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Kukoc
06-17-2014, 04:46 PM
Game 1:
4-8 FG, 2-2 FT, 5 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Turnovers, 1 PF

Total of 12 points

Game 2:

8-12 FG, 3-4 FT, 3 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Techical, 3 PF

Total: 22 points

Game 3:

3-5 FG, FT, 2 Reb, 2 Ast, 5 Turnovers, 5 PF, 4 Steals

Total: 6 points

Game 4:

7-10 FG, 3-4 FT, 5 Reb, 1 Turnover

Total: 19 Points

Game 5:

4-9 FG, 2-2 FT, 2 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 PF

Total: 11 Points

Jlamb47
06-17-2014, 04:47 PM
Game 1:
2-5 FG, 2-3 Three Point, 2-2 FT, 5 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Turnovers, 1 PF

Total of 12 points

Game 2:

5-9 FG, 3-3 Three Point, 3-4 FT, 3 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Techical, 3 PF

Total: 22 points

Game 3:

3-4 FG, 0-1 Three Point, FT, 2 Reb, 2 Ast, 5 Turnovers, 5 PF, 4 Steals

Total: 6 points

Game 4:

5-5 FG, 2-5 Three Point, 3-4 FT, 5 Reb, 1 Turnover

Total: 19 Points

Game 5:

3-5 FG, 1-4 Three Point, 2-2 FT, 2 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 PF

Total: 11 Points

so what u tryna get here?

TheMarkMadsen
06-17-2014, 04:48 PM
Oh look, the only game he takes more than 5 shots in the 2nd half they won..

riseagainst
06-17-2014, 04:48 PM
get you get his 4th quarter stats?

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 04:48 PM
so what u tryna get here?


What do you think?

Giving that it is the NBA finals, he is to passive

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 04:50 PM
get you get his 4th quarter stats?


I wanted to be fair.

In game one he got the cramps and in game 4 and 5 he was substituted early in the 4 quarter

navy
06-17-2014, 04:52 PM
What are you trying to say?

navy
06-17-2014, 04:53 PM
What do you think?

Giving that it is the NBA finals, he is to passive
I thought Lebron needed to stop being so ball dominant. He was really cramping Wade and Bosh's style. :oldlol:

Jlamb47
06-17-2014, 04:54 PM
What do you think?

Giving that it is the NBA finals, he is to passive

thats his gameplan though, he just dosnt take over games like kobe/Mj does

RoundMoundOfReb
06-17-2014, 04:56 PM
So he averaged 14 (more than half of what he averaged per game) in the second half and 3 of those games were blowouts that he didn't finish in. Talk about reaching.

navy
06-17-2014, 04:57 PM
So he averaged 14 (more than half of what he averaged per game) in the second half and 3 of those games were blowouts that he didn't finish in. Talk about reaching.
:banana:

TheMarkMadsen
06-17-2014, 05:01 PM
I thought Lebron needed to stop being so ball dominant. He was really cramping Wade and Bosh's style. :oldlol:


Part of his ball dominance is because he doesn't have any go to moves, he doesn't have the quick pull up or anything like that, he holds the ball too much.

Part of being a great player is being able to dominant scoring while still involving your teammates and letting them get into a rythym.

Guys like Kobe & Jordan were able to average 30 in the finals while still dropping 6+ assist per game.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 05:02 PM
So he averaged 14 (more than half of what he averaged per game) in the second half and 3 of those games were blowouts that he didn't finish in. Talk about reaching.


Yeah but he is talking about Greatness and being the best ever.
There is a diffirent with being efficient and passive.

When he shoots, he make the points.
But that really dosnt happen much when you only shoots 6 times.


And yeah they where blowouts, thats why his team needed him to take over.

navy
06-17-2014, 05:05 PM
Lebron has career averages on 28 and 6 in the post season but he cant score and get his teammates involved at the same time. :oldlol:

NumberSix
06-17-2014, 05:05 PM
How do the stats of LeBron's 2nd halves stack up against Duncan's entire games. My guess is they aren't that far apart.

navy
06-17-2014, 05:08 PM
The only second half I fault Lebron in was Game 3. Turned the ball over way too many times as Wade was playing well. All the others were fine.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 05:10 PM
The only second half I fault Lebron in was Game 3. Turned the ball over way too many times as Wade was playing well. All the others were fine.


What about game 1 and 5?

TheMarkMadsen
06-17-2014, 05:10 PM
The only second half I fault Lebron in was Game 3. Turned the ball over way too many times as Wade was playing well. All the others were fine.


So you don't see anything wrong with only taking 5 shots in the second half of a finals elimination game after being on fire the 2 quarters prior?

Graviton
06-17-2014, 05:11 PM
The biggest problem wasn't Lebron's scoring, it was somehow his matchup being shut down for 2 games then in the last 3 averaging 24/9/2/2/2 on 68% shooting on top of elite defense. Like what? How?

How does a role player go from single digits to Finals MVP? Even with how hot the Spurs were, if Kawhi just stayed shut down Miami would still have a chance. People concentrating too much on Lebron's numbers when it was his effort on defense that was lacking. Wouldn't matter if he averaged 40PPG if they don't play any defense to make use of those points.

navy
06-17-2014, 05:11 PM
What about game 1 and 5?
Game 1 was fine outside of the cramps. Dont fault Lebron for that.

Game 5 the series was over.

TheMarkMadsen
06-17-2014, 05:13 PM
Game 1 was fine outside of the cramps. Dont fault Lebron for that.

Game 5 the series was over.

:facepalm

They were down 10 at half. He was ON FIRE before that.

How do you defend only taking 5 shots in that second half

Kiddlovesnets
06-17-2014, 05:13 PM
I think these stats are exaggerated. The Heat usually gets blown out so Lebron sits out for the entire last quarter.

navy
06-17-2014, 05:14 PM
So you don't see anything wrong with only taking 5 shots in the second half of a finals elimination game after being on fire the 2 quarters prior?
Not if he didnt play a majority of the fourth in a blowout. Then no. Why would I have a problem with it?

Inactive
06-17-2014, 05:14 PM
The biggest problem wasn't Lebron's scoring, it was somehow his matchup being shut down for 2 games then in the last 3 averaging 24/9/2/2/2 on 68% shooting on top of elite defense. Like what? How?

How does a role player go from single digits to Finals MVP? Even with how hot the Spurs were, if Kawhi just stayed shut down Miami would still have a chance. People concentrating too much on Lebron's numbers when it was his effort on defense that was lacking. Wouldn't matter if he averaged 40PPG if they don't play any defense to make use of those points.If he stayed with Kawhi, and shut him down, it would just mean more open shots for other players. The Spurs won by moving the ball, forcing the Heat to scramble, and hitting shots even when Heat players managed to get out for a decent contest. It wasn't about any individual player failing to guard his man.

ProfessorMurder
06-17-2014, 05:18 PM
I just don't understand how he can be satisfied with only taking 5 shots in a half.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 05:19 PM
If he stayed with Kawhi, and shut him down, it would just mean more open shots for other players. The Spurs won by moving the ball, forcing the Heat to scramble, and hitting shots even when Heat players managed to get out for a decent contest. It wasn't about any individual player failing to guard his man.
It was about them collectively failing to guard the perimeter, but at least in the 1st two games when Kawhi stayed shut down they had the closest matches. It's not just about the points, Kawhi had a contagious effect on the Spurs, they all got hot after him. His defensive plays sparked their runs, every time Heat made a crucial bucket Kawhi would get a key rebound, steal, block then make a shot that reignited the other role players. He was their fuel.

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 05:19 PM
:facepalm

They were down 10 at half. He was ON FIRE before that.

How do you defend only taking 5 shots in that second half
Because he didn't. He took 9 shots and sat the last 6:30 of the 4th.

He took 5 in the 3rd and 4 in the 4th.

zoom17
06-17-2014, 05:21 PM
Because he didn't. He took 9 shots and sat the last 6:30 of the 4th.

lol dude making up lies.

navy
06-17-2014, 05:22 PM
Because he didn't. He took 9 shots and sat the last 6:30 of the 4th.
Made up stats? I should have known. Typical ISH. :oldlol:

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 05:23 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=400559378


Click the drop down and click on James name, click 3rd quarter, then do the same for 4th qtr.

SexSymbol
06-17-2014, 05:24 PM
He choked

TheMarkMadsen
06-17-2014, 05:29 PM
Made up stats? I should have known. Typical ISH. :oldlol:

Well OP come on now :facepalm

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 05:31 PM
Madsen be mad. Gone to fap while looking at his Kobe fathead on the bedroom ceiling

Solefade
06-17-2014, 05:33 PM
lebron scored 19 pts in the 3rd quarter of game 4 and the deficit still grew

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 05:35 PM
Well OP come on now :facepalm


What??

You need to read my OP.

LeBron took 5 FG and 3 Three point shots.

Thats a total of 8 shots taken in the second half.

Still it is only 4 shots per quarter.
Not great

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 05:36 PM
lebron scored 19 pts in the 3rd quarter of game 4 and the deficit still grew


He only scored 19 points the second half in game 4

Solefade
06-17-2014, 05:36 PM
What??

You need to read my OP.

LeBron took 5 FG and 3 Three point shots.

Thats a total of 8 shots taken in the second half.

Still it is only 4 shots per quarter.
Not great


then include it in the total FGA you fcking retard

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 05:38 PM
What??

You need to read my OP.

LeBron took 5 FG and 3 Three point shots.

Thats a total of 8 shots taken in the second half.

Still it is only 4 shots per quarter.
Not great
3pta are FGA ya dope. They're not counted separately.

He took 9 shots in the 2nd half of game 5.

sipitri
06-17-2014, 05:42 PM
Game 1:
2-5 FG, 2-3 Three Point, 2-2 FT, 5 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Turnovers, 1 PF

Total of 12 points

Game 2:

5-9 FG, 3-3 Three Point, 3-4 FT, 3 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Techical, 3 PF

Total: 22 points

Game 3:

3-4 FG, 0-1 Three Point, FT, 2 Reb, 2 Ast, 5 Turnovers, 5 PF, 4 Steals

Total: 6 points

Game 4:

5-5 FG, 2-5 Three Point, 3-4 FT, 5 Reb, 1 Turnover

Total: 19 Points

Game 5:

3-5 FG, 1-4 Three Point, 2-2 FT, 2 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 PF

Total: 11 Points

Minutes?

navy
06-17-2014, 05:44 PM
Minutes?
Who cares? OP doesnt even know how to report stats correctly.

ArbitraryWater
06-17-2014, 05:46 PM
Wait, this guy now excluded 3 pointers from FGA?


:roll: :roll:

Bless Mathews
06-17-2014, 05:47 PM
thats his gameplan though, he just dosnt take over games like kobe/Mj does
Because all he cares about is stat padding not winning.

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 05:50 PM
Because all he cares about is stat padding not winning.
Kobe's the ultimate stat padder while not caring about winning.

Let me know when James avg. 35fga for a season.

Black and White
06-17-2014, 05:50 PM
My biggest issues are game 3 and game 5, game 5 was only a 7 point game at the start of the 2nd half, and he came out too passive and the Spurs ran away with it, you can't seriously act like any other superstar wouldnt come out and try and cut that deficit straight away.

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 05:54 PM
Wait, this guy now excluded 3 pointers from FGA?


:roll: :roll:
That's worse than when I saw a dude who kept writing offense of rebounds instead of offensive.

OP is a DOPE.

navy
06-17-2014, 05:54 PM
My biggest issues are game 3 and game 5, game 5 was only a 7 point game at the start of the 2nd half, and he came out too passive and the Spurs ran away with it, you can't seriously act like any other superstar wouldnt come out and try and cut that deficit straight away.
Which is why I laugh when people claim Lebron is too ball dominant. He let Wade, Bosh, and Allen try to get going. Huge mistake. And no they werent just catching and shooting, but that should have been the game plan. High pick and roll with Lebron EVERY play. :oldlol:

tontoz
06-17-2014, 05:55 PM
I don't like Lebron and was thrilled to see the Spurs win but come on, you can't blame Lebron for losing this series. He averaged 28/8/4 with stellar efficiency. The rest of his team just stunk.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 05:55 PM
then include it in the total FGA you fcking retard


Someone is salty

NumberSix
06-17-2014, 05:56 PM
My biggest issues are game 3 and game 5, game 5 was only a 7 point game at the start of the 2nd half, and he came out too passive and the Spurs ran away with it, you can't seriously act like any other superstar wouldnt come out and try and cut that deficit straight away.
Who are you to have any "issue"? You're not even a fan of either team.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 05:57 PM
That's worse than when I saw a dude who kept writing offense of rebounds instead of offensive.

OP is a DOPE.


Your mom is a dope.

There is a diffirent making a 3 point shot and a lay up shot.

tontoz
06-17-2014, 05:58 PM
Your mom is a dope.

There is a diffirent making a 3 point shot and a lay up shot.


:lol

Black and White
06-17-2014, 06:00 PM
Who are you to have any "issue"? You're not even a fan of either team.

You aren't a Bulls fan, but you seem to always have an opinion on them :oldlol:

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:01 PM
:lol


Whatever dude.

English is my 3rd language.

So I was supposed to write difference

Big deal

Black and White
06-17-2014, 06:02 PM
Your mom is a dope.

There is a diffirent making a 3 point shot and a lay up shot.

How is there a difference? They are both FGA

ILLsmak
06-17-2014, 06:03 PM
The biggest problem wasn't Lebron's scoring, it was somehow his matchup being shut down for 2 games then in the last 3 averaging 24/9/2/2/2 on 68% shooting on top of elite defense. Like what? How?

How does a role player go from single digits to Finals MVP? Even with how hot the Spurs were, if Kawhi just stayed shut down Miami would still have a chance. People concentrating too much on Lebron's numbers when it was his effort on defense that was lacking. Wouldn't matter if he averaged 40PPG if they don't play any defense to make use of those points.

lol well he's def not a role player and was beasting last year, but he really did make Bron his bitch. I think that all of the "Did Duncan outplay Bron" threads don't take that into account... Bron actually did get beaten in his matchup. Gm 1 was whatever, game 2 heat win. Then he got done by Leonard.

-Smak

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:03 PM
How is there a difference? They are both FGA


Well a 3 point shot is way harder to make and it gives you 3 points, not 2.

You dont include FT in the FG stat, but why do you do it with 3 point shots?

Hey Yo
06-17-2014, 06:04 PM
Whatever dude.

English is my 3rd language.

So I was supposed to write difference

Big deal
And a doorknob knows more about basketball than you.

Dumb Euro

NumberSix
06-17-2014, 06:04 PM
You aren't a Bulls fan, but you seem to always have an opinion on them :oldlol:
I don't pretend to not be a hater.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 06:05 PM
You shouldn't count misses either if the shooter's team gets the offensive rebound, it's just an indirect assist. :lol

tontoz
06-17-2014, 06:07 PM
Was Lebron supposed to average 40 against Leonard? I am so glad he lost but some of the criticism i have seen is just ridiculous.

navy
06-17-2014, 06:08 PM
Was Lebron supposed to average 40 against Leonard? I am so glad he lost but some of the criticism i have seen is just ridiculous.
40 field goal attempts. :lol

tontoz
06-17-2014, 06:09 PM
Well a 3 point shot is way harder to make and it gives you 3 points, not 2.

You dont include FT in the FG stat, but why do you do it with 3 point shots?


Because FG is short for field goal and a 3 point shot is a shot from the field. A free throw isn't.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:09 PM
And a doorknob knows more about basketball than you.

Dumb Euro



Oh fork. How is life over there in America?

You do know all of Europe laughs at guys like you all the time.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Because FG is short for field goal and a 3 point shot is a shot from the field. A free throw isn't.



Da fork?

Then where is it shot from?

The moon?

navy
06-17-2014, 06:11 PM
Da fork?

Then where is it shot from?

The moon?
Stop posting. :roll:

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:11 PM
You shouldn't count misses either if the shooter's team gets the offensive rebound, it's just an indirect assist. :lol



Still salty about the WCF?


What else can you expect from a Westbrook stan boy

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:12 PM
Stop posting. :roll:


Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,184



Maybe you should do the same thing

Black and White
06-17-2014, 06:14 PM
Da fork?

Then where is it shot from?

The moon?

:biggums:

tontoz
06-17-2014, 06:19 PM
Da fork?

Then where is it shot from?

The moon?


A free throw is shot from the free throw line. That is why it shows up in the box score as a FT.

All shots from the field are counted as FGs. Do you ever actually look at box scores?

In the last game Lebron shot 10-21 from the field. Three of those field goals were three pointers therefore he scored 23 points from the field. Add his 8 foul shots and his total is 31 points.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400559378

Do they teach math where you are from? If so you obviously failed.

Graviton
06-17-2014, 06:20 PM
Still salty about the WCF?


What else can you expect from a Westbrook stan boy
Dude why are you so mean, that wasn't even directed at you but you cut me deep with those words, english is my 3rd language too brother. Why did you have to dehumanize me so mercilessly? I have feelings too you know.

You must know everything about me after seeing my avatar ha? Do you think I would presume to know the first thing about you just because I saw your avatar? You wouldn't know about real loss, because that only occurs when you lose something you love more than yourself, and you have never dared to love anything that much. I look at you and I don't see an intelligent confident man, I don't see a peer, and I don't see my equal. I see a boy. Nobody could possibly understand you, right Kukoc? But you know everything about another human being just from their avatar.

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:23 PM
Dude why are you so mean, that wasn't even directed at you but you cut me deep with those words, english is my 3rd language too brother. Why did you have to dehumanize me so mercilessly? I have feelings too you know.

You must know everything about me after seeing my avatar ha? Do you think I would presume to know the first thing about you just because I saw your avatar? You wouldn't know about real loss, because that only occurs when you lose something you love more than yourself, and you have never dared to love anything that much. I look at you and I don't see an intelligent confident man, I don't see a peer, and I don't see my equal. I see a boy. Nobody could possibly understand you, right Kukoc? But you know everything about another human being just from their avatar.


Easy dude. Are you serious? Dont take it so personal.
So where are you from ?

Graviton
06-17-2014, 06:35 PM
Easy dude. Are you serious? Dont take it so personal.
So where are you from ?
I am from Boston.

mehyaM24
06-17-2014, 06:37 PM
^never seen good will hunting, i assume :oldlol:

Graviton
06-17-2014, 06:38 PM
^never seen good will hunting, i assume :oldlol:
Is that a TV show? :confusedshrug:

Kukoc
06-17-2014, 06:41 PM
I am from Boston.


Then how in the world can english be your 3rd language?

Graviton
06-17-2014, 06:52 PM
Then how in the world can english be your 3rd language?
I am of Russian-Italian descent.

ArbitraryWater
06-17-2014, 06:54 PM
That's worse than when I saw a dude who kept writing offense of rebounds instead of offensive.

OP is a DOPE.

:oldlol:

Marlo_Stanfield
06-17-2014, 06:55 PM
So he averaged 14 (more than half of what he averaged per game) in the second half and 3 of those games were blowouts that he didn't finish in. Talk about reaching.
straight retards left and right in this board.
you can see how great LeBrons finals were.
if he would have been just decent and not all-time great there would have been a shitload of LEBron is terrible threads.
of course there were some but it was really casual hating

Ai2death
06-17-2014, 07:24 PM
We all know Lebron is a great player, but we also all know he scores and plays in the flow of the game, whether that's good or bad is your own opinion, But we know he rarely is going to go out and constantly force the issue and attack, especially late in games.

AintNoSunshine
06-18-2014, 04:24 AM
Oh look, the only game he takes more than 5 shots in the 2nd half they won..


:oldlol: More like the only game they were not trailing by 20 going into the second half they won.

chopchop20
06-18-2014, 05:47 AM
Part of his ball dominance is because he doesn't have any go to moves, he doesn't have the quick pull up or anything like that, he holds the ball too much.

Part of being a great player is being able to dominant scoring while still involving your teammates and letting them get into a rythym.

Guys like Kobe & Jordan were able to average 30 in the finals while still dropping 6+ assist per game.

True. Dude is nowhere close to MJ or Kobe in terms of offensive skill. He has no off the ball game to speak of. His foot work and handles are limited. He hangs in the air like a brick.

knicksman
06-18-2014, 07:45 AM
lebron only scores when defenses are lax. Like when they are down 20 or 1st quarters. But when the defense is tight, hes nowhere to be found. And thats what you call overrated. Hes like wilt. Good in the regular season but nowhere in the playoffs once defense tightens. Thats why only idiots are fooled by him. Youre ability to score is measured by how tough the situation it is to score. Lebron is nowhere in the clutch. Lebron is just your typical bully. Betas who only bullies the weak(regular season or 1st quarters) but nowhere to be found when faced by a real alpha.

knicksman
06-18-2014, 07:52 AM
Kobe's the ultimate stat padder while not caring about winning.

Let me know when James avg. 35fga for a season.

LOL at this idiot