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Black and White
06-16-2014, 07:21 PM
The consensus here is that he is some overpaid scrub that jacks up threes, I feel like he is criminally underrated and being a third option has changed peoples opinions of him a hell of a lot, I think he needs to move to a squad as a 2nd option and we will see that he is still an all-star level player.

What do you guys think?

navy
06-16-2014, 07:26 PM
He isnt a scrub, but it is tiring arguing with people who barely watch Heat games and are clearly just trying to prop up Bosh to diminish Lebron.

He is properly rated. A good player. Not a superstar. There are a few Lebron stan who underrate him and some haters who over rate him.

Personally, I want him back. Even if it was at the current salary. I would prefer a paycut though, and a long term deal until retirement.

Bandito
06-16-2014, 07:27 PM
He isnt a scrub, but it is tiring arguing with people who barely watch Heat games and are clearly just trying to prop up Bosh to diminish Lebron.

He is properly rated, there are a few Lebron stan who underrate him and some haters who over rate him.
And what about vice versa? You retarded stan do the same with Bosh to prop up Lebron.

navy
06-16-2014, 07:29 PM
And what about vice versa? You retarded stan do the same with Bosh to prop up Lebron.
Read the last part you quoted before calling someone else retarded. :oldlol:

Idiot.

JT123
06-16-2014, 07:31 PM
I'd have to go with 2008-2010 Pau Gasol as most underrated. Listening to the way Kobe stans talk about him you would think Gasol was nothing more than a glorified Birdman during LA's title runs. :oldlol:
Dude averaged 20 ppg on 54 percent shooting in the 2010 playoffs, yet people wanna say say Bosh is better than him? :biggums: :roll:
Bosh isn't underrated, he is what he is, a great 3rd wheel. He can't be the 2nd option on a title team, cause those guys have to be reliable. Anyone who could go scoreless in a game 7 of the Finals is the furthest thing from a reliable option. :no:

SyRyanYang
06-16-2014, 07:32 PM
Stars become irrelevant in a few year when they team up with Lebron.

I remotely remember Larry Hughes was averaging 22/5/5 while lead the league in steals before he joined the Cavs, a couple of years later he's unheard of.

SyRyanYang
06-16-2014, 07:35 PM
I'd have to go with 2008-2010 Pau Gasol as most underrated. Listening to the way Kobe stans talk about him you would think Gasol was nothing more than a glorified Birdman during LA's title runs. :oldlol:
Dude averaged 20 ppg on 54 percent shooting in the 2010 playoffs, yet people wanna say say Bosh is better than him? :biggums: :roll:
Bosh isn't underrated, he is what he is, a great 3rd wheel. He can't be the 2nd option on a title team, cause those guys have to be reliable. Anyone who could go scoreless in a game 7 of the Finals is the furthest thing from a reliable option. :no:

Contrary to Lebron, Kobe made Gasol better.
You need to look up his playoffs stats in his Memphis days.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 07:35 PM
Bosh just needs a defensive C next to him, thats all, he isn't the physical player that you want him to be, hes finesse, you put him next to a proper defensive C and let him roam the mid-range and play face up and he will be fine.

Sitting at the 3-point line isn't how you use him.

dubeta
06-16-2014, 07:48 PM
No, in terms of overall ability he is an all star, but his impact is below his basketball ability since he struggles with rebounding and defense (especially post defense), which is what his team really need from him.

Thats like saying a PG is underrated cause he can block shots and rebound, even though his team really need him to run plays and hit shots

In terms on what he provides for Miami,to what Miami actually need, he is not an all star level performer.

Foster5k
06-16-2014, 07:49 PM
Chris Bosh underrated? :oldlol:

Guy is supposedly part of the so called "Big 3". However, only LeBron showed up to play in the Finals.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 07:52 PM
op just likes to start shit :oldlol: .
just ignore fellas

Black and White
06-16-2014, 07:53 PM
op just likes to start shit :oldlol: .
just ignore fellas

Its a fair point, Bosh doesn't get much credit from you guys, regardless of his numbers, he was giving it his all in this finals series.

Just2McFly
06-16-2014, 07:54 PM
Stars become irrelevant in a few year when they team up with Lebron.

I remotely remember Larry Hughes was averaging 22/5/5 while lead the league in steals before he joined the Cavs, a couple of years later he's unheard of.
this shit is just ban worthy at this point

this forum is ****ing trash

navy
06-16-2014, 07:55 PM
Its a fair point, Bosh doesn't get much credit from you guys, regardless of his numbers, he was giving it his all in this finals series.

:roll:

His all?

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 07:55 PM
Its a fair point, Bosh doesn't get much credit from you guys, regardless of his numbers, he was giving it his all in this finals series.
14/5 while letting Duncan score on nearly every posession?


:facepalm

JT123
06-16-2014, 07:55 PM
Contrary to Lebron, Kobe made Gasol better.
You need to look up his playoffs stats in his Memphis days.
Like in 2011 right? :roll: :roll:
Look up how many playoff games Bosh won in 7 years with the Raptors. Kyle Lowry matched him in this years playoffs alone. :lol

Black and White
06-16-2014, 07:58 PM
:roll:

His all?

Yea, sometimes your shot just doesn't fall, I feel like he took too many threes and the Heat should have given him more possession in the paint, it is what it is.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 07:59 PM
14/5 while letting Duncan score on nearly every posession?


:facepalm

14ppg is decent for a 3rd option.

Are you forgetting Duncan took Serge Ibaka to school??? A guy who is known for his defense.

Legends66NBA7
06-16-2014, 08:00 PM
Like in 2011 right? :roll: :roll:
Look up how many playoff games Bosh won in 7 years with the Raptors. Kyle Lowry matched him in this years playoffs alone. :lol

You would have to give DeRozan and Lowry about equal credit, if not DeRozan more if were just going to pick one. He was statistically more consistent throughout the Nets series.

But yeah, funny enough... Bosh played was bad in 2 of those 3 wins with the Raptors, while DeRozan and Lowry were equally important good/great in the 3 wins this year.

Just2McFly
06-16-2014, 08:00 PM
14ppg is decent for a 3rd option.

Are you forgetting Duncan took Serge Ibaka to school??? A guy who is known for his defense.
Serge Ibaka is known for his blocking capability, dude isn't a great defender.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:00 PM
14ppg is decent for a 3rd option.

Are you forgetting Duncan took Serge Ibaka to school??? A guy who is known for his defense.
what about 5 rebounds?

And Ibaka is not a good post defender man you should know this by now :facepalm

RoundMoundOfReb
06-16-2014, 08:01 PM
More like most overrated. Dude was sort of like the James Harden/Correy Maggette of the PF position.

Legends66NBA7
06-16-2014, 08:03 PM
More like most overrated. Dude was sort of like the James Harden/Correy Maggette of the PF position.

Harden I would agree. Maggette is an insult, though. Bosh is definitely a tier or 2 above Maggette.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:05 PM
Serge Ibaka is known for his blocking capability, dude isn't a great defender.

He would be known as a better defender than Bosh, plus he is more athletic, lets be honest, anyone defending Duncan single coverage was going to struggle, hes a beast

Kingwillball
06-16-2014, 08:05 PM
If Bosh was Underrated He would of Averaged 20 and 10 in finals.. He is a good player not a superstar a good #3 guy ideally on a contender.

RoundMoundOfReb
06-16-2014, 08:05 PM
Harden I would agree. Maggette is an insult, though. Bosh is definitely a tier or 2 above Maggette.
He's better than Maggette worse than Harden. I was just talking about guys who thrive in the regular season by getting a lot more touch fouls than they deserve and then the playoffs come around and they strugglr.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:06 PM
what about 5 rebounds?

And Ibaka is not a good post defender man you should know this by now :facepalm

Read post above in regards to Duncan ^^^

Also if you are camping at the 3-point line, how many offensive boards can you grab? Not forgiving him though, hes just not that type of player.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:07 PM
Read post above in regards to Duncan ^^^

Also if you are camping at the 3-point line, how many offensive boards can you grab? Not forgiving him though, hes just not that type of player.
i didnt know you camp at the 3 point line on defense :facepalm


he should be average 8+ on the defensive end alone

ballup
06-16-2014, 08:08 PM
Even more underrated than Ray Ray on the Celtics.


Ow. That really hurt me hard. :*(

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:09 PM
i didnt know you camp at the 3 point line on defense :facepalm


he should be average 8+ on the defensive end alone

I said I'm not forgiving him for the rebounding aspect, but the lack of offensive rebounds would have contributed to that stat.

ottooooooo
06-16-2014, 08:11 PM
hes an awkward and lacksadaisical player

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:12 PM
I said I'm not forgiving him for the rebounding aspect, but the lack of offensive rebounds would have contributed to that stat.
you act like hes camping on the 3 point line every possession tho

Hes usually only waiting there during specific plays or Lebron iso

veilside23
06-16-2014, 08:14 PM
a year ago people said that without CB4 for they would have not defender Duncan well. and cb4 was the goat defender for the heat last year in the finals .. and now people say LeBron still didn't get enough help ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejyvF_Bt-C4

people seem to forget how good he was

dude is a 4 time all star and a legit before he joined LeBron

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:15 PM
a year ago people said that without CB4 for they would have not defender Duncan well. and cb4 was the goat defender for the heat last year in the finals .. and now people say LeBron still didn't get enough help ...
who said that? the haters?

other than that one offensive rebound for ray allen 3 he was getting raped inside

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:16 PM
you act like hes camping on the 3 point line every possession tho

Hes usually only waiting there during specific plays or Lebron iso

As I said, rebouding isn't his strongest aspect, but he had a bad series in that aspect, regardless I feel like you guys have forced him out of position, Bosh is a face up player, needs more touches there

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:19 PM
As I said, rebouding isn't his strongest aspect, but he had a bad series in that aspect, regardless I feel like you guys have forced him out of position, Bosh is a face up player, needs more touches there
again, it has to do with the defense we face. Bosh is better from the outside against big dudes like Duncan and Splitter.

Im sure if we faced a smaller team like the Thunder he would go inside more.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:22 PM
again, it has to do with the defense we face. Bosh is better from the outside against big dudes like Duncan and Splitter.

Im sure if we faced a smaller team like the Thunder he would go inside more.

Dunno, it seems to becoming the norm for him, it would be a problem if he got comfortable standing out there, you guys have to go out and get a proper defensive big man, turn Bosh into the 2nd option and just watch him get better.

veilside23
06-16-2014, 08:23 PM
since they hate bosh a lot I think they can let him walk and get a paycheck and join the hornets . CB4 for the 9th pick and mcbob.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:25 PM
Dunno, it seems to becoming the norm for him, it would be a problem if he got comfortable standing out there, you guys have to go out and get a proper defensive big man, turn Bosh into the 2nd option and just watch him get better.
we needd Asik or Chandler definitely

Living Being
06-16-2014, 08:25 PM
Bosh is okay, but he does suck.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:26 PM
since they hate bosh a lot I think they can let him walk and get a paycheck and join the hornets . CB4 for the 9th pick and mcbob.
YES WOULD DO IN A HEARTBEAT.

Zach Lavine is supposed to somewhere around 9

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:28 PM
we needd Asik or Chandler definitely

Let Wade walk and that becomes a possibility.

Honestly,

PG (young 3&D type)/Cole
Ray/Jones/Young SG
LeBron/Beasley
Bosh/UD
Asik/Birdman

is enough to win a title.

Rubio2Gasol
06-16-2014, 08:28 PM
There was a defensive possession late in the game yesterday where he sprinted down the court. For my money, he's still one of the top 5 fastest big men down the court in the league.

He had the better of any matchup in the front court, all they had to do was quick weakside entry pass over Parker on the right hand side about 10 times a game and Bosh would have 20 odd points. Rebounds wise he could do better, but his role on offense makes absolutely zero sense.

Lebron is literally the only guy in the league that would turn this dude into a 3 point shooter.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:29 PM
Let Wade walk and that becomes a possibility.

Honestly,

PG (young 3&D type)/Cole
Ray/Jones/Young SG
LeBron/Beasley
Bosh/UD
Asik/Birdman

is enough to win a title.
lol no wade not going anywhere. they would never do that


If bosh and Wade opt out maybe we can afford Asik and Collison

veilside23
06-16-2014, 08:30 PM
YES WOULD DO IN A HEARTBEAT.

Zach Lavine is supposed to somewhere around 9

LoL as if lavine would save the franchise you think this is enough ?

chalmers/cole
wade/lavine
LeBron/ jones
mcbob/haslem
Anderson/oden

you are a funny kid

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:31 PM
LoL as if lavine would save the franchise you think this is enough ?

chalmers/cole
wade/lavine
LeBron/ jones
mcbob/haslem
Anderson/oden

you are a funny kid
Lavine is point guard and we can sign Melo

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:31 PM
lol no wade not going anywhere. they would never do that


If bosh and Wade opt out maybe we can afford Asik and Collison

Collison would be the type of player that I was thinking, if Wade comes back I would seriously consider him running the second unit, it would be way better for the flow.

veilside23
06-16-2014, 08:33 PM
Lavine is point guard and we can sign Melo


great then melo would be a 15ppg kinda player and you guys will say that melo suck ... oh the irony

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 08:34 PM
great then melo would be a 15ppg kinda player and you guys will say that melo suck ... oh the irony
Nig*a is you saying Melo would be the same as Bosh?

Bruh u crazy fam. Melo would play the 3 and Bron at the 4. We would then need asik

veilside23
06-16-2014, 08:35 PM
Nig*a is you saying Melo would be the same as Bosh?

Bruh u crazy fam. Melo would play the 3 and Bron at the 4. We would then need asik


get chris paul too :bowdown:

Lebronxrings
06-16-2014, 08:35 PM
the worst 3rd option on a championship ever. Terrible at defense, soft af, and can only shoot.

Rubio2Gasol
06-16-2014, 08:36 PM
the worst 3rd option on a championship ever. Terrible at defense, soft af, and can only shoot.
:lol

Black and White
06-16-2014, 08:37 PM
the worst 3rd option on a championship ever. Terrible at defense, soft af, and can only shoot.
:biggums:

plowking
06-16-2014, 09:21 PM
The consensus here is that he is some overpaid scrub that jacks up threes, I feel like he is criminally underrated and being a third option has changed peoples opinions of him a hell of a lot, I think he needs to move to a squad as a 2nd option and we will see that he is still an all-star level player.

What do you guys think?

This is exactly why the OP is a big time f*ckwit.

Makes a baseless claim that every Miami fan thinks he is an overpaid scrub, then argues his own posts.

Absolute idiot. Should ban people for posts like this.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 09:32 PM
This is exactly why the OP is a big time f*ckwit.

Makes a baseless claim that every Miami fan thinks he is an overpaid scrub, then argues his own posts.

Absolute idiot. Should ban people for posts like this.
agreed.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 09:42 PM
This is exactly why the OP is a big time f*ckwit.

Makes a baseless claim that every Miami fan thinks he is an overpaid scrub, then argues his own posts.

Absolute idiot. Should ban people for posts like this.

Whats up Plowbitch???

You trying to tell me that there haven't been Heat fans all season that have been ripping into Chris Bosh? Answer that truthfully, many Heat fans said he isn't an all-star anymore

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 09:51 PM
Whats up Plowbitch???

You trying to tell me that there haven't been Heat fans all season that have been ripping into Chris Bosh? Answer that truthfully, many Heat fans said he isn't an all-star anymore
did he have an all star impact/numbers?

Thats like saying Jeremy Lin should be an all star since he put up great numbers on a team by himself. But when he joined superior players his production dropped.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 09:54 PM
did he have an all star impact/numbers?

Thats like saying Jeremy Lin should be an all star since he put up great numbers on a team by himself. But when he joined superior players his production dropped.

How can a player have all-star impact next to D Wade and LeBron James, who are incredibly ball-dominant??

Anyway, as me and you agreed upon before, once Bosh becomes a 2nd option, he will be much better

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 09:56 PM
How can a player have all-star impact next to D Wade and LeBron James, who are incredibly ball-dominant??

Anyway, as me and you agreed upon before, once Bosh becomes a 2nd option, he will be much better


Exactly, so he is not an all star player. If he put up all star numbers he should be an all star player.

Black and White
06-16-2014, 09:58 PM
Exactly, so he is not an all star player. If he put up all star numbers he should be an all star player.

Hes an all-star calibre player, thats not debateable, hes just held back by the Miami Heat offense, its quite sad to see that hes been forced out of his natural position.

dubeta
06-16-2014, 09:59 PM
LOL everyone overrates LeBrons support before they leave and join your team

Remember how Laker fans were praising Mike Brown before he went to L.A?

Where was All-Star Moe Williams once LeBron left?

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 10:00 PM
Hes an all-star calibre player, thats not debateable, hes just held back by the Miami Heat offense, its quite sad to see that hes been forced out of his natural position.
but hes not putting up all star numbers, therefore he is not a an all star player.

this is not a ****ing strategy game like starcraft where u can just stack soldiers on top of each other and expect production. Bosh is not a great fit with Miami and everyone knows it

plowking
06-16-2014, 10:00 PM
Whats up Plowbitch???

You trying to tell me that there haven't been Heat fans all season that have been ripping into Chris Bosh? Answer that truthfully, many Heat fans said he isn't an all-star anymore

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Black and White
06-16-2014, 10:02 PM
but hes not putting up all star numbers, therefore he is not a an all star player.

this is not a ****ing strategy game like starcraft where u can just stack soldiers on top of each other and expect production. Bosh is not a great fit with Miami and everyone knows it

Isn't that my whole point???

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 10:03 PM
Isn't that my whole point???
yes, therefore he is not an all star player.

Maybe one day on his own team he can be one again, but right now the only all star on the heat at the moment is Lebron

Black and White
06-16-2014, 10:05 PM
yes, therefore he is not an all star player.

Maybe one day on his own team he can be one again, but right now the only all star on the heat at the moment is Lebron

He was an all-star this year.......

But anyway, point being, the LeBron/Wade offense is not made for a player like Bosh, therefore his impact is limited.

Cocaine80s
06-16-2014, 10:06 PM
He was an all-star this year.......

But anyway, point being, the LeBron/Wade offense is not made for a player like Bosh, therefore his impact is limited.
The only reason hes an all star is because hes part of the "big 3"

16/6 is ****ing pathetic :roll:

Black and White
06-16-2014, 10:10 PM
The only reason hes an all star is because hes part of the "big 3"

16/6 is ****ing pathetic :roll:

Aside from the rebounding numbers, in terms of ppg, what else do you expect from a 3rd option?