how good will the Spurs be next year when they get Spanoulis?

[jzek]

We know he's been watching these Finals.
We know he wants a comeback.
We know the Spurs are Euro-friendly.
We know the Spurs have been courting him since last year.

Almost unfair if the best team in the NBA gets the best player in Europe. :wtf:

[Oly BC]

Dynasty and the perfect ginobili replacement but Spanoulis has a team to lead.

[Le Shaqtus]

They miss the playoffs.

[Milbuck]

Pretty much how good they would be without him, considering his scrub ass wouldn't see the floor even in garbage time.

[Oly BC]

Illiterate NBA fans never learn :facepalm

[JUDGE WITNESS]

well hes definitely gonna be the spurs' tmac :lol

[Derka]

If he's not ready to do any and every single thing Greg Popovitch tells him, he'll fail again.

[Nick Young]

Spanoulis the perfect 3rd string guard behind Tony Parker and Patty Mills:bowdown:

[CavaliersFTW]

Not even Coach Pop could get that scrub to produce in the NBA

2.7ppg on 30%, 18% from 3, that was almost 10 years and 30lbs ago

[Rooster]

Spurs will have a TMac of towel boys.:oldlol:

[Oly BC]

In the much more competitive euroleague, where all teams are decent and not just one (even though the spurs are right up there with the best:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: ), Spanoulis had 15,1ppg and 4.6 assists. Manu at the age of 25 was a 15.9ppg and 3 assists player.
ie Spanoulis is prime Manu in scoring ability and old Manu in creativity. Best of both worlds!

Danny Green also at the age of 25 was an 11,4 ppg and 1,9 assists player.:oldlol:


Therefore Spanoulis would walk in the starting line up and the Spurs would set the mediocre NBA league alight in an even more emphatic manner, teaching the cavemen who fap over stats and stars the value of passing and high basketball IQ.:applause:


The thought itself is orgasmic but Spanoulis being the definition of Alpha will stick by his team and lead them to further glory. For that we here can only be greatful.
Βααασίλης Σπανουυυυύλης, Βαααασίλης Σπανουυυυυύλης


*sobs*

[Euroleague]

From everything I know, he really wants out of Olympiacos. Nothing to do with the team.

It's an extreme hatred with the Greek League and how it is being rigged every year, the media always taunting him, covering it up, the endless amount of terrorism that is allowed to go on from the owners of Panathinaikos and their extreme hooligan fans towards him and the game situations and all of this kind of stuff.

Like riots in games, final series not finishing, etc.

Also that he's extremely frustrated that the Greek Basketball Federation is largely involved and behind this as well, but gives no credit to guys playing every year for the national team, then destroys them in the press (which is also mostly owned and controlled by Panathinaikos).

While meanwhile, someone like Diamantidis refused to even play for the team for many years and is literally worshiped as god there - I'm not just saying that, he is called "God". The media, the federation, the league, the fans...

All the whole league, the refs, everything set for him. If Wade is D-Whistle, then Diamantidis is DDD-Whistle.

It's freaking unbelievable.

But with all of this being so, from what I understand he's also frustrated that in Olympiacos he played all season with a bad knee injury to try to help the team, and it was a team that got wrecked by a bunch of injuries (like top 3 players injured in Top 16 and Euroleague playoffs) , a main guard out for the season, etc.

And despite this, many of the fans of his club were bashing and attacking him. And despite that the Greek League is rigged every year, and ALL of the fans of his club KNOW that, they were still attacking him over something that is rigged by the refs.

On top of this, from what I know, he's very mad about the owners of the team if they do go all the way through with banning him permanently from the Greek national team.

He understands the reasons why they feel they have to do it, and the motives for it, but he wants to play for the national team and he's not ready to be forced to retire from it and miss these big tournaments in his prime like this 2014 FIBA World Cup, the next EuroBasket (which Greece might host the final stage), and then the 2016 Olympics - all tournaments where he would lead the team and Greece would have huge chances to win medals.

But he is being forced to retire from the national team as it stands now by his team and miss out on all of that and he is upset by that. That can be an enormous destruction to his whole career and his entire legacy and history as a player, and just that for him, playing for Greece is by far the most important thing, it's much more important than playing with his club.

The owners of Olympiacos are simply saying he's under contract and they refuse to let him go in a buyout or to release him. Nothing more was said now and his agent said no team talked to them.

That's fine, but if they do indeed force him to retire from the national team, which they have made clear as it stands they will do and are going to do, then he will be out of Olympiacos fairly soon.

Remember the draft has not happened yet, and free agency has not happened yet in NBA. And even in Europe, you still have leagues happening for some of the big clubs, which is still holding up a lot of the transfers.

And if the Spurs did want Spanoulis, ANYONE that thinks he isn't playing over Mills, Green, Belinelli, and guys like that is truly retarded.

Popovich will man crush Spanoulis like no other play ever. He's Steve Nash with an edge, nastiness, grittiness, toughness, defense, and huge balls.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

From everything I know, he really wants out of Olympiacos. Nothing to do with the team.

It's an extreme hatred with the Greek League and how it is being rigged every year, the media always taunting him, covering it up, the endless amount of terrorism that is allowed to go on from the owners of Panathinaikos and their extreme hooligan fans towards him and the game situations and all of this kind of stuff.

Like riots in games, final series not finishing, etc.

Also that he's extremely frustrated that the Greek Basketball Federation is largely involved and behind this as well, but gives no credit to guys playing every year for the national team, then destroys them in the press (which is also mostly owned and controlled by Panathinaikos).

While meanwhile, someone like Diamantidis refused to even play for the team for many years and is literally worshiped as god there - I'm not just saying that, he is called "God". The media, the federation, the league, the fans...

All the whole league, the refs, everything set for him. If Wade is D-Whistle, then Diamantidis is DDD-Whistle.

It's freaking unbelievable.

But with all of this being so, from what I understand he's also frustrated that in Olympiacos he played all season with a bad knee injury to try to help the team, and it was a team that got wrecked by a bunch of injuries (like top 3 players injured in Top 16 and Euroleague playoffs) , a main guard out for the season, etc.

And despite this, many of the fans of his club were bashing and attacking him. And despite that the Greek League is rigged every year, and ALL of the fans of his club KNOW that, they were still attacking him over something that is rigged by the refs.

On top of this, from what I know, he's very mad about the owners of the team if they do go all the way through with banning him permanently from the Greek national team.

He understands the reasons why they feel they have to do it, and the motives for it, but he wants to play for the national team and he's not ready to be forced to retire from it and miss these big tournaments in his prime like this 2014 FIBA World Cup, the next EuroBasket (which Greece might host the final stage), and then the 2016 Olympics - all tournaments where he would lead the team and Greece would have huge chances to win medals.

But he is being forced to retire from the national team as it stands now by his team and miss out on all of that and he is upset by that. That can be an enormous destruction to his whole career and his entire legacy and history as a player, and just that for him, playing for Greece is by far the most important thing, it's much more important than playing with his club.

The owners of Olympiacos are simply saying he's under contract and they refuse to let him go in a buyout or to release him. Nothing more was said now and his agent said no team talked to them.

That's fine, but if they do indeed force him to retire from the national team, which they have made clear as it stands they will do and are going to do, then he will be out of Olympiacos fairly soon.

Remember the draft has not happened yet, and free agency has not happened yet in NBA. And even in Europe, you still have leagues happening for some of the big clubs, which is still holding up a lot of the transfers.

And if the Spurs did want Spanoulis, ANYONE that thinks he isn't playing over Mills, Green, Belinelli, and guys like that is truly retarded.

Popovich will man crush Spanoulis like no other play ever. He's Steve Nash with an edge, nastiness, grittiness, toughness, defense, and huge balls.

Maybe current Steve Nash without the shooting.

[Haymaker]

I think Mills has done a pretty good job, why take Spanoulis?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Honestly, I think V-span could actually be a decent player in the NBA. A team like Indiana should take a gamble on him.

[Dr.J4ever]

I don't know how he fits in in SA, if they even want him at this point. But Vspan should finally come over to the NBA. It's just time. He's not getting any younger at 32.

What else does he have to prove in Europe at this point? If he really wants to be seen as a world class level PG, he has to take the NBA plunge. US NBA fans will never respect you unless you can get it done in the NBA, the ultimate proving ground.

I would be glad to finally see him play here everyday somewhere. Get it done!:cheers:

[davehos]

Spurs don't need a guard. Parker, Mills, and CJ are great not only in terms of skill at point but any can slide into the 2. Priority #1 for Spurs this off season should be to resign Mills and Diaw then go after a PF/C with whatever cap space they have remaining. Gortat or Gasol would be fantastic.

[jzek]

I think Mills has done a pretty good job, why take Spanoulis?

Mills will do a JJ Barea and leave for more money.

[tgan3]

If spanoulis plays for spurs and they win the next NBA finals vs Heat and Lebron, Euroleagues gonna claim that Spanoulis >>> Lebron.

[alexd]

He wants out of Olympiakos cause he realised he can t win.He can t produce against panathinaikos.He always plays bad against them and he s frustated.But late news say that he ll stay eventually
Anyway he would be a solid role player with the Spurs.It was his fault he left from the beginning.He has the tools to provide spark from the bench.Especially in his younger years
BUT the main problem with his is that he wants to be the man.He wants to be the leader although he lacks leadership and iq ball.He drives really good but as he digress he settles for jumpers and eh s not that good of a shooter.If he accepts his role in Pop system he can play like 15-20 min per game max
Is he gonna be a star in the nba?no he never was gonna be one
is he gonna be a solid role player?sure he has the tools to be one
is he gonna be a benchwarmer?if he still has the same attitude sure
The main reason he left the Spurs is that he wanted to be the main man.So he left and came to europe to be in charge of olympiakos

[davehos]

Mills will do a JJ Barea and leave for more money.

I think the Spurs will pay him. They have money.

[Dr.J4ever]

He wants out of Olympiakos cause he realised he can t win.He can t produce against panathinaikos.He always plays bad against them and he s frustated.But late news say that he ll stay eventually
Anyway he would be a solid role player with the Spurs.It was his fault he left from the beginning.He has the tools to provide spark from the bench.Especially in his younger years
BUT the main problem with his is that he wants to be the man.He wants to be the leader although he lacks leadership and iq ball.He drives really good but as he digress he settles for jumpers and eh s not that good of a shooter.If he accepts his role in Pop system he can play like 15-20 min per game max
Is he gonna be a star in the nba?no he never was gonna be one
is he gonna be a solid role player?sure he has the tools to be one
is he gonna be a benchwarmer?if he still has the same attitude sure
The main reason he left the Spurs is that he wanted to be the main man.So he left and came to europe to be in charge of olympiakos

Alex, is all this stuff that EL(the poster) is saying true? Was the Greek League Finals rigged? Did Vspan really want to get out because of this? Is the NBA really under consideration? Are those "rumors" true?

Cause EL doesn't provide any links, as usual.

[Oly BC]

He wants to be the leader although he lacks leadership
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Oly BC]

Alex, is all this stuff that EL(the poster) is saying true? Was the Greek League Finals rigged?
Typical refereeing in a greek league final (olympiakos won this game in the end, 3rd of the series)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgV-LDTKPms

In the 4th game with Olympiacos 1 point down and aiming to stop the clock, they don't call either the travelling or the fouls commited
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dhcNkmRRPQ


Pao deserved to win only in the 5th game.



Did Vspan really want to get out because of this? Is the NBA really under consideration? Are those "rumors" true?
What did happen is that in the post match interview after the 5th game, Spanoulis didn't make any comment on whether he'd stay. There are no official remarks, just reporters who are or aren't "in the know".

I don't think he's going anywhere, he'll retire at Olympiacos and we'll hang his divine jersey from the stadium's ceiling.:bowdown:

[alexd]

Alex, is all this stuff that EL(the poster) is saying true? Was the Greek League Finals rigged? Did Vspan really want to get out because of this? Is the NBA really under consideration? Are those "rumors" true?

Cause EL doesn't provide any links, as usual.
There s always gonna be rumors about rigged matches etc.Maybe they are maybe they dont.Personally i care more about the game than which teams wins.In Greece unfortunately fans want to kill each other,perhaps not fans more the people who go to the matches.I envy alot that in the US you can actually cheer for whichever team you want and no one is goona threaten/hurt you etc
Were the game rigged?nuh .no one forced spanoulis to play like shit.I mean he averaged like 30+ Did the refs made him play like shit and score like 7 points?Or miss freethrows?
They did a decent job
From what i ve read Spanoulis is really mad and considers to leave the team but lately news say that he ll stay
If he wants to go to the NBA he can find a team to play but he needs to readjust his demeanour but i don t see him doing that
As i said before i don t like the guy not because i think he sucks,but because he could be so much more.He had the tools to have a great career in the NBA as well but his too damn stupid and proud.You can t have tmac and yao on your team and demand playing time as a rookie.He whines alot instead of working on his craft and as he ages its more obvious.He can t really shot but he settles for three pointers ,he can t really orchestrate an offense,he holds the ball too long and when he uses pick and roll instead of attacking the basket he either dribbles more or shoots

[riseagainst]

they will get 2/5 better.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He will fulfill TMacs role from last year

[MavsPoke]

Blah blah blah blah, Olympiacos.

I stopped reading right there and thought about a taco so great it won the Olympics.
:D

[hawksdogsbraves]

Patty Mills >>>> Spanoulis. The Spurs don't need him.

[SCdac]

with v-span? .... threepeat, possible 4 peat

[Oly BC]

He can t really shot but he settles for three pointers ,he can t really orchestrate an offense,he holds the ball too long and when he uses pick and roll instead of attacking the basket he either dribbles more or shoots
So salty it's hilarious.:roll:

[alexd]

So salty it's hilarious.:roll:
spanoulis stats this year
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=JUO
50% on two pointers
34,4 % on three pointers
4,6 asp
3,1 to per game
so yeah he can t really shoot.when he drives or shoot from mid range he s pretty good but he kinda suck at 3 point range
he commits way to many to
he has 1.4 assist/to ratio
how exactly am i salty?
a prime example of his bad shooting and all of the things i talked about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBKlXjIlfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5myOayBU3c
he has a bad form and a bad realease.even at the freethrow line he never uses his legs.he shoots only with arms which is a big mistake and shows that he hasn t work on basic things

[Oly BC]

He can't really orchestrate an offence but he's been leading the team (a successful team mind you) in points and assists for 3 seasons in a row with every defence focused on him. :rolleyes:
51,1% and 34,4% means that both are equally effective so there is no "settling" and you have either never seen us playing or willfully ignore the fact that a ton of those 3s are 9m desperation shots when the time runs out and the ball returns to him.


In any case I won't debate stats with you. Fact of the matter is Spanoulis left Pao and led an olympiacos team with a miniscule budget to repeating titles. Currently, the huge, huge gap between the two teams isn't questioned by anyone who follows european basketball. Those are enough reasons for pao fans to feel salty. :oldlol:

[alexd]

He can't really orchestrate an offence but he's been leading the team (a successful team mind you) in points and assists for 3 seasons in a row with every defence focused on him. :rolleyes:
51,1% and 34,4% means that both are equally effective so there is no "settling" and you have either never seen us playing or willfully ignore the fact that a ton of those 3s are 9m desperation shots when the time runs out and the ball returns to him.


In any case I won't debate stats with you. Fact of the matter is Spanoulis left Pao and led an olympiacos team with a miniscule budget to repeating titles. Currently, the huge, huge gap between the two teams isn't questioned by anyone who follows european basketball. Those are enough reasons for pao fans to feel salty. :oldlol:
If you read my comments I always say that spanoulis is a great player.but he could be so much more if he was smarter.i m not salty in any way.i love the game much more than a team.I m fan of aek I m not biased or salty in any way.but facts are facts.just like diamantidis can t play or carry a team any more.but what separates them is that diamantidis is a better leader just like papaloukas.they are t the scorer spanoulis is but they are better in everything else.if you watch all the important games you ll see that spanoulis can t carry a team just like the Greek national team.he has his moments in a game where he ll score but he ll cool off pretty fast.he is shorter than the diamantidis and papalkukas so he can t post up as his athleticism fades.as a result he settles for jumpers cause they often double team him and he can t penetrate to the basket.his ideal role in a team is the second option and in the NBA he would be a great role player providing spark from the bench.i mean patty mills was great for the spurs and he s nowhere near the level of spanoulis.stats never lie.they can hide a players talent for example effort on defence etc.nut when a guys shoots at 34% it's pretty obvious that he s not a great shooter

[Dr.J4ever]

If you read my comments I always say that spanoulis is a great player.but he could be so much more if he was smarter.i m not salty in any way.i love the game much more than a team.I m fan of aek I m not biased or salty in any way.but facts are facts.just like diamantidis can t play or carry a team any more.but what separates them is that diamantidis is a better leader just like papaloukas.they are t the scorer spanoulis is but they are better in everything else.if you watch all the important games you ll see that spanoulis can t carry a team just like the Greek national team.he has his moments in a game where he ll score but he ll cool off pretty fast.he is shorter than the diamantidis and papalkukas so he can t post up as his athleticism fades.as a result he settles for jumpers cause they often double team him and he can t penetrate to the basket.his ideal role in a team is the second option and in the NBA he would be a great role player providing spark from the bench.i mean patty mills was great for the spurs and he s nowhere near the level of spanoulis.stats never lie.they can hide a players talent for example effort on defence etc.nut when a guys shoots at 34% it's pretty obvious that he s not a great shooter
Well said. You are one of the few objective Euro guys on this site. Hopefully, Vspan really goes to the NBA this time. He has nothing left to prove in Europe. If he cares about what history will say about him, he has to redeem himself in the NBA.

[Oly BC]

Well said. You are one of the few objective Euro guys on this site. Hopefully, Vspan really goes to the NBA this time. He has nothing left to prove in Europe. If he cares about what history will say about him, he has to redeem himself in the NBA.
1/10, too obvious.



If you read my comments I always say that spanoulis is a great player.but he could be so much more if he was smarter.i m not salty in any way.i love the game much more than a team.I m fan of aek I m not biased or salty in any way.but facts are facts.just like diamantidis can t play or carry a team any more.but what separates them is that diamantidis is a better leader just like papaloukas.they are t the scorer spanoulis is but they are better in everything else.if you watch all the important games you ll see that spanoulis can t carry a team just like the Greek national team.he has his moments in a game where he ll score but he ll cool off pretty fast.he is shorter than the diamantidis and papalkukas so he can t post up as his athleticism fades.as a result he settles for jumpers cause they often double team him and he can t penetrate to the basket.his ideal role in a team is the second option and in the NBA he would be a great role player providing spark from the bench.i mean patty mills was great for the spurs and he s nowhere near the level of spanoulis.stats never lie.they can hide a players talent for example effort on defence etc.nut when a guys shoots at 34% it's pretty obvious that he s not a great shooter
No one, not even Michael Jordan could carry a greek team filled with trash like Bramos, retirees like Fotsis and people too bored to jump for a rebound like Mavrokefalidis. What Spanoulis could do is lead the team in points, assists and freaking rebounds in the win-or-go-home game against Slovenia in the last eurobasket.
Papaloukas has also played for Olympiacos with a much better overall roster and ended up with no titles and if stats never lie, James should have been fmvp but leaders don't stat pad, they win.


Keep on being salty.

[MiseryCityTexas]

We know he's been watching these Finals.
We know he wants a comeback.
We know the Spurs are Euro-friendly.
We know the Spurs have been courting him since last year.

Almost unfair if the best team in the NBA gets the best player in Europe. :wtf:


The Spurs had him in a Rockets trade a long time ago and they got rid of him.

[alexd]

1/10, too obvious.



No one, not even Michael Jordan could carry a greek team filled with trash like Bramos, retirees like Fotsis and people too bored to jump for a rebound like Mavrokefalidis. What Spanoulis could do is lead the team in points, assists and freaking rebounds in the win-or-go-home game against Slovenia in the last eurobasket.
Papaloukas has also played for Olympiacos with a much better overall roster and ended up with no titles and if stats never lie, James should have been fmvp but leaders don't stat pad, they win.


Keep on being salty.
You either don t know anything about basketball or you are trolling.if u ever played ball professionally or taken it more serious you would know that above all is science.from what shooting form you have to what arc your shot should have or how to properly set a pick.spanoulis even at free throws he has awful mechanism.he uses his upper body that s why his legs are held still.its ok to be a casual fan and be a fan of a player but keep an open mind about other s people opinion.perhaps they know a bit more.in all my posts I back up my words with stats and common sense.all you said is he led the team in scoring etc and I m salty.try to be more open minded since you have little knowledge of the game and the science behind it.leading a team in scoring assists etc is due to having the ball in your hands all the time.lebron did it in Cleveland but he had 0 results.spanoulis is a terrible leader.there s a difference in being vocal or lead by example and whining
Check the videos I provided and you LL see prime examples of him holding the ball too long or taking ill advised threepointers