Have Kobe fans changed their player ranking criteria?

[ArbitraryWater]

I think they concentrate on finals win/loss record now from what I'm seing...

Been reading a lot "5/7" and "2/5" lately..

[BoutPractice]

Well they need to find something else quickly, because 5/6 is technically better than 5/7. Nevermind that it's a silly argument to begin with, it doesn't work to their advantage this time.

[DMV2]

By default, they're basically admitting Duncan is better. :lol

Shit is so stupid though when nobody even cares about Magic or Kareem's 4 Finals loses.

[IllegalD]

Who cares? :confusedshrug:

Both Kobe and Duncan >>> LeBron. All is right in the basketball world. :applause:

[Real14]

Well they need to find something else quickly, because 5/6 is technically better than 5/7. Nevermind that it's a silly argument to begin with, it doesn't work to their advantage this time.
you mean 4/6

[T_L_P]

you mean 4/6

:biggums:

[ArbitraryWater]

you mean 4/6

Who would that be?

[JohnMax]

Their argument against Duncan is Head-2-Head which Lebron owns Kobe.

[Real14]

:biggums:
yea your boy Duncan has 4 legit rings.

[T_L_P]

yea your boy Duncan has 4 legit rings.

Kobe failing to win a ring in a weaker season = all time great fail.

Duncan's 4 > Bean's 5

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2540973/howarddealwithit.gif

[Yao Ming's Foot]

It's not a fraction.

5 rings = 5 rings
7 finals appearances > 6 finals appearances

5/7 > 5/6

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Their argument against Duncan is Head-2-Head in the playoffs which Lebron dodged Kobe.

Fixed that for you

[JellyBean]

Nope. I still have Kobe ranking higher on my all-time list over Duncan.

[ArbitraryWater]

Nope. I still have Kobe ranking higher on my all-time list over Duncan.

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

There's no argument....

Duncan has a higher peak, longer prime, longer longevity... more efficient scorer, more of a teamplayer, twice the leader&teammate, can buy into a system, 3x times the defender, way better rebounder, better playoff&finals performer, edge in statistics & advanced statistics, more mvp's, more finals mvp's, more titles as leader/best player...

NO DEBATE.

Kobe = Stopped playing defense in 2004, egoistical cancer that has run multiple players out of town or hindered their progress (Shaq, Bynum, Howard), horrible leader/teammate, but more ppg...

It's always hilarious when Kobe fans say "stats dont matter/look past stats!" Literally everyting beyond statistics, INTANGIBLES AND CONTEXT, would suggest Kobe to be a WORSE player.... his late game choke jobs, no shows in big games, no defense since 2004 outside of 2008&2009 playoffs, weak side rebounds, home cooking assists, being a horrible locker room guy/teammate/leader... etc.

[DMV2]

yea your boy Duncan has 4 legit rings.
What about Bean's rings?

Only played in 4 full games of the possible 6 games in the 2000 Finals. 1/2 a ring!

2002 ring*

3 rings, 1/2 ring, an 1* for Bean

[Heavincent]

2/5

[ArbitraryWater]

2/5

You mean 25? 25%? Is that Kobe's Game 7?

[hawke812]

I think they concentrate on finals win/loss record now from what I'm seing...

Been reading a lot "5/7" and "2/5" lately..

Still the same:

1a. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
1b. Kobe Bryant
1c. Magic Johnson
1d. Shaquille O'Neal
1e. Wilt Chamberlain
.
.
.
.
.
11. Michael Jordan

[ArbitraryWater]

Still the same:

1a. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
1b. Kobe Bryant
1c. Magic Johnson
1d. Shaquille O'Neal
1e. Wilt Chamberlain
.
.
.
.
.
11. Michael Jordan


Damn, 5 Lakers to start the GOAT List with Jordan at 11...



At least you were able to see past your fan bias and keep it objective :cheers:

[crisoner]

First people putting up that figure were Jordan Stan's.....

But they are right. 2-5 on the biggest stage is not a good look.
You guys had LeBron challenging Jordan...that shit is gone now.
Duncan is now in the convo and Kobe is sitting pretty at 5 titles.


Those are just facts deal with if LeBron stans!!!

[Mr Feeny]

It's not a fraction.

5 rings = 5 rings
7 finals appearances > 6 finals appearances

5/7 > 5/6

So Duncan has a higher winning percentage in finals than Kobe? Cool:bowdown:

[Mr Feeny]

Still the same:

1a. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
1b. Kobe Bryant
1c. Magic Johnson
1d. Shaquille O'Neal
1e. Wilt Chamberlain
.
.
.
.
.
11. Michael Jordan

Seems legit

[Ne 1]

Kobe failing to win a ring in a weaker season = all time great fail.

Duncan's 4 > Bean's 5

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2540973/howarddealwithit.gif
16 > 4.5

[kamil]

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