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TheTruth11
06-20-2014, 01:19 PM
1. Exum does not have the bounce that Wiggins has but imo Exum has better side to side quicks... better shake and bake.

2. Exum has more shake and bake and ARGUABLY has a quicker, more explosive first step. For those who have not seen him, Exum's first step is elite and will rival some of the best in the game.

3. Wiggins is clearly better vertically but if you have a choice between vertical hopps and "shake and bake," a strong argument can be made that shake and bake is better so long as the person has at least average hopps - which Exum has.

4. Exum appears to have a better outside shot.

5. Exum has much better handles.

6. Wiggins is better defensively... although Exum is not a defensive liability at all and has the athleticism to be an elite defender himself one day.

7. Exum comes across as an Alpha Dogg. And Apha's are the guys that win you NBA championships.

Bottom line you (although I like Parker best), you can't go wrong with either Wiggins or Exum. I just think Exum brings more to table than Wiggins as far as a complete package. The only thing Exum lacks is elite hopps.

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Rameek
06-20-2014, 01:29 PM
I dont get how people are rating Exum so high when he's not played ball in a year if I remember correctly and he played the U-18's or something...

Against what competition has this kid showed this gifted talent?

Fudge
06-20-2014, 01:32 PM
Exum is gonna be a bust, you know that, right?

WeGetRing2012
06-20-2014, 01:39 PM
Please go and watch how Exum performed against the US in the U19 World Championship. Then delete this thread.

Jailblazers7
06-20-2014, 01:42 PM
OP should be banned for overuse of the phrase "shake and bake." This ain't Talladega Nights.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3569327872/h622D6BDE/

Fudge
06-20-2014, 01:44 PM
And how can you even compare the two?

One is a clear PG in the league and one's a definite 3 that CAN play the 2.

WeGetRing2012
06-20-2014, 01:51 PM
And how can you even compare the two?

One is a clear PG in the league and one's a definite 3 that CAN play the 2.

Exum really isn't a PG at all. His ball handling/playmaking skills looked poor even when he was playing against High Schoolers in AUS.

Milbuck
06-20-2014, 01:53 PM
Mystique isn't warranted hype. I'm not buying into the Exum love until I see him play against NBA players. He could be great, but I need to see the hype on the court first.

TheTruth11
06-20-2014, 02:07 PM
I dont get how people are rating Exum so high when he's not played ball in a year if I remember correctly and he played the U-18's or something...

Against what competition has this kid showed this gifted talent?

Actually Exum played against both Wiggins and Parker and both came away raving about how good he is... Wiggins even raved about Exum's elite explosiveness

BoutPractice
06-20-2014, 02:53 PM
4. Exum appears to have a better outside shot.

I disagree. Wiggins' jumpshot is the most underrated aspect of his game, whereas Exum seemed to have plenty of games with low percentages from outside and his form looks worse.

Marchesk
06-20-2014, 03:26 PM
Mystique isn't warranted hype.

Mystique gets you an army of these:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137066/3885444-xmen-sentinel-x.jpg

ZenMaster
06-20-2014, 03:32 PM
I dont get how people are rating Exum so high when he's not played ball in a year if I remember correctly and he played the U-18's or something...

Against what competition has this kid showed this gifted talent?

Not played ball in a year if you remember right... What is this made up BS lol?

Pointguard
06-20-2014, 03:32 PM
Yeah I agree with #2 mostly. A great first step means a world of a difference. I believe its why he was thought of so highly. Its why Westbrook is so good.

Dizzle-2k7
06-20-2014, 03:33 PM
wiggins is MGK with better athleticism.....

not gonna be dominant in the NBA

chocolatethunder
06-20-2014, 03:52 PM
Actually Exum played against both Wiggins and Parker and both came away raving about how good he is... Wiggins even raved about Exum's elite explosiveness
Cool story bro

kshutts1
06-20-2014, 03:55 PM
You are aware that points 1, 2, and 3 were all the same, right?

chocolatethunder
06-20-2014, 03:55 PM
And how can you even compare the two?

One is a clear PG in the league and one's a definite 3 that CAN play the 2.
Exum is not a "clear PG". Exum is a two guard who can pass a little but has no jumpshot at all so he's being marketed as a PG. He's not a PG. Wake up and stop believing the hype. People need to get a grip about Exum. He's as unproven as can be. If ever anyone was all hype it's this guy.

GOBB
06-20-2014, 03:58 PM
Wiggins showed he can shoot and has range. Exum knock is his shooting yet OP insists the guy he's never seen much is a better shooter. Oh toss in Exum being an alpha dog based on...


Where are the mods at? Delete this thread.

TheTruth11
06-20-2014, 04:18 PM
Wiggins showed he can shoot and has range. Exum knock is his shooting yet OP insists the guy he's never seen much is a better shooter. Oh toss in Exum being an alpha dog based on...


Where are the mods at? Delete this thread.

Your feelings hurt bro.:lol Go back and read my post, when did I EVER say that I have never seen a better shooter?

If I am wrong about his shooting time will tell. To my eye Exum looks to be the better shooter but I could be wrong. I have never been impressed with Wiggins' shot. And since when did Wiggins become a great shooter? Of course he isn't. So lets just say that they both can work on their outside shots, with that said, I still think Exum does more things well than Wiggins does.... that great first step, handles, the shake, and that apha mentality.

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TheTruth11
06-20-2014, 04:25 PM
You are aware that points 1, 2, and 3 were all the same, right?

Actually 1, 2, and 3 are not the same point. 1 deals with shake. 2 deals with first step - shake and first step are not necessarily one in the same. And 3 deals with why an argument can made for shake (side to side quickness) being superior to hopps.

I know the argument is nuanced, but I believe you can grasp it bro:pimp:

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chocolatethunder
06-20-2014, 04:28 PM
Your feelings hurt bro.:lol Go back and read my post, when did I EVER say that I have never seen a better shooter?

If I am wrong about his shooting time will tell. To my eye Exum looks to be the better shooter but I could be wrong. I have never been impressed with Wiggins' shot. And since when did Wiggins become a great shooter? Of course he isn't. So lets just say that they both can work on their outside shots, with that said, I still think Exum does more things well than Wiggins does.... that great first step, handles, the shake, and that apha mentality.

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Just curious, but why does Exum have that "alpha mentality?" Wiggns and Parker just spent a season playing against the best college players in the counrty. You saw Exum play in a youth tournament against those guys and they complimented him? Wow. I dunno what vids of Exum you've seen but he is not a better shooter than Wiggins. Neither of them can shoot. No way in the world does he have a quicker first step and he's not faster, longer and cannot cover more ground than Wiggins. Exum looks good playing against bums. Wiggins looks good playing against the best DI players. Exum isn't a PG and is no great passer. Yeah he can def dribble better than wiggins and that's it. Both of their shots are garbage.

GOBB
06-20-2014, 04:31 PM
Can you read? Signs point to know. I'll break down the post that you struggled to comprehend. I said Wiggins PROVED he can shoot and showed range. This is not something I'm making up. He played in college for all to see and showed he can shoot. I then went on to say HOW can you claim Exum is a better shooter when you haven't seen Exum PLAY? Another fact I'm dropping on you kid. And last Exum WEAKNESS by all SCOUTING REPORTS say he struggles as a shooter. Yet somewhere in your life you have footage and sound reasoning to why Exum doesn't have this weakness. IN FACT he's a better shooter than Wiggins.

Got that? Probably not. I mean shame on me for arguing with someone who is talkin up a player few in this world have actually seen. Yet you have something others don't. What's that? The elite ability to talk out of your ass.

Courtesy flush or nah?

JohnMax
06-20-2014, 04:37 PM
I found an article backing up OP. link
(http://hoopshabit.com/2014/06/18/philadelphia-76ers-andrew-wiggins-dante-exum/)

Comparing the two side by side, Exum is a better shooter than Wiggins. Wiggins would have to be the favorite when discussing streaking to the basket, rebounding, defense and overall athleticism.

KyrieTheFuture
06-20-2014, 04:57 PM
wiggins is MGK with better athleticism.....

not gonna be dominant in the NBA
This might be one of the worst comparisons I've ever seen.

Also OP basically wrote better handles 5 different times. It's not shocking a PG has better handles. Also the spurs don't have alphas and won plenty, apparently Bran isn't alpha and he has 2.

GOBB
06-20-2014, 05:43 PM
I found an article backing up OP. link
(http://hoopshabit.com/2014/06/18/philadelphia-76ers-andrew-wiggins-dante-exum/)

Comparing the two side by side, Exum is a better shooter than Wiggins. Wiggins would have to be the favorite when discussing streaking to the basket, rebounding, defense and overall athleticism.

And in the same article he says Exum shooting and range is relatively unknown

Finger Roll
06-20-2014, 06:25 PM
You are aware that points 1, 2, and 3 were all the same, right?

:lol

Finger Roll
06-20-2014, 06:28 PM
speaking of shake and bake.. its been awhile, many meals were consumed of shake n baked chicken or pork chops, rice, broccoli and cheese sauce as a kid :rockon: