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Smook A.
06-19-2014, 12:42 AM
[QUOTE]Kevin Durant is going to come back a better player next season.

The NBA

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 12:45 AM
How is that not true? If he had a back to the basket game, they probably would have won a ring.

navy
06-19-2014, 12:47 AM
He should.

NumberSix
06-19-2014, 12:48 AM
Looking like a flimsy bitch is the signature of KD's game. If he bulks up, that's gonna cut his phantom FTAs in half.

Rodmantheman
06-19-2014, 12:50 AM
I think KD will be thin for a long time that just how his body is built.

Smook A.
06-19-2014, 12:50 AM
How is that not true? If he had a back to the basket game, they probably would have won a ring.
KD needs to get that Ray Allen body.

Ray Ray from the Bucks and Sonics wasn't bulky but he had muscles.

http://i.imgur.com/G3wzEz3.jpg

russwest0
06-19-2014, 12:52 AM
Kendrick Perkins :applause: :applause: :applause:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHn31J8d2w#t=95

Natureland
06-19-2014, 12:52 AM
Perk with his greatest contribution of the season. :bowdown:

RidonKs
06-19-2014, 12:53 AM
did dirk bulk up in any significant way in the years between 06 and 11? or did he just learn to use his body better?

i remember him getting constantly pushed out of the paint by point guards on switches and everybody on this site having his head for it. and kd was the exact same against tony allen and then when paul guarded him on those few occasions... really took him out of his comfort zone by bodying up and intimidating his handle.

russwest0
06-19-2014, 12:53 AM
But the whole idea that he was tired because he doesn't have more muscle is dumb as hell.

He played 43 minutes per game in the playoffs. Compare that to someone like LeBron who only played 38 minutes per game.

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 12:54 AM
KD needs to get that Ray Allen body.

Ray Ray from the Bucks and Sonics wasn't bulky but he had muscles.

http://i.imgur.com/G3wzEz3.jpg
Prime ray :bowdown: http://i.imgur.com/c4mOTtq.gif

Eye test like crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofxkO-E7pY

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 12:56 AM
But the whole idea that he was tired because he doesn't have more muscle is dumb as hell.


At the same time, muscle will help him against a physical team like the Grizzlies. I think the Grizz series wore him out a little bit and he started to look a little gassed at the end of the WCF.

LeBron/Durant minute comparison isn't really a good one since LeBron has gone to the finals 4 times in a row... he has a lot more overall minutes

Done_And_Done
06-19-2014, 12:57 AM
Perk is right but within reason. I'm sure packing on 10-12 pounds of muscle would do him well but I don't think he needs to overdue it.

no pun intended
06-19-2014, 01:00 AM
KD needs to get that Ray Allen body.

Ray Ray from the Bucks and Sonics wasn't bulky but he had muscles.

http://i.imgur.com/G3wzEz3.jpg
http://rumorfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/ray-allen.jpg

http://www.grafxhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ray-allen-shirtless-.jpg

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/gallery/ray-allen-shirtless/ray-allen-at-w-hotel3.jpg

russwest0
06-19-2014, 01:01 AM
At the same time, muscle will help him against a physical team like the Grizzlies. I think the Grizz series wore him out a little bit and he started to look a little gassed at the end of the WCF.

LeBron/Durant minute comparison isn't really a good one since LeBron has gone to the finals 4 times in a row... he has a lot more overall minutes

lol and durant has gone on deep playoff runs 4 years in a row as well, don't tell me that playing 5-6 more games each year makes that big of a difference when KD probably plays way more ball in the summer.

I'm just saying Brooks needs to learn how to not ride his star into the ground. We saw well rested Durant in the middle of the regular season and he was demolishing teams and unstoppable. Easily the best player in the league.

But late in the year Brooks rode him so much into the ground. Even playing him like 45 minutes the final game of the season. This was all while Thabo and Perk were out, Westbrook was missing some games, and KD was in a shooting slump.

In the playoffs we saw multiple possessions where KD stood in the corner with his hands down on his knees hunched over looking gassed. The problem is that I've never once seen Durant ask to come out of the game in his career so we know he isn't going to do that so we need a coach who won't abuse it.

ABfor3
06-19-2014, 01:02 AM
Durant would be so much more scarier if he put on muscle, I've always said he needed to put on weight coming out of UT.

AintNoSunshine
06-19-2014, 01:02 AM
Being a scrawny kid is part of his FT game, Perkins needs to hit the retirement home

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 01:05 AM
http://rumorfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/ray-allen.jpg

http://www.grafxhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ray-allen-shirtless-.jpg

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/gallery/ray-allen-shirtless/ray-allen-at-w-hotel3.jpg
Damn come on bro. I normally don't fap till before bed :rant

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 01:10 AM
lol and durant has gone on deep playoff runs 4 years in a row as well, don't tell me that playing 5-6 more games each year makes that big of a difference when KD probably plays way more ball in the summer.

I'm just saying Brooks needs to learn how to not ride his star into the ground. We saw well rested Durant in the middle of the regular season and he was demolishing teams and unstoppable. Easily the best player in the league.

But late in the year Brooks rode him so much into the ground. Even playing him like 45 minutes the final game of the season. This was all while Thabo and Perk were out, Westbrook was missing some games, and KD was in a shooting slump.

In the playoffs we saw multiple possessions where KD stood in the corner with his hands down on his knees hunched over looking gassed. The problem is that I've never once seen Durant ask to come out of the game in his career so we know he isn't going to do that so we need a coach who won't abuse it.
Deeper runs are absolutely a factor. We're talking 3628 minutes vs. 2859 minutes in the playoffs the last 4 years. Durant's played 78% of the minutes LeBron has in the playoffs

Keno
06-19-2014, 01:12 AM
lmao at being called out by the worst player on your team. pretty sad on durant's part.

russwest0
06-19-2014, 01:14 AM
I still lol @ presti justifying bringing him back because of that putback he had vs the grizzlies simply because memphis refused to guard him on the final play and westbrook bricked the shot at the right angle.

it's stupid how much dead weight we force our stars to carry

Keno
06-19-2014, 01:15 AM
But the whole idea that he was tired because he doesn't have more muscle is dumb as hell.

He played 43 minutes per game in the playoffs. Compare that to someone like LeBron who only played 38 minutes per game.

lmao what a terrible excuse. lebron avg 43 minutes per game in 2012 and they won the championship. lebron played 47 minutes per game in his 1st playoff appearance, stop with the excuses.

Smook A.
06-19-2014, 01:15 AM
Durant would be so much more scarier if he put on muscle, I've always said he needed to put on weight coming out of UT.
Skinny Durant averages 32

Imagine a stronger Durant. Too nasty

oh the horror
06-19-2014, 01:16 AM
What he's saying is right.

I've seen KD front small players when he should be backing them in the post. He's tall as shit. Muscle will help down there.

russwest0
06-19-2014, 01:18 AM
lmao what a terrible excuse. lebron avg 43 minutes per game in 2012 and they won the championship. lebron played 47 minutes per game in his 1st playoff appearance, stop with the excuses.

lol it was all coming out before the playoffs even started on how a player hasn't played 3000+ minutes in the regular season and won the chip before in a long ass time.

Brooks kept maintaining that he "wasn't concerned" about stats like that but in the exit interviews he got pelted with questions like that and said one of his usual stupid responses like "I'll have to look into it"

Swaggin916
06-19-2014, 01:18 AM
In terms of his lower body and core? Sure. Adding too much weight up top would be counterproductive.

Rose'sACL
06-19-2014, 01:22 AM
He doesn't need to gain much weight. He needs a better coach just like Spo either needs to improve or Miami should hire a better coach if bosh/lebron stay.

NumberSix
06-19-2014, 01:23 AM
Skinny Durant averages 32

Imagine a stronger Durant. Too nasty
His sympathy free throw attempts would go way down, so he would be something like 23 ppg on 43% shooting

russwest0
06-19-2014, 01:24 AM
He doesn't need to gain much weight. He needs a better coach just like Spo either needs to improve or Miami should hire a better coach if bosh/lebron stay.

Spo still made a big leap after they lost the finals in 2011.

Something that it appears Brooks will never do.

played0ut
06-19-2014, 01:44 AM
But the whole idea that he was tired because he doesn't have more muscle is dumb as hell.

He played 43 minutes per game in the playoffs. Compare that to someone like LeBron who only played 38 minutes per game.


He isn't tired because he doesn't have more muscle.

But having muscle will help him get tired less often. It'll build up some serious stamina with the right aerobic/anaerobic training.



My stamina went through the roof back when I trained 4-5 days a week (not body building). I would recover from strenuous physical exertions within seconds too compared to before. e.g, a 50 meter sprint would take me a minute to recover from compared to 3 minutes to recover before.


My post isn't about the heavy minute comparison or anything. This is about serious cardiovascular/muscular benefits of working out. I can't applaud it enough. :applause: :applause:

GimmeThat
06-19-2014, 01:48 AM
people gets frustrated when their team don't make it to the finals
especially when the guy just called out the FMVP and received national attention over it.

I won't be surprised if Durant start hitting up the weight room later on in his career to become even more versatile.

Should he start hitting up the weightroom now?

Is Brooks going to start cutting his time on the court?

RidonKs
06-19-2014, 01:49 AM
He isn't tired because he doesn't have more muscle.

But having muscle will help him get tired less often
:facepalm

played0ut
06-19-2014, 02:00 AM
:facepalm

It's not that complicated, sweetheart.



He's tired because he's playing 40 minutes.

If he gains muscles, he'll less likely be as tired after playing 40 min.

Paul George 24
06-19-2014, 02:19 AM
How is that not true? If he had a back to the basket game, they probably would have won a ring.

his defence will be even worse than he is now

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 02:20 AM
his defence will be even worse than he is now
If he had muscle, he could actually defend PFs w/ his height, and defend LeBron in the post

Paul George 24
06-19-2014, 02:22 AM
If he had muscle, he could actually defend PFs w/ his height, and defend LeBron in the post

he won't............he lack of defensive skills & slow feet,his defence will only go worse

Rooster
06-19-2014, 02:23 AM
people gets frustrated when their team don't make it to the finals
especially when the guy just called out the FMVP and received national attention over it.

I won't be surprised if Durant start hitting up the weight room later on in his career to become even more versatile.

Should he start hitting up the weightroom now?

Is Brooks going to start cutting his time on the court?

It's funny that before the draft, KD was rumored that he can only weightlift 185 max and critics says he can't probably take hits if he goes to the hole but KD took them well. If he need to add post moves to his arsenal than he might need to lift weight and get stronger.

J Shuttlesworth
06-19-2014, 02:24 AM
he won't............he lack of defensive skills & slow feet,his defence will only go worse
Well you have a point... He needs to work on his defense. If he does, and gains some weight, he could be a decent threat down low

GimmeThat
06-19-2014, 02:37 AM
He's tired because he's playing 40 minutes.

If he gains muscles, he'll less likely be as tired after playing 40 min.


But more tired before he even starts playing the game, right?

unless you are saying he's going to lift weight ON TOP of his current practice regime.

GimmeThat
06-19-2014, 02:44 AM
It's funny that before the draft, KD was rumored that he can only weightlift 185 max and critics says he can't probably take hits if he goes to the hole but KD took them well. If he need to add post moves to his arsenal than he might need to lift weight and get stronger.

well, going to the hole/driving to the basket is all a motion in play. As for taking hits, I think that's a mental toughness issue, it shows that he isn't AFRAID of taking the hits when he has the ball in his hand and he's not committing an offensive foul.

Once you slow down the game, while strength might become an issue, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts developing his post move with plays that help him draw fouls, which can really open up the game for someone who just might not be strong enough for the some of the traditional banging backward post move.

Meticode
06-19-2014, 02:45 AM
Durant should not probably listen to a player who just wont the Shaqtin' A Fool MVP for this past season.

ProfessorMurder
06-19-2014, 02:52 AM
Say what you will about Perk as a player, but he usually spits truth.

Durant definitely needs to bulk up some.

All Net
06-19-2014, 05:49 AM
Durant is 25

He will find ways to improve

step_back
06-19-2014, 06:04 AM
I think KD will be thin for a long time that just how his body is built.

This,

KD doesn't have the build to bulk up. Sure he could get stronger but he would reach his limit very quickly and I don't see how adding another 10-12 lbs would really change his post up ability. He'd still be a lot lighter than most players at his position.

GimmeThat
06-19-2014, 06:13 AM
This,

KD doesn't have the build to bulk up. Sure he could get stronger but he would reach his limit very quickly and I don't see how adding another 10-12 lbs would really change his post up ability. He'd still be a lot lighter than most players at his position.


I think we're back to the point where Perk said he should hit the weightroom not so he can change his post up ability, but so when he gets tired, his muscle won't be as tired.

Marlo_Stanfield
06-19-2014, 06:19 AM
KD either has to play like Dirk or bulk the fukk up.
cant expect the refs to give his skinny ass so many undeserved 'FT every season:confusedshrug:

sportjames23
06-19-2014, 06:29 AM
Perk with dat real talk.

iznogood
06-19-2014, 08:58 AM
That's pretty stupid, it's not like KD hasn't been lifting weights all this time. He put on quite a lot of mass in the last couple of years, just compare this year's pictures to older ones. He won't be able to put on a lot more because his body type is not suited to.

Smook A.
06-19-2014, 09:44 AM
KD either has to play like Dirk or bulk the fukk up.
cant expect the refs to give his skinny ass so many undeserved 'FT every season:confusedshrug:
KD already does play like Dirk. In fact, Kevin Durant had a better season than any of the one's Dirk has had.

Rubio2Gasol
06-19-2014, 10:09 AM
I think his problem is:

A: He's a gym rat - you can see it, he lives to put up shots. You can't bulk up properly without cutting down that aspect of your training.

B: He's scared extra muscle is going to affect his shot, it's a legitimate concern.

bagelred
06-19-2014, 10:21 AM
Shots fired!

Is that alpha or beta?

Smook A.
06-19-2014, 10:40 AM
Shots fired!

Is that alpha or beta?
Both

Alpha because he wants his teammate to improve

Beta because he, Kendrick Perkins, is telling someone to improve their game :lol

SOD 21
06-19-2014, 10:58 AM
Obviously Kendrick Perkins is right.

Kevin Durant gets stripped of the ball too often, more so in the playoffs when more physical contact is allowed, and isn't able to exploit mismatches when guarded by smaller players in the post.

He must get stronger because he can't allow himself to get guarded by Chris Paul or Tony Allen 30 feet from the basket and not punish them in the post. He should have been insulted that San Antonio move their best perimeter defender in Leonard over to Russell Westbrook while he was being guarded by players like Danny Green and Manu.

Get stronger and punish those smaller players in the post.

deja vu
06-19-2014, 10:59 AM
KD needs to hire that BALCO guy Herrera or whatever his name is. :lol