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atljonesbro
06-15-2014, 02:58 PM
I think so. Would show a lot of character for LeBron to pull this one off.

TheMarkMadsen
06-15-2014, 03:00 PM
Jordan never lost 3 games in a finals

So no

J Shuttlesworth
06-15-2014, 03:01 PM
It's more impressive to sweep a finals (not sure if jordan ever did this) but a 3-1 comeback would be epic, no doubt... especially against a team this good

miles berg
06-15-2014, 03:01 PM
Not even close. Jordan never even had to bother with a Game 7.

LeBron isn't close to Jordan, mentally Jordan makes LeBron look like a midget.

Beastmode88
06-15-2014, 03:02 PM
It's more impressive to sweep a finals (not sure if jordan ever did this) but a 3-1 comeback would be epic, no doubt... especially against a team this good

just like how bran was swept in the finals?

J Shuttlesworth
06-15-2014, 03:03 PM
just like how bran was swept in the finals?
Making the finals with that cavs team was more impressive than anything Jordan had done by that age

STATUTORY
06-15-2014, 03:04 PM
Making the finals with that cavs team was more impressive than anything Jordan had done by that age
:facepalm :facepalm such a simple minded way of looking at things

the strength of conferences is so unbalanced, making the finals from the east is like making the playoffs in the west. the only real playoff team that cavs played that year swept them. that's real

KG215
06-15-2014, 03:06 PM
Sure, if we want ot ignore the fact that Jordan never lost 3 games in a Finals and, for whatever reasons, create some narrative that coming back from down 3-1 to win a series is more impressive than playing in the Finals and never having to go to a game 7.

Kidbasketball20
06-15-2014, 03:06 PM
As a LeBron hater, I would quit watching the NBA if the Heat somehow managed to win this series because it would be sensational.

KG215
06-15-2014, 03:07 PM
Making the finals with that cavs team was more impressive than anything Jordan had done by that age
Yeah, I mean it's not like Jordan played in an Eastern Conference with some legendary teams at that age.

stalkerforlife
06-15-2014, 03:07 PM
People still grasping at straws for their boy.

NumberSix
06-15-2014, 03:10 PM
Jordan never lost 3 games in a finals

So no
Jordan never played 4 finals in a row either.

Milbuck
06-15-2014, 03:11 PM
MJ has had finals putting up:

31/7/11/3/1 on 61% TS

36/5/7/2 on 62% TS

41/9/6/2/1 on 57% TS

So no.

NumberSix
06-15-2014, 03:13 PM
Sure, if we want ot ignore the fact that Jordan never lost 3 games in a Finals and, for whatever reasons, create some narrative that coming back from down 3-1 to win a series is more impressive than playing in the Finals and never having to go to a game 7.
Unlike Jordan, LeBron never played on a team where he could go down by 20+ points in the finals and sit on the bench while his team goes from being down 20+ to gaining the lead.

Marchesk
06-15-2014, 03:13 PM
Jordan never played 4 finals in a row either.

Yeah, he retired twice instead.

NumberSix
06-15-2014, 03:14 PM
Yeah, he retired twice instead.
1990 and 1995 existed, right?

J Shuttlesworth
06-15-2014, 03:18 PM
Yeah, I mean it's not like Jordan played in an Eastern Conference with some legendary teams at that age.
The dude was putting up 31/7/7 at 21 years old. He put up better numbers at 22 than 22 year old Jordan... 23 year old Jordan was pretty unreal though

sportjames23
06-15-2014, 03:19 PM
I think so. Would show a lot of character for LeBron to pull this one off.


Of course you'd think so. You're an idiot.

MJ never put himself in position to be embarrassed in the Finals.

Oh, 6-0 >>>>>> 2-3 (or 3-2 IF Lebron's Heat manage to somehow pull this out).

Derka
06-15-2014, 03:20 PM
Its not a matter of winning three games in a row that made Jordan better.

Its the ability and the way to enforce your will on the other team that makes the win impressive.

sportjames23
06-15-2014, 03:20 PM
Making the finals with that cavs team was more impressive than anything Jordan had done by that age

In that weak ass Eastern Conference? Not even, bruh.

Beastmode88
06-15-2014, 03:21 PM
Of course you'd think so. You're an idiot.

MJ never put himself in position to be embarrassed in the Finals.

Oh, 6-0 >>>>>> 2-3 (or 3-2 IF Lebron's Heat manage to somehow pull this out).

brb colluding with stockton and malone :confusedshrug:

NumberSix
06-15-2014, 03:24 PM
Of course you'd think so. You're an idiot.

MJ never put himself in position to be embarrassed in the Finals.

Oh, 6-0 >>>>>> 2-3 (or 3-2 IF Lebron's Heat manage to somehow pull this out).
Jordan only played 6 seasons?:confusedshrug:

sportjames23
06-15-2014, 03:25 PM
Jordan only played 6 seasons?:confusedshrug:

Lebron bout to lose this 3rd Finals tonight?

Beastmode88
06-15-2014, 03:26 PM
In that weak ass Eastern Conference? Not even, bruh.

but the mavs got the spurs to game 7, miami shouldn't of cake walking over them. :(

Milbuck
06-15-2014, 03:27 PM
Jordan only played 6 seasons?:confusedshrug:
What agenda are you trying to push, exactly? Just come out and say it.

sportjames23
06-15-2014, 03:42 PM
What agenda are you trying to push, exactly? Just come out and say it.


He's trying that poor logic that Lebron stans use that goes: "MJ played 13 seasons with the Bulls, but only has 6 titles, so he has a losing record."

TheMarkMadsen
06-15-2014, 03:42 PM
The dude was putting up 31/7/7 at 21 years old. He put up better numbers at 22 than 22 year old Jordan... 23 year old Jordan was pretty unreal though


Bran out up 25ppg on 42% shooting in the 07 playoffs.


If you don't think 22 year old Jordan could do that then you're delusional

ThePhantomCreep
06-15-2014, 03:47 PM
Jordan only played 6 seasons?:confusedshrug:

Jordan through 11 seasons = 4 titles

LeBron = 2 (most likely)

Purch
06-15-2014, 03:49 PM
That would seem like really weird logic, because it seems like you're rewarding Lebron for allowing his team to fall into a 3-1 hole, and faulting Jordan for not allowing his team to be In that position in the finals.

SamuraiSWISH
06-15-2014, 03:50 PM
That would be a team accomplishment. It all depends on how well LeBron would play. But thus far LeBron has not done anything as impressive as Jordan's original three peat performances, and numbers.

hateraid
06-15-2014, 03:52 PM
ISH, where team accomplishments are credited to a single player

sdot_thadon
06-15-2014, 04:09 PM
Nah, not more impressive I don't think. Definitely amazing in its own right however. I don't believe Lebron will surpass Mj by mimicking his legacy and accomplishments, if it happens it'll be due to him doing things Mj never did. Mj didn't become Mj by mirroring legacies of those before him, he did his own thing.

SamuraiSWISH
06-15-2014, 04:12 PM
Nah, not more impressive I don't think. Definitely amazing in its own right however. I don't believe Lebron will surpass Mj by mimicking his legacy and accomplishments, if it happens it'll be due to him doing things Mj never did. Mj didn't become Mj by mirroring legacies of those before him, he did his own thing.
Good Post.

ILLsmak
06-15-2014, 05:18 PM
As a LeBron hater, I would quit watching the NBA if the Heat somehow managed to win this series because it would be sensational.

Nobody wants to hear this, but the Finals have been pretty solid ref-wise. There have been questionable calls but it hasn't been like every game is fixed or that they keep sticking people on the bench with 2 fouls. If the reffing continued as it was and the Heat won, then it'd GG. I doubt I'd quit watching if the Heat were "fixed" to a win, but it would be a travesty.

-Smak

DonDadda59
06-15-2014, 05:23 PM
Jordan never did something as impressive as letting his team get blown out twice in a row at home by senior citizens that's for sure :applause:

Hands of Iron
06-15-2014, 05:24 PM
Nah, not more impressive I don't think. Definitely amazing in its own right however. I don't believe Lebron will surpass Mj by mimicking his legacy and accomplishments, if it happens it'll be due to him doing things Mj never did. Mj didn't become Mj by mirroring legacies of those before him, he did his own thing.

He shifted the entire paradigm and conquered the game in the most alpha and individualistic way possible, and I don't consider that either positive or negative. To a man, it's probably more admirable than anything though honestly. He won six chips not only as the best player on his team, but the best player in the NBA period. Some people rate a guy like KAJ over him - for numerous reasons, some legit - and point to his equal amount of titles as part of it. Was the former true for even half of them? Jordan did it like nobody else in history and ruined the game for so many to follow. Nobody, and I mean nobody is going to pull off two 3-peats (only done once one other time by someone other than Jordan on absolutely freakishly dominant play) with 6 Finals MVP's. Whereas prior to him it was much more about legendary teams with great leaders taking them all the way, the Bulls dynasty was far more geared on Jordan's individual brilliance and he absolutely had to be the man, front and center for every single one of them. Not that Scottie had the offensive ability to ever challenge that. It's been 16 years and he's still haunting the NBA.

poido123
06-15-2014, 05:25 PM
Jordan never played 4 finals in a row either.


Jordan could only wish he could armchair ride conferences year in year out like Lebron has done. Lebron hasn't had to extend himself beyond the conference finals and finals each year. :oldlol:


4 finals in a row the way Lebron has is hardly noteworthy. Great for statistics and history buffs, but in context not so impressive...

poido123
06-15-2014, 05:26 PM
Jordan never did something as impressive as letting his team get blown out twice in a row at home by senior citizens that's for sure :applause:


:lol


Bu bu bu ball movement is GOAT level!!! Spurs are the greatest team eva!!

SpaceJammeR
06-15-2014, 06:48 PM
i'm a huge jordan fan, but sorry coming back down 3 in a finals series is historic and if lebron plays good in all those games, that will be big on his career. no one did it before. it's the finals and all the pressure is on every single game. it's different from jordan having to go 6 games only in the finals. would jordan be able to come back down 3-1 in the finals? no one knows and no one has done it yet.

nathanjizzle
06-15-2014, 06:52 PM
but why would you assume lebron was the cause? wade and bosh both have the ability to carry the team. thats what happens when you collude with superstars.

SouBeachTalents
06-15-2014, 07:44 PM
ISH, where team accomplishments are credited to a single player

This. Jordan's teammates were never as bad or ineffective as LeBron's have been in this years Finals or in '07.

Sarcastic
06-15-2014, 07:51 PM
Jordan never played 4 finals in a row either.

3 peat X 2 >>>> 2 for 4 in consecutive finals.



Proof: Magic and Bird both went to 4 consecutive finals, and no one considers that a better accomplishment than a 3 peat.

diamenz
06-15-2014, 08:10 PM
This. Jordan's teammates were never as bad or ineffective as LeBron's have been in this years Finals or in '07.

but i thot bran makes his teammates better?

jzek
06-15-2014, 08:10 PM
No

Only thing it will accomplish is move LeBron ahead of Kobe in the all time list.

Micku
06-15-2014, 08:20 PM
Like other people said, the Bulls during the Jordan era never lost 3 games in the Finals. So, he and the Bulls never let it get this bad because they were so good.

But a comeback from 1-3 would be very impressive. It may become a stamp on the Heat and LBJ legacy.

But what does that say about the Spurs tho?

riseagainst
06-15-2014, 08:28 PM
1-3 comeback is something historic.

JellyBean
06-15-2014, 08:35 PM
Heck yeah. Especially if LeBron is leading the charge. If James is able to have great numbers, like 30/10/6, and the Heat are able to come back from a 1-3 hole, that would be greater than anything Jordan has ever done in the NBA Finals, and that is saying a lot.

TheMan
06-15-2014, 09:01 PM
Heck yeah. Especially if LeBron is leading the charge. If James is able to have great numbers, like 30/10/6, and the Heat are able to come back from a 1-3 hole, that would be greater than anything Jordan has ever done in the NBA Finals, and that is saying a lot.
Highly debatable, just ain't happening though.