2]

Didn't really get to watch him in his prime.

Anybody want to educate me? I heard MCW plays like him.

awesome. one of the few players who could blow by elite defenders off a live dribble before hand checking was outlawed. Great two-way talent, but could have been better had the knee injuries not slowed him down.

i think the MCW comparisons come from his physical attributes and playing position mostly. Penny was winner the second he came into the league. Obviously MCW doesn't have a player of the calibre of Shaq to run with, but I'd like to see what he can do in games that are not meaningless :lol

Great talent though, not hate, love his game.

[Meticode]

He was better than every guard since Jordan, apart from Kobe, and Wade.
Do you mean better in terms of talent? If not, I can name Iverson, McGrady and Ray Allen for a few more.

[jlip]

He was a fantastic young player, quick athletic and extremely talented - but how good he could be ? Based on what I see during his 3 first three seasons (when healthy) he was not the selfish, so probably in his prime he will not be 27-28 - 29 ppg scorer, but he would be more of a 23-24 ppg (0.500-0.520 FG/FGA), 5-6 rebs and 7-8 assists (for around 38-40 minutes per game) player.

Anyway if required (as when Shaq departures) he could be an efficient scorer also as one the previous poster shows, so we will not definitely know how his career would go since Penny was very versatile and could play PG, SG and SF positions.

This

[SamuraiSWISH]

Do you mean better in terms of talent? If not, I can name Iverson, McGrady and Ray Allen for a few more.
I always considered McGrady a SF. But if you consider him a SG, you'd be right. Iverson has a case, but not so definitive. I think Penny was better than Ray Allen. More dimensional given his playmaking, and passing abilities. The only players with cases as good, or better are Chris Paul, Allen Iverson, and if you consider McGrady a guard or not.

[JellyBean]

Didn't really get to watch him in his prime.

Anybody want to educate me? I heard MCW plays like him.


Anfernee was really good. One year, maybe his second season in the league, with Shaq sideline with an injury, Penny led the Orlando Magic to a 17-5 start. He was averaging 27-28 points a game during the early part of the season. The dude could have been among the greats of the league if it wasn't for injuries.

[edrick]

Penny had a lot of talent, his game was comparable to Jordan. Lots of potential there. Injuries ****ed him over good though, as we all know.

[Young X]

He'd easily be a top 5 player today. If not top 3. No one would be able to handle his size and post game at the PG position.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Westbrook >>> Hardaway

[RedBlackAttack]

Didn't Shaq leave due to reports that Hardaway was gay, and was having a relationship with the director of Blue Chips or something? I remember someone posting up an article about it.
:wtf:

Never heard that one.



...not that there's anything wrong with that.

[smoovegittar]

poor man's Tracy Mcgrady.
This post right here shows us how absolutely fukking stupid you are. The next Jameer. Better go back to Youtube, kid.