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Adam Silver
06-16-2014, 06:05 PM
I am considering this. The only issue is how it impacts history, but otherwise makes more sense.

Obviously, Tim Duncan would have won it this year.

Duncan - 16.3ppg, 9.1rpg, 1.9ast, 0.3stl, 1.3blk 52.3fg%
Leonard - 14.3ppg, 6.7rpg, 1.7ast, 1.7stl, 0.7blk 51.0fg%

livinglegend
06-16-2014, 06:06 PM
yes

zoom17
06-16-2014, 06:06 PM
No

ArbitraryWater
06-16-2014, 06:07 PM
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257125i6B387EEECF42AAAF/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

And no, if you believe Duncan was the post-season's best player, you're wrong... LeBron would have won it.

navy
06-16-2014, 06:09 PM
Probably only affects Spurs championships to be honest.

Artillery
06-16-2014, 06:09 PM
Yes. It would prevent players like Cedric Maxwell and Tony Parker from winning it.

navy
06-16-2014, 06:09 PM
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257125i6B387EEECF42AAAF/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

And no, if you believe Duncan was the post-season's best player, you're wrong... LeBron would have won it.
He meant the winner of the championship team...

Black and White
06-16-2014, 06:10 PM
No, its fine the way it is.

BoutPractice
06-16-2014, 06:11 PM
If it ain't broke...

Big#50
06-16-2014, 06:34 PM
Yup. Should have been done from day one.

6 for 24
06-16-2014, 06:52 PM
Commissioner Silver:

Could you possibly eliminate all of the arbitrary awards and simply have a single PER (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324201)™ winner each year? This is a proven, unbiased formula that always tells us who the best player is. The math simply doesn't lie.

I even have a statue designed for this:
http://i57.tinypic.com/28qsr9x.jpg

Make it happen!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

Rocketswin2013
06-16-2014, 06:53 PM
Commissioner Silver:

Could you possibly eliminate all of the arbitrary awards and simply have a single PER (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324201)™ winner each year? This is a proven, unbiased formula that always tells us who the best player is. The math simply doesn't lie.

I even have a statue designed for this:
http://i57.tinypic.com/28qsr9x.jpg

Make it happen!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye
GOAT

Magic 32
06-16-2014, 07:49 PM
[QUOTE=6 for 24]Commissioner Silver:

Could you possibly eliminate all of the arbitrary awards and simply have a single PER (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324201)

Adam Silver
06-16-2014, 08:13 PM
[QUOTE=6 for 24]Commissioner Silver:

Could you possibly eliminate all of the arbitrary awards and simply have a single PER (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324201)

6 for 24
06-16-2014, 08:25 PM
As nice as that would be, I haven't had enough pressure to create such an award.

That's a shame, because it seems like half the bickering on ISH is over a solved problem.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2chmc8x.jpg

Think of all the time we'd save if we could merely "point to the PER" to determine the best players! Mr. Silver, I implore you: embrace this new era of statistical performance metrics or risk being left in the dark ages. I'm sure the "new school" owners will support you. I have already reached out to Mark Cuban on the Twitter so I expect a response shortly.

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

Living Being
06-16-2014, 08:27 PM
Yep, should be Playoffs MVP, but there should be a requirement that you have to win the Finals, too.

russwest0
06-16-2014, 08:29 PM
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257125i6B387EEECF42AAAF/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

And no, if you believe Duncan was the post-season's best player, you're wrong... LeBron would have won it.

lol @ lebron winning it for destroying bad teams but getting destroyed by a good team.

he means the best player in the playoffs from the championship team.

SOD 21
06-16-2014, 10:13 PM
What a brilliant idea to let the player efficiency rating determine the greatest player in the league. That way Yao Ming is greater than the Bill Russell, Chris Paul greater than both Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson, and Chris Bosh is greater than Kevin McHale.

I love stat geeks that want to take watching and evaluating players completely out of the equation because they lack the ability to properly critique a player's game themselves.

PER is one metric among many ways to determine a player's greatness and effectiveness. But please don't think it is the end-all or be-all.

houston
06-16-2014, 11:05 PM
No it finals mvp for a reason. Playoff MVP is stupid.

Rubio2Gasol
06-16-2014, 11:05 PM
I think they can have both.

But I think the most coveted award in this era would definitely be a Hollinger MVP.

AintNoSunshine
06-16-2014, 11:08 PM
Yes, but I would suggest only making the players on the championship team eligible, because you don't want a first round fodder flying in and be presented the award among another team's championship celebration, that's be hilariously awkward

Rubio2Gasol
06-16-2014, 11:11 PM
Yes, but I would suggest only making the players on the championship team eligible, because you don't want a first round fodder flying in and be presented the award among another team's championship celebration, that's be hilariously awkward

I think All Four Conference Finals teams should be eligible.

Either Lebron or Westbrook could have gotten it this year.

6 for 24
06-17-2014, 01:33 AM
What a brilliant idea to let the player efficiency rating determine the greatest player in the league. That way Yao Ming is greater than the Bill Russell, Chris Paul greater than both Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson, and Chris Bosh is greater than Kevin McHale.

None of those players are PER champions, my friend.

6 for 24
06-17-2014, 01:34 AM
That's a shame, because it seems like half the bickering on ISH is over a solved problem.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2chmc8x.jpg

Think of all the time we'd save if we could merely "point to the PER" to determine the best players! Mr. Silver, I implore you: embrace this new era of statistical performance metrics or risk being left in the dark ages. I'm sure the "new school" owners will support you. I have already reached out to Mark Cuban on the Twitter so I expect a response shortly.

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

Good news! Mark Cuban has expressed interest in my research! The wheels are in motion!

miggyme1
06-17-2014, 01:47 AM
maybe im slow but if u change it to playoff mvp wouldnt that mean any player can win it that made it to the playoffs??? what if kevin durant gets eliminated in the first round but he put up 40ppg 7 apg and 8 rpg????:confusedshrug:

cltcfn2924
06-17-2014, 03:15 AM
Yes. It would prevent players like Cedric Maxwell and Tony Parker from winning it.


So you're saying the years these guys won it their team could have done without them? It's an impact award, there are plenty of numbers awards out there already. Like it or not the Spurs rode Leonards' back for the last three games of this series, 2 blowouts on the road. Statistics are nice, winning is what you play the game for.

Adam Silver
06-17-2014, 03:21 AM
That's a shame, because it seems like half the bickering on ISH is over a solved problem.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2chmc8x.jpg

Think of all the time we'd save if we could merely "point to the PER" to determine the best players! Mr. Silver, I implore you: embrace this new era of statistical performance metrics or risk being left in the dark ages. I'm sure the "new school" owners will support you. I have already reached out to Mark Cuban on the Twitter so I expect a response shortly.

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

You think I want to end the bickering? Debate creates interest, and interest creates money.

Adam Silver
06-17-2014, 03:22 AM
No it finals mvp for a reason. Playoff MVP is stupid.

Please explain further. I am interested in your opinion.

Magic731
06-17-2014, 03:22 AM
What a brilliant idea to let the player efficiency rating determine the greatest player in the league. That way Yao Ming is greater than the Bill Russell, Chris Paul greater than both Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson, and Chris Bosh is greater than Kevin McHale.

I love stat geeks that want to take watching and evaluating players completely out of the equation because they lack the ability to properly critique a player's game themselves.

PER is one metric among many ways to determine a player's greatness and effectiveness. But please don't think it is the end-all or be-all.
Lol.

SillyRabbit
06-17-2014, 04:03 AM
Should be playoff MVP just like the NHL does.

Always goes to a player on the winning team unless a guy on the losing team had an unbelievable performance and lost in 6 or 7.