Bran's now 5-7 vs 50-win teams in the Playoffs

[Deuce Bigalow]

*5-7 not 5-8

7-7 with the lockout

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

2/5

11-16

5-7

[sportjames23]

:oldlol: :lol :roll:

[TheGreatDeraj]

what does 11-16 mean?

are these the 50 win teams Lebron beat?

Spurs
Pacers
Bulls
Celtics
Pistons
OKC* lockout

which teams 50+ win teams did he lose against?

[Rubio2Gasol]

:milton

[iggy>]

Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.

[Droid101]

Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.
Irrelevant to the thread. Please delete your post and contribute to the thread or leave.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.

Kobe 2/5 FMVP where he gets a ring regardless

Lebron 2/5 rings.


Next.

[riseagainst]

Kobe 2/5 FMVP where he gets a ring regardless

Lebron 2/5 rings.


Next.

/ether

[TheMarkMadsen]

what does 11-16 mean?

are these the 50 win teams Lebron beat?

Spurs
Pacers
Bulls
Celtics
Pistons
OKC* lockout

which teams 50+ win teams did he lose against?


11-16 is Lebrons W/L in the finals

[TheGreatDeraj]

Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.

Typical Philly trash no wonder Kobe stuck to Lower Merion

[Deuce Bigalow]

what does 11-16 mean?

are these the 50 win teams Lebron beat?

Spurs
Pacers
Bulls
Celtics
Pistons
OKC* lockout

which teams 50+ win teams did he lose against?
11-16 is his Finals record

0-4
2-4
4-1
4-3
1-4
Overall: 11-16

Yeah those are the teams

[iggy>]

Kobe 2/5 FMVP where he gets a ring regardless

Lebron 2/5 rings.


Next.
Sorry, lebron had to carry the garbage cavs to the playoffs every year, he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:

[TheGreatDeraj]

11-16 is Lebrons W/L in the finals

OUCH :lol ouch .41 win % in the NBA finals, dat efficiency

[Droid101]

he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:
To my knowledge, nobody ever did that.

Why would you do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

[SexSymbol]

Sorry, lebron had to carry the garbage cavs to the playoffs every year, he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:
Kobe did not demand that trade lol, Jerry West had it planned long before the draft day.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Sorry, lebron had to carry the garbage cavs to the playoffs every year, he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:
Kobe was a Laker before Shaq :oldlol:

[iggy>]

Typical Philly trash no wonder Kobe stuck to Lower Merion
Kobe is a fellow eagles fan, so hes cool with me. You fraud lakers fans have never even been to cali, probably cowboys fans as well:roll:

[riseagainst]

Kobe is a fellow eagles fan, so hes cool with me. You fraud lakers fans have never even been to cali, probably cowboys fans as well:roll:

there's a 2/5 chance that they are laker fans.

[RedBlackAttack]

Can you provide a detailed list? This is what I came up with, but I may be missing some. Also, it's not really a fair statistic since arguably James' best run came during the strike-shortened 2011-12 season. Going 50-32 means winning 61-percent of your games.

In 2012, the Heat beat the Pacers (64%) and the Thunder (71%), but neither team technically had 50 wins because there were only 66 games played.

2006 - L Pistons (3-4)
2007 - W Pistons (4-2); L Spurs (0-4)
2008 - L Celtics (3-4)
2009 - L Magic (2-4)
2010 - L Celtics (2-4)
2011 - W Celtics (4-1); W Bulls (4-1); L Thunder (2-4)
*2012 - W Pacers (4-2); W Thunder (4-1)
2013 - W Spurs (4-3)
2014 - W Pacers (4-2); L Spurs (1-4)

I'm coming up with 5-7 if you unfairly don't include 2012... 7-7 if you do include it. :confusedshrug:

[navy]

The 2013 Pacers won 49 games but missed a game vs Boston because of the the Boston Bombing that took place. A .604 instead of .609.

Not sure why Im responding seriously though. :oldlol:

[TheGreatDeraj]

Kobe is a fellow eagles fan, so hes cool with me. You fraud lakers fans have never even been to cali, probably cowboys fans as well:roll:

My family has been Laker/Steeler fans since before either of us were born. Enjoy losing every year...I'll be enjoying watching my teams win titles, 7 in my lifetime, 5 Lakers and 2 Steelers :cheers:

Still trying to figure out why a Philly fan has Lebron's man juice all over his chin?

maybe YOU'RE the fraud fan?

[pegasus]

Pathetic:lol

And what's even more pathetic is that his team won 2 chips despite a record like that:facepalm

[RedBlackAttack]

What lost series am I missing on the above list? Again, I have 5-7 by unfairly excluding the 2012 playoffs... 7-7 if you include it fairly.

[navy]

What lost series am I missing on the above list? Again, I have 5-7 by unfairly excluding the 2012 playoffs... 7-7 if you include it fairly.
You put Thunder instead of Mavs in 2011.

Lebron has been in the post season 9 times. Won 2. He couldnt have lost 8 times to any win teams.

[Real14]

:roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

What lost series am I missing on the above list? Again, I have 5-7 by unfairly excluding the 2012 playoffs... 7-7 if you include it fairly.
You're correct.

[Lebronxrings]

oh look more dumbasses who think records really have any indication over how good a team is in the playoffs. Using that logic, i'm sure the no.1 seed should always win the championship.

[PickernRoller]

People think I am only dissing Bron when I say he's a fraud.

I am actually being honest - the kid is simply a fraud benefiting from a weak era and his tards shouldn't get mad about it.

We already know he cracks against solid competition. That's why I cringe everytime LeTards say their boy had game for the 90's and early 00's.

[Real14]

People think I am only dissing Bron when I say he's a fraud.

I am actually being honest - the kid is simply a fraud benefiting from a weak era and his tards shouldn't get mad about it.

We already know he cracks against solid competition. That's why I cringe everytime LeTards say their boy had game for the 90's and early 00's.
That niguh wud shit in his overalls after facing bad boy pistons and Ewing knicks:oldlol:

[Ne 1]

Sorry, lebron had to carry the garbage cavs to the playoffs every year, he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:
2006 Wizards (42-40)
2007 Wizards (42-40)
2007 Nets (41-41)
2007 Pistons (53-29)
2008 Wizards (43-39)
2009 Pistons (39-43)
2009 Hawks (47-35)
2010 Bulls (41-41)


There isn't an all star in this league incapable of duplicating Lebron's "success" with the Cavs. Those teams dont even make the playoffs in the West.

Any superstar in league history when paired with a top defensive, top rebounding and top three point shooting supporting cast is capable of duplicating what LeBron accomplished given the competition with the Cavs. People with agendas love to make his teammates look worse than they are just to prop up LeBron. The team, especially in 2010 perfectly complimented his talents or any superstar wing for that matter.

[Kblaze8855]

What lost series am I missing on the above list? Again, I have 5-7 by unfairly excluding the 2012 playoffs... 7-7 if you include it fairly.


You know fairness isnt the issue here.

[red1]

Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3816676-0704928121-36645.gif

[Legends66NBA7]

OP tires way too hard. Long off-season is long.


Still trying to figure out why a Philly fan has Lebron's man juice all over his chin?

maybe YOU'RE the fraud fan?

How does that make anybody a fraud fan ? You realize fans can be a fan of LeBron James AND cheer for a team he's not on, right ?

[red1]

Sorry, lebron had to carry the garbage cavs to the playoffs every year, he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:
this guy just shitting on deuce jig-a-hoe

http://replygif.net/i/538.gif

[Droid101]

this guy just shitting on deuce jig-a-hoe

Er, no he's not. Are you even reading the thread?

[red1]

Er, no he's not. Are you even reading the thread?

Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.
how is this not a steaming dump on the male prostitute's head?

http://forums.starcitizenbase.com/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-6333-0-72715300-1397318462.gif

[Legends66NBA7]

Er, no he's not. Are you even reading the thread?

It's a bait thread. I don't see why anyone would actually want to read the garbage based of using team accomplishment over individual production. Hence, people not giving a shit and giving the answers meant to derail the turd of a thread.

Anyone could actually use logic and use individual production during each series in question to see whether LeBron James played great, "average", or bad. It's not really worth the effort, though.

[Real14]

http://forums.starcitizenbase.com/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-6333-0-72715300-1397318462.gif
forget biden:coleman:

[SexSymbol]

how is this not a steaming on the male prostitute's head?

http://forums.starcitizenbase.com/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-6333-0-72715300-1397318462.gif
LeBron is 2/5 in the finals.
That's probably the only thing closest to a joke that is not intended to be one in this thread.

[knicksman]

so kobe has 26-8 compared to brans 5-8. how overrated this clown is??LOL only idiots cant see it

[navy]

It's a bait thread. I don't see why anyone would actually want to read the garbage based of using team accomplishment over individual production. Hence, people not giving shit and giving the answers meant to derail the turd of a thread.

Anyone could actually use logic and use individual production during each series in question to see whether LeBron James played great, "average", or bad. It's not really worth the effort, though.

Not to mention he just got the stat wrong. :oldlol:

[navy]

so kobe has 26-8 compared to brans 5-8. how overrated this clown is??LOL only idiots cant see it
Where did you get this 5-8 stat from? :banana:

[SexSymbol]

so kobe has 26-8 compared to brans 5-8. how overrated this clown is??LOL only idiots cant see it
Kobe is 26-10 and 25-8 in his prime years or as a starter whatever you call it

[red1]

LeBron is 2/5 in the finals.
That's probably the only thing closest to a joke that is not intended to be one in this thread.

2/5. Played on mediocre teams half of his career. 2/4 in the finals in his prime. 29 years old.














































Yet still tied for finals mvps.

https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0313/85/1397150140463.gif

[Droid101]

Wow, this is embarrassing. red1 is reeeally reaching here.

[SexSymbol]

2/5. Played on mediocre teams half of his career. 2/4 in the finals in his prime. 29 years old.














































Yet still tied for finals mvps.

https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0313/85/1397150140463.gif
And has 2.5 times less rings.
I won't add a stupid gif of somebody laughing, I think 2.5 times less speaks for itself

[navy]

Yet still tied for finals mvps.


:lebronamazed:

Kobe stans making it too easy. Kobe had a nice run with the 2008-2010 Lakers, but he will always be tied with Lebron for non sidekick rings.

[red1]

Wow, this is embarrassing. red1 is reeeally reaching here.
:biggums: What does that even mean. Where is the reach? This guy posting in a bait thread yet all he notices is my post. Get it with it son. 2/5 :lol

[knicksman]

Kobe is 26-10 and 25-8 in his prime years or as a starter whatever you call it

still a huge gap. Only idiots really cant see how overrated this clown is

[knicksman]

red1 showing his betaness caring so much about finals MVPs than rings. What a loser. No wonder losers root for losers.

[J Shuttlesworth]

:lebronamazed:

Kobe stans making it too easy. Kobe had a nice run with the 2008-2010 Lakers, but he will always be tied with Lebron for non sidekick rings.
Always? :kobe:

LeBron will be ahead of him probably next year w/ 3 FMVPs

[plowking]

4 of those 7, 50 win teams that Bron did lose to, actually became the Champions that year.
Another 1 was a minute away from winning the title, and probably should have if it wasn't for a whole lot of terrible free throws against them, in the Boston Celtics in 2010.
Another 1 was a finalist in the Orlando Magic, which Lebron lost to while averaging 38/8/8.
Another was the defending champ Pistons.

Not a bad list to lose to.

[red1]

red1 showing his betaness caring so much about finals MVPs than rings. What a loser. No wonder losers root for losers.
deal with it

http://web.yesnetwork.com/assets/images/7/4/8/51343748/cuts/lebron275_062113_xghu4g32_1mpfbngu.jpg

[Real14]

Always? :kobe:

LeBron will be ahead of him probably next year w/ 3 FMVPs
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3816676-0704928121-36645.gif

[J Shuttlesworth]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3816676-0704928121-36645.gif
What's Melo's FMVP count bro?

LeBron's FMVP count is higher than the entire Knicks history :roll:

[navy]

Always? :kobe:

LeBron will be ahead of him probably next year w/ 3 FMVPs
True. 2/5 still has potential.

Kobe? He's done.

[Legends66NBA7]

4 of those 7, 50 win teams that Bron did lose to, actually became the Champions that year.
Another 1 was a minute away from winning the title, and probably should have if it wasn't for a whole lot of terrible free throws against them, in the Boston Celtics in 2010.
Another 1 was a finalist in the Orlando Magic, which Lebron lost to while averaging 38/8/8.
Another was the defending champ Pistons.

Not a bad list to lose to.

Pretty much. I would have put the whole list in with LeBron's production, but it's not worth it right now (maybe I'll change my mind later).

By the way, the Pistons were the Finalist in 05, but yeah... it's still not a bad team to lose too. James held his own against them.

[Legends66NBA7]

What's Melo's FMVP count bro?

LeBron's FMVP count is higher than the entire Knicks history :roll:

It's equal.

But LeBron has more potential to get more titles and FMVP's than the Knicks do at this point in time.

[plowking]

Pretty much. I would have put the whole list in with LeBron's production, but it's not worth it right now (maybe I'll change my mind later).

By the way, the Pistons were the Finalist in 05, but yeah... it's still not a bad team to lose too. James held his own against them.

Yep my bad.

So 6/7 he lost to were in the finals, with 4/7 being the eventual champions. So essentially he's only lost 3 times, when a team has been beatable by someone else.

[bigkingsfan]

Because playing for a shitty franchise had nothing to do with that.

[PJR]

What's Kobe's record against 50 win teams without Shaq or Pau Gasol as a teammate?

[SexSymbol]

What's Kobe's record against 50 win teams without Shaq or Pau Gasol as a teammate?
0-2, though he held more that his own against both of those loses against Suns.
30.3 ppg - 5.8 rpg - 4.8 apg, 47.8FG%

[red1]

What's Kobe's record against 50 win teams without Shaq or Pau Gasol as a teammate?
Most of kobe's most flaunted accomplishments on this board are team accomplishments because individually he just doesnt measure up to the other all-time greats. "Kobe beat more 50 win teams" "Kobe won 5 rings" "Kobe is 5/7 in the finals"

See a trend? :lol

[PJR]

0-2

Oh ok, thanks.

[navy]

Oh ok, thanks.
:oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Most of kobe's most flaunted accomplishments on this board are team accomplishments because individually he just doesnt measure up to the other all-time greats. "Kobe beat more 50 win teams" "Kobe won 5 rings" "Kobe is 5/7 in the finals"

See a trend? :lol


How about when he individually dropped 81 on the team you pretend to root for?

[Ne 1]

What's Kobe's record against 50 win teams without Shaq or Pau Gasol as a teammate?
Gasol = 0-12 in the playoffs without Kobe.

[TheMarkMadsen]

KAJ has 2 FMVP

what a scrub

[navy]

KAJ has 2 FMVP

what a scrub
Has a real case for 3 however...


Jordan 6-6 :bowdown:

Why he is the GOAT.

[kamil]

http://i59.tinypic.com/2yu0vgh.gif

[red1]

How about when he individually dropped 81 on the team you pretend to root for?
why do all of you chuckbe stans say the same shit. liking lebron means I pretend to root for the raptors? :lol

[red1]

does this enrage you?

http://www.singleblackmale.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lebron-james-championship-parade.png

[TheMarkMadsen]

Has a real case for 3 however...


Jordan 6-6 :bowdown:

Why he is the GOAT.


KAJ rings don't count he played with Magic & Oscar.

[TheMarkMadsen]

why do all of you chuckbe stans say the same shit. liking lebron means I pretend to root for the raptors? :lol


Because all you do is Stan Lebron and never discuss the raptors :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

this guy just shitting on deuce jig-a-hoe

http://replygif.net/i/538.gif
2/5 brah I know it's hard to accept but you'll come to terms with it eventually or one of you might end up being like Lazeruss and writing essays to justify 2/6....in this case 2/5.

[red1]

Because all you do is Stan Lebron and never discuss the raptors :lol
false :pimp:

[Real14]

Because all you do is Stan Lebron and never discuss the raptors :lol
http://assets1.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/mcgrady_carter640.jpg

[navy]

KAJ rings don't count he played with Magic & Oscar.
All rings count. But it important to note when a player was a sidekick. :no:

[Deuce Bigalow]

All rings count. But it important to note when a player was a sidekick. :no:
How come Bran couldn't be a good enough sidekick to Wade in the 2011 Finals?

[red1]

2/5 brah I know it's hard to accept but you'll come to terms with it eventually or one of you might end up being like Lazeruss and writing essays to justify 2/6....in this case 2/5.
oh you mean kobe's finals mvp ratio? :lol

[DonDadda59]

That's not gonna look good on the ole resume :milton

[navy]

How come Bran couldn't be a good enough sidekick to Wade in the 2011 Finals?
Dude choked.

Kinda like Kobe chucking in countless Finals until he couldnt be saved by Shaq in 2004.

[red1]

http://assets1.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/mcgrady_carter640.jpg
great post :pimp:

[JT123]

2005 - 2010 don't count, as he was playing with D leaguers. What's his record against 50 win teams when he actually has legit NBA players on his team, aka the Heat years? :confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

All rings count. But it important to note when a player was a sidekick. :no:


So KAJ was a side kick for 4 of his 6 rings?

[Legends66NBA7]

oh you mean kobe's finals mvp ratio? :lol

2/7, no ?

[red1]

2/7, no ?
:oldlol: I meant finals mvp to championship ratio but that works too

[navy]

So KAJ was a side kick for 4 of his 6 rings?

Dat boy Magic Johnson. :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

oh you mean kobe's finals mvp ratio? :lol
No I mean that Bran has a losing record in the Finals.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Dat boy Magic Johnson. :bowdown:


Glad to see your logic has you up against a wall

"Do I continue my Kobe hating logic and say KAJ was a sidekick because he won 6 rings but I only 2 FMVP & look like an idiot"

[navy]

No I mean that Bran has a losing record in the Finals.
Losing record in the Finals and still on pace to pass Kobe in non sidekick rings.

:applause:

[red1]

No I mean that Bran has a losing record in the Finals.
let's talk about records broski. god bless the guy who made this, lord knows I dont have the time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE77daXCcAA3FHV.jpg

[dubeta]

Bran gets killed for carrying his team to the finals, but kirby gets praised for being the GOAT 1st round loser in his prime :facepalm

[Ne 1]

as he was playing with D leaguers.
:rolleyes:

[Droid101]

red1 is getting cringeworthy in this thread. Yikes.

[red1]

red1 is getting cringeworthy in this thread. Yikes.
you take passive-aggressive clown shit to a new level. just address a post you don't like and I'll tell you why

[kamil]

red1 is getting cringeworthy in this thread. Yikes.

It's too bad, most Raptors fans aren't as stupid.

[navy]

Glad to see your logic has you up against a wall

"Do I continue my Kobe hating logic and say KAJ was a sidekick because he won 6 rings but I only 2 FMVP & look like an idiot"
Kareem was a sidekick for some of those rings. Magic was the engine that made the team run. Straight GOATIN the point guard position.

In 1980 though Kareem lost the FMVP because he got injured. Not because he was a sidekick at the time. :confusedshrug:

[Ne 1]

:lebronamazed:

Kobe stans making it too easy. Kobe had a nice run with the 2008-2010 Lakers, but he will always be tied with Lebron for non sidekick rings. 2001 and 2002 are more so Co-MVP rings than side-kick rings.

[plowking]

red1 is clowning everyone in here.

[red1]

It's too bad, most Raptors fans aren't as stupid.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2yu0vgh.gif
yup you mad

[JT123]

2001 and 2002 are more so Co-MVP rings than side-kick rings.
:roll: :roll: :roll: The things Kobetards say in order to help themselves sleep at night. If Kobe was worthy of being a Co-MVP he would have been. Didn't he and Shaq share an All Star game MVP once?

[Droid101]

http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif

[navy]

2001 and 2002 are more so Co-MVP rings than side-kick rings.

I dont care about the Conference playoffs. The Finals are all that matters. The biggest stage. Dont give me no, the West finals was the real finals. Nothing is guaranteed. The Finals were the real Finals.

Kobe was sidekicking and chucking.

Dat boy Shaq doe. :bowdown:

[kamil]

yup you mad

*raptors fan

[red1]

http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif
respect to a legend :applause: god bless the spurs and their loyal fans

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kareem was a sidekick for some of those rings. Magic was the engine that made the team run. Straight GOATIN the point guard position.

In 1980 though Kareem lost the FMVP because he got injured. Not because he was a sidekick at the time. :confusedshrug:


Damn so KAJ team won a finals series even after he got injured???

And he won most his rings with the undisputed GOAT point guard?

Damn, so he's overrated as fck right?

2/6 FMVP :roll:

Only won rings with the GOAT point guard

Gets injured and his team still wins :lol

Top 10? :facepalm

Am I doing it right?

[stalkerforlife]

The all time greats do whatever they can to win, even if that means going 6-24.

That's why Bron is not in my top 10.

[navy]

gif
Dat boy Duncan. 3/6 :bowdown:

[red1]

red1 is clowning everyone in here.
5th post in the thread already shit on the OP


Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.
my goodness :roll:

[navy]

Damn so KAJ team won a finals series even after he got injured???

And he won most his rings with the undisputed GOAT point guard?

Damn, so he's overrated as fck right?

2/6 FMVP :roll:

Only won rings with the GOAT point guard

Gets injured and his team still wins :lol

Top 10? :facepalm

Am I doing it right?

Not overrated to me. I know his place. Might be overrated to some depending on their own flawed subjective criteria, yeah. :confusedshrug:

But dat boy Magic Johnson. :bowdown:

[r0drig0lac]

http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif
GOAT :bowdown:

[TheCorporation]

http://i59.tinypic.com/29w97wi.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

let's talk about records broski. god bless the guy who made this, lord knows I dont have the time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE77daXCcAA3FHV.jpg
Hey you know what's also 40%?

2/5

[navy]

The all time greats do whatever they can to win, even if that means going 6-24.

That's why Bron is not in my top 10.
Kobe stans are the only one's who try to use getting bailed out and carried as an accomplishment. :oldlol:

[Warfan]

Is OP sure he's 5-8?? Havent read the thread yet but im guessing someone already said this.

Lost to 06 Pistons, 07 Spurs, 08 Celtics, 09 Magic 10 Celtics, 11 Mavs, 14 Spurs

Beat 07 Pistons, 11 Celtics, 11 Bulls, 12 Pacers, 12 Thunder, 13 Spurs, 14 Pacers. 13 Pacers might've won 50 games if they got to play in Boston, not sure if the 2012 Celtics would've been a 50 win team, were probably like 1 or 2 games off.

So he's 7-7

[navy]

Hey you know what's also 40%?

2/5
2/5 and still on pace to pass Kobe. :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif

Pop: "Not 2... not 3... not 4..."

:applause:

[red1]

Hey you know what's also 40%?

2/5
better than 25%























6/24

http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif

[Droid101]

5th post in the thread already shit on the OP


my goodness :roll:
This is why you're embarrassing yourself.

You already quoted that idiot iggy on page 3. Then again now.

We get it, you're a hopeless stan. No need to repeat yourself.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10173098&postcount=32

[Legends66NBA7]

*raptors fan

*Bulls fan.

[stalkerforlife]

Hey you know what's also 40%?

2/5

LeDAMN. :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Not overrated to me. I know his place. Might be overrated to some depending on their own flawed subjective criteria, yeah. :confusedshrug:

But dat boy Magic Johnson. :bowdown:


Do you see how easy it is to make a GOAT candidate look like a sidekick scrub when you use the same backward ass logic to rate him as you do Kobe.

[red1]

This is why you're embarrassing yourself.

You already quoted that idiot iggy on page 3. Then again now.

We get it, you're a hopeless stan. No need to repeat yourself.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10173098&postcount=32
:kobe: you are too much. keep trying son

[knicksman]

well considering bosh and wade>>>>shaq so looks like he has a record of 2-5 in the finals and 0-5 finals mvps.

[Deuce Bigalow]

better than 25%























6/24

http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif
.714 >>> .400

Kobe's 2010 Finals FG% of .405 is higher than Bran's .400

:oldlol:

[red1]

.714 >>> .400

Kobe's 2010 Finals FG% of .405 is higher than Bran's .400

:oldlol:
ok

[Ne 1]

Kareem was a sidekick for some of those rings. Magic was the engine that made the team run. Straight GOATIN the point guard position.

In 1980 though Kareem lost the FMVP because he got injured. Not because he was a sidekick at the time. :confusedshrug: Actually, Kareem was the real MVP of the 1980 Finals, CBS literally robbed him of the award. Therefor using your criteria, only 2 of Magic's rings are valid. Kareem has 3 rings, Bird only has 2 rings, Shaq has 3 rings, Duncan has 2.5 rings, KG has 0 rings, Dr. J has 0 rings, West has 1 ring due to a technicality of him winning FMVP in a losing effort but his other ring doesn't count since Wilt was the FMVP. Oscar has 0 rings and Russell has about 8-10 rings (Finals MVP didn't exists for most of his tenure, and West was the MVP of the '69 Finals.

[knicksman]

accept it bran stans. Your IQs got exposed this year. LOL at bron being better than kobe. only idiots believe in that sht.

[navy]

Do you see how easy it is to make a GOAT candidate look like a sidekick scrub when you use the same backward ass logic to rate him as you do Kobe.

Only GOAT is Jordan. 6/6 :bowdown:

In all honesty, I dont value rings as much as I do individual on the court production. But if you are gonna bring up rings gotta give context. :confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

This is why you're embarrassing yourself.

You already quoted that idiot iggy on page 3. Then again now.

We get it, you're a hopeless stan. No need to repeat yourself.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10173098&postcount=32


Damn that's embarrassing :oldlol: :oldlol:

[navy]

Actually, Kareem was the real MVP of the 1980 Finals, CBS literally robbed him of the award. Therefor using your criteria, only 2 of Magic's rings are valid. Kareem has 3 rings, Bird only has 2 rings, Shaq has 3 rings, Duncan has 2.5 rings, KG has 0 rings, Dr. J has 0 rings, West has 1 ring due to a technicality of him winning FMVP in a losing effort but his other ring doesn't count since Wilt was the FMVP. Oscar has 0 rings and Russell has about 8-10 rings (Finals MVP didn't exists for most of his tenure, and West was the MVP of the '69 Finals.

Order the numbers you listed.


Solid GOAT list. :bowdown:

[red1]

Damn that's embarrassing :oldlol: :oldlol:
wow I actually got to you. and here I thought you were immune to this shit

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l4nq-K82Kqo/Tz5OLnwW8hI/AAAAAAAAAyg/vVZ3SaAyIJc/s1600/wee-bey-gif.gif

[Legends66NBA7]

Only GOAT is Jordan. 6/6 :bowdown:

In all honesty, I dont value rings as much as I do individual on the court production. But if you are gonna bring up rings gotta give context. :confusedshrug:

This seems to escape a lot of people when they make these threads.

All people need is thorough individual production.

[coin24]

I cant even call him LeGOAT sidekick because he actually makes his hand picked teammates worse..:lol :lol :lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

wow I actually got to you. and here I thought you were immune to this shit

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l4nq-K82Kqo/Tz5OLnwW8hI/AAAAAAAAAyg/vVZ3SaAyIJc/s1600/wee-bey-gif.gif

The only thing you got is embarrassed.

You try so hard to play this light hearted troll an then get exposed for being an attention seeking bran stan

[red1]

The only thing you got is embarrassed.

You try so hard to play this light hearted troll an then get exposed for being an attention seeking bran stan
Bro you are clinging. Desperately clinging.

[navy]

This seems to escape a lot of people when they make these threads.

All people need is thorough individual production.

Yep. If you are going to base your claims on numbers like 5-8 or 2-5 then Im going to do the same.

Want real discussion? Then how about actually starting some without the blatant pre set narratives and idiotic stanning/hating. :confusedshrug:

But this is ISH. Aint nobody got time for that.

[TheMarkMadsen]

This seems to escape a lot of people when they make these threads.

All people need is thorough individual production.


Funny that you say that to a guy trying to discredit for "only" having 2FMVP.

But as soon as I bring up KAJ and his 2/6 FMVP he makes sure to bring up "context"

Hypocritical bastards :roll: :roll:

[Ne 1]

:roll: :roll: :roll: The things Kobetards say in order to help themselves sleep at night. If Kobe was worthy of being a Co-MVP he would have been. Didn't he and Shaq share an All Star game MVP once?
Look at his production during the playoffs those years, especially 2001. He was dropping like 33ppg on the Spurs, 35ppg on the Kings and 25-27ppg on the Sixers. It was far more of a two headed monster in L.A. Than just Shaw and his little Robin aka Kobe Bryant. Yeah, the consensus was that Shaq was the best player in the league back then, but if you're going to try to use that against Kobe, you have to take into account that the consensus was that he was the 2nd best player in the league starting around the '01 postseason. The gap was much larger in 2000, but Kobe was still a top 10 player though. Also, any guard/wing player in the history of the league would have also been the "sidekick" had they played with peak Shaq, so it's not really relevant that Kobe was. Furthermore, last time I checked it wasn't until Kobe developed and became one of the NBA's premier stars that Shaq finally won those elusive rings. Before that he was getting sent home fishing from despite playing with prime Penny and then an All-Star backcourt of Eddie Jones/Nick Van Exel. If "the man" could win without the "sidekick" it would mean something but as we've seen it can't be done so it's a moot point.

[red1]

Funny that you say that to a guy trying to discredit for "only" having 2FMVP.

But as soon as I bring up KAJ and his 2/6 FMVP he makes sure to bring up "context"

Hypocritical bastards :roll: :roll:
you know you are angry when you start attacking legends. :lol calm down it isnt that serious. look at the original post in the thread for some perspective

[Droid101]

"Bro you are clinging" and "Damn I got to you son" are the new "Living in your head rent free" troll anthems.

[Legends66NBA7]

Funny that you say that to a guy trying to discredit for "only" having 2FMVP.

But as soon as I bring up KAJ and his 2/6 FMVP he makes sure to bring up "context"

Hypocritical bastards :roll: :roll:

Wrong poster.

[TheMarkMadsen]

you know you are angry when you start attacking legends. :lol calm down it isnt that serious. look at the original post in the thread for some perspective


I'm not attacking legends you moron.

I was pointing out irony in the post he quoted because of navy's hypocrisy.

Why do you keep quoting me when I'm not talking to you?

Desperate

[TheMarkMadsen]

Wrong poster.


Nooo

I was quoting you because it was ironic that he was talking about context for KAJ but completely dismisses context for Kobe.

[red1]

I'm not attacking legends you moron.

I was pointing out irony in the post he quoted because of navy's hypocrisy.

Why do you keep quoting me when I'm not talking to you?

Desperate
ok. then thats cool. you did misquote after all

[Legends66NBA7]

I'm not attacking legends you moron.

I was pointing out irony in the post he quoted because of navy's hypocrisy.

Why do you keep quoting me when I'm not talking to you?

Desperate

He also said in response to me "It's ISH. Ain't nobody go time for that".

I posted to plowking that I would change my mind in putting out all the context for these games in question. If I wanted to, I could do it for the random players being brought up in this thread too, but it's not the point.

This thread wasn't about context to begin with. It was about bait. The bait won, nicely.

[Ne 1]

Order the numbers you listed.


Solid GOAT list. :bowdown:
Not when you consider plenty of non-elite players have won the FMVP award. :lol

[Magic 32]

http://img.news.sina.com/sports/p/2012/0821/U146P5029T2D498642F24DT20120822090320.JPG
http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxnuilqu91qeifydo5_r1_250.gif

[red1]

"Bro you are clinging" and "Damn I got to you son" are the new "Living in your head rent free" troll anthems.
That was a cling though. How is quoting the same post twice for another posters benefit a bad thing. gotta share the wealth bro. In fact I'll share it one more time :lol


Kobe has 5 titles, 2/5 finals mvps :roll: 1 stolen from gasol

Along with his 1 regular season mvp, hes clearly the goat sidekick.

[Jameerthefear]

red1 ending nikkas :oldlol:

[iggy>]

http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif
Pop is so awesome :applause:

[plowking]

Droid in particular embarrassing himself as usual.

[RedBlackAttack]

http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif
I <3 this gif

[ReturnofJPR]

Sorry, lebron had to carry the garbage cavs to the playoffs every year, he didnt demand a draft day trade to la so he could play alongside one of the most dominant centers of all time .:roll:

That is the biggest myth out there. Those Cleveland teams were really good and had multiple AllStars. They had great rebounding, PG play(which the Heat sorely lack), And excellent three-point shooting.

[navy]

He also said in response to me "It's ISH. Ain't nobody go time for that".

I posted to plowking that I would change my mind in putting out all the context for these games in question. If I wanted to, I could do it for the random players being brought up in this thread too, but it's not the point.

This thread wasn't about context to begin with. It was about bait. The bait won, nicely.
He just doesnt get it. :oldlol:

Let me give him some context. My post were using the same basic logic that Kobe stans used to make this thread and discredit Lebron, I just carried the logic on to Kobe and Kareem.

It should have been obvious as hell that this logic in itself is flawed and wouldnt even be thought about in any serious domain. But this is ISH.

[Warfan]

Droid in particular embarrassing himself as usual.

Im shocked he responds to this many posts since everyone's on ignore list

[Droid101]

Im shocked he responds to this many posts since everyone's on ignore list
Hey I took you off because you have been not-retarded lately. Don't make me re-think that.

[TheMarkMadsen]

He just doesnt get it. :oldlol:

Let me give him some context. My post were using the same basic logic that Kobe stans used to make this thread and discredit Lebron, I just carried the logic on to Kobe and Kareem.

It should have been obvious as hell that this logic in itself is flawed and wouldnt even be thought about in any serious domain. But this is ISH.


Uhh the whole premise of this thread is Lebron has trouble beating good teams

So use that logic on Kobe, what's his record against 50 win teams?

What's his finals record?

Bran stans are the morons trying to discredit players for not having as many FMVP as rings, and they always shut up about that (like you just did) when somebody brings up KAJ.

[Magic 32]

this is a massacre. love it

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e309/InvalidUserID_Larry/georgebushdance.gif

[plowking]

Im shocked he responds to this many posts since everyone's on ignore list

He can't handle people on ISH, so he uses the ignore feature... lol. I'd love to see him in the real world.

You gotta love Droid though. He posts stupid and biased posts all day, then when you post about his hero he calls you out on it despite him spending his time to degrade other players.

[zoom17]

wtf is going on in this thread lol

[Legends66NBA7]

Uhh the whole premise of this thread is Lebron has trouble beating good teams

So use that logic on Kobe, what's his record against 50 win teams?

What's his finals record?

Again, you're not using context whatsoever. LeBron and Kobe aren't names of teams. Those records are credited to the Cavailers, Heat, and Lakers. Just like nobody credits a title to 1 individual player over and entire 15 man roster and coaching staff. Both had far different up bringings when they joined the league. The only context required is their own individual production and roles on those teams.

Nobody has done so in this thread and it probably won't happen considering it's a bait thread that only a select few are trying to take seriously.

[riseagainst]

http://img.news.sina.com/sports/p/2012/0821/U146P5029T2D498642F24DT20120822090320.JPG
http://media.giphy.com/media/TTgdzuXtaN5pMJ94L3W/giphy.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxnuilqu91qeifydo5_r1_250.gif


:roll: :roll: :roll:


what a great sequence of GIFs.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[Legends66NBA7]

wtf is going on in this thread lol

Passive aggressive trolling and nonsense.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Again, you're not using context whatsoever. LeBron and Kobe aren't names of teams. Both had far different up bringings when they joined the league. The only context required is their own individual production and roles on those teams.

Nobody has done so in this thread and it probably won't happen considering it's a bait thread that only a select few are trying to take seriously.


He said he was using the logic of this thread against Kobe.

So I'm asking him how many 50 win teams and what's Kobes finals record since that's the premise of this thread..

[navy]

Uhh the whole premise of this thread is Lebron has trouble beating good teams

So use that logic on Kobe, what's his record against 50 win teams?

What's his finals record?

Bran stans are the morons trying to discredit players for not having as many FMVP as rings, and they always shut up about that (like you just did) when somebody brings up KAJ.
Holy shit are you really this dumb? How about you use your head for a second and stop thinking about Kobe. I was just using the flawed logic that Kobe stans were using and reversed it back in my own way. The amount of basic my post about Kobe presented should have made it obvious I was either trolling or not even worthy of actual debate or discussion if serious.

The premise of this thread is flawed and the original poster didnt even post the correct statistics. Dude flat out cant count or just made up the number. :oldlol: Why would I waste my time discussing this thread if the OP isnt going to debate or discuss honestly.


Lebron 5-8 vs 50 win teams. Kobe 26-8. This clearly shows that Lebron has trouble beating good teams while Kobe excels. ISH man. Never disapoints. Why I come here. :roll:

[ReturnofJPR]

It doesn't matter, Kobe is better than LeBron & everybody knows it. to argue otherwise proves trolling.

[Legends66NBA7]

He said he was using the logic of this thread against Kobe.

Yeah, no shit. It's a bait/troll thread. Glad you've fallen to it too.


So I'm asking him how many 50 win teams and what's Kobes finals record since that's the premise of this thread..

Thing is, not everyone is going to get baited like dummies to the premise of the thread. Some can actually, you know... find out the individual production used in all these games in question ?

Go ahead. State us the individual production used in the games in question.

[red1]

It doesn't matter, Kobe is better than LeBron & everybody knows it. to argue otherwise proves trolling.
this when the I pull out the trump card, the ace, the rabbit in the hat













































kobe is a rapist

[riseagainst]

this when the I pull out the trump card, the ace, the rabbit in the hat













































kobe is a rapist

so kobe is better than lebron, right?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Holy shit are you really this dumb? How about you use your head for a second and stop thinking about Kobe. I was just using the flawed logic that Kobe stans were using and reversed it back in my own way. The amount of basic my post about Kobe presented should have made it obvious I was either trolling or not even worthy of actual debate or discussion if serious.

The premise of this thread is flawed and the original poster didnt even post the correct statistics. Dude flat out cant count or just made up the number. :oldlol: Why would I waste my time discussing this thread if the OP isnt going to debate or discuss honestly.


Lebron 5-8 vs 50 win teams. Kobe 26-8. This clearly shows that Lebron has trouble beating good teams while Kobe excels. ISH man. Never disapoints. Why I come here. :roll:

Thats why you post 30+ times per day?

Okay

[pauk]

No, Brans now in playoffs:

23 Playoff series wins
64% winning percentage
5 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps

compared to say Michael Jordan at same timeframe:

13 Playoff series wins
58% winning percentage
2 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps

[riseagainst]

No, Brans now in playoffs:

23 Playoff series wins
64% winning percentage
5 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps

compared to say Michael Jordan at same timeframe:

13 Playoff series wins
58% winning percentage
2 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps

how many 50 win teams played against?

[navy]

Thats why post 30+ times per day?

Okay

Yes. Why would I not post a lot on a forum I enjoy?

I'll give you a pass on this one though. I can see how you interpreted that statement as me talking bad about the forum. It was really a compliment on the hilarity that can be found here.

[plowking]

how many 50 win teams played against?

How many has Jordan played against and won?

EDIT: Just checked. Jordan, 9-6 after the completing his first 3 peat.

[riseagainst]

How many has Jordan played against and won?

that's what i'm asking.
:confusedshrug:

[Droid101]

No, Brans now in playoffs:

23 Playoff series wins
64% winning percentage
5 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps

compared to say Michael Jordan at same timeframe:

13 Playoff series wins
58% winning percentage
2 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps
pauk... this is your post? Really? You're better than that.

[Legends66NBA7]

Oh god, now Jordan has been brought up. The 3 factions that make ISH have been brought together in this cluster**** of a thread.

:oldlol:

[zoom17]

Oh god, now Jordan has been brought up. The 3 factions that make ISH have been brought together in this cluster**** of a thread.

:oldlol:

:lol

[navy]

Oh god, now Jordan has been brought up. The 3 factions that make ISH have been brought together in this cluster**** of a thread.

:oldlol:

6/6 never fails bruh. Add some context. I dare you.

[RedBlackAttack]

No, Brans now in playoffs:

23 Playoff series wins
64% winning percentage
5 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps

compared to say Michael Jordan at same timeframe:

13 Playoff series wins
58% winning percentage
2 Finals appearances
2 championships
2 fmvps
Same "timeframe." No... not even close to accurate. Same age, you mean?

That ship has sailed. Can we stop comparing James to Jordan for the love of god? It's just not going to work out well for you in the end. Trust me on that.

[The-Legend-24]

Kobe 2/5 FMVP where he gets a ring regardless

Lebron 2/5 rings.


Next.
Ether. :roll:

[russwest0]

5-7 as in 5/12?

[The-Legend-24]

Kobe was a Laker before Shaq :oldlol:
Nikka got ethered twice in a row. :oldlol: :oldlol: