Ford: "Exum workout was a wow I'm told."

[Jameerthefear]

There have been. They've been big fans of Marcus Smart, but I've heard neither of his workouts have been particularly strong. The Exum workout was a wow I'm told. But so was the Noah Vonleh workout. While I don't completely rule out Smart there, I think it will either be Vonleh or Exum. Some of their choice may come down to who they believe will be available to them at 12.
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Fudge]

Nobody cares about who Orlando is taking, you asswipe. Exum's gonna bust harder than I did on your mom and sister last night.

[Jameerthefear]

Also:
JD (Tampa)
If Magic go Exum with 4, who are top 2-3 they would want at 12?

Chad Ford (1:39 PM)
Saric, Stauskas, James Young ...

[Jameerthefear]

Nobody cares about who Orlando is taking, you asswipe. Exum's gonna bust harder than I did on your mom and sister last night.
Don't talk about my sister you f*cking prick.

[longtime lurker]

Nobody cares about who Orlando is taking, you asswipe. Exum's gonna bust harder than I did on your mom and sister last night.

:rockon:

[Jameerthefear]

Chad Ford (1:41 PM)
Napier is getting looks as high as Orlando at 12. Bulls and Celtics are also in the mix for him. So that's not a reach. Hairston is getting looks from Minnesota at 13 on ... so he's not a reach either. LaVine is great if you are swinging for the fences. He has more upside than either Napier or Hairston. But he's risky too.

Also, DE changed their mock draft from Smart to Exum. They were very impressed apparently.

[Cocaine80s]

Chad Ford (1:41 PM)
LaVine is great . He has more upside than either Napier or Hairston.

Interesting

[Mr. Jabbar]

Nobody cares about who Orlando is taking, you asswipe

:roll:

[DukeDelonte13]

:roll:


i lol'ed too...

but i'm very high on exum and think orlando should take him.

[plowking]

Hairston and Shabazz getting looks as high as 12 and 13?

I think this is going to be one of those drafts where guys getting predicted to go in the mid first rounds could end up going in the second round, and guys on the fringe of the first like Hairston and Shabazz get taken mid first.
Wouldn't be surprised to see guys James Young and TJ Warren slip, while KJ McDaniels and others get taken higher.

[Le Shaqtus]

If we take Smart we're idiots, we might as well take Exum I guess.

[lilteapot]

Nobody cares about who Orlando is taking, you asswipe. Exum's gonna bust harder than I did on your mom and sister last night.
cmon son be real, you busted on nothing but your own nut sack

[RedBlackAttack]

Hairston and Shabazz getting looks as high as 12 and 13?

I think this is going to be one of those drafts where guys getting predicted to go in the mid first rounds could end up going in the second round, and guys on the fringe of the first like Hairston and Shabazz get taken mid first.
Wouldn't be surprised to see guys James Young and TJ Warren slip, while KJ McDaniels and others get taken higher.
You're an Aussie... what are your thoughts on Exum?

I feel like I have a good feel for all of the top prospects with the exception of Exum... not sure what to expect.

Tough call between him and Vonleh.

[Jameerthefear]

mod, please delete fudge's bullshit post.

[Rocketswin2013]

Hairston and Shabazz getting looks as high as 12 and 13?

I think this is going to be one of those drafts where guys getting predicted to go in the mid first rounds could end up going in the second round, and guys on the fringe of the first like Hairston and Shabazz get taken mid first.
Wouldn't be surprised to see guys James Young and TJ Warren slip, while KJ McDaniels and others get taken higher.
McDaniels is gonna be unreal on defense. Should go pretty close to the lottery.

[plowking]

You're an Aussie... what are your thoughts on Exum?

I feel like I have a good feel for all of the top prospects with the exception of Exum... not sure what to expect.

Tough call between him and Vonleh.

I actually hadn't seen a lot of him myself, so I took the time to watch all the available games of him, and I think he is overrated as a prospect all up.

He isn't exactly a PG. He will be a SG in the league. As far as his playmaking goes, it isn't at the level most are harping on about. As far as an athlete, he isn't all that explosive but he is very shifty and erratic similar to a Parker or Ginobili. Shot is better than most people say it is, although he is a pretty average to poor free throw shooter.

In all honesty, I see him panning out similar to Manu, although a slightly worse shooter, and not as good a playmaker (although that is no slight, seeing as Manu is probably the best passing SG ever, or at least up there).

[RedBlackAttack]

mod, please delete fudge's bullshit post.
After you went on a trolling spree in all Cavs related threads following the lottery without one deletion? Nah. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

[RedBlackAttack]

I actually hadn't seen a lot of him myself, so I took the time to watch all the available games of him, and I think he is overrated as a prospect all up.

He isn't exactly a PG. He will be a SG in the league. As far as his playmaking goes, it isn't at the level most are harping on about. As far as an athlete, he isn't all that explosive but he is very shifty and erratic similar to a Parker or Ginobili. Shot is better than most people say it is, although he is a pretty average to poor free throw shooter.

In all honesty, I see him panning out similar to Manu, although a slightly worse shooter, and not as good a playmaker (although that is no slight, seeing as Manu is probably the best passing SG ever, or at least up there).
If he's as good as Manu, he deserves to go 4th for sure, if not higher. That will be a tough standard to live up to.

Your analysis over his exact position in the backcourt would be a little worrisome for me, though, if I'm the Magic. They already have one combo guard who isn't a reliable shooter in Oladipo. It seems to me he would be at his best next to a natural PG who can really shoot the ball and playmake.

Also, while Exum's frame is fantastic for a PG, if he's a SG or even a combo, it will be less of an advantage. I don't know... as much as I like lanky, long frames in my backcourt and defensively, I'm not sure I'd be able to pass on Vonleh for such an unknown commodity.

For me, the pick would come down to those two, assuming the top three go Embiid/Parker/Wiggins.

[Combat Wombat]

mod, please delete fudge's bullshit post.

:roll:

You're soft as hell.

Although not nearly as soft as your dick when looking at hot women.

[Jameerthefear]

After you went on a trolling spree in all Cavs related threads following the lottery without one deletion? Nah. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
nice. what a shit mod.

[plowking]

If he's as good as Manu, he deserves to go 4th for sure, if not higher. That will be a tough standard to live up to.

Your analysis over his exact position in the backcourt would be a little worrisome for me, though, if I'm the Magic. They already have one combo guard who isn't a reliable shooter in Oladipo. It seems to me he would be at his best next to a natural PG who can really shoot the ball and playmake.

Also, while Exum's frame is fantastic for a PG, if he's a SG or even a combo, it will be less of an advantage. I don't know... as much as I like lanky, long frames in my backcourt and defensively, I'm not sure I'd be able to pass on Vonleh for such an unknown commodity.

For me, the pick would come down to those two, assuming the top three go Embiid/Parker/Wiggins.

Think of him more as Shaun Livingston in Brooklyn this year. Sure, he can play some point for you, just like a lot of guards do in today's game, but really he is a SG, much like Livingston has slowly progressed into.

[Lord Bean]

:roll:

You're soft as hell.

Although not nearly as soft as your dick when looking at hot women.
have you ever made a post that wasn't some awkward, middle school insult?

[Combat Wombat]

have you ever made a post that wasn't some awkward, middle school insult?

Have you ever made a post that isn't purely about trolling and actually contains something worthy of discussion?

Of course you haven't so go back to your cave.

P.S Whose alt are you, coward?

[Clyde]

:facepalm

Every thread I enter with jameer in it ends up in disaster by the 3rd post.

Lives poeple, go get one.

[IGOTGAME]

I actually hadn't seen a lot of him myself, so I took the time to watch all the available games of him, and I think he is overrated as a prospect all up.

He isn't exactly a PG. He will be a SG in the league. As far as his playmaking goes, it isn't at the level most are harping on about. As far as an athlete, he isn't all that explosive but he is very shifty and erratic similar to a Parker or Ginobili. Shot is better than most people say it is, although he is a pretty average to poor free throw shooter.

In all honesty, I see him panning out similar to Manu, although a slightly worse shooter, and not as good a playmaker (although that is no slight, seeing as Manu is probably the best passing SG ever, or at least up there).

how is he overrated but you expect him to pan out similar to Manu. If someone is telling me that I get Manu Ginobili in this draft then he is going #2 or 3 at worst.

btw...still confused about the hype on Vonleh, someone please explain.

[RedBlackAttack]

how is he overrated but you expect him to pan out similar to Manu. If someone is telling me that I get Manu Ginobili in this draft then he is going #2 or 3 at worst.

btw...still confused about the hype on Vonleh, someone please explain.
Well, he's 6'10 with a 7'4+ wingspan and nice build with good athleticism (37" vert). His wingspan is third in this draft, behind only freak of nature Embiid and 7-footer Isaiah Austin.

Meanwhile, he has range out beyond the three-point line, very rare for a player of his size/build. He's also an excellent natural rebounder.

That isn't to say he doesn't have his flaws. He has virtually no passing game, was a pretty poor finisher and wasn't a great shotblocker in his one year at IU despite all that length. Still, he was able to average nearly a double-double in an incredibly tough conference and is only 18.

He has a lot of upside and that's why he's so intriguing. Obviously, you don't consider him in the Top 3, but after that? He's at least going to be a stretch 4 who can really rebound well with the potential to be much more than that.

He's a pup with big paws.

[Boarder Patrol]

Jameer catching feelings :roll:

[outbreak]

Well, he's 6'10 with a 7'4+ wingspan and nice build with good athleticism (37" vert). His wingspan is third in this draft, behind only freak of nature Embiid and 7-footer Isaiah Austin.

Meanwhile, he has range out beyond the three-point line, very rare for a player of his size/build. He's also an excellent natural rebounder.

That isn't to say he doesn't have his flaws. He has virtually no passing game, was a pretty poor finisher and wasn't a great shotblocker in his one year at IU despite all that length. Still, he was able to average nearly a double-double in an incredibly tough conference and is only 18.

He has a lot of upside and that's why he's so intriguing. Obviously, you don't consider him in the Top 3, but after that? He's at least going to be a stretch 4 who can really rebound well with the potential to be much more than that.

He's a pup with big paws.

I'll be upset if Orlando don't take exum or vonleh. I prefer Exum but if they think Vonleh is better I'd trust them. I hear Vonleh seems like a great kid who puts in work as well.

[Combat Wombat]

how is he overrated but you expect him to pan out similar to Manu. If someone is telling me that I get Manu Ginobili in this draft then he is going #2 or 3 at worst.

btw...still confused about the hype on Vonleh, someone please explain.

Very good defender
Huge wingspan
Can spread the floor
Very good rebounder
Has more post moves than D12 (not saying much, I know)

Big potential.

[Lord Bean]

Have you ever made a post that isn't purely about trolling and actually contains something worthy of discussion?

Of course you haven't so go back to your cave.

P.S Whose alt are you, coward?
Yeah I actually have. i usually lurk and don't post much but everything i see from you is just dumb insults that are usually related to incest or virginity. would it kill you to not sound like a constantly angry 12 year old?

[outbreak]

Yeah I actually have. i usually lurk and don't post much but everything i see from you is just dumb insults that are usually related to incest or virginity. would it kill you to not sound like a constantly angry 12 year old?
well he's named after a homosexual australian hip hop group yet calls everyone a *** and homo so he's not that intelligent.

[Combat Wombat]

Yeah I actually have. i usually lurk and don't post much but everything i see from you is just dumb insults that are usually related to incest or virginity. would it kill you to not sound like a constantly angry 12 year old?

Really? Which post would that be?

The one where you thought a washed-up, injured Pau Gasol would be a good deal for Eric Bledsoe and Goran Dragic?

You're a Lakers troll. You have the credibility and intelligence of a retarded goldfish.

Regarding your other point, I treat trolls like Jameer the way they should be: like scum.

Now run along and go make a few more ridiculous trade scenarios.

[BlackVVaves]

:hammerhead:

[GimmeThat]

Hairston and Shabazz getting looks as high as 12 and 13?

I think this is going to be one of those drafts where guys getting predicted to go in the mid first rounds could end up going in the second round, and guys on the fringe of the first like Hairston and Shabazz get taken mid first.
Wouldn't be surprised to see guys James Young and TJ Warren slip, while KJ McDaniels and others get taken higher.


I agree.

I think chances are that many teams haven't had the chance to fully do their homework because everything depends on so much with how the top plays out. Which what happens with that is you might throw away the "best talent" criteria, but instead the one where it fits your need the most, or safe role player pick that won't get you fired etc, or vice versa.

sounds like intense FA action happening all in one night doesn't it. Only without knowing how each player will even pan out, which generally means less hype.

[BIG FURB]

Don't talk about my sister you f*cking prick.

Kind of a strong reaction over some light internet trash talking, touchy subject for you man?

[Xoush]

Nobody cares about who Orlando is taking, you asswipe. Exum's gonna bust harder than I did on your mom and sister last night.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[COnDEMnED]

Don't talk about my sister you f*cking prick.
Weakness exposed. Never a good idea to reveal your kryptonite to strangers, particularly ones you've been trolling.

[Jailblazers7]

All picks slide up a spot and Philly lands Wiggins. Jameer might end up on suicide watch if they take Embiid and he busts due to injury.

[KG215]

how is he overrated but you expect him to pan out similar to Manu. If someone is telling me that I get Manu Ginobili in this draft then he is going #2 or 3 at worst.

btw...still confused about the hype on Vonleh, someone please explain.
I remember back when college basketball season was still going on, and I'd occasionally check mock drafts, I'd see Vonleh in the top 5 or top 10. It was a little confusing simply because he got virtually got zero hype/attention compared to the other "big name" freshman like Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, and Randle. Of course Indiana wasn't that good this year, but I couldn't ever figure out how or why he was so highly touted. Of course I had it in my head most of the season that he was a 6-7"-6'8" tweener forward because that's what I remember reading/hearing about him on UNC boards awhile back when UNC was recruiting him and thought they might have a chance at him. I wasn't aware that he was a legit 6'8" without shoes and a near 7'5" wingspan. And it's not like averaging 11 and 9, even as a freshman, is eye-popping.

But yeah, the more I read about him and the more tape I see (mostly highlight tapes which I take with a grain of salt), the more I get the hype surrounding him. I think his back to the basket game is still pretty raw, but he does have the potential to develop into a good floor-stretching PF with a solid post game.

[smoovegittar]

:facepalm

Every thread I enter with jameer in it ends up in disaster by the 3rd post.

Lives poeple, go get one.
If the kid wasn't a class "A" douchebag and respected other's opinions, he might get treated differently. And if pigs could fly...

oh - spellcheck, buddy - go get one.