LeBron just choked.

[SexSymbol]

Let's face it guys, Lebron completely gave up in this series.
G1 He was passive before getting a little aggressive in the third, but then cramps happened, let's give this one to him
G2 he was great, though Bosh and wade closed out the deal
G3 he completely disappeared and player like shit in the second half
G4 he completely disappeared after 3Q and didn't go down swinging like a killer would
G5 he completely disappeared after 3Q and took himself out with 7 minutes left and there still was a chance because the lead was cut down to something like 14-17
Anytime Spurs were making a big run, he did not even try to attempt any shots.
This is a definition of a choke, 2011 like, just a little less obvious because of the FG%

[RoundMoundOfReb]

pathetic. He was the only Heat player who played even average. :oldlol:

[DaSeba5]

I hope this is sarcasm.

[Rodmantheman]

:biggums:

[SexSymbol]

I hope this is sarcasm.
Of course it isn't. He's the leader of the team, the team goes as far as he goes, and he was a complete no-show on defense, anybody who got to play him 1x1 burned him terribly, his man, who's a role-player, got the FMVP and he did not try at all in the last three games.
How is this not a choke again?

[Jameerthefear]

i really hope op is trolling.

[AintNoSunshine]

:oldlol: OK.

[SouBeachTalents]

Let's face it guys, Lebron completely gave up in this series.
G1 He was passive before getting a little aggressive in the third, but then cramps happened, let's give this one to him
G2 he was great, though Bosh and wade closed out the deal
G3 he completely disappeared and player like shit in the second half
G4 he completely disappeared after 3Q and didn't go down swinging like a killer would
G5 he completely disappeared after 3Q and took himself out with 7 minutes left and there still was a chance because the lead was cut down to something like 14-17
Anytime Spurs were making a big run, he did not even try to attempt any shots.
This is a definition of a choke, 2011 like, just a little less obvious because of the FG%

Dat supporting cast though

[DaSeba5]

Of course it isn't. He's the leader of the team, the team goes as far as he goes, and he was a complete no-show on defense, anybody who got to play him 1x1 burned him terribly, his man, who's a role-player, got the FMVP and he did not try at all in the last three games.
How is this not a choke again?

Post the stats of the other Heat players. It's a team sport if you didn't know.

[Heavincent]

He didn't choke, but people will point at his stats like it matters or something. The Heat got utterly destroyed. Bran stat padding during blowouts is irrelevant.

[SexSymbol]

Dat supporting cast though
I understand that the supporting cast has been dissapointing
But then again when Wade is getting 10-13 touches, bosh getting like 8 at best, and the team is terrible on defense. Somebody has to take the blame, and those two things are what LeBron could have improved if he tried. He didn't, end of story, that is a choke.

[SouBeachTalents]

I understand that the supporting cast has been dissapointing
But then again when Wade is getting 10-13 touches, bosh getting like 8 at best, and the team is terrible on defense. Somebody has to take the blame, and those two things are what LeBron could have improved if he tried. He didn't, end of story, that is a choke.

Disappointing doesn't even cover it. Name a single Heat player besides LeBron that had even a "C" performance the past two games

[DaSeba5]

He didn't choke, but people will point at his stats like it matters or something. The Heat got utterly destroyed. Bran stat padding during blowouts is irrelevant.

This post doesn't make any sense. If trying to comeback is stat padding, then he should have quit then, right? I'm sure you would have had no problem with that.

[SexSymbol]

Disappointing doesn't even cover it. Name a single Heat player besides LeBron that had even a "C" performance the past two games
Bosh, Andersen

[deja vu]

Don't think he choked, but he was incredibly passive out there. Kobe would have shot something like 10-of-40 trying to will his team to victory.

[DaSeba5]

I'm still waiting for the stats, OP

[SexSymbol]

I'm still waiting for the stats, OP
Watch the games.
There is no excuse to be passive in the finals as a team leader both on offense and defense.
It was a terrible sighting, surely doesn't pass the eye test

[GimmeThat]

well. he didn't even get the opportunities to finish off the game and prove that he can't.

unless you want to say he wasn't breathing the whole series.


valid point.

(choking is that feeling when you blown a wide open lay up, and you gotta go back and deal with your teammates be like... yup.... that happened.)

[SouBeachTalents]

Bosh, Andersen

Bosh with his game changing 12, 4 and 13, 7 and shooting under 50% the past two games? Andersen wasn't much of a factor either. And keep in mind this was the MOST help he got, yet you still blame LeBron

[gts]

odd series for Lebron seemed he had one good quarter per game one stinker and or a couple hohums per game.. not consistent... but that's the finals. good teams find ways to take good players out of their comfort zone, good players find ways to have an impact in other ways, I just felt like Lebron never truly put his stamp on the series...

have to go back and look at all the flow charts to say for sure but I never thought Lebron looked comfortable except for spots here and there

[Ne 1]

His Finals this year was a lot like Durant's 2012 Finals. Yeah, his efficiency was great and his stats look pretty good on paper, but the rest of the game just wasn't there. His defense was mediocre, his play-making wasn't the same, and he was a turnover machine. Also, LeBron was clearly outplayed by Leonard in the two biggest games of the series on his home court. Although unlike LeBron, for Durant's performance, he has the explanation of not being in his prime yet and inexperience/still learning the playoff ropes.

[plowking]

His Finals this year was a lot like Durant's 2012 Finals. Yeah, his efficiency was great and his stats look pretty good on paper, but the rest of the game just wasn't there. His defense was mediocre, his play-making wasn't the same, and he was a turnover machine. Also, LeBron was clearly outplayed by Leonard in the two biggest games of the series on his home court. Although unlike LeBron, for Durant's performance, he has the explanation of not being in his prime yet and inexperience/still learning the playoff ropes.

He shut Parker out of the game today, and had him scared to drive in the paint.

So how was his defense, non impactful?

Lebron played better than he did last year, the difference was, his team sucked.

[SouBeachTalents]

He shut Parker out of the game today, and had him scared to drive in the paint.

So how was his defense, non impactful?

Lebron played better than he did last year, the difference was, his team sucked.

This

[DaSeba5]

Watch the games.
There is no excuse to be passive in the finals as a team leader both on offense and defense.
It was a terrible sighting, surely doesn't pass the eye test

Can you post the stats please? The eye test is for Kobe stans.

[TMT]

Nah, Lebron actually played like he had balls attached to his body unlike 2011. But his lack of a killer instinct and passiveness in moments when the team needed him to step up are still clearly an issue. His team being awful also doesn't help.

[ibjar7]

Oh come on, I dont really like lebron but everybody knows that he was the only player on the heat doing anything. Loss is not on him. We all saw the game, your just trying too hard. Lebron is still the best player in the league

[SexSymbol]

He shut Parker out of the game today, and had him scared to drive in the paint.

So how was his defense, non impactful?

Lebron played better than he did last year, the difference was, his team sucked.
He did not shut parker down, he missed his first 8 shots wide open, the defended him on one, then he missed again nearly wide open and from that point on he was like 7/8, 3/3 while being guarded by bron

[lilteapot]

Bosh, Andersen
Andersen was horrible and useless this series.

Thanks for proving you didn't actually watch the games

[PsychoBe]

Can you post the stats please? The eye test is for Kobe stans.

9 points in the first half of a decisive game 4 :roll: :roll: :roll:

3 points in the second quarter of the decisive game 5 where him and his team completely blew a 7 point lead and where he allowed patty mills to blow by him to which he aplogized by saying "my fault" to his teammates :roll: :roll: :roll:

game 1 final quarter - dnp player's decision the only player not to play due to "hazardous conditions" :roll: :roll: :roll:

dude literally had one impactful game and that was game 2.

[Warfan]

9 points in the first half of a decisive game 4 :roll: :roll: :roll:

3 points in the second quarter of the decisive game 5 where him and his team completely blew a 7 point lead and where he allowed patty mills to blow by him to which he aplogized by saying "my fault" to his teammates :roll: :roll: :roll:

game 1 final quarter - dnp player's decision the only player not to play due to "hazardous conditions" :roll: :roll: :roll:

dude literally had one impactful game and that was game 2.

Meh, he had 20 in the half, half of the teams points. Not gonna criticize him for that...

[SexSymbol]

Andersen was horrible and useless this series.

Thanks for proving you didn't actually watch the games
I was in the game thread every ****ing game

[PsychoBe]

Meh, he had 20 in the half, half of the teams points. Not gonna criticize him for that...

that just proves that his defense didn't improve at all. you cant tell me that bran wasnt just another defensive liability out there. and once kawhi started guarding him he couldnt even get a shot off anymore.

[SexSymbol]

Meh, he had 20 in the half, half of the teams points. Not gonna criticize him for that...
17 in the first quarter that the heat won. 3 FGA in the second quarter that the heat were completely destroyed as a result.
Never tried after that 1st Q

[Real14]

I agree completely.

[White Mamba]

Agree

got blown out 4 out of 5 games, with a very good team not with 2007 cavs.

not even one impressive 4th quarter.

[aj1987]

I was in the game thread every ****ing game
Then you must not know shit about basketball. LeBron's second highest scorer would've been the 4th highest scorer on the Spurs and 3rd highest scorer would've been 5th. Not to mention the fact that there's not even a single player on the Heat, who was close enough to being a good defender.

LeBron led the team in points, assists, rebounds, steals, FG%, 3pt%, MPG, and 2nd in blocks. I'm a huge Wade fan, but a lot of the blame lies on him. 15/4/3 on 50% TS, while playing Haren like defense? Nobody's winning the Finals with his 2nd best player performing like that. The starting center averaged 14/5 with 0.2 blocks. The same number of blocks as the 38 year old back up SG. Miami's starting PG was complete ass as well. Also, the Spurs shot 53 and 47 from the 2 and 3. Miami shot 47 and 40. Miami's defense was extremely bad.

Yeah, lets ignore all that call LeBron a choker. Lets ignore the fact that the supporting cast played like D-League players.

Retarded ass Kobetards.

[edrick]

Bosh, Andersen

WTF did Andersen do? lol

So Lebron's biggest help is a dude that didn't score more than 13 points in any of the last 3 games? :rolleyes:

[Lebron23]

He was the best individual player in this series. He had his best finals scoring averages. Wade and the Heat underperformed in the finals.

[JellyBean]

Oh my goodness. LeBron played his butt off in this series, which played into the Spurs hands because it probably took the rest of the Heat out of their rhythm and limited their touches. But LeBron was going to get blamed no matter win or lose, so as Jordan use to say "If I am going to lose, I am going to make sure that I go down with nothing left in my arsenal." LeBron did not choke.

[Lebron23]

Oh my goodness. LeBron played his butt off in this series, which played into the Spurs hands because it probably took the rest of the Heat out of their rhythm and limited their touches. But LeBron was going to get blamed no matter win or lose, so as Jordan use to say "If I am going to lose, I am going to make sure that I go down with nothing left in my arsenal." LeBron did not choke.


You are one of the smartest and most level headed Kobe fans in this forum.

[BoutPractice]

Sorry, but no, you're not going to be able to spin this one. LeBron showed up and did his job this time, they were just facing a better team.