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dubeta
06-17-2014, 02:47 PM
Jordan - 6
Duncan - 3
Shaq -3
Magic - 3
LeBron - 2
Kobe - 2
Olajuwon- 2
Bird- 2
Kareem -2
Russell (wasnt around that time so cant be ranked)
Wilt- 1

You shouldnt get any credit for going on along the ride with a stacked team and great organisation. Leading a team to a championship is much more impressive.

Why is Jordan the GOAT imo? Because of his huge FMVP lead over other guys (especially Kareem)

Rose'sACL
06-17-2014, 02:48 PM
Shut up.

r15mohd
06-17-2014, 02:52 PM
Jordan - 6
Duncan - 3
Shaq -3
Magic - 3
LeBron - 2
Kobe - 2
Olajuwon- 2
Bird- 2
Kareem -2
Russell (wasnt around that time so cant be ranked)
Wilt- 1

You shouldnt get any credit for going on along the ride with a stacked team and great organisation. Leading a team to a championship is much more impressive.

Why is Jordan the GOAT imo? Because of his huge FMVP lead over other guys (especially Kareem)

yes and no...it matters the most, but the other accolades are needed for objectivity as well as accounting for abysmal failures, too.

if we left it as just FMVPs, we are saying Pierce and TP are just as good/impactful as Wilt...definitely need MOAR!!! :D

riseagainst
06-17-2014, 02:53 PM
OP is a fakkit.

fpliii
06-17-2014, 02:53 PM
yes and no...it matters the most, but the other accolades are needed for objectivity as well as accounting for abysmal failures, too.

if we left it as just FMVPs, we are saying Pierce and TP are just as good/impactful as Wilt...definitely need MOAR!!! :D
Wilt would've won in 67 if the award existed too (started in 69).

But yeah, media awards are bush.

NumberSix
06-17-2014, 02:54 PM
Playing well is all that matters.

Rooster
06-17-2014, 02:54 PM
Jordan - 6
Duncan - 3
Shaq -3
Magic - 3
LeBron - 2
Kobe - 2
Olajuwon- 2
Bird- 2
Kareem -2
Russell (wasnt around that time so cant be ranked)
Wilt- 1

You shouldnt get any credit for going on along the ride with a stacked team and great organisation. Leading a team to a championship is much more impressive.

Why is Jordan the GOAT imo? Because of his huge FMVP lead over other guys (especially Kareem)

So Billups and Kawhi is on the level of Wilt:facepalm

SouBeachTalents
06-17-2014, 02:55 PM
Wilt would've won in 67 if the award existed too (started in 69).

But yeah, media awards are bush.

That's also why, a dude won 11 rings and they didn't even have the award back then. He could have topped Jordan by 2-3 Finals MVP's for all we know

SouBeachTalents
06-17-2014, 02:56 PM
Playing well is all that matters.

This

fpliii
06-17-2014, 02:58 PM
That's also why, a dude won 11 rings and they didn't even have the award back then. He could have topped Jordan by 2-3 Finals MVP's for all we know
ThaRegul8r and a few others broke it down a few months ago and settled on 7. Heinsohn would win in 57, Havlicek in 68 (as well as in 69 if it went to a player on the winning team), Sam Jones in 64.

dubeta
06-17-2014, 03:02 PM
imo top 10 lists should be a combination of FMVP + stats

of course there are some outliers like Wilts overrated stats, but that is a good measure

1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Shaq
6. Duncan
7. LeBron
etc

ArbitraryWater
06-17-2014, 03:04 PM
ThaRegul8r and a few others broke it down a few months ago and settled on 7. Heinsohn would win in 57, Havlicek in 68 (as well as in 69 if it went to a player on the winning team), Sam Jones in 64.

You got a link for those breakdowns?

fpliii
06-17-2014, 03:18 PM
You got a link for those breakdowns?


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235417
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8271842&postcount=47
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305291&page=6
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287734&page=3

I think there is at least one other, can't seem to find it, though.

ArbitraryWater
06-17-2014, 03:22 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235417
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8271842&postcount=47
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305291&page=6
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287734&page=3

I think there is at least one other, can't seem to find it, though.

thanks :applause:

Le Shaqtus
06-17-2014, 03:24 PM
Playing well is all that matters.

Unless you lose, then no one will care.

SouBeachTalents
06-17-2014, 03:28 PM
Unless you lose, then no one will care.

Sad but true

3LiftHeatCurse
06-17-2014, 03:29 PM
Wilt would've won in 67 if the award existed too (started in 69).

But yeah, media awards are bush.

Boiled down.

Duncan = 3
Kobe = 2

fpliii
06-17-2014, 03:33 PM
Boiled down.

Duncan = 3
Kobe = 2
I'm a Lakers fan, not a Kobe stan. Doesn't matter to me. :confusedshrug:

winwin
06-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Playoffs MVP >> Finals MVP

kobe : 7

MJ: 5

Duncan: 4

Lebron: 3

knicksman
06-17-2014, 03:59 PM
imo top 10 lists should be a combination of FMVP + stats

of course there are some outliers like Wilts overrated stats, but that is a good measure

1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Shaq
6. Duncan
7. LeBron
etc

loser/beta mentality for OP. just like his boy lebron only cares about stats and MVPs coz he knows he cant win rings

riseagainst
06-17-2014, 04:02 PM
Playoffs MVP >> Finals MVP

kobe : 7

MJ: 5

Duncan: 4

Lebron: 3

:roll:

dubeta
06-17-2014, 04:54 PM
loser/beta mentality for OP. just like his boy lebron only cares about stats and MVPs coz he knows he cant win rings

doesnt FMVP imply rings fakkit?

beta is being a sidekick for championships by having more sidekick rings than FMVP

Quizno
06-17-2014, 04:56 PM
it's a competitive sport. the only thing that matters is winning

knicksman
06-17-2014, 07:43 PM
doesnt FMVP imply rings fakkit?

beta is being a sidekick for championships by having more sidekick rings than FMVP

yeah coz jery west didint win that award

sportjames23
06-17-2014, 07:49 PM
Shut up.


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