I don't blame Lebron for the Heat losing

[SpecialQue]

I mean, it's funny that the Heat lost, I just don't blame Lebron for it. His teammates shit the bed. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional.

[Rose'sACL]

You're a lebron Stan so of course you don't blame him.

[Mr. Jabbar]

I agree, somewhat. He didnt took the extra step all time greats should. and was passive towards defeat. But Wade was turrible. Bran fans were calling (nash and howards lakers version) elite hofers, it has come to bite them in the ass...its about how they play not their name.

[Meticode]

Only thing I blame LeBron for is turning the ball over so much, but the flip side of that is he had to handle the ball more because his teammates sucked so bad.

[LBJ 23]

No surprise there. You're one of the few rational Lakers fans on here who actually understands what he sees.

[Meticode]

I agree, somewhat. He didnt took the extra step all time greats should. and was passive towards defeat. But Wade was turrible. Bran fans were calling (nash and howards lakers version) elite hofers, it has come to bite them in the ass...its about how they play not their name.
Definitely passive towards defeat. In game 5 in the first quarter he goes off for his best quarter in the playoffs, then it's almost like he backs off and is like "Okay teammates, help me, I did my part."

[Inactive]

He played really well throughout the series, but he didn't have any amazing 40/15/7 games. If he had risen to the occasion like MJ would've, then maybe it would've taken 6-7 games for the Spurs to beat them.

[Bandito]

I agree, somewhat. He didnt took the extra step all time greats should. and was passive towards defeat. But Wade was turrible. Bran fans were calling (nash and howards lakers version) elite hofers, it has come to bite them in the ass...its about how they play not their name.
I agree with this.

[K Xerxes]

Definitely passive towards defeat. In game 5 in the first quarter he goes off for his best quarter in the playoffs, then it's almost like he backs off and is like "Okay teammates, help me, I did my part."

His natural inclination when his team mates are sucking is to try and get them going. Obviously they continued to suck and his passiveness contributed somewhat to the losses, but it is worth mentioning that the Spurs once again played masterful defense against his drives and forced to take tough contested shots, which LeBron is usually very reluctant in taking. To his credit he made a lot of them, but he's never once chucked for an entire game, and I don't think he ever will.

Lebron deserves blame for his defense (as do the entire Heat), but the Spurs were simply the much better team. I think one telling stat is that when Lebron went on his game 4 outburst for 21 points in the 3rd quarter, the Spurs still extended their lead. Something is very wrong with that.

[Xoush]

I agree, but at least he should have gone down swinging.

[STATUTORY]

sitting with 6 mins left in the game is inexcusable tho

[Solefade]

Lebron deserves blame for his defense (as do the entire Heat), but the Spurs were simply the much better team. I think one telling stat is that when Lebron went on his game 4 outburst for 21 points in the 3rd quarter, the Spurs still extended their lead. Something is very wrong with that.


yeah because the rest of the team scored 2 pts :oldlol: the telling thing is that the heat are old and out of gas..simply just garbage

[Mr.Kite]

I blame him

You dont get yourself out of the game with 7 minutes left down 14-17 points.

[Hey Yo]

There was 6:30 left in the 4th and down 18 when James went to the bench.

The way SA was playing, no chance of a comeback.

[Derka]

Looked like he just did standard Lebron stuff out there, which is obviously better than just about anyone else in the NBA could do. But when your teammates are flagging, and you're getting beat that badly...at some point the great ones take it upon themselves to punch back. He may not make every shot and you may not even get stops on the other end, but you at least show the other guys that you won't take a beating like that lying down. Force your will on the other team, win or lose.

Lebron just isn't that guy. He's perfectly content to sit out the last 7 minutes of an 18-point game. And people are willing to excuse him for that, I guess. Whatever. Shifting blame from place to place is just horseshit.

I don't except any of the Celtics for choking a 3-2 series lead away in 2010 against the Lakers. The Lakers were the better team and the Celtics didn't go down swinging the way they should have. They won as a team and they lost as a team. Same applies to the Heat.

[K Xerxes]

There was 6:30 left in the 4th and down 18 when James went to the bench.

The way SA was playing, no chance of a comeback.

Just last year, Heat clawed back a 5 point lead with 30 seconds left. Anything is possible with 12 times that remaining time left. Extremely unlikely of course, but James should have kept playing until about 2 minutes left when it would have been more appropriate to take himself out with the game out of reach. I know he played the whole game, but this was the last stretch of the season... he couldn't man up and play the rest of the game instead of sulking on the bench?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Just last year, Heat clawed back a 5 point lead with 30 seconds left. Anything is possible with 12 times that remaining time left. Extremely unlikely of course, but James should have kept playing until about 2 minutes left when it would have been more appropriate to take himself out with the game out of reach. I know he played the whole game, but this was the last stretch of the season... he couldn't man up and play the rest of the game instead of sulking on the bench?

Key point was last year. Throughout 5 games, this Heat team was unable to overcome any sort of deficit. Last year, they were a much better defensive and three-point shooting team. This year, well we saw the Spurs carve up their defense. I had no hope of a comeback.

All that asides, I still don't understand why all three of them didn't play.

[Hey Yo]

Just last year, Heat clawed back a 5 point lead with 30 seconds left. Anything is possible with 12 times that remaining time left. Extremely unlikely of course, but James should have kept playing until about 2 minutes left when it would have been more appropriate to take himself out with the game out of reach. I know he played the whole game, but this was the last stretch of the season... he couldn't man up and play the rest of the game instead of sulking on the bench?
I understand where you're coming from. It was kind of early to leave the game. Just seemed that SA couldn't miss. If he stays in until there's 3mins left and gets a couple more layups.... then he gets accused of padding his stats in garbage time.

[Just2McFly]

Looked like he just did standard Lebron stuff out there, which is obviously better than just about anyone else in the NBA could do. But when your teammates are flagging, and you're getting beat that badly...at some point the great ones take it upon themselves to punch back. He may not make every shot and you may not even get stops on the other end, but you at least show the other guys that you won't take a beating like that lying down. Force your will on the other team, win or lose.

Lebron just isn't that guy. He's perfectly content to sit out the last 7 minutes of an 18-point game. And people are willing to excuse him for that, I guess. Whatever. Shifting blame from place to place is just horseshit.

I don't except any of the Celtics for choking a 3-2 series lead away in 2010 against the Lakers. The Lakers were the better team and the Celtics didn't go down swinging the way they should have. They won as a team and they lost as a team. Same applies to the Heat.
Every great player has conceded at least once, stop this tired diatribe already.

there was nothing the man could have done. point blank.

he played every second up to that point and tried his best.

[Derka]

Every great player has conceded at least once, stop this tired diatribe already.

there was nothing the man could have done. point blank.

he played every second up to that point and tried his best.

Respectfully, I disagree.

[SpecialQue]

You're a lebron Stan so of course you don't blame him.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not. Have you seen any of my posts lately?

[Replay32]

The Spurs set a NBA finals record for shooting efficiency in a lot of categories. Give the Spurs credit. Basketball is a team game and the Spurs were clearly the superior team. They were on another level.

The Heat's point guards struggled big time. Last night Ray Allen and Wade were terrible in that 2nd quarter. Cost the heat the lead. Allen couldn't hit a shot and Wade didn't do anything right for the last 2 games of the series. The heat's game plan wasn't good and players didn't execute or match San Antonio's effort/energy.

Spo's lineups didn't do the team any favors either. He had Bosh on the perimeter guarding Diaw and Haslem on Duncan. :facepalm If Spo didn't have bosh guarding Diaw, he had wade on him. Diaw just proceeded to post wade up and abuse him where Miami had to send help. :facepalm Spo was outcoached in a major way.

Lebron was the best player for the Heat during finals though. He carried the Heat all season and couldn't sustain a consistent level of energy. Wade's effort on defense was just terrible. There's no excuse because he was on a "maintenance" program and didn't play back to backs pretty much all year. He usually has spurts were he's flying around and is everywhere. I didn't see that at all during the finals. He didn't have a block the whole series. That's telling because he's one of the greatest shot blockers at his position of all time.

The Heat just got spanked you can point blame to everyone from the players to the coaches. It's not on one guy. IMO, the team just ran out of gas combined with the spurs just playing/shooting at a historic level.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I agree, somewhat. He didnt took the extra step all time greats should. and was passive towards defeat. But Wade was turrible. Bran fans were calling (nash and howards lakers version) elite hofers, it has come to bite them in the ass...its about how they play not their name.
You say the same crap about Ray Allen