Englishmen...were American fans right about you nation.....

[9erempiree]

Were we right about your crappy underachieving National soccer team?

We warned you, actually I warned you guys that your team will not win one single game and would be eliminated in the tournament again.

Also, like I said, the balance of power in the soccer world has shifted to the Western Hemisphere.

ONE NATION ONE TEAM. USA

[plowking]

They haven't been eliminated yet.

[Le Shaqtus]

They haven't been eliminated yet.

We will be :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

We will be :oldlol:

You are a real Englishmen. Admitting defeat. I respect you.

[B-hoop]

Don't worry the USA will also be eliminated in the groups phase.

[kurple]

RagaZ or all englishmen?

[steve franchise]

They're hurting enough already, 9er. Let it end.

[Le Shaqtus]

I still got the US :banana:

[9erempiree]

Don't worry the USA will also be eliminated in the groups phase.

I normally don't look at the knockout stage schedule during group play but I am already scouting for our next opponent.

[MavsSuperFan]

when it comes to soccer the USA national team>>>English national team

[ballinhun8]

Shut up OP.


You're a moron.

[travelingman]

So much jingoism in recent US Soccer threads. Ignorance levels rising to an annoying level.

[Le Shaqtus]

Besides I didn't see any US fans talk shit about England besides Nick Young, but he's full of shit anyway.

But I don't read the football threads so I'm probably missing a few people.

[travelingman]

when it comes to soccer the USA national team>>>English national team

Form a squad from a pool consisting of all players eligible to compete for the England national team and all players eligible to suit up for the USMNT. What would it look like?

[step_back]

Besides I didn't see any US fans talk shit about England besides Nick Young, but he's full of shit anyway.

But I don't read the football threads so I'm probably missing a few people.

There are a few posters like Jasi and Alonmessi who post some good stuff. The majority are trolls who don't actually know or care about the World Cup.

[B-hoop]

There are a few posters like Jasi and Alonmessi who post some good stuff. The majority are trolls who don't actually know or care about the World Cup.

Not true, i only see 9er, Nick Young and Ragaz trolling. The rest of the guys posting are pretty cool.

[step_back]

Not true, i only see 9er, Nick Young and Ragaz trolling. The rest of the guys posting are pretty cool.

I'm specifically referring to the group D thread. Most of the people are just trying to piss of English/Euro posters.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

England are trash because of their coach.
USA are trash because of their players.
gotta give credit to USA for eventually reaching the 1/8 stage with crap players tho

[Akrazotile]

I'm specifically referring to the group D thread. Most of the people are just trying to piss of English/Euro posters.


Go cry in your pint, fakkit. :cry:

[B-hoop]

I'm specifically referring to the group D thread. Most of the people are just trying to piss of English/Euro posters.

I really don't see the big problem, unless its like 9er with outlandish claims, but some jeering is expected. After all England did suck even though they have a good team, kinda like they always do :lol and Costa Rica did defeat Italy.

This is what football is all about.

[9erempiree]

You don't need to watch soccer to know that England is not good at it.

Heck, soccer isn't the most popular in the States but we are still better than them.

I don't know why people insist England is better than USA.

Most casual fans already see us as the better nation in football.

[KobesFinger]

IMO the problem with English football is the mentality. This is three-fold: the mentality of the media and fans, the mentality of the stars and the mentality of the young prospects.

The media and fans pile on tons of pressure before each WC and Euros, expecting them to make the quarters or semis at minimum while ignoring the facts. The facts being that we are not a top 5 team in Europe right now, so us making the quarter final of a competition is an achievement in itself. When the team inevitably doesn't make the quarters or semis, they get absolutely shit on for not living up to a standard.

The star players can't handle this pressure. Steven Gerrard doesn't age when playing for Liverpool but is rarely anything more than decent for England. Rooney is unplayable at times for United but again doesn't look the same for England. Ask any England fan, they'll tell you only Ashley Cole has looked the same player for club as he has for country in recent years. Pretty sad that a team filled with "world class" players only has one player who plays like he's world class.

The stars still get picked regardless because of their name, or having had one decent season or run of form for his club. This impacts the young players because they don't get the experience of playing meaningful internationals until they're in their mid 20s or later. Michael Dawson and Stephen Warnock had 1 cap between them and were 26 and 28 respectively in the 2010 WC.

The young players don't want to go abroad for more opportunities. Most young players with a lot of potential go abroad. Messi played in Spain, Cristiano Ronaldo played in England, Ronaldo played in Spain and Italy, Ronaldinho played in France and Spain and Pogba played in England and now Italy. Rooney is the only player in the England squad who was as highly touted as they were who played in his native country. When foreign young players in England show more hunger and potential, they get picked ahead of the English players. Rather than go to other leagues to gain experience and improve, they stay and expect to be picked and instead fester. Its especially bad at super teams like Chelsea and now City.

Add in a lower technical ability than their international counterparts and there you have it, in my opinion of course. The lack of technical ability goes down to grass roots. Sunday League football is all about long ball, crossing and strong tackles. If you've ever played, then you're no doubt familiar with the phrase, "well in son". We need players who can pass, can keep possession under pressure, are good decision makers and have good awareness.

TL;DR - too much pressure from fans, stars not playing like stars, youngsters are arrogant and until we improve childrens football, we won't be as good as we think we are.

[Balla_Status]

If USA goes through then there should be absolutely nothing wrong with saying USA > England. Finished ahead of England in 2010 WC as well. Results > reputation

(Inb4eurodickheads)

[B-hoop]

The young players don't want to go abroad for more opportunities. Most young players with a lot of potential go abroad. Messi played in Spain, Cristiano Ronaldo played in England, Ronaldo played in Spain and Italy, Ronaldinho played in France and Spain and Pogba played in England and now Italy. Rooney is the only player in the England squad who was as highly touted as they were who played in his native country. When foreign young players in England show more hunger and potential, they get picked ahead of the English players. Rather than go to other leagues to gain experience and improve, they stay and expect to be picked and instead fester. Its especially bad at super teams like Chelsea and now City.


I think this is their biggest problem, PL became too rich for its own good, there is a lot of talent from other countries and not enough development of national talent. In most countries the national talent is developed internally before they are exported to teams in other countries.

[step_back]

Go cry in your pint, fakkit. :cry:

I really hope you kill yourself next time you have a meltdown.

[steve franchise]

I really hope you kill yourself next time you have a meltdown.

:lol

calm down guys. is just a game.

[Shade8780]

This forum is a complete shithole. OTC has been ruined by these annoying rednecks who think the US team can win the World Cup.

[Balla_Status]

This forum is a complete shithole. OTC has been ruined by these annoying rednecks who think the US team can win the World Cup.

And European dickheads who can't give USA credit where credit is due.

"This team is in Europe so that must mean they're good."

****ing pikeys.

[KingBeasley08]

This forum is a complete shithole. OTC has been ruined by these annoying rednecks who think the US team can win the World Cup.
With how well America is playing, I think you're just salty. My boi Young Sushi was calling Joel Campbell's domination but all Euros kept underrating him. Underrated the US at your own will but USA is easily better than England. We got ice blood in our veins and England are big chokers

For me, I believe that we will win

#IBelieveThatWeWillWin

[Shade8780]

And European dickheads who can't give USA credit where credit is due.

"This team is in Europe so that must mean they're good."

****ing pikeys.
Are you serious? :roll:

USA won one ****ing game, and against Ghana! The real fans that should be cocky are the Germans who beat Portugal 4-0, the Netherlands beating Spain 5-1, France who have dominated in both of their games so far, but instead, they're all quiet, and you Americans are telling the whole ****ing world how you won one game without the GOAT footballer, Landon Donovan.

I'm pretty sure I'm giving American teams credit when I have Neymar in my avy, think Argentina will win the World Cup, have called Chile the underdogs since the start and think Uruguay and Colombia are great teams, but the US aren't very good.

http://dwi.balloonicorn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/sloth.gif

[KingBeasley08]

^ And that's what separates the US from other countries. Look at your mentality. That's probably how you think of Ireland which is why the team has never overachieved. People think I'm trolling when I say the USA has superior mentality but that should be proof right here.

[Balla_Status]

Are you serious? :roll:

USA won one ****ing game, and against Ghana! The real fans that should be cocky are the Germans who beat Portugal 4-0, the Netherlands beating Spain 5-1, France who have dominated in both of their games so far, but instead, they're all quiet, and you Americans are telling the whole ****ing world how you won one game without the GOAT footballer, Landon Donovan.

I'm pretty sure I'm giving American teams credit when I have Neymar in my avy, think Argentina will win the World Cup, have called Chile the underdogs since the start and think Uruguay and Colombia are great teams, but the US aren't very good.

http://dwi.balloonicorn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/sloth.gif

You predict USA to lose to Ghana and then once they win? It's just Ghana! I knew USA was going to win the entire time. **** outta here. Shit goes both ways.

[Shade8780]

^ And that's what separates the US from other countries. Look at your mentality. That's probably how you think of Ireland which is why the team has never overachieved. People think I'm trolling when I say the USA has superior mentality but that should be proof right here.
You new to football or something? Furthest the US have gotten in the last 80 years is the Quarter-Finals. Furthest Ireland have gotten in the last 80 years is the Quarter-Finals. You're fans don't have to be cocky dumbasses to do well in the World Cup, believe it or not.

[Shade8780]

You predict USA to lose to Ghana and then once they win? It's just Ghana! I knew USA was going to win the entire time. **** outta here. Shit goes both ways.
I also predicted Spain to beat Netherlands, where the Netherlands fans at!

[9erempiree]

Best finish was 3rd place in the World Cup for us.

[Shade8780]

Best finish was 3rd place in the World Cup for us.
In 19 ****ing 30. You sound like Liverpool fans on crack with this living in the past. I said last 80 years too. 2014 - 80 = 1934.

[Balla_Status]

I also predicted Spain to beat Netherlands, where the Netherlands fans at!

Makes you look like a jackass. (Which you are.)

[Shade8780]

Makes you look like a jackass. (Which you are.)
2 wrong predictions = Jackass?

You're clearly a newbie to football, Spain had a much better squad, they've played shit this World Cup though. Spain were easily favourites to beat Netherlands.

[Balla_Status]

2 wrong predictions = Jackass?

You're clearly a newbie to football, Spain had a much better squad, they've played shit this World Cup though. Spain were easily favourites to beat Netherlands.

That's not the jackass part. Talking shit about the USA, predicting a loss and then after a USA win, saying its not a big deal and not giving USA credit for the win. If it was expected for them to win as it's just Ghana, you would've predicted so in the first place.

[Shade8780]

That's not the jackass part. Talking shit about the USA, predicting a loss and then after a USA win, saying its not a big deal and not giving USA credit for the win. If it was expected for them to win as it's just Ghana, you would've predicted so in the first place.
I didn't say I wouldn't give them credit for the win. They proved me wrong, so well done to them. It just isn't as earth shattering as some guys on here make it out to be. The real test is Portugal and Germany. Well, maybe just Germany looking at how Portugal played the other day. If USA beat them, then I'd be the dumbass, but the chances of that happening are very little.

Anyone wanna avy bet they don't get past the round of 16? I offered one before the World Cup to 9er, but he didn't reply. I wonder why.....

[Ratnik]

Most of the Americans have english blood tho :coleman:

[KingBeasley08]

You new to football or something? Furthest the US have gotten in the last 80 years is the Quarter-Finals. Furthest Ireland have gotten in the last 80 years is the Quarter-Finals. You're fans don't have to be cocky dumbasses to do well in the World Cup, believe it or not.
So the US who didn't give two shits about soccer till the 90s has done as well as a European country who lives and dies about the game :bowdown: :bowdown:

#IBelieveThatWeWillWin

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Shade just butthurt because someone stole his lucky charms. :cry:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Murica **** in this thread are pretty pathetic
well finally they are recognizing soccer as a sport:roll: :roll:

[Shade8780]

So the US who didn't give two shits about soccer till the 90s has done as well as a European country who lives and dies about the game :bowdown: :bowdown:

#IBelieveThatWeWillWin
Our rugby team is much better than the football team, and we have national sports just as popular here as the NFL and MLB is in the US with Gaelic football and hurling.

Saying we live and die for football is like saying USA live and die for it.

#IBelieveYou'reADumbass

[Shade8780]

Shade just butthurt because someone stole his lucky charms. :cry:
I've had Lucky Charms once in my life when my dad came back from USA, and they tasted like shit.

[Shade8780]

Yet again, you guys ***** out of the avy bet.

[KingBeasley08]

Our rugby team is much better than the football team, and we have national sports just as popular here as the NFL and MLB is in the US with Gaelic football and hurling.

Saying we live and die for football is like saying USA live and die for it.

#IBelieveYou'reADumbass
Gaelic football and hurling :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Le Shaqtus]

I could probably guarantee no one in Florida would know what Gaelic football is, no offense of course :lol

[Genaro]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-bq-wCxuZKNQ/U6TIV2xsO1I/AAAAAAAAD6g/iArVFkk3E-c/h720/inglaterranao.gif

[steve franchise]

lol @ shade getting all butt hurt because CONCACAF keeps dominating the tournament.

Costa Rica, U.S, and Mexico are 4-1-0

You madd bro? How dem tears taste?

[Charlie Sheen]

i saw my mate the other day, nd he said to me he saw the white pele... and i asked who is he.. he said he goes by the name of wayne rooney
:lol

[Nick Young]

Costa Rica, the team where Hart didn't even know where they qualified from and who Hodgson didnt even bother briefing them about pre-tournament now look like favorites to win the group.

American justice. Maybe they will finally learn to stop underrating American footballers.:rockon:

[9erempiree]

Here is Joe Hart....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFHnX3_6RQ

[9erempiree]

Form a squad from a pool consisting of all players eligible to compete for the England national team and all players eligible to suit up for the USMNT. What would it look like?

We would beat them. That I am sure of. We're a pretty tough and nasty team. Grind it out.

[9erempiree]

A lot of hate and butthurt Englishmen and wanna-be ones too.

They drinking my urine as tea.

:cheers:

[Nick Young]

Yet again, you guys ***** out of the avy bet.
you are irish, wtf is wrong with you defending the english like this?? You're like an Irish version of an Uncle Tom. You're supposed to laugh along with us at their misery, and if anything lead the mockery! Instead, you act like one of them:facepalm

Never forget what the English did to your people over the years.

[Nick Young]

Besides I didn't see any US fans talk shit about England besides Nick Young, but he's full of shit anyway.

But I don't read the football threads so I'm probably missing a few people.
full of shit aka all my predictions about England have come true so far and my final prediction of England finishing the world cup with 0 points is about to come true in a few days?

How can I be full of shit if everything I've said-from Rooney being useless, to Gerrard being a choker and past it, to Baines not being good enough and getting exposed vs Italy-has turned out to be correct?

All of you euros were saying Costa Rica was an easy 3 points and would be lucky to even finish with one point-I was backing them from the beginning. Now look. Leading the group.

CONCACAF SUCKS DOE-lol CONCACAF has the best record of any region at this world cup XD


The only people full of shit here are the ones who honestly believed England had a chance.

Listen to Gerrard's words: "we deserved more then two losses with the way we played"

What a loser attitude. no one 'deserves' anything unless they earn it. That is the loser attitude of your own captain!:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Le Shaqtus]

full of shit aka all my predictions about England have come true so far and my final prediction of England finishing the world cup with 0 points is about to come true in a few days?

How can I be full of shit if everything I've said-from Rooney being useless, to Gerrard being a choker and past it, to Baines not being good enough and getting exposed vs Italy-has turned out to be correct?

All of you euros were saying Costa Rica was an easy 3 points and would be lucky to even finish with one point-I was backing them from the beginning. Now look. Leading the group.

CONCACAF SUCKS DOE-lol CONCACAF has the best record of any region at this world cup XD


The only people full of shit here are the ones who honestly believed England had a chance.

Listen to Gerrard's words: "we deserved more then two losses with the way we played"

What a loser attitude. no one 'deserves' anything unless they earn it. That is the loser attitude of your own captain!:roll: :roll: :roll:

Everything you've said about the England team is true, I'm not denying it, they blow ass.

That still doesn't mean I don't think you're a piece of shit :lol

[9erempiree]

Not one game was won. 1 draw and 2 losses. -2 goal difference.

I predicted zero, zilch points but lucky that got one today because Chile didn't care.

:lol

Feels good bre...

[Overdrive]

Yeah, Chile...

[MavsSuperFan]

Most of the Americans have english blood tho :coleman:
actually german ancestry is predominate in america.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg/800px-Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg.png

[DeuceWallaces]

Yeah boy representing that green square.

[Nick Young]

English proved me wrong. They managed to get 1 point. Well done England for exceeding my expectations!

[9erempiree]

Yeah boy representing that green square.
http://atouchofdutch.com/images/H102dutchwomenhat.jpg

[9erempiree]

#NotForget

#ThreadwasMade

[kNicKz]

England is better than USA at football/soccer, don't be foolish.

[Nick Young]

England is better than USA at football/soccer, don't be foolish.
recent world cup results suggest otherwise

[kNicKz]

recent world cup results suggest otherwise

True, the Warriors are def. a better organization than the Lakers

[24-Inch_Chrome]

recent world cup results suggest otherwise

1 > 0. :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

1 > 0. :confusedshrug:
How many international trophies does England have? 1. A trophy that the entire world agrees England only won through cheating. USA has 5 international trophies.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

How many international trophies does England have? 1. A trophy that the entire world agrees England only won through cheating. USA has 5 international trophies.

If it's not the World Cup/Euro no one really gives a shit..

[Nick Young]

If it's not the World Cup/Euro no one really gives a shit..
That is a eurosnob attitude only shared by ignorant Euros who don't know any better, and euro-posers like yourself.

In the real world, the CONCACAF gold cup is a highly respected trophy on the same level as the UEFA European Cup and the CONMEBOL cup.

You still bend the knee to a queen across the ocean, scrub.

GTFO.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:whatever:

You can get as defensive as you like, doesn't change the fact that CONCACAF is a joke compared to the World Cup/Euro.

[Nick Young]

:whatever:

You can get as defensive as you like, doesn't change the fact that CONCACAF is a joke compared to the World Cup/Euro.
Bend the knee to your queen, bitch.

It's a joke when euro-posers talk about CONCACAF like they understand it XD

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Bend the knee to your queen, bitch.

It's a joke when euro-posers talk about CONCACAF like they understand it XD

CONCACAF isn't good. :confusedshrug:

Costa Rica is the only team from the group that's worth anything and they won't be winning anything important in the foreseeable future.

[Hittin_Shots]

How bout Aussies we any good?

[Nick Young]

CONCACAF isn't good. :confusedshrug:

Costa Rica is the only team from the group that's worth anything and they won't be winning anything important in the foreseeable future.
A Canadian trying to pretend he understands soccer now:roll:


"WE DA NORTH, DOE"
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Zero CONCACAF members have ever won the World Cup, only 10 have ever even qualified, and I'm the one that doesn't understand? :rolleyes:

Your stupidity is astounding. :eek: