Is Tim Duncan the first GOAT top 10 to win as a "role" player?

[Mr. Jabbar]

He has an important role no doubt, but this is not a 1b thing, its not 2nd fiddle either. Its a role. Well, is he?

*this is a non troll thread, please leave bran and kobe out of it.

[Odinn]

It takes guts to mention about Kareem's 1988 Title. Right? Since Kareem vs. Kobe is an absolute joke and probably insult to Kareem.

Idiot.

[DMAVS41]

Not if you count Kobe as a top 10 player.

16/5/4 41% TS

vs

15/10/2 61% TS

Meh...give me Duncan all day.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Kareem vs. Kobe

get this troll out of here

[Im so nba'd out]

This gif pretty much sums up Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan's Career in a nutshell
http://gifs.gifbin.com/112010/1290455599_sportsmanship-fail.gif
Tim won the race kobe with that sportsmanship doe

http://s30.postimg.org/k6arlptg1/lol.jpg

http://thenewsportsguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/KobeInjuredWarriors.gif :applause:

his stan wish
http://s27.postimg.org/rtb0s9r9f/ish.jpg

[Mr. Jabbar]

Not if you count Kobe as a top 10 player.

16/5/4 41% TS

vs

15/10/2 61% TS

Meh...give me Duncan all day.

2 trolls in a row :facepalm

[Harison]

Shaq '06
Kareem '88 (40 years old he was a role player, but as 39 he was still damn good, 21.7/ 7.3 in the Finals).

[Mr. Jabbar]

2nd fiddle > role

just clarification

[Roundball_Rock]

Kareem '88 (40 years old he was a role player, but as 39 he was still damn good, 21.7/ 7.3 in the Finals).

Even in 88' the Lakers were calling KAJ's number in clutch situations and he averaged around 14-15 ppg in the Finals, similar to Duncan, despite being 41 by the time of the Finals and being in his 20th season. :bowdown:

[Inactive]

I wouldn't call him a role player. He was their 2nd leading scorer in the playoffs, as well as their leading rebounder and shot blocker. He also played the most minutes.

[Carbine]

He was:

2nd is ppg
1st in rpg
3rd in assists
1st in blocks
1st in PER
2nd in WS (only 0.3 behind the leader, Leonard)

Playoffs:

2nd in ppg
1st is rpg
1st in blocks
5th in assists
1st in all advanced stats

He wasn't "the man."

But he wasn't a role player either.


Just for comparison...

Bill Russell in '66 was 4th in ppg, 2nd in apg, 1st in rpg and blocks....and was 7th on the team in fg percentage and 11th in free throw percentage.

He was 7th on the team in ppg, 2nd assists, 1st in rebounds and blocks and 4th in advanced stats in '68

Kareem was 3rd in ppg, 5th in apg, 2nd in rpg, 1st in blocks and 5th in advanced stats in '87 RS. He was 3rd in ppg, 3rd in rpg, 5th in apg, 1st in blocks and was 4th in PER and 3rd in WS in the playoggs, which was his 5th and second to last title.

[T_L_P]

00 Kobe, 06 Shaq.

What role is Duncan filling? T be the second best scorer and defensive anchor?

[DMAVS41]

2 trolls in a row :facepalm

How is that trolling?

If you consider Kobe top 10 all time...he already won a ring as a role player.

Unless you consider what Kobe did in the 00 finals somehow different than what Duncan did this year.

[Legends66NBA7]

Kareem's ring in 88 is that of a role player too then.

14.1/5.5/1.5/0.6/1.5 on 46.4%fg

[SOD 21]

Not if you count Kobe as a top 10 player.

16/5/4 41% TS

vs

15/10/2 61% TS

Meh...give me Duncan all day.

Cherry picking stats and not giving the full story is a good way to form arguments.

Yes, Kobe Bryant statistics in the 2000 NBA finals were not good, overall. But that also fails to mention that he was intentionally hurt by Jalen Rose and missed one full game and missed almost three quarters of another. Jalen essentially admitted that there was no way that Indiana could win against Los Angeles Lakers with both Kobe and Shaq, so he attempted to take Kobe out of that series.

Also, let's not ignore that Kobe Bryant averaged 23 points, five rebounds, 4 1/2 assists, 46% fg and 37% on three is heading into the finals prior to his injury.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Jabbar you shoulda known what you were gettin into with this thread......kobe haters are nothin but trolls

yes, i was naive

[r0drig0lac]

Duncan was the second best player of the team in the regular season and the playoffs, like kobe ​​in his first three rings, far from a role player

[Kiddlovesnets]

Kareem was clearly a role player in 87 and 88. I dont think Kobe counts here though, hes a top 15 player but not top 10. We are talking about top 10 all time.

[Lonely_Sandberg]

Not if you count Kobe as a top 10 player.

16/5/4 41% TS

vs

15/10/2 61% TS

Meh...give me Duncan all day.

http://abload.de/img/holt24epg0.gif

[Mr. Jabbar]

feel free to delete this thread mods, it has been taken by the trolls

http://www.evilengineering.com/gallery/d/38705-1/r10466_****%20this%20thread%20outta%20here.jpg

[houston]

yes he was no all-star,all-nba, and all-defense

[AirFederer]

Not if you count Kobe as a top 10 player.

16/5/4 41% TS

vs

15/10/2 61% TS

Meh...give me Duncan all day.

And Defencive achoring.

Jabbar fails again :facepalm

[BoutPractice]

No
/endthread

[DMAVS41]

Cherry picking stats and not giving the full story is a good way to form arguments.

Yes, Kobe Bryant statistics in the 2000 NBA finals were not good, overall. But that also fails to mention that he was intentionally hurt by Jalen Rose and missed one full game and missed almost three quarters of another. Jalen essentially admitted that there was no way that Indiana could win against Los Angeles Lakers with both Kobe and Shaq, so he attempted to take Kobe out of that series.

Also, let's not ignore that Kobe Bryant averaged 23 points, five rebounds, 4 1/2 assists, 46% fg and 37% on three is heading into the finals prior to his injury.

And lets not ignore what Duncan did as well.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I actually mentioned to my friend during game 4 that I give Duncan a ton of credit, because I'm not sure if any of the other top 10 GOATs would accept being a role player, even if they were winning. Really a solid team basketball player and person.

[icemanfan]

I wouldn't call him a role player. He was their 2nd leading scorer in the playoffs, as well as their leading rebounder and shot blocker. He also played the most minutes.
the folks who worship stats and individual play have no reference nor ability to appreciate a superstar who knows how and when to defer to teammates. Knows how to make a team a TEAM. The can not understand not running to a team that is already a championship to pick up a ring and take credit because they lack class, they lack integrity and they have no understanding of the soul of what is the great game of basketball. If your "star" does not know how to make things work as a "team" then he is not a star.

[ArbitraryWater]

http://abload.de/img/holt24epg0.gif

True, he forgot to add Duncan has the edge in defense too....

Like why do you guys think once we go "beyond stats", that Kobe would suddenly trump every player there is? :biggums: :lol

It's ridiculous

[Artillery]

2000 Kobe wasn't a role player?

[nightprowler10]

yes, i was naive
BS. You jump straight into calling him a role player as if that's an established fact. This is a troll thread and it got what it deserved. :oldlol:

[red1]

Laughable thread. Duncan has more talent in one of his toenails than chuckbe has in his entire rapist body. Mods

[lilgodfather1]

Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, KAJ.

Winning a title is never a bad thing.

[masonanddixon]

Shaq was essentially a role player in 05-06 Finals or was at least relegated to being one.

[Stringer Bell]

:oldlol: at all the "role player" junk.

[Bigsmoke]

winning is winning.

[Asukal]

He played the most minutes while averaging a double double as a starter. That is a role player? :confusedshrug:

Kobe stans can't accept that old man Duncan just passed Kobe on the all time list. :oldlol:

[bdreason]

Duncan is still the most important player on the team. Even Parker's production is more easily replaced.