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navy
06-17-2014, 03:15 PM
1) Westbrook
2) Chris Paul
3) Steph Curry
4) Tony Parker
5) Damion Lillard

Rationale: I could see taking Paul over Westbrook if you are looking at pure PG abilities, but Westbrook was just far too dominant to not be number one. Dude was a monster out there.

Chris Paul I got second. Choked Game 5 vs the Thunder, but other than that was out there balling offensively and defensively. Anytime he went to the bench you had to fear the Clippers lifespan.

Steph Curry was only in the first round, abit too three heavy and lacks defense. Number 3. Not much to say

Disappointed in Tony Parker. He had a few good games here and there, but way too often the Spurs were better with him off the floor. Cant defend for shit and his offense his bread and butter took a large step back this post season. Might be the age, injuries, or the system.

Lillard, looked like a scrub vs the Spurs, but was highly impressive vs the Rockets. Rounds out the Top . Better fix that defense.

Jlamb47
06-17-2014, 03:17 PM
1) Westbrook
2) Chris Paul
3) Steph Curry
4) Tony Parker
5) Damion Lillard

Rationale: I could see taking Paul over Westbrook if you are looking at pure PG abilities, but Westbrook was just far too dominant to not be number one. Dude was a monster out there.

Chris Paul I got second. Choked Game 5 vs the Thunder, but other than that was out there balling offensively and defensively. Anytime he went to the bench you had to fear the Clippers lifespan.

Steph Curry was only in the first round, abit too three heavy and lacks defense. Number 3. Not much to say

Disappointed in Tony Parker. He had a few good games here and there, but way too often the Spurs were better with him off the floor. Cant defend for shit and his offense his bread and butter took a large step back this post season. Might be the age, injuries, or the system.

Lillard, looked like a scrub vs the Spurs, but was highly impressive vs the Rockets. Rounds out the Top . Better fix that defense.

I like your list but i might take Wall over Lillard, but not really sure on that

unbreakable
06-17-2014, 03:18 PM
steph is so fukkin overrated.. hes a chucker. thats it. his team is never going anywhere. i dont care if he shoots 90% FG .. as long as he chucks his pullup threes with 22 seconds on the shotclock, his team will never get better and never find a true rhythm.

and he plays ZERO DEFENSE. curry + kyrie most overrated PGs

enjoy never getting past the first round , warriorfans


top 5
1. westbrook
2. parker
3. paul
4. lillard
5. wall

navy
06-17-2014, 03:20 PM
I like your list but i might take Wall over Lillard, but not really sure on that
Perhaps. He didnt impress me at all. Granted he played vs the top 2 defenses.

Young X
06-17-2014, 03:31 PM
Parker is extremely overrated.

He's inefficient offensively and doesn't rebound or play defense to make up for it. The Spurs actually played better with him on the bench.

The Spurs won 3 straight closeout games against elite teams with him either not playing or having 0 impact (POR, OKC, MIA).

He averaged 17/6 on 55 TS% in the regular season and 17/5 on 53 TS% in the playoffs. That's not top 5 PG production plus he doesn't have any impact defensively to offset it. He's like the 5th most important person on his team.

Lowry, Wall, Lillard, Dragic > Parker.

jayfan
06-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Steph Curry is a top 5 player, but not a top 5 point guard.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 03:41 PM
Parker is extremely overrated.

He's inefficient offensively and doesn't rebound or play defense to make up for it. The Spurs actually played better with him on the bench.

The Spurs won 3 straight closeout games against elite teams with him either not playing or having 0 impact (POR, OKC, MIA).

He averaged 17/6 on 55 TS% in the regular season and 17/5 on 53 TS% in the playoffs. That's not top 5 PG production plus he doesn't have any impact defensively to offset it. He's like the 5th most important person on his team.

Lowry, Wall, Lillard, Dragic > Parker.


It's all the system, Pop put in Patty and Corey instead of Parker and they actually played even better with him on the bench. Imagine any other Top 10 PG with Spurs, they get so much better.

Anyway, Paul and Westbrook are CLEARLY in a tier of their own. Only ones that make an impact beyond scoring. Curry, Lilard, Parker all one dimensional midgets that don't have anywhere close the impact Russ/CP3 show on the court. If their shot isn't falling they are useless. Wall is the only one that has the potential to rival those 2 in the future.

I think Westbrook after these playoffs earned his #1 spot though, Paul is on the wrong side of 30 and not his athletic 2008 self no more. I think #2 is still amazing given his age and injuries.

Rocketswin2013
06-17-2014, 03:44 PM
CP3 is a better team player than Westbrook on both ends while Westbrook is the better one on one player on both ends. Really depends on with your team needs. Both impact the game at a higher level than any other PG.

My list goes:
CP3/Westbrook(Tie)
Curry
Lowry
Wall

Graviton
06-17-2014, 03:58 PM
CP3 is a better team player than Westbrook on both ends while Westbrook is the better one on one player on both ends. Really depends on with your team needs. Both impact the game at a higher level than any other PG.

My list goes:
CP3/Westbrook(Tie)
Curry
Lowry
Wall
I am sorry but how exactly does Paul impact the game better defensively? Did you watch these playoffs? Paul was getting blown by with ease and couldn't guard his own shadow. He also got posted up by Westbrook repeatedly and abused. His only impact defensively is his disruption in the passing lanes.

Westbrook is a better rebounder, better 1v1 and post defender, better shot blocker, just as good at getting steals, bigger, stronger, faster. Westbrook looked like young Wade out there with his intensity on D. He singlehandedly won them Game 5 vs LAC with defense. He averaged a near triple double for the whole playoffs. I think this year he clearly took that #1 spot. You need to take into account Paul's age and passiveness too, this isn't 2008 Paul we talking about. Westbrook goes hard for 4 quarters, can play with energy for 48 minutes. No other PG has his endurance and motor.

Finger Roll
06-17-2014, 03:59 PM
I'm from Toronto and love the Raptors. Lowry is not better than Parker.

dc_chilling
06-17-2014, 04:07 PM
Westbrook
Paul
Wall/Curry
Curry/Wall
Lillard

RoundMoundOfReb
06-17-2014, 04:09 PM
1. Paul
2. Curry
3. Westbrook
4. Lillard
5. Parker

Rocketswin2013
06-17-2014, 04:12 PM
I am sorry but how exactly does Paul impact the game better defensively? Did you watch these playoffs? Paul was getting blown by with ease and couldn't guard his own shadow. He also got posted up by Westbrook repeatedly and abused. His only impact defensively is his disruption in the passing lanes.

Westbrook is a better rebounder, better 1v1 and post defender, better shot blocker, just as good at getting steals, bigger, stronger, faster. Westbrook looked like young Wade out there with his intensity on D. He singlehandedly won them Game 5 vs LAC with defense. He averaged a near triple double for the whole playoffs. I think this year he clearly took that #1 spot. You need to take into account Paul's age and passiveness too, this isn't 2008 Paul we talking about. Westbrook goes hard for 4 quarters, can play with energy for 48 minutes. No other PG has his endurance and motor.
:lol You're proving my point. Chris paul is Jordan level at blowing up plays. And always has been because of his high IQ and skill level. No passings lanes are safe. He effects an entire team. He even prevented KD from getting the ball In the post on several occassions. He's just impactful on D.

Westbrook is just better one on one. Like I said. He is a better ISO player and scorer. Post game, driving. Everything involving the guy in front of him. On both ends. He's better on ball than Paul because he still has his athleticism and can keep up with most off the dribble. But off ball he isn't as good as Paul. He doesn't know when or when not to gamble at times. And he can get lost.

Depending on what your team needs. It's pretty close. On both ends. You can take either one. It's very close. To the point where it's a toss-up. CP3 is my second favorite player ever so I'm taking him. Westbrook is yours I guess so you'd take him. We'll just have to disagree.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 04:15 PM
:lol You're proving my point. Chris paul is Jordan level at blowing up plays. And always has been because of his high IQ and skill level. No passings lanes are safe. He effects an entire team. He even prevented KD from getting the ball In the post on several occassions. He's just impactful on D.

Westbrook is just better one on one. Like I said. He is a better ISO player and scorer. Post game, driving. Everything involving the guy in front of him. On both ends. He's better on ball than Paul because he still has his athleticism and can keep up with most off the dribble. But off ball he isn't as good as Paul. He doesn't know when or when not to gamble at times. And he can get lost.

Depending on what your team needs. It's prety close. On both ends. You can take either one. It's very close. To the point where it's a toss-up. CP3 is my second favorite player ever so I'm taking him. Westbrook is yours I guess so you'd take him We'll just have to disagree.

I see, I can respect that. I can still see an argument for either, but I was just saying taking into account age and wear and tear I think Westbrook is a safer choice.

What we can agree on is they are the only multi dimensional point guards, hate it when people put some one trick ponies above them. *cough* Curry *cough*. :lol

JimmyMcAdocious
06-17-2014, 04:17 PM
Curry is a one trick pony like Blake Griffin is one, too. amirite?

Graviton
06-17-2014, 04:22 PM
Curry is a one trick pony like Blake Griffin is one, too. amirite?
Ninja I live in the Bay, I get every Golden State game for free. I know Curry. He loves firing up the crowd and jacking up 3s while being a ghost on D. That shit isn't gonna get you anywhere in the playoffs. He is the Harden of PGs, except Harden runs into the paint and flops for free throws on top of chucking 3s.

navy
06-17-2014, 04:25 PM
Curry is a good passer though.

rufuspaul
06-17-2014, 04:27 PM
I love Steph Curry but he's more of a pure shooter than a point guard. It's a tough call because when he's in the zone he lights it up so spectacularly that any deficiencies in his game don't matter.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 04:28 PM
Curry is a good passer though.
What Top 10 PG isn't a good passer? They can all handle the ball and make plays, it's their main job.

Rocketswin2013
06-17-2014, 04:30 PM
Curry is a good passer though.
They're all good passers for their positions(Harden,Curry, Griffin). They just rely on things too much in the playoffs.

Curry's jumper
Harden's FT's
Griffin's FT's believe it or not and his pick N roll game.

Oh yeah and they don't play D :lol

Still great #2 options for title teams though. I don't know if any of them will ever be able to carry teams for deep playoff runs.

navy
06-17-2014, 04:32 PM
What Top 10 PG isn't a good passer? They can all handle the ball and make plays, it's their main job.

Lillard and Parker arent what I would call good passers.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 04:37 PM
Lillard and Parker arent what I would call good passers.
I think Parker is good, he just has moments where he thinks he is Manu.:lol Lilard is still young and learning.

People I wouldn't call good passers would be guys like Kendrick Perkins, Mario Chalmers, Dwight Howard.

JohnMax
06-17-2014, 04:43 PM
Chris Paul plays good defense. He just has trouble guarding Westbrook, Rose and occasionally Wall because those guys have elite speed, size and athleticism.