So If Everyone Loves The Spurs Style Then Why.......

[Dro]

Why is it not appreciated more? There's tons of Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Melo, etc..stans...They appreciate the individual....Where's the Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, and Leonard stans? Why are there like 2 Spurs fans on this forum? Why do we buy into the hype of individual stars? Why don't more teams build like the Spurs with a team concept? I felt like Indiana tried to do that, but we don't have the coaching and the high IQ/great passers that the Spurs have.

[JohnnySic]

Because casual fans do not industand the x's and o's of basketball. They understand dunks and whatever else ESPN spoon feeds them.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

See Thunder 2012, almost every Lakers series, etc etc.

The ideal is this kind of team, with a unplayable offensive option at the top - like a Kober or a Dirk or a Melo -, bought into the read and react system. Tony Parker is actually kinda playing that role, but he's not as good as those guys are. If you think this team would not be better with them. you're kidding yourself.

2011 Mavs would definitely beat this team, just because of Dirk. He would force them to adjust to him and their defensive sets would go out the window. Right now it's like stealing candy from a baby, they're in their comfort zone 40/48 minutes a game.

[Rocketswin2013]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

See Thunder 2012, almost every Lakers series, etc etc.

The ideal is this kind of team, with a unplayable offensive option at the top - like a Kober or a Dirk or a Melo -, bought into the read and react system. Tony Parker is actually kinda playing that role, but he's not as good as those guys are. If you think this team would not be better with them. you're kidding yourself.

2011 Mavs would definitely beat this team, just because of Dirk. He would force them to adjust to him and their defensive sets would go out the window. Right now it's like stealing candy from a baby, they're in their comfort zone 40/48 minutes a game.
THIS!!!!!

[Dro]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

See Thunder 2012.

The ideal is this kind of team, with a unplayable offensive option at the top - like a Kober or a Dirk or a Melo -, bought into the read and react system. Tony Parker is actually kinda playing that role, but he's not as good as those guys are. If you think this team would not be better with them. you're kidding yourself.

2011 Mavs would definitely beat this team, just because of Dirk. He would force them to adjust to him and their defensive sets would go out the window. Right now it's like stealing candy from a baby, they're in their comfort zone 40/48 minutes a game.
I completely disagree....I don't think those teams could beat this Spurs team...This is team personified.....They were crushing people in the regular season and they're making Miami look like they don't even belong on the same court as them.

[Dro]

Because casual fans do not industand the x's and o's of basketball. They understand dunks and whatever else ESPN spoon feeds them.
I think so. I like highlights like the next man but I love a good basketball discussion even more and enjoy watching an actual team play. I love watching the Spurs play, I don't think they're boring at all...And they're showing the Pacers exactly how to beat Miami...Keep the ball moving, be unselfish....

[DMAVS41]

I completely disagree....I don't think those teams could beat this Spurs team...This is team personified.....They were crushing people in the regular season and they're making Miami look like they don't even belong on the same court as them.

And they were doing the same shit in 2012 (winning 20 in a row iirc) before the Thunder raped them in 4 straight games because of WB, Harden, Durant...

Granted, this Spurs team is easily better than the 12 and 13 versions, but the Heat now only have 1 superstar...and he isn't doing anything to really make life difficult on the Spurs these last 2 games.

Miami has been clearly over-rated this year...sometimes it's hard to tell. They played in a joke conference so it's impossible to get a real idea how good they are in meaningless regular season games and joke competition in the playoffs against teams likely to not make the playoffs in the West (even the Pacers)

Why do people still refer to Bosh and Wade as superstars though? I mean...they are certainly good player, but this Heat team the last 2 years has been a single superstar team. Plain and simple...and single superstar teams without all nba help...rarely win.

Credit to the Spurs though...they are way better than they were last year at this time. Heat are actually about as good, despite what morons at ESPN say...this year the Spurs aren't injured/choking...that is the difference.

[Dro]

And they were doing the same shit in 2012 (winning 20 in a row iirc) before the Thunder raped them in 4 straight games because of WB, Harden, Durant...

Granted, this Spurs team is easily better than the 12 and 13 versions, but the Heat now only have 1 superstar...and he isn't doing anything to really make life difficult on the Spurs these last 2 games.

Miami has been clearly over-rated this year...sometimes it's hard to tell. They played in a joke conference so it's impossible to get a real idea how good they are in meaningless regular season games and joke competition in the playoffs against teams likely to not make the playoffs in the West (even the Pacers)

Why do people still refer to Bosh and Wade as superstars though? I mean...they are certainly good player, but this Heat team the last 2 years has been a single superstar team. Plain and simple...and single superstar teams without all nba help...rarely win.

Credit to the Spurs though...they are way better than they were last year at this time. Heat are actually about as good, despite what morons at ESPN say...this year the Spurs aren't injured/choking...that is the difference.
I definitely agree with you here...Those 2 are not superstars.......But I have no idea why people think the Pacers wouldn't make the playoffs in the West.....

The Pacers performed just fine against the West and they play excellent defense......They would also score easier in the west and they may play more uptempo like they should with Lance and PG. The only reason we play so slow is because we try to keep Roy involved........But if we didn't have Roy(we might trade him), I don't feel the Pacers would have any trouble competing in the west.......Just looking at team records between the conferences isnt a totally accurate way of looking at it, imo...

[Oly BC]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

2008 and 2012 Olympic games gold was won by the US solely because of 3s. They shot a bunch of them and with great percentages, probably quite higher than the players would normally get.

"Decide to takeover" is pure nonsense. Like so far they've decided to abstain.

[Derka]

I don't necessarily think there are more 'stans. I just think they're 1.) louder than everyone else and 2.) have a lot more time and determination to troll mercilessly in support of them than the rest of us do.

[BoutPractice]

This whole teamwork VS stars things is just as silly as the star worship it's trying to correct...

The best teams feature great individual players AND have them play team ball. That's what the 80s Celtics were all about...

[DMAVS41]

I definitely agree with you here...Those 2 are not superstars.......But I have no idea why people think the Pacers wouldn't make the playoffs in the West.....

The Pacers performed just fine against the West and they play excellent defense......They would also score easier in the west and they may play more uptempo like they should with Lance and PG. The only reason we play so slow is because we try to keep Roy involved........But if we didn't have Roy(we might trade him), I don't feel the Pacers would have any trouble competing in the west.......Just looking at team records between the conferences isnt a totally accurate way of looking at it, imo...

The Pacers were a slightly worse Grizzlies team during the regular season in my opinion. I think having to play tougher competition night in night out would have cost them a handful of wins...the important thing here is the "night in night out" part....the difference is actually quite large.

I didn't say they wouldn't make it...I said they might not. They would have been in a dog fight with the Mavs and Suns...just like the Grizzlies were.

Regardless, they would have for sure lost in the first round to any West team in the playoffs...

So the point is that it's impossible to get a read on how good the Heat were/are while playing in the East and in the playoffs because the East has no quality teams.

[Haymaker]

Being a Spurs fan is like being a Prog Rock fan. You think it's the best shit on the earth and everybody else seems to dig the mainstream stuff instead. I don't want any more Spurs fans, they're MY team and nobody else's.

[cltcfn2924]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

See Thunder 2012, almost every Lakers series, etc etc.

The ideal is this kind of team, with a unplayable offensive option at the top - like a Kober or a Dirk or a Melo -, bought into the read and react system. Tony Parker is actually kinda playing that role, but he's not as good as those guys are. If you think this team would not be better with them. you're kidding yourself.

2011 Mavs would definitely beat this team, just because of Dirk. He would force them to adjust to him and their defensive sets would go out the window. Right now it's like stealing candy from a baby, they're in their comfort zone 40/48 minutes a game.


Then let the kidding begin. There is only 1 Pop on the planet, he has everybody on the same page and has destroyed Miamis' trap defense. Miami is not built to score 100 and this is killing them.

[hawksdogsbraves]

I'm a Coach Bud STAN and that's basically the same thing :cheers:

[boozehound]

because smart bball fans tend not to fixate on an individual player as an idol.

[Levity]

I think its widely appreciated by those who see basketball as a team sport/understand the subtleties of the game. however, if/when the spurs win this season, i think the shift in appreciation for their type of game, will increase nation-wide.

[Dro]

I think its widely appreciated by those who see basketball as a team sport/understand the subtleties of the game. however, if/when the spurs win this season, i think the shift in appreciation for their type of game, will increase nation-wide.
I agree with you......

[Dro]

The Pacers were a slightly worse Grizzlies team during the regular season in my opinion. I think having to play tougher competition night in night out would have cost them a handful of wins...the important thing here is the "night in night out" part....the difference is actually quite large.

I didn't say they wouldn't make it...I said they might not. They would have been in a dog fight with the Mavs and Suns...just like the Grizzlies were.

Regardless, they would have for sure lost in the first round to any West team in the playoffs...

So the point is that it's impossible to get a read on how good the Heat were/are while playing in the East and in the playoffs because the East has no quality teams.
I agree with you but I don't agree with the bolded......I think the Pacers team that started 33-7 is as good as any team in the west not named San Antonio and possibly OKC....The question is who is the real Pacer team? Probably the one who lost to Miami in which case, I'd put them anywhere from 3-5 in the West....

[step_back]

People like comparing individual players and like the idea of how they would fit into their team. ISH is full of people who appreciate a particular player over an organization. You barely ever see someone giving kudos to another team but you will see it with a rival player.

Spurs play great Basketball. I think they're one of the most under rated teams in sports. Their consistency is matched by none in the league. They just don't have any "stylish" super star players.

[fpliii]

Why is it not appreciated more? There's tons of Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Melo, etc..stans...They appreciate the individual....Where's the Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, and Leonard stans? Why are there like 2 Spurs fans on this forum? Why do we buy into the hype of individual stars? Why don't more teams build like the Spurs with a team concept? I felt like Indiana tried to do that, but we don't have the coaching and the high IQ/great passers that the Spurs have.
1) The Spurs aren't as polarizing. Not enough ammunition to feed stans/haters.

2) Even though Timmy is perhaps the GOAT PF and one of the best players ever, there's a perception that he's not as important to this team as he actually is. He's still very much the anchor to their defense, and he's a big part of what they do offensively between his passing as a big man and the spacing provided by his low post back-to-the-basket game.

3) People by nature are negative. It's not just during the Finals, read a lot of these threads in general. MJ/Kobe/LeBron are the three most popular players on this site. When one of them does well, the other two groups are quiet. When things aren't going his way, the other two groups will tear him down. I mean look at some of the threads here trying to bury LeBron, and close the book on his legacy. I wasn't around in 2008 but I imagine it was the same, and it certainly was in 2011 with Kobe. Posters just want them to go away. :oldlol:

Let's be real here. Jordan, Kobe, LeBron are among the best to ever play this game. That much is unquestionable. As you said, the Spurs are a great, great team as well. They deserve to be the subject of conversation...tremendous shooting/passing team, and as a team they're preventing LeBron from playing aggressively, and are also doing a great job on the rest of the Heat. Good shit. :applause: There definitely needs to be less talk about Miami "losing" this series, and more about the Spurs "winning" it.

[Dro]

1) The Spurs aren't as polarizing. Not enough ammunition to feed stans/haters.

2) Even though Timmy is perhaps the GOAT PF and one of the best players ever, there's a perception that he's not as important to this team as he actually is. He's still very much the anchor to their defense, and he's a big part of what they do offensively between his passing as a big man and the spacing provided by his low post back-to-the-basket game.

3) People by nature are negative. It's not just during the Finals, read a lot of these threads in general. MJ/Kobe/LeBron are the three most popular players on this site. When one of them does well, the other two groups are quiet. When things aren't going his way, the other two groups will tear him down. I mean look at some of the threads here trying to bury LeBron, and close the book on his legacy. I wasn't around in 2008 but I imagine it was the same, and it certainly was in 2011 with Kobe. Posters just want them to go away. :oldlol:

Let's be real here. Jordan, Kobe, LeBron are among the best to ever play this game. That much is unquestionable. As you said, the Spurs are a great, great team as well. They deserve to be the subject of conversation...tremendous shooting/passing team, and as a team they're preventing LeBron from playing aggressively, and are also doing a great job on the rest of the Heat. Good shit. :applause: There definitely needs to be less talk about Miami "losing" this series, and more about the Spurs "winning" it.
Great point, and I think thats my main issue........There's no talk of how great the Spurs are, how great they're playing....Its all about Miami and how Lebron isn't doing anything, or Wade isn't doing anything........How about the fact that the Spurs are playing excellent collective defense? How about the fact that they have one the best coaches ever and currently in the league today? He demands professionalism out of his players and he's just as hard on Parker, Duncan and Ginobli as he is the role players...

And I think Parker, Ginobli and even Leonard are very exciting players...I don't understand why people don't think they have any players that are fun to watch...Manu is still fun to watch, so is Parker with his relentless penetration.....

[Dro]

superstars (not bran) is more eciting than ball passing. thays why im a lakers fan. they get you exciting super stars
To me, great passing and everyone being involved is much better than watching 1 player hoist up bad shot after bad shot, even if he's making them, which is what superstars tend to do.....Even Durant puts up bad shots, he's just so capable of making them that it gets overlooked...But when Westbrooke does it, everyone is on his case..

[AirFederer]

Why is it not appreciated more? There's tons of Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Melo, etc..stans...They appreciate the individual....Where's the Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, and Leonard stans? Why are there like 2 Spurs fans on this forum? Why do we buy into the hype of individual stars? Why don't more teams build like the Spurs with a team concept? I felt like Indiana tried to do that, but we don't have the coaching and the high IQ/great passers that the Spurs have.
You only have West with Spurs passing ability....and PG and others are too worried bout own stats...

[Myth]

Why is it not appreciated more? There's tons of Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Melo, etc..stans...They appreciate the individual....Where's the Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, and Leonard stans? Why are there like 2 Spurs fans on this forum? Why do we buy into the hype of individual stars? Why don't more teams build like the Spurs with a team concept? I felt like Indiana tried to do that, but we don't have the coaching and the high IQ/great passers that the Spurs have.

I love me some Duncan. I always said that Reggie was my all time favorite, but these last few years have really helped Duncan creep up there to where it is damn near 1a/1b.

1. Reggie
2. Duncan
3. Roy

[Dro]

I love me some Duncan. I always said that Reggie was my all time favorite, but these last few years have really helped Duncan creep up there to where it is damn near 1a/1b.

1. Reggie
2. Duncan
3. Roy
Roy Hibbert?:lol




j/k..assume you mean Brandon Roy...

[Graviton]

I always respected and appreciated Pop and Duncan, but rooting for OKC kinda means I can't support Spurs much. Then again Parker, Manu, Splitter and some others on that roster being the biggest flopping *******s in the league doesn't help their case. :oldlol:

I am starting to like Kawhi more though, he is like a silent lion. Goes out there and just takes care of business, no talk, just walking the walk. That defensive intensity and hustle reminds me of Westbrook. He is like the icy version of Russ though, plays hard but looking at his face you would think he is in practice. Shows no emotion.

[bdreason]

It's not promoted by the media. The average person is a sheep, and only support what they're told to support.

[Artillery]

Because 99% of the people that post on this site grew up in the ISO-ball era of basketball(1990s/2000s). Objectively, the style the current Spurs play is a hell of lot more exciting and aesthetically pleasing. Try watching a random basketball game from the 90s. Ugly, ugly bball. Spurs won four titles playing that style but I have no problems admitting the 2014 team is the most interesting to watch.

[All Net]

Those guys have stans as for the average person thats the more exciting basketball play. It stands out more.

[Artillery]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

A one-man or two-man team isn't going to beat the Spurs. Thunder had the two best offensive players in the playoffs and they still lost in six to SA with an injured Parker. Lebron had his takeover moment in the 3rd quarter last game Spurs still outscored the Heat during that run.


See Thunder 2012

A garbage team that only made the Finals due to awful officiating in games 5 and 6. The fact that the Heat embarrassed them in the Finals says a lot about the lack of quality basketball they played. They never deserved to be there.


almost every Lakers series, etc etc.

Clearly weren't watching the Spurs back then. They had a simple ISO-ball system in the 2000s. They were a slow-paced defensive team that mostly relied on their three stars for most of their offense. Pop only recently implemented the passing system they currently play in 2011.


The ideal is this kind of team, with a unplayable offensive option at the top - like a Kober or a Dirk or a Melo -, bought into the read and react system. Tony Parker is actually kinda playing that role, but he's not as good as those guys are. If you think this team would not be better with them. you're kidding yourself.

Dirk sure. He's an unselfish team-first player. But Kobe or Melo have never bought into any system anywhere they played. Look at the failure of the 2013 Lakers and the way Kobe refused to buy into D'Antoni ball. Bryant's probably been through more coaches than any other player in the league. Refuses to take paycuts. Has never played any type of team defense. Never passes the ball. Bryant and team basketball don't belong in the same sentence. He's a dinosaur that grew up worshiping Jordan-era ISO-ball. Someone like him will never buy into a system like the Spurs.

[EwingMan]

the system first approach, which the spurs players have adopted, is not conducive to persons living vicariously through 'alpha-ness', or great-individual-narratives provided by/manufactured for 'star' nba players. its a team of team-players; a team for dads and little league coaches, not kids and internet goons. its not a surprise they have a smaller, less vocal contingent on these message boards.


i think the pacers comparison is pretty superficial tbh. not only do they not have the personnel to implement the high-ball-movement offensive system (you neglected to mention the paucity of shooters) the spurs currently employ, they haven't been able to develop a strong team-first culture, as evidenced by this years enormous meltdown, and media fiascoes.

[Dro]

the system first approach, which the spurs players have adopted, is not conducive to persons living vicariously through 'alpha-ness', or great-individual-narratives provided by/manufactured for 'star' nba players. its a team of team-players; a team for dads and little league coaches, not kids and internet goons. its not a surprise they have a smaller, less vocal contingent on these message boards.


i think the pacers comparison is pretty superficial tbh. not only do they not have the personnel to implement the high-ball-movement offensive system (you neglected to mention the paucity of shooters) the spurs currently employ, they haven't been able to develop a strong team-first culture, as evidenced by this years enormous meltdown, and media fiascoes.
The Pacers comparison was only through the front office and how they built their team with draft picks like PG and Lance who weren't highly touted.......They got Lance in the 2nd round...drafted Roy. Getting a vet like West. Thats what I meant.......I know the Pacers aren't the Spurs. The Pacers do have a couple of shooters in Butler and Copeland but the coach doesn't utilize them.

[EwingMan]

totally, but its definitely easier when you can draft a top-10 talent, who is the acme of hard work/leadership, have early success, and build a system around that. maybe larry can browbeat those knuckleheads into submission in the off-season- and they can go from there.

[Dro]

totally, but its definitely easier when you can draft a top-10 talent, who is the acme of hard work/leadership, have early success, and build a system around that. maybe larry can browbeat those knuckleheads into submission in the off-season- and they can go from there.
He's gonna have to, lol...I hope he does though.....They haven't truly matured yet and I'd like them to cut down on all the celebrating.......I want them to play with the same brashness but without all the posturing after ever 3 pointer, etc....

[played0ut]

Having a superstar is not incongruous with this style.

Really and truly, this Spurs team should not beat this Miami team. I've seen my national team lose to the States outplaying them using the exact same methods. If Lebron and Wade decide to takeover these games and Miami lock in defensively, there is absolutely nothing these Spurs can do.

See Thunder 2012, almost every Lakers series, etc etc.

The ideal is this kind of team, with a unplayable offensive option at the top - like a Kober or a Dirk or a Melo -, bought into the read and react system. Tony Parker is actually kinda playing that role, but he's not as good as those guys are. If you think this team would not be better with them. you're kidding yourself.

2011 Mavs would definitely beat this team, just because of Dirk. He would force them to adjust to him and their defensive sets would go out the window. Right now it's like stealing candy from a baby, they're in their comfort zone 40/48 minutes a game.

See 80's Celtics and '92 Dream Team :applause:

[insidehoops]

Interesting thread bump

[Kawhi Not?]

Why is it not appreciated more? There's tons of Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Melo, etc..stans...They appreciate the individual....Where's the Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, and Leonard stans? Why are there like 2 Spurs fans on this forum? Why do we buy into the hype of individual stars? Why don't more teams build like the Spurs with a team concept? I felt like Indiana tried to do that, but we don't have the coaching and the high IQ/great passers that the Spurs have.

People prefer individual superstars and 1 on 1 play because people in general are selfish pigs

[Dro]

People prefer individual superstars and 1 on 1 play because
:ohwell:

[LakersFan626]

I always respected and appreciated Pop and Duncan, but rooting for OKC kinda means I can't support Spurs much. Then again Parker, Manu, Splitter and some others on that roster being the biggest flopping *******s in the league doesn't help their case. :oldlol:

I am starting to like Kawhi more though, he is like a silent lion. Goes out there and just takes care of business, no talk, just walking the walk. That defensive intensity and hustle reminds me of Westbrook. He is like the icy version of Russ though, plays hard but looking at his face you would think he is in practice. Shows no emotion.

It's okay to for one series against Miami (I definitely preferred Dallas winning over Miami in 2011 despite Dallas sweeping the Lakers... it's also better to lose to the champs than anyone else)... remember Miami did beat OKC in 2012 and their fans are some of the most arrogant I've ever seen (the bandwagoners, not the real ones). Also, the Spurs are just a team that are hard to root against when they're not playing your own team.

To answer the OP, it's because the media pushes the superstars like Kobe, MJ, Shaq, LeBron, and Durant more. Example being that some fans still think all Blake does is dunk when he's improved every aspect of his game, as the media and NBA push his dunks more than anything else BY FAR.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I completely disagree....I don't think those teams could beat this Spurs team...This is team personified.....They were crushing people in the regular season and they're making Miami look like they don't even belong on the same court as them.

This years Mavs took SA to 7 games...

I'm not gonna claim the '11 Mavs would wreck them, just saying though.

[ProfessorMurder]

Because people are too dumb to realize how perfect they play.

If I was going to show someone a game to get them into the sport, it would be the Spurs.

[VIntageNOvel]

And they were doing the same shit in 2012 (winning 20 in a row iirc) before the Thunder raped them in 4 straight games because of WB, Harden, Durant...

Granted, this Spurs team is easily better than the 12 and 13 versions, but the Heat now only have 1 superstar...and he isn't doing anything to really make life difficult on the Spurs these last 2 games.

Miami has been clearly over-rated this year...sometimes it's hard to tell. They played in a joke conference so it's impossible to get a real idea how good they are in meaningless regular season games and joke competition in the playoffs against teams likely to not make the playoffs in the West (even the Pacers)

Why do people still refer to Bosh and Wade as superstars though? I mean...they are certainly good player, but this Heat team the last 2 years has been a single superstar team. Plain and simple...and single superstar teams without all nba help...rarely win.

Credit to the Spurs though...they are way better than they were last year at this time. Heat are actually about as good, despite what morons at ESPN say...this year the Spurs aren't injured/choking...that is the difference.

if harden is superstar, than wade sure is
it just that SG position has been really weak
he's still top 3 SG though

[The-Legend-24]

Spurs are boring.

OKC offense >

[brantonli]

Spurs are boring.

OKC offense >

Since when is winning boring?

[kureyşi-gospurs]

Should be

[Dro]

Spurs are boring.

OKC offense >
OKC's offense is boring........Iso Durant, Iso Westbrook...........repeat over and over......