Would having Andrew Bogut healthy in the playoffs of got Warriors past the Clippers?

[All Net]

Series went 7 and Jordan did have his way. How far would the Warriors of gone if Bogut hadn't got hurt right before the playoffs?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Yes.

[poido123]

No doubt.

It was a travesty to see Warriors fizzle out of contention like that.

I honestly don't know how far they would of gone, but if you used last season as a barometer, Warriors were capable of reaching the finals, based on taking the Spurs to 6 with an inferior team to this current one.

[Solefade]

for sure, i reckon the warriors might have gotten past the thunder too

[tanner892]

Andrew Bogus

[Milbuck]

Yeah, without a doubt. I think they would've given OKC a hell of a series as well. That team had a really high ceiling, they were just never able to develop strong consistency. Between injuries to Iggy and Bogut, along with the tension with Mark Jackson, they were never in a position to fulfill their potential. Curry also underperformed.

[poido123]

Yeah, without a doubt. I think they would've given OKC a hell of a series as well. That team had a really high ceiling, they were just never able to develop strong consistency. Between injuries to Iggy and Bogut, along with the tension with Mark Jackson, they were never in a position to fulfill their potential. Curry also underperformed.


Do you think Kerr's influence on the team could help?

I honestly think Jackson was a motivator and didn't do much on the coaching side.

When you watch them play, all their plays are reactionary. They don't look at all organised or in any kind of pattern of passing.

A video game style if you will.

[Solefade]

Do you think Kerr's influence on the team could help?

I honestly think Jackson was a motivator and didn't do much on the coaching side.

When you watch them play, all their plays are reactionary. They don't look at all organised or in any kind of pattern of passing.

A video game style if you will.


Kerr seems to be a very self aware and knowledgable guy and definitely knows what the team needs...the only downside is that he's a first year head coach w/ no experience

[GimmeThat]

Maybe.

In the case we assume that Bogut never got injured and would have never had any decline.

As for a Prime Bogut, then most likely.

[stalkerforlife]

Yes.

David Lee did an admirable job, but it was too much to ask out of a 6'9 skinny guy to hold Jordan down.

[Milbuck]

Do you think Kerr's influence on the team could help?

I honestly think Jackson was a motivator and didn't do much on the coaching side.

When you watch them play, all their plays are reactionary. They don't look at all organised or in any kind of pattern of passing.

A video game style if you will.
It depends, I really have no idea what kind of coach Kerr is. He doesn't seem remotely close to being the motivator Jackson was, he's just not that guy. He's always been more of a reserved, analytical guy, which makes me think he's going to be more of an X's and O's coach. Which honestly would be the perfect fit for this team, because of the bolded part in your post. They have a bunch of highly motivated guys, lot of good leadership, and a lot of unselfish players. No knuckleheads or chemistry killers. What they need desperately is an offensive system with a ton of ball movement and efficient floor spacing. They've never had that at an elite level with Jackson. It's been hidden with insane shooters like Curry and Thompson, but watching them in the playoffs these past two years...they take some ridiculously tough shots against tough defenses. With a more technical coach with a system that could make their offense more structured, that team is going to be a nightmare. I shudder to think what Curry and Thompson would do in an organized offense, with more spacing, time, etc.

[poido123]

Kerr seems to be a very self aware and knowledgable guy and definitely knows what the team needs...the only downside is that he's a first year head coach w/ no experience


I honestly envisioned great things if he went to the knicks and saw him turning that franchise around. At least there he could make mistakes and not lose his job.

However not to be.

Warriors won't give him the same leeway as he would have with the Knicks.

A lot of his success is going to hinge on Bogut's health.

[poido123]

It depends, I really have no idea what kind of coach Kerr is. He doesn't seem remotely close to being the motivator Jackson was, he's just not that guy. He's always been more of a reserved, analytical guy, which makes me think he's going to be more of an X's and O's coach. Which honestly would be the perfect fit for this team, because of the bolded part in your post. They have a bunch of highly motivated guys, lot of good leadership, and a lot of unselfish players. No knuckleheads or chemistry killers. What they need desperately is an offensive system with a ton of ball movement and efficient floor spacing. They've never had that at an elite level with Jackson. It's been hidden with insane shooters like Curry and Thompson, but watching them in the playoffs these past two years...they take some ridiculously tough shots against tough defenses. With a more technical coach with a system that could make their offense more structured, that team is going to be a nightmare. I shudder to think what Curry and Thompson would do in an organized offense, with more spacing, time, etc.


Jeff Hornacek lite IMO :lol

[SillyRabbit]

It depends, I really have no idea what kind of coach Kerr is. He doesn't seem remotely close to being the motivator Jackson was, he's just not that guy. He's always been more of a reserved, analytical guy, which makes me think he's going to be more of an X's and O's coach. Which honestly would be the perfect fit for this team, because of the bolded part in your post. They have a bunch of highly motivated guys, lot of good leadership, and a lot of unselfish players. No knuckleheads or chemistry killers. What they need desperately is an offensive system with a ton of ball movement and efficient floor spacing. They've never had that at an elite level with Jackson. It's been hidden with insane shooters like Curry and Thompson, but watching them in the playoffs these past two years...they take some ridiculously tough shots against tough defenses. With a more technical coach with a system that could make their offense more structured, that team is going to be a nightmare. I shudder to think what Curry and Thompson would do in an organized offense, with more spacing, time, etc.

Replace Jackson with Brooks.

Replace Curry and Thompson with Durant and Westbrook.

And you could literally re-post this exact same thing for the Thunder.

OKC BADLY needs a coach like Kerr. Wish management wasn't too cheap to fire Brooks.

[SacJB Shady]

Series went 7 and Jordan did have his way. How far would the Warriors of gone if Bogut hadn't got hurt right before the playoffs?


Yes they would have won

[SwishSquared]

If Bogut being healthy is only thing that changes, they have a really really good shot at beating the Clippers. One thing to consider though is that from a 2-way perspective, the Warriors' most dominant line-up was (according to what I read leading up to beginning of series- can't find the stats now):
Curry-Thompson-Iggy-Green-Bogut.

If you keep Lee-Bogut tandem, it's possible for Griffin to outplay Lee or more likely, Bogut to stick to Griffin. That leaves Lee to fend off Jordan, which might not have worked in favor of GSW. I think Bogut definitely decreases Jordan's effectiveness (who had some stellar defensive moments) but if they continued playing a 2-big line-up most of the time, I think it's definitely possible for Clippers to still win the series.

With Bogut out and Lee playing C, having 4 perimeter-oriented guys helped spread the floor for GSW and made it difficult for the Clippers to defend (especially when Griffin & Jordan were both on the court). This detail added a new wrinkle to the Warrior's offense and impacted the series, too. Obviously, Lee isn't a superb rim protector, so that hurt them in some respects, mainly defensively and on the glass.

Regarding next year's outlook, I think Kerr installs some structured offense, which will help them this team reach their theoretical offensive ceiling. Kerr's not a motivator, but this team may rally around his bball smarts if they fully trust him and buy-in. If they have a coaching staff that can handle the motivational aspect of the game, then that's good enough imo. Motivation's important, but going forward, proper bball strategy is more important for this team's success.

[Legends66NBA7]

I pegged them to win it with a healthy Bogut. I would go one step further and say they could have probably gone to the WCF too.

[joeyjoejoe]

If refs weren't bias clips still win, and even if they did what chance would they have had against okc refs

[bdreason]

Can't really say. We are obviously better with Bogut, but it would have been a completely different series. Clippers with HCA are still the favorite, even if we have Bogut.

[bigkingsfan]

If he wasn't so injury prone, the bucks wouldn't have traded him in the first place.

[All Net]

Be interesting who they go for this summer FA wise if they don't get love.

[senelcoolidge]

Bogut would really have been an extra 6 fouls. He can defend the interior some, but he's not enough for the Warriors to beat the Clippers.

[AboutBuckets]

Do you think Kerr's influence on the team could help?

I honestly think Jackson was a motivator and didn't do much on the coaching side.

When you watch them play, all their plays are reactionary. They don't look at all organised or in any kind of pattern of passing.

A video game style if you will.

Which is why I think Lionel Hollins would have been a better fit than Kerr (not a knock against him at all, just that the Warriors need a more disciplined, seasoned coach IMO).

Hollins' Grizzlies' calling card was their consistency on the defensive end, which with a healthy Bogut and Iggy would have been a refreshing thing for Warriors fans to see. Hollins is a coach that gets a bad rap for underachieving offensively when in reality he was just playing within his means/personel. With this super-charged Warrior offense, those means would have been much greater than what he was working with in Memphis and I think the resulting product would be a more polished and consistent game

[Inferno]

Yes. Jordan killed us inside.