View Full Version : lebron deserves ZERO blame in this finals
mehyaM24
06-13-2014, 09:29 PM
what more do you want from him? averaging 27 on 50%+ shooting.....had 19 in the 3rd quarter last night....and the heat were still down by double digits.
facts:
-wade is ****ing awful
-bosh is floating around the 3PT shooting 3s
-miamis defense is a joke
-pop > spo
please quit saying miami is stacked. its lebron...and a bunch of role players.
bring melo in and watch lebron rattle off more rings than jordan
Lebronxrings
06-13-2014, 09:30 PM
don't you know? Kobe and jordan stans need him to average 50 points on 75% shooting. If he doesn't, its an epic choke. Its not like kobe ever shot low %s in pivotal game moments.
played0ut
06-13-2014, 09:31 PM
Lebron didn't play bad but should've pushed his team to play harder. There was no urgency in their play-- it's like they're comfortable with having 2-peated. He's their leader he needs to set that example.
Heat has the talent but the Spurs were obviously playing harder.
9erempiree
06-13-2014, 09:33 PM
what more do you want from him? averaging 27 on 50%+ shooting.....had 19 in the 3rd quarter last night....and the heat were still down by double digits.
facts:
-wade is ****ing awful
-bosh is floating around the 3PT shooting 3s
-miamis defense is a joke
-pop > spo
please quit saying miami is stacked. its lebron...and a bunch of role players.
bring melo in and watch lebron rattle off more rings than jordan
19 points in the 3rd quarter in garbage time. He scored by setting screens and going to the bucket. Those are Spo's plays.
He didn't stop the bleeding earlier in the game. Why not 19 points to close out the 1st half?
Lebron's known to pad his stats so we can steer the blame elsewhere. As long as he gets his stats, nobody would blame him because they would bring up the stats like you did. The fact of the matter is, a basketball fan will know better.
Jacks3
06-13-2014, 09:33 PM
LeBron's Finals are like Durant's 2012 Finals. Yeah, his efficiency is great, but the rest of the game isn't there. His defense has been mediocre, his play-making isn't the same, and he's been a turnover machine. Also he's been outplayed by a role-player in the two biggest games of the series. Only Bron stans think this is a "great" series for him.
coin24
06-13-2014, 09:33 PM
Maybe he should try playing in the first half:lol
played0ut
06-13-2014, 09:34 PM
don't you know? Kobe and jordan stans need him to average 50 points on 75% shooting. If he doesn't, its an epic choke. Its not like kobe ever shot low %s in pivotal game moments.
lol you're one of those posters who make excuses for things. It's ok to like Lebron and think he's better than Jordan/Kobe, but to blame the loss on the refs? And call it a business decision?
Lol people should be real with themselves...
Inferno
06-13-2014, 09:34 PM
Stats don't tell the whole story: Game 4, LBJ took like 5 shots 1st half. When he went off in the 3rd quarter game was already out of reach.
Quizno
06-13-2014, 09:37 PM
nahh, he definitely deserves some blame. he's getting lit up on defense (seriously, he's gotten blown by so many times this series) and he's been extremely passive when his team needs him to be aggressive. he had 5 points on 2/5 shooting while his team was getting killed in the first half of game 4. there's no excuses for that. you can't stand by and not try to put the ball in the hoop while the spurs start to blow you out
the 3rd quarter was great, no doubt, but he didn't do a thing while his team found themselves down by 20+. you really aren't coming back from a 20 point deficit against these spurs
Warfan
06-13-2014, 09:37 PM
what more do you want from him? averaging 27 on 50%+ shooting.....had 19 in the 3rd quarter last night....and the heat were still down by double digits.
facts:
-wade is ****ing awful
-bosh is floating around the 3PT shooting 3s
-miamis defense is a joke
-pop > spo
please quit saying miami is stacked. its lebron...and a bunch of role players.
bring melo in and watch lebron rattle off more rings than jordan
He deserves some blame but not a ton. He seems to be able to score pretty easily but he's not being aggressive enough. The defense is the main issue for Miami anyway.
He needs to take A LOT of shots next game to have any chance. Even in the first half yesterday guys were getting wide open looks and they were bricking them, but he still only shot the ball like 6 times. So blame has to be put on him for that too.
He can't be content with letting his teammates shoot the ball a lot when at times this series he has scored at will. He needs to play GREAT for Miami to win, and we shouldn't expect anything less than for him to play at that level.
HoopsFanNumero1
06-13-2014, 09:37 PM
The're no point in blaming an individual player when the team is getting blown out. Their defense has been complete shit all four game so far, and that's why they're getting blown out.
The-Legend-24
06-13-2014, 09:37 PM
His stats are the very definition of empty. No real impact on the game.
Nikka scored most of his points in garbage time. :oldlol:
LeHoudini at it again. :oldlol:
This is what happens when you don't watch games and just come to conclusions from looking at box scores.
Beastmode88
06-13-2014, 09:40 PM
Long time bran hater but he tried to will his way back into the game in the 3rd quarter but it just wasn't enough. Hasn't Miami watched enough Spurs vs OKC game tape? Spurs developed their game to counter hero-ball. In this case lebron has to play 1 vs 12 and it's probably bad if not worse than his days with the Cavs. Spurs in 5 at this point, just dont see them winning it in SA.
coin24
06-13-2014, 09:41 PM
Those empty stats, Not sure if KLove or LeBaldhog out there:lol :lol
NumberSix
06-13-2014, 09:43 PM
This finals isn't about blame. SAS deserves the CREDIT.
Fudge
06-13-2014, 09:44 PM
This finals isn't about blame. SAS deserves the CREDIT.
My nigha.
mehyaM24
06-13-2014, 09:46 PM
19 points in the 3rd quarter in garbage time. He scored by setting screens and going to the bucket. Those are Spo's plays.
He didn't stop the bleeding earlier in the game. Why not 19 points to close out the 1st half?
Lebron's known to pad his stats so we can steer the blame elsewhere. As long as he gets his stats, nobody would blame him because they would bring up the stats like you did. The fact of the matter is, a basketball fan will know better.
how do you statpad in the 3rd quarter of a finals game? :facepalm
Graviton
06-13-2014, 09:50 PM
He is averaging more turnovers than assists, his defense has been horrible, his rebounding below his standards, he doesn't have a single block after 4 games. Kawhi Leonard has been outperforming him last 2 games. :facepalm
Though it's funny you can only bring up his FG%, feels like Durant's 2012 Finals(31 PPG ON 55% MANG HE IS DOING ALL HE CAN). When anyone who watched Durant saw minimal impact. Same for Lebron.
Westbrook showed more fight vs Spurs than anyone in these playoffs, he dominated Parker so badly Pop benched him for Corey Joseph. Sad how Lebron isn't able to dominate Kawhi and at least force Pop to make adjustments. This tells you you can't beat these Spurs "in the flow of the game" style, you need to be aggressive on defense and play hard for 40+ minutes, get those old farts tired and don't let them get comfortable. That's what Westbrook did and almost pushed it to Game 7 without Ibaka for 2 games. That is a true warrior, but Lebron/Wade seem content playing garbage lazy defense and getting blown out.
RedBlackAttack
06-13-2014, 09:53 PM
:oldlol: at the rush to assign blame in every other direction.
The Spurs took control of this series in the first half of Game 4 by taking yet another 20+ point lead in the second quarter. Up to that point, James had virtually no impact on the game.
In fact, his 19 points in the third quarter had minimal impact on the game... the lead actually grew during that period because Miami's defense, which includes James, couldn't get a big stop if their life depended on it.
The Miami Heat -- as a team -- are being completely outclassed in these Finals. As far as I can tell, James is a part of the team, and thereby not blameless.
But, please continue trying to explain this thing away. It's amusing. I prefer to praise SAS instead of blaming any one particular individual, but acting as if James is immune to any criticism is funny.
He has had very little impact in the two most important games of the series.
longtime lurker
06-13-2014, 09:54 PM
Maybe he should try playing in the first half:lol
Lol was just about to post this. 7 points in the first half when your team is getting fvcked up the ass. The blame falls on a lot of the Heat players but when you claim to be the best you're held to a higher standard.
Grey Dawn
06-13-2014, 09:56 PM
don't you know? Kobe and jordan stans need him to average 50 points on 75% shooting. If he doesn't, its an epic choke. Its not like kobe ever shot low %s in pivotal game moments.
A point in the 4th quarter would be nice. :D
pegasus
06-13-2014, 09:58 PM
A point in the 4th quarter would be nice. :D
:lol :lol
To be fair that's asking a lot though.
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