All time defensive starting 5?

[Im Still Ballin]

Mines

PG: Gary Payton
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Scottie Pippen
PF: Ben Wallace
C: Kevin Garnett

Pippen is interchangeable with Lebron and Jordan is with Michael Cooper.

*at their best playing 100% defense*

Wasnt sure about KG at center, could have gone with Hakeem and then KG at PF but I really like Ben Wallace at PF, bit of a smaller, quicker line-up.

Whats your 5?

[Jlamb47]

Mines

PG: Gary Payton
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Scottie Pippen
PF: Ben Wallace
C: Kevin Garnett

Pippen is interchangeable with Lebron and Jordan is with Michael Cooper.

*at their best playing 100% defense*

Wasnt sure about KG at center, could have gone with Hakeem and then KG at PF but I really like Ben Wallace at PF, bit of a smaller, quicker line-up.

Whats your 5?

ben was a center and KG is a PF

Gary Payton
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Tim Duncan
Hakeem Oljuwon

[Im Still Ballin]

ben was a center and KG is a PF

Gary Payton
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Tim Duncan
Hakeem Oljuwon
Flaw.

You can do better than Timmy for a PF

[Jlamb47]

Flaw.

You can do better than Timmy for a PF

He got better D then KG and Ben
KG is Duncans B1tch

[Im Still Ballin]

He got better D then KG and Ben
KG is Duncans B1tch
Duncan is better defensively at C

I still rate KG better on D at the center position than Timmy. Ben Wallace is the perfect PF defender.

[D-FENS]

Bill Russell
Kevin Garnett
Bruce Bowen
Michael Jordan
Gary Payton

4 ex-Celtics - not bad

[GimmeThat]

Magic Johnson
Lebron James
Ron Artest
Serge Ibaka
Dennis Rodman


I'm delusional

[Harison]

I would go with a very tall and quick GOAT defensively starting 5:

C Russell
PF Hakeem
SF Garnett
SG Pippen
PG Jordan

Good luck scoring on that :cheers:

[BoutPractice]

Gary Payton
Michael Cooper
Scottie Pippen
Kevin Garnett
Bill Russell

Good luck :cheers:

[hateraid]

Gary Payton
Bruce Bowen
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman
Dikembe Mutombo


If you really want to get nasty

Gary Payton
Scottie Pippen
Bobby Jones
Dennis Rodman
Dikembe Mutombo

/thread

[SHAQisGOAT]

1st team...

G: Payton
G: Moncrief
F: Pippen
F: Garnett
C: Russell


2nd team...

G: Frazier
G: Cooper
F: Rodman
F: Bobby Jones
C: Hakeem

[T_L_P]

Gary Payton
Sidney Moncrief
Scottie Pippen
Tim Duncan
Bill Walton

[Jlamb47]

Gary Payton
Bruce Bowen
Scottie Pippen
Serge ibaka
Mutombo

[T_L_P]

Gary Payton
Bruce Bowen
Scottie Pippen
Serge ibaka
Mutombo

Is that a favourite or GOAT list, because Serge Ibaka and Mutombo?

[SsKSpurs21]

PG: Gary Payton
SG: Scottie Pippen
SF: Bruce Bowen
PF: David Robinson
C: Hakeem Olajuwon

[SHAQisGOAT]

Flaw.

You can do better than Timmy for a PF

Very few... Still a great choice.

[Nikola_]

Harper
Jordan
Pippen
Rodman
Ben

who needs payton when you have pippen

[hateraid]

1st team...

G: Payton
G: Moncrief
F: Pippen
F: Garnett
C: Russell


2nd team...

G: Frazier
G: Cooper
F: Rodman
F: Bobby Jones
C: Hakeem


Personally I take Cooper over Moncrief 1st team due to size. But as a specialist I would take Bowen over either of them. Bowen could very well be the perfect creation to stop the shooting guard position. No DPOY was being not recognized as a specialist being overlooked by more complete players

[T_L_P]

You might as well have two defensive Centers.

The SF can pretty do what you'd expect the prototypical defensive PF to do (ala KG). Sure, the PF gives you better rim protection, but it doesn't compare to what Robinson, Hakeem, Duncan can do inside.

[hateraid]

Harper
Jordan
Pippen
Rodman
Ben

who needs payton when you have pippen

Because Payton can move laterally with the likes of AI, Tim Hardaway, Kevin Johnson.. and all those other laterally quick players that Pippen couldn't

[hateraid]

Is that a favourite or GOAT list, because Serge Ibaka and Mutombo?

You're kidding about Mutombo right? mutombo literally changes the game purely on being intimidating in front of the rim. Watch the 2000 ASG and why Brown traded half his bigs for Mutombo. He's my choices for the best defensive specialist center of all-time

[Jlamb47]

Is that a favourite or GOAT list, because Serge Ibaka and Mutombo?

Nah my list is up top

my original was

gary
michael
pippen
duncan
hakeem

i was jus making other list for fun

[sd3035]

Garnett is a scrawny bltch, he was abused by larger men all the time. Putting him on these lists is ridiculous, especially at center or PF

[Dr.J4ever]

1st team...

G: Payton
G: Moncrief
F: Pippen
F: Garnett
C: Russell


2nd team...

G: Frazier
G: Cooper
F: Rodman
F: Bobby Jones
C: Hakeem


Bobby Jones wasn't just a great defender, he was a clutch defender. The number of times he made a key steal or block late in games is the stuff of legend in Philly.:bowdown:

[Im Still Ballin]

Garnett is a scrawny bltch, he was abused by larger men all the time. Putting him on these lists is ridiculous, especially at center or PF
Who?

I got my niqqa Ben Wallace for them chubby ones.

[Adam Silver]

1. Joe Crawford
2. Dick Bavetta
3. Dan Crawford
4. Ken Mauer
5. Norm Drucker

Honorable mention: Steve Javie

[annbafan]

He got better D then KG and Ben


they're about the same at the rim, but can Duncan guard wing players like Garnett? and how about saving games with the steal?

[T_L_P]

they're about the same at the rim, but can Duncan guard wing players like Garnett? and how about saving games with the steal?

Garnett is about the same at the rim? :facepalm

[Im Still Ballin]

Garnett is about the same at the rim? :facepalm
Take the L and accept reality, junior.

[T_L_P]

Take the L and accept reality, junior.

Garnett isn't as good of a rim protector as Duncan. I've never seen anyone make that claim. :facepalm

[lakerspng]

Scottie Pippen
Michael Jordan
Dennis Rodman
Kevin Garnet
Ben Wallace

I do believe the glass would be covered.

Maybe the occasional super fast small guard gets past Pip and MJ on the perimeter but the wall inside should be able to close in fast enough to protect the rim. (main reason I chose Garnet over Duncan, his quickness and mobility for a second layer of defense)

Offensively they would have some weaknesses, but I doubt anyone puts up more than 70 points on them, so between Pip (15-20) MJ (30-35) and KG (17-25) that should be enough scoring to win 95% of games. Ben and Rodman would get 10-15 ppg on offensive rebounds and putbacks alone.

[Fudge]

Russell Westbrook
Michael Jordan
Kevin Durant
Serge Ibaka
Hakeem Olajuwon

[annbafan]

Garnett is about the same at the rim? :facepalm

Garnett spent a lot of time defending away from the paint in his prime, so his shot blocking numbers are a bit low and make him look worse of a rim protector than he actually is.

these questions still remain unanswered...


can Duncan guard wing players like Garnett? and how about saving games with the steal?

[T_L_P]

Garnett spent a lot of time defending away from the paint in his prime, so his shot blocking numbers are a bit low and make him look worse of a rim protector than he actually is.

these questions still remain unanswered...

Of course Garnett is the better perimeter defender, and I'm not even saying Duncan is the better overall defender (the two are almost inseparable) , but to assert Garnett is as good of an interior defender is insane. Garnett would literally be better than him at all facets of defense, which, again, is absurd. Duncan was a better post defender, better shot blocker, better at rotating, and he filled up a lot more space (ie could single handedly guard the paint).

Garnett is a very good interior defender, but he's not on Duncan's level.