Marcus Smart or Joel Embiid? (for Orlando)

[Jameerthefear]

Since Joel will likely fall out of the top 3 and since the shit tier Cleveland Cavaliers got the 1st pick I would say this is their option. Probably in the toughest spot in the draft tbh.
I also think that mayyyybeee if Embiid is still there after like #7 we could trade #12 + AA and move up so we can get Smart + Embiid.

[Le Shaqtus]

F*ck this draft.

[-Lebron23-]

Mods please move this sh

[Jameerthefear]

F*ck this draft.
:( he supposedly had an EXCELLENT draft workout with the Magic while Smart was meh. and then this shit goes down.

[russwest0]

Joel Embiid, next.

[CavaliersFTW]

Orlando drafting another big? Haven't they learned their lesson yet? :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

Orlando drafting another big? Haven't they learned their lesson yet? :oldlol:
Didn't your team draft Anthony Bennet at #1 last season? :roll:

[BlackVVaves]

I still think Orlando gets Exum. But, if Embiid truly does slip as much as draft analysts are projecting, then I agree the #4 is probably the worst place to be in terms of player selection.

IMO, if you have a top 5 pick in this draft, striking out on a prospect will haunt a franchise for years to come. More so than most drafts due to the talent at the top.

Gonna be an interesting week.

[chocolatethunder]

Since Joel will likely fall out of the top 3 and since the shit tier Cleveland Cavaliers got the 1st pick I would say this is their option. Probably in the toughest spot in the draft tbh.
I also think that mayyyybeee if Embiid is still there after like #7 we could trade #12 + AA and move up so we can get Smart + Embiid.
Why do you want smart? Do you want the shortest backcourt in the league?

[Jameerthefear]

Why do you want smart? Do you want the shortest backcourt in the league?
that isn't the shortest backcourt. i don't want Smart but hell...

[Jameerthefear]

I still think Orlando gets Exum. But, if Embiid truly does slip as much as draft analysts are projecting, then I agree the #4 is probably the worst place to be in terms of player selection.

IMO, if you have a top 5 pick in this draft, striking out on a prospect will haunt a franchise for years to come. More so than most drafts due to the talent at the top.

Gonna be an interesting week.
How do they get Exum?

[JUDGE WITNESS]

its so nice having a satellite team with a higher pick than u. draft embiid

[KobesFinger]

No way the Lakers don't draft Embiid if he falls to us, if you don't select him you won't get him. I think Orlando drafts Vonleh.

[Jameerthefear]

its so nice having a satellite team with a higher pick than u. draft embiid
Yeah. I'm sure the Rockets are glad that the Lakers got such a high pick this year.

[BlackVVaves]

How do they get Exum?

If the Bucks say **** it, we're swinging for the fences, and still select Embiid.

It seems, though, that with the revelation of Embiid's injury and Philly being hellbent on drafting Wiggins, that they will likely trade up into the #1 or #2 spot. And if that happens, I'm fairly certain the Bucks will pass on Embiid, and draft Exum instead (if the trade is with Milkwaukee and not Cleveland).

[wakencdukest]

Smart. Less risk.

[Levity]

Embiid is indeed risky given his recent health issues, but if you guys are looking at ennis at 12, maybe its a risk worth taking. Vuc has the range to play a pf, but how is his lateral quickness?

[Jameerthefear]

Embiid is indeed risky given his recent health issues, but if you guys are looking at ennis at 12, maybe its a risk worth taking. Vuc has the range to play a pf, but how is his lateral quickness?
he's slow.

[russwest0]

you trade afflalo and nikolai to the okc thunder for lamb and perkins and then draft embiid

oladipo
lamb
harris
nicholson
embiid

westbrook
afflalo
durant
ibaka
adams

[Jameerthefear]

you trade afflalo and nikolai to the okc thunder for lamb and perkins and then draft embiid

oladipo
lamb
harris
nicholson
embiid

westbrook
afflalo
durant
ibaka
adams
are you ****ing retarded?

[BlackVVaves]

are you ****ing retarded?

Is that the only line you have in your arsenal?

The over/under on the amount of times you pose that question as a retort per day is probably 5. Get some new material.

[Jameerthefear]

Is that the only line you have in your arsenal?

The over/under on the amount of times you pose that question as a retort per day is probably 5. Get some new material.
what

[russwest0]

perkins would show embiid the ropes :cheers:

[Fudge]

Mods?

Move this to the garbage ass Magic forum.

Please and thanks.

[GimmeThat]

are you ****ing retarded?

the thing is this offer might not make sense now, even if OKC does throw picks in there to sweeten up the pot.

but how this exact same deal may look come trade deadline depending on how the team record is as well as the contract the Magic has signed.

I don't know what FA out there, and what picks they can get for next year (since that's once again based on team records)


it's not impossible, but I wouldn't even be surprised if some player is being tested out there just to showcase their potential trade value for OKC.

[HOoopCityJones]

Orlando said they'd take Vonleh over Embiid and Smart.

[Jameerthefear]

the thing is this offer might not make sense now, even if OKC does throw picks in there to sweeten up the pot.

but how this exact same deal may look come trade deadline depending on how the team record is as well as the contract the Magic has signed.

I don't know what FA out there, and what picks they can get for next year (since that's once again based on team records)


it's not impossible, but I wouldn't even be surprised if some player is being tested out there just to showcase their potential trade value for OKC.
stop

[Le Shaqtus]

We're at the shittiest spot in this draft, losing out on Parker and Wiggins.

If we draft Embiid we have to put with shitty Laker fan's "lololol can't wait for Embiid to be in a laker uniform in a couple years" plus we don't need a center.

Exum is the most mysterious of the prospects, with this highly touted potential but hasn't really proven himself at all, personally think he's overrated.

Smart, undersized 2, not that great a playmaker, not very athletic and can't really shoot. We'd just be drafting Oladipo again except Dipo can defend.

I'd rather just take Vonleh at this point, what a wasted season, we got screwed. Cleveland better be in the playoffs next season or I'll be pissed.

[senelcoolidge]

Orlando is a team that should take a shot with Embiid. Sure we don't know if he will be injury prone and just bust out, but he could be really good. He may just take some time. I think Orlando is a good spot for him. Young, you also have other young bigs. I'd do it if I knew that his injuries weren't career limiting.

[Milbuck]

If the Bucks say **** it, we're swinging for the fences, and still select Embiid.

It seems, though, that with the revelation of Embiid's injury and Philly being hellbent on drafting Wiggins, that they will likely trade up into the #1 or #2 spot. And if that happens, I'm fairly certain the Bucks will pass on Embiid, and draft Exum instead (if the trade is with Milkwaukee and not Cleveland).
Yeah, I really doubt we take a chance with Embiid. Especially after Bogut, it just can't happen. There'd be riots in Madison and Milwaukee if we took Embiid and he busted hard from injuries.

I think Cleveland likes Jabari if they pass on Embiid. Which means Philly could still have him at #2 if they trade up. The rumored trade is Philly's 3 & 10 for either the #2 or #1, doesn't matter which one if Cleveland is actually going with Jabari like it's been reported. Cleveland would take Jabari, Philly would take Wiggins, and Milwaukee would take Exum with the #3 and one of Randle/Stauskas/Gordon/Saric with the #10. Gordon is unlikely, but with Randle's reported foot injury, he might slight a few spots to #10.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Orlando almost certainly won't draft Embid.

[Levity]

damn, embiid really may fall to 5-7 then.

[Milbuck]

How legitimate are the rumors of Cleveland trading the #1 to Utah for the #5 and Favors or Kanter? Because if that doesn't happen, Embiid could reasonably fall to the Celtics or Lakers. Holy shit what a turn of events in the past couple days. We went from Cleveland all but locking up Embiid...to everyone's mocks being screwed and Embiid potentially dropping to the 7th?

[senelcoolidge]

If Embiid drops to the lakers that is another potential broken player the lakers may draft. Randle or Embiid.

[Rubio2Gasol]

If Embiid drops to the lakers that is another potential broken player the lakers may draft. Randle or Embiid.

I doubt they care.

The Celtics and the Lakers really should take him, they're big markets anyway, they can get players whenever, you don't pass on a Franchise talent.

[senelcoolidge]

I doubt they care.

The Celtics and the Lakers really should take him, they're big markets anyway, they can get players whenever, you don't pass on a Franchise talent.

Embiid isn't dropping that far, unless he has an injury that will limit or shorten his career.

[TMT]

F*ck you Embiid. Killing our chances at getting Exum. If the Magic get stuck with Smart... :facepalm

[Rubio2Gasol]

Embiid isn't dropping that far, unless he has an injury that will limit or shorten his career.

Cavs - Wiggins/Parker
Bucks - Wiggins/Parker
Philly - ? Have a good young core already including a center. Probably go with Exum
Orlando - ^^ Same as Philly. Probably Smart, GM seems to like him
Utah - Want to trade up. Want Parker, don't like anyone else that much it seems, players dodging them.

Let's say Utah trades up and Cavs get the 5th pick, do they pick Embiid at 5?

[outbreak]

Vonleh. Marcus smart is a turd.

[outbreak]

Embiid isn't dropping that far, unless he has an injury that will limit or shorten his career.
His foot injury will. The bone he has fractured is the main supporting bone. Its a sign he will likely have fractures and micro fractures his whole career

[Milbuck]

F*ck you Embiid. Killing our chances at getting Exum. If the Magic get stuck with Smart... :facepalm
Wait what?

[KyrieTheFuture]

Smart so you can have the most overrated back court in the league

[BlackVVaves]

His foot injury will. The bone he has fractured is the main supporting bone. Its a sign he will likely have fractures and micro fractures his whole career

Yeah, he's going to have a screw in his foot for the rest of his playing career.

[Levity]

Wait what?

haha. im thinking the same thing.

[Jameerthefear]

Smart so you can have the most overrated back court in the league
Says the Kyrie fan :roll:

[RedBlackAttack]

How legitimate are the rumors of Cleveland trading the #1 to Utah for the #5 and Favors or Kanter? Because if that doesn't happen, Embiid could reasonably fall to the Celtics or Lakers. Holy shit what a turn of events in the past couple days. We went from Cleveland all but locking up Embiid...to everyone's mocks being screwed and Embiid potentially dropping to the 7th?
I've heard from a reliable source that the Cavs are far more likely to trade Kyrie Irving than they are to trade the No. 1 pick... And, Irving being traded is also highly unlikely. It was just a way of saying these rumors are pure bunk.

This Utah rumor in particular makes zero sense. I could almost see if they still wanted to roll the dice on Embiid doing a deal with Philly at No. 3, but moving down to 5? In this draft? F#ck that.

[The Iron Sheik]

Yeah, I really doubt we take a chance with Embiid. Especially after Bogut, it just can't happen. There'd be riots in Madison and Milwaukee if we took Embiid and he busted hard from injuries.

that's a risk I think the bucks are willing to take. 12 people isn't enough to cause any significant damage

[JUDGE WITNESS]

that's a risk I think the bucks are willing to take. 12 people isn't enough to cause any significant damage
:lol