Keeping Miami's Big3 together...

[r15mohd]

the salary cap is projected to be $64 mil with the luxury tax at $77 mil. this years payroll for Miami was $74 mil and just looking into restructuring with viable contracts of available FA and for noteworthy players (Lebron, Bosh, Wade, Crawford), Miami can put together a really good team with almost the identical salary expense but greater talent IMO. the numbers look feasible, and I based them on they're last years pay to a degree.

SF/PF Lebron $18,000,000.00
PF/C Bosh $15,000,000.00
SG Wade $12,000,000.00
PF Haslem $4,500,000.00
PG Cole $2,000,000.00
SG J.Crawford $5,500,000.00
C Dalembert $3,000,000.00
C Steimsma $1,750,000.00
PF Gooden $1,000,000.00
SF Beasley $1,000,000.00
PG Blake $2,500,000.00
SF R.Butler $1,250,000.00
SF/SG J.Jones $1,500,000.00
SG Ray Allen $2,000,000.00
C C.Andersen $2,000,000.00
TOTAL $73,000,000.00

V. Carter @ $1,500,000.00 if Dalembert or Anderson doesnt sign.


how good is this squad?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

too old

[Rocketswin2013]

lol defense.


And Wade is not opting out man. If he does I will leave forever.

[r15mohd]

lol defense.


And Wade is not opting out man. If he does I will leave forever.


agree with you on defense being a low point...but how much worse is it compared to the 2013-14 team? at least you gain some paint presence and a better bench to help an ailing Wade, at times

Wade opting out will either break or make the Miami Heat...he really has no option at this point. if he wants to be selfish, he can opt-in and cause the team to not be full contention for the Finals again by losing out on players, one being Lebron leaving Miami. if he opts out, he still gets a sizeable contract and is on a team for more Finals appearance. the latter betters his stance...not to mention he has a pretty HUGE sneaker deal with LiNing to compensate at $10 mil a year, plus added equity in the company throughout the 10yr deal. he'll be ok.

[Levity]

What's the point of keeping the big 3 together, especially if you plan on paying one of them 15 mil a season to play out of his comfort zone/ efficiency spots

Might as well sign a LEGIT stretch 4 in the league (cause lord knows that were drowning in them) and a legit shot blocker/rebounder to round out the starting 5. Teams have scouts for this very reason.

[NumberSix]

Melo

[r15mohd]

What's the point of keeping the big 3 together, especially if you plan on paying one of them 15 mil a season to play out of his comfort zone/ efficiency spots

Might as well sign a LEGIT stretch 4 in the league (cause lord knows that were drowning in them) and a legit shot blocker/rebounder to round out the starting 5. Teams have scouts for this very reason.

I agree with you on better stretch 4, actually rather Bosh stay and Wade go but that's a personal preference since 2011 of mine)...but the "family" cohesiveness in which Riley preaches disallows it. only way they break the Big3 is if Wade doesn't want to opt-out, and Lebron and Bosh (mainly Lebron) decides to leave town.

[r15mohd]

Melo

rather not...unless he's replacing Wade and not added to the squad alongside them

[Derka]

Crawford has two more seasons on his deal with LA.

If you're talking Jordan Crawford, $5 million a year for him is full-blown insane.

Also, if the idea is to WIN the Finals...that's not the team that's going to do it.

[gts]

The big three will opt in, at least Bosh and Wade will.. I think Lebon will also but you never know with that guy... I don't think there's a chance Melo lands there... Not only would it take the big 3 to opt out but for the Heat to waive their bird rights which also puts the big three in a lower income bracket

btw Wade Lebron and Bosh are all set to make nearly 21 million next year

[fragokota]

Me thinks mia should go for a defence first starting pg next year(don;t know if there are any) along with a good defensive starting center.

[Derka]

The big three will opt in, at least Bosh and Wade will.. I think Lebon will also but you never know with that guy... I don't think there's a chance Melo lands there... Not only would it take the big 3 to opt out but for the Heat to waive their bird rights which also puts the big three in a lower income bracket

btw Wade Lebron and Bosh are all set to make nearly 21 million next year

On top of this, this will become the norm for superstars and set a horrific precedent. Teams will stand on the negotiating stance of "Hey, we need two or three of you to win titles in this league, and with the cap we can't afford to pay you all max. If you want to win, you HAVE to take less money."

At that point, all the other guys a team has to pay ALSO have to take proportionally less because the stars are the ones who carry the load.

[Inactive]

how good is this squad?I don't think it's really better than their 2014 team. I wouldn't play Dalembert or Stiemsma much. I don't think either Jamal, or Jordan Crawford would help them. They're worse at PG. And they're even older.

[Levity]

Me thinks mia should go for a defence first starting pg next year(don;t know if there are any) along with a good defensive starting center.

hes more of a 2, than a 1, but avery bradley could be a defensive PG for the heat given the fact that they dont rely on their PG to initiate offense. and for any team that wants a defensive big, id go hard after kyle oquinn from the magic. theyre pretty stacked with bigs that need minutes, and may even draft another one. so the possibility of working out a trade, is there.

[KevinDurant35]

2/5

[LBJ 23]

Melo


Can't understand how Heat fan wants Melo, really can't....

[Derka]

Can't understand how Heat fan wants Melo, really can't....

That's not a Heat fan you're replying to.

[navy]

Can't understand how Heat fan wants Melo, really can't....
Why not? Stars hide flaws in teams. Melo is a constant threat.

[fragokota]

hes more of a 2, than a 1, but avery bradley could be a defensive PG for the heat given the fact that they dont rely on their PG to initiate offense. and for any team that wants a defensive big, id go hard after kyle oquinn from the magic. theyre pretty stacked with bigs that need minutes, and may even draft another one. so the possibility of working out a trade, is there.

Assuming the heat will keep thier core three players and they will reach the finals again the next year, they have pretty high chances of facing either SAS or OKC.I would want a good defending/pass first starting pg (along with Norris Cole) so that they can "effectively" defend parker/westbrook while keeping lebron on KD or Kawhi.

Also as lebron gets older i don;t think it's wise to have him curry the ball all the time since he will be getting fatigued easier and easier.He must transition even more in my opinion to post game(strangely enough we didn;t see him do that agaisnt the sas).

Lastly it became obvious this year that they can't rely on playing small game as teams like the sas will exploit their weakness defending the paint.Maybe it's time for them to slow their pace down and change the way they play.

[LBJ 23]

That's not a Heat fan you're replying to.


Even if he's a Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen/Douglas fan only it still makes no sense. Why bring in a guy who will eat a ton of money, defense will most likely not improve it can actually get even worse, they still won't get a decent/average defender/rebounder/hustler under the rim which they desperately need....

That offense which would Melo bring in certainly doesn't outweigh what I pointed out above.

[r15mohd]

Crawford has two more seasons on his deal with LA.

If you're talking Jordan Crawford, $5 million a year for him is full-blown insane.

Also, if the idea is to WIN the Finals...that's not the team that's going to do it.


hoopsrumor has him (Jamal) listed as a FA...definitely out the pic as he's on for 2 more years.

any chance Parsons signs for $5-6 mil/yr?
Mike Miller again? :confusedshrug:
if CLE doesnt guarantee Gee's contract, he's available
Shaun Livingstion is a point-forward to take a chance on
Danny Granger?
Evan Turner wanting high pay again?
Hedo Turkoglu can be had for cheap
chance a young Marshon Brooks?

[Droid101]

Hahahahah you think Wade is going to opt out hahhaha

[Carter_17]

the salary cap is projected to be $64 mil with the luxury tax at $77 mil. this years payroll for Miami was $74 mil and just looking into restructuring with viable contracts of available FA and for noteworthy players (Lebron, Bosh, Wade, Crawford), Miami can put together a really good team with almost the identical salary expense but greater talent IMO. the numbers look feasible, and I based them on they're last years pay to a degree.

SF/PF Lebron $18,000,000.00
PF/C Bosh $15,000,000.00
SG Wade $12,000,000.00
PF Haslem $4,500,000.00
PG Cole $2,000,000.00
SG J.Crawford $5,500,000.00 (You can get Nate robinson for half the money to do exactly the same job )
C Dalembert $3,000,000.00
C Steimsma $1,750,000.00
PF Gooden $1,000,000.00 (You gonna need more money for him)
SF Beasley $1,000,000.00
PG Blake $2,500,000.00 (He is too slow for Heat and not that great of a shooter. Farmar would be better )
SF R.Butler $1,250,000.00
SF/SG J.Jones $1,500,000.00
SG Ray Allen $2,000,000.00 (will Retire)
C C.Andersen $2,000,000.00
TOTAL $73,000,000.00

V. Carter @ $1,500,000.00 if Dalembert or Anderson doesnt sign.


how good is this squad?

Bolds

[Dresta]

Hahahahah you think Wade is going to opt out hahhaha
Why wouldn't he exactly? He can restructure his deal for more money overall. It's not like he's gonna be signing another big contract after this one.

[Sarcastic]

Those are some major pay cuts that you are asking those guys to take, when they are still in the prime of their career and should be maximizing income rather than giving it back.

[Solefade]

please get kyle lowry to miami

[boozehound]

under the scenario in this thread, he is giving up 41/2years for 48/4 years. Not exactly a better long-term deal. now, if its 60/4 then I could see him doing that.

But a bird in hand......

[Graviton]

Honestly Wade is done, they should let him go if he doesn't take a huge paycut. He literally brings nothing to the team. He has no jumper, no explosion left to drive or play defense, can't even playmake without turning the ball over every other possession.

I know he brought a ring to Miami as the man but can't let him destroy the cap space like Kobe. Business first, cut out the cancer before it destroys you. He rested and took vacations during regular season while Lebron carried the whole load. And still ended up performing worse than in 2013 playoffs somehow. He is nothing but a burden right now.

[guy]

Question, if Wade just decided to retire and the Heat still decided to pay him his remaining 2 years just as a nice gesture (the Bulls did this for Jordan during his first retirement and the Lakers did the same thing for Magic) would that count against the cap and tax?

[Solefade]

Honestly Wade is done, they should let him go if he doesn't take a huge paycut. He literally brings nothing to the team. He has no jumper, no explosion left to drive or play defense, can't even playmake without turning the ball over every other possession.

I know he brought a ring to Miami as the man but can't let him destroy the cap space like Kobe. Business first, cut out the cancer before it destroys you. He rested and took vacations during regular season while Lebron carried the whole load. And still ended up performing worse than in 2013 playoffs somehow. He is nothing but a burden right now.


miami isn't the type of organization to just cut out players like that..what they should do is convince wade to take a huge pay cut now and they'll take care him after he retires like zo and tim

[Graviton]

miami isn't the type of organization to just cut out players like that..what they should do is convince wade to take a huge pay cut now and they'll take care him after he retires like zo and tim
Yea I am sure Wade's ego can handle that. No ****ing way is he taking a big pay cut. :oldlol:

[Solefade]

Yea I am sure Wade's ego can handle that. No ****ing way is he taking a big pay cut. :oldlol:


i would think d.wade would be way more self aware...i guess it really depends if he wants money or chance at more rings