Steph Curry's Impact

[sundizz]

"Golden State was comically dependent on its point guard last season. With Curry in the game, the Warriors posted a 109.7 offensive rating. When he sat, they posted a 93.8 rating. The former would qualify a team for the league's best offense, and the latter would qualify a team for the league

[Rubio2Gasol]

Yup, Marc Jackson really rode Curry to his deathbed.

Always backfired in the playoffs because teams started doubling and tripling and utilizing the lack of movement by other guys off the ball to slow them down. A team with elite passers and shooters really, really need a read and react system to thrive in.

Curry won't get to make the pretty pick and roll cross court one handers every play, but you'll give yourself a better chance to win. He should still get a bunch of pick and roll, but it shouldn't be the staple.

[Milbuck]

Comical really is the best word for it, especially during the playoffs. Statistically, the rest of that team looked like a joke with Steph off the floor.

Steph's net rating against the Clippers was +37. +0.5 with him on the floor, -36.5 with him off the floor :oldlol:

To put that in perspective, in the playoffs:

Lebron James: net +8.0
Kevin Durant: net +11.1

[Nastradamus]

I saw a similar stat about Love. They could be just a filthy duo.

[sd3035]

Yup, Marc Jackson really rode Curry to his deathbed.

Always backfired in the playoffs because teams started doubling and tripling and utilizing the lack of movement by other guys off the ball to slow them down. A team with elite passers and shooters really, really need a read and react system to thrive in.

Curry won't get to make the pretty pick and roll cross court one handers every play, but you'll give yourself a better chance to win. He should still get a bunch of pick and roll, but it shouldn't be the staple.


Didn't the Warriors barely lose in 7 to the Clippers without Andrew Bogut?


Doesn't seem like he has no impact in the payoffs

[Rubio2Gasol]

Didn't the Warriors barely lose in 7 to the Clippers without Andrew Bogut?


Doesn't seem like he has no impact in the payoffs

Didn't say that, but they were definitely slowed down. Series went to 7 because of defense and clutchness.

[Dizzle-2k7]

curry is so overrated... only reason he does well is because mark jackson would revolve EVERYTHING around him..

he doesnt play D, he doesnt get teammates involved and allow them to get rhythms.. hes a chucker..

hes gilbert arenas without the bball IQ and thats why he gets EXPOSED EVERY YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS

[Inferno]

Yeah, that's Mark Jackson's offense for ya. We need another 20+ PPG scorer like Love.


curry is so overrated... only reason he does well is because mark jackson would revolve EVERYTHING around him..

he doesnt play D, he doesnt get teammates involved and allow them to get rhythms.. hes a chucker..

hes gilbert arenas without the bball IQ and thats why he gets EXPOSED EVERY YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS

:biggums:

Doesn't get his teammates involved to a tune of 8.5 assists per game, and chucks to a tune of 61% TS. Yup.

How can he get exposed in the playoffs every year when he's been there twice, once to the second round?

Last year: 23/4/8 on 43/40/92 shooting
This year: 23/4/8 on 44/39/89 shooting

:facepalm

[navy]

Didn't the Warriors barely lose in 7 to the Clippers without Andrew Bogut?


Doesn't seem like he has no impact in the payoffs
This is assuming Bogut would have been effective. Sometimes going small is better, especially for offense.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Considering what DJ and Blake did to them, I think the Warriors would have preferred Bogut. Especially with Lee playing injured at the time as well.

[Inferno]

It was cringeworthy watching Lee try to guard Griffin or DJ.

[Dizzle-2k7]

Last year: 23/4/8 on 43/40/92 shooting
This year: 23/4/8 on 44/39/89 shooting

:facepalm

under 45% shooting for a chucking PG with no defense :roll:

you must be very proud:applause:

[Inferno]

under 45% shooting for a chucking PG with no defense :roll:

you must be very proud:applause:

Might have something to do with him taking 8 3's per game, but you probably wouldn't understand :facepalm TS of 60% this year in the playoffs

Defense is an issue though, won't lie. I'd like to see him guard more PG's this season instead of having Klay put on them (assuming Klay's still here).

[Dizzle-2k7]

Might have something to do with him taking 8 3's per game, but you probably wouldn't understand :facepalm TS of 60% this year in the playoffs

Defense is an issue though, won't lie. I'd like to see him guard more PG's this season instead of having Klay put on them (assuming Klay's still here).


im telling you.. GSW has a great squad but Klay and Barnes are never gonna reach full potential with Curry chucking and not playing D... trade curry for Rondo and yall are a lock for WCF

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Didn't Curry have the second highest fg% in the NBA for PGs this past season? I wonder what his numbers would be if he didn't chuck. :eek: 60/60/99?

[Inferno]

im telling you.. GSW has a great squad but Klay and Barnes are never gonna reach full potential with Curry chucking and not playing D... trade curry for Rondo and yall are a lock for WCF

:coleman:

Curry has bad shot selection at times, but he's not a chucker. You can't call the best 3 point shooter in NBA history a chucker. He averages around the same amount of shots as Westbrook without a dominant scorer like Durant next to him. We bring Love in and I guarantee that'll change; he'll probably take less shots but get more efficient with Love drawing doubles...


Didn't Curry have the second highest fg% in the NBA for PGs this past season? I wonder what his numbers would be if he didn't chuck. :eek: 60/60/99?

Not sure about that, but he did shoot 47%. IIRC Dragic was around 50%.

[Ca$H]

[QUOTE=sundizz]"Golden State was comically dependent on its point guard last season. With Curry in the game, the Warriors posted a 109.7 offensive rating. When he sat, they posted a 93.8 rating. The former would qualify a team for the league's best offense, and the latter would qualify a team for the league

[Milbuck]

Steph could probably shoot 55/50/90 in the Spurs system.

[unbreakable]

Steph could probably shoot 55/50/90 in the Spurs system.

Curry wouldnt average more than 15 minutes a game under Coach Popovich with his terrible shot selection

[Inferno]

Curry wouldnt average more than 15 minutes a game under Coach Popovich with his terrible shot selection

:facepalm

[riseagainst]

imagine Curry on the Spurs......

[Inferno]

imagine Curry on the Spurs......

His efficiency would be amazing. But let's instead imagine him on the Warriors with a structured offense and Kevin Love :applause:

[sd3035]

Didn't say that, but they were definitely slowed down. Series went to 7 because of defense and clutchness.


weren't the Clippers better than the Warriors in the regular season?


I don't see going down to the final seconds against a higher seeded team in game seven of the playoffs is underperforming

[Inferno]

weren't the Clippers better than the Warriors in the regular season?


I don't see going down to the final seconds against a higher seeded team in game seven of the playoffs is underperforming

2-2 in the regular season

[sd3035]

This is assuming Bogut would have been effective. Sometimes going small is better, especially for offense.


Bogut makes the team much better

[sd3035]

2-2 in the regular season


Seems about how the series went, really close. Plus the Clips had homecourt

[Rubio2Gasol]

weren't the Clippers better than the Warriors in the regular season?


I don't see going down to the final seconds against a higher seeded team in game seven of the playoffs is underperforming

As I said, it isn't.

But ask any Warriors fan, the offense was not been optimized under Jackson. It was great, because of pure talent, but could be much better.

[sd3035]

As I said, it isn't.

But ask any Warriors fan, the offense was not been optimized under Jackson. It was great, because of pure talent, but could be much better.


I agree a different coach could make them better but I don't think curry is less effective in the playoffs, even with physical playoff style defense

[dubeta]

Its impossible for a team to go deep in the playoffs relying so much on the PG

its too much for small guys to constantly have to score, and create for the whole team

[Inferno]

Its impossible for a team to go deep in the playoffs relying so much on the PG

its too much for small guys to constantly have to score, and create for the whole team

That's why we need Love :applause:

[Bigsmoke]

One of the more exciting players to watch and his impact was good enough to lead his team over a 57 win team one year and take other 57 win team without some key pieces:confusedshrug: