View Full Version : Cavs are picking Wiggins
Real14
06-20-2014, 07:10 PM
Since Embiid aka Oden Jr. aka LeBron's half brother is out for half of tha year, tha cavs will pick wiggins especially if they want Lebron to come back if not then that franchise iz more dumb than I thought:coleman: What you think?
fpliii
06-20-2014, 07:11 PM
Doesn't Wiggins play the same position as LeBron?
Real14
06-20-2014, 07:13 PM
Doesn't Wiggins play the same position as LeBron?
Lebron can play tha 4.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 07:22 PM
You forgot to put "I think..." in your thread title.
JohnMax
06-20-2014, 07:35 PM
Wiggins can play the 2
Real14
06-20-2014, 07:38 PM
Wiggins can play the 2
So put waiters as tha 6th man right?
fpliii
06-20-2014, 07:39 PM
So put waiters as tha 6th man right?
Can Wiggins, Waiters, and Bran play together?
NBAplayoffs2001
06-20-2014, 07:40 PM
Wiggins can play the 2
Doesn't have the ball handling needed to be a guard, so no he can play the 3. And I do like Wiggins just being realistic.
RedBlackAttack
06-20-2014, 07:41 PM
Parker is intriguing, because he seems like he might have some real leadership qualities that may be lacking in our other young guys... I say may because it's still too soon to label Irving/Waiters/TT/Bennett as any one way.
But, Wiggins is my choice as of this moment. I think he's a better fit and has a higher ceiling.
He actually has a really nice spot-up jumper and his mechanics are impressive. He didn't shoot an incredibly high percentage at KU, but all you have to do is watch him shoot the ball to see he could become an elite (imo) jumpshooter. It sort of reminds me of Bradley Beal's situation at UF. Again, not a guy who was statistically overwhelming, but you could just see he was going to be a pure shooter on the next level.
Wiggins also has an elite first step, and nice step-back and pull-up jumpers in his arsenal. Meanwhile, he looks like a potential versatile defensive stopper on the wing and that is something the Cavs are in desperate need of (along with a rim protector).
The biggest area he needs to improve is his ball handling skills, but he sort of reminds me of a SF version of Russell Westbrook when he was coming out. Westbrook was said to have a loose handle and was a below average playmaker at UCLA, despite his incredible frame and talent.
The minute he stepped on an NBA floor, you could see that he was meant to play in the league and that his skills weren't necessarily cut-out for the collegiate game. I sense a similar trait in Wiggins and I think people may watch him in Summer League and know immediately the NBA was his game.
There, things are a little less congested and the floor is more open to do your thing. Despite the concerns, I'd say Westbrook's handle has not been the issue people thought it would be when he entered the draft.
So yeah... long story short -- right now at least -- I'm taking Wiggins.
fpliii
06-20-2014, 07:43 PM
Parker is intriguing, because he seems like he might have some real leadership qualities that may be lacking in our other young guys... I say may because it's still too soon to label Irving/Waiters/TT/Bennett as any one way.
But, Wiggins is my choice as of this moment. I think he's a better fit and has a higher ceiling.
He actually has a really nice spot-up jumper and his mechanics are impressive. He didn't shoot an incredibly high percentage at UK, but all you have to do is watch him shoot the ball to see he could become an elite (imo) jumpshooter. It sort of reminds me of Bradley Beal's situation at UF. Again, not a guy who was statistically overwhelming, but you could just see he was going to be a pure shooter on the next level.
Wiggins also has an elite first step, and nice step-back and pull-up jumpers in his arsenal.
The biggest area he needs to improve is his ball handling skills, but he sort of reminds me of a SF version of Russell Westbrook when he was coming out. Westbrook was said to have a loose handle and was a below average playmaker at UCLA, despite his incredible frame and talent.
The minute he stepped on an NBA floor, you could see that he was meant to play in the league and that his skills weren't necessarily cut-out for the collegiate game. I sense a similar trait in Wiggins and I think people may watch him in Summer League and know immediately the NBA was his game.
There, things are a little less congested and the floor is more open to do your thing. Despite the concerns, I'd say Westbrook's handle has not been the issue people thought it would be when he entered the draft.
So yeah... long story short -- right now at least -- I'm taking Wiggins.
RBA, I know your stance on the issue, but I'm just wondering (apologies if you've answered this recently)...after the Finals, and as things presently stand, do you think there's a nontrivial chance LeBron returns to Cleveland?
miles berg
06-20-2014, 07:45 PM
Wiggins or Exum has to be he choice here.
NBAplayoffs2001
06-20-2014, 07:45 PM
Parker is intriguing, because he seems like he might have some real leadership qualities that may be lacking in our other young guys... I say may because it's still too soon to label Irving/Waiters/TT/Bennett as any one way.
But, Wiggins is my choice as of this moment. I think he's a better fit and has a higher ceiling.
He actually has a really nice spot-up jumper and his mechanics are impressive. He didn't shoot an incredibly high percentage at UK, but all you have to do is watch him shoot the ball to see he could become an elite (imo) jumpshooter. It sort of reminds me of Bradley Beal's situation at UF. Again, not a guy who was statistically overwhelming, but you could just see he was going to be a pure shooter on the next level.
Wiggins also has an elite first step, and nice step-back and pull-up jumpers in his arsenal. Meanwhile, he looks like a potential versatile defensive stopper on the wing and that is something the Cavs are in desperate need of (along with a rim protector).
The biggest area he needs to improve is his ball handling skills, but he sort of reminds me of a SF version of Russell Westbrook when he was coming out. Westbrook was said to have a loose handle and was a below average playmaker at UCLA, despite his incredible frame and talent.
The minute he stepped on an NBA floor, you could see that he was meant to play in the league and that his skills weren't necessarily cut-out for the collegiate game. I sense a similar trait in Wiggins and I think people may watch him in Summer League and know immediately the NBA was his game.
There, things are a little less congested and the floor is more open to do your thing. Despite the concerns, I'd say Westbrook's handle has not been the issue people thought it would be when he entered the draft.
So yeah... long story short -- right now at least -- I'm taking Wiggins.
Me too but I want him to become a far more aggressive pro and attack the rim like crazy like Westbrook. Westbrook improved drastically after getting drafted, I would be surprised if Wiggins ends up as a bust. I want him to go to a team that gives him a lot of time to develop and a lot of minutes his rookie season. He needs minutes and experience IMO much more than jabari. This kid has the potential to be a really great player, I would be shocked in 10 years if he hasn't at least made an all-defensive 2nd team or an all star team tbh.
Real14
06-20-2014, 07:46 PM
Can Wiggins, Waiters, and Bran play together?
So far it looks better than those Cleveland teams back pre Miami.
Real14
06-20-2014, 07:50 PM
Parker is intriguing, because he seems like he might have some real leadership qualities that may be lacking in our other young guys... I say may because it's still too soon to label Irving/Waiters/TT/Bennett as any one way.
But, Wiggins is my choice as of this moment. I think he's a better fit and has a higher ceiling.
He actually has a really nice spot-up jumper and his mechanics are impressive. He didn't shoot an incredibly high percentage at UK, but all you have to do is watch him shoot the ball to see he could become an elite (imo) jumpshooter. It sort of reminds me of Bradley Beal's situation at UF. Again, not a guy who was statistically overwhelming, but you could just see he was going to be a pure shooter on the next level.
Wiggins also has an elite first step, and nice step-back and pull-up jumpers in his arsenal. Meanwhile, he looks like a potential versatile defensive stopper on the wing and that is something the Cavs are in desperate need of (along with a rim protector).
The biggest area he needs to improve is his ball handling skills, but he sort of reminds me of a SF version of Russell Westbrook when he was coming out. Westbrook was said to have a loose handle and was a below average playmaker at UCLA, despite his incredible frame and talent.
The minute he stepped on an NBA floor, you could see that he was meant to play in the league and that his skills weren't necessarily cut-out for the collegiate game. I sense a similar trait in Wiggins and I think people may watch him in Summer League and know immediately the NBA was his game.
There, things are a little less congested and the floor is more open to do your thing. Despite the concerns, I'd say Westbrook's handle has not been the issue people thought it would be when he entered the draft.
So yeah... long story short -- right now at least -- I'm taking Wiggins.
Yea that's all wiggins need to do iz work on his shooting and he will be set. I definitely agree tho he iz tha best choice for tha cavs. His potential iz sky high.
Uncle Drew
06-20-2014, 07:52 PM
Both Wiggins and Parker are meh compared to Embiid. :(
Can Wiggins, Waiters, and Bran play together?
Yeah, considering Lebron can play 1-4. Id definetly be worried about Waiter and Kyrie egos from not having the ball and Lebron's passiveness to actually massage such egos. Wiggins would be fine as he isnt great with the ball.
Wiggins with Lebron as a mentor.:bowdown:
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 07:54 PM
RBA please don't ever refer to KU as UK again
Thanks :cheers:
RedBlackAttack
06-20-2014, 07:59 PM
RBA, I know your stance on the issue, but I'm just wondering (apologies if you've answered this recently)...after the Finals, and as things presently stand, do you think there's a nontrivial chance LeBron returns to Cleveland?
I personally do not think it will happen, at least not this year. I do believe he may have a plan of ultimately coming back and finishing his career here, but I don't think where the Cavs are presently would make a ton of sense for James. If he came back, we'd have to mortgage a lot of these future potential stars and trade them for a team that can win now. He isn't coming back in an effort to help guys like Dion, Tristan and AB grow.
Hell, Windy even reported that he wouldn't have an interest in playing with Kyrie, although I sort of doubt the accuracy of that one. Their games fit together very well.
I'm not going to totally rule it out, because where the James circus is concerned, you never know what is in store. I thought Miami was an outlandish landing spot for James when it was initially floated on here way back in 2009 (that thread would be an interesting read today), so I don't pretend to be an expert on James' related decisions.
I do think there is a good chance he comes back before he retires. I don't think it will halpen this year.
And, if I had my druthers, he'd never play in a Cavs uniform again... but that's just me and I know my position is controversial. I just wish he would make a damn decision so I could stop hearing about it.
RedBlackAttack
06-20-2014, 08:01 PM
RBA please don't ever refer to KU as UK again
Thanks :cheers:
Haha. My bad. Edited for posterity. :cheers:
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:07 PM
I personally do not think it will happen, at least not this year. I do believe he may have a plan of ultimately coming back and finishing his career here, but I don't think where the Cavs are presently would make a ton of sense for James. If he came back, we'd have to mortgage a lot of these future potential stars and trade them for a team that can win now. He isn't coming back in an effort to help guys like Dion, Tristan and AB grow.
Hell, Windy even reported that he wouldn't have an interest in playing with Kyrie, although I sort of doubt the accuracy of that one. Their games fit together very well.
I'm not going to totally rule it out, because where the James circus is concerned, you never know what is in store. I thought Miami was an outlandish landing spot for James when it was initially floated on here way back in 2009 (that thread would be an interesting read today), so I don't pretend to be an expert on James' related decisions.
I do think there is a good chance he comes back before he retires. I don't think it will halpen this year.
And, if I had my druthers, he'd never play in a Cavs uniform again... but that's just me and I know my position is controversial. I just wish he would make a damn decision so I could stop hearing about it.
Thanks for the response.
Do you think he opts in for 1 or 2 years and delays the decision? Would be kinda lame if this drags out that long.
RedBlackAttack
06-20-2014, 08:15 PM
Thanks for the response.
Do you think he opts in for 1 or 2 years and delays the decision? Would be kinda lame if this drags out that long.
I think that's what is most likely to happen, unfortunately. That means another 1-2 years of endless debate and speculation... of every Cavs article, segment, tweet, comment turning into a conversation about James. It's like a never ending nightmare. Probably won't stop until he comes back or retires. :(
1~Gibson~1
06-20-2014, 08:56 PM
Doesn't have the ball handling needed to be a guard, so no he can play the 3. And I do like Wiggins just being realistic.
As long as he spaces the floor well he could play the 2. If not, Lebron could play 2.
But This is all based on LeBron coming back to Cleveland anyway so whatever...
JimmyMcAdocious
06-20-2014, 08:58 PM
They should. That way they would the GOAT American basketball player and the GOAT basketball player on the wing.
ZHAKIDD532
06-20-2014, 10:03 PM
Doesn't Wiggins play the same position as LeBron?
People are considering Melo and LeBron together. They play the same position. They could easily play 3/4 next to each other.
If I was the Cavs GM, I'd pick Wiggins.
Bodhi
06-20-2014, 11:02 PM
People are considering Melo and LeBron together. They play the same position. They could easily play 3/4 next to each other.
If I was the Cavs GM, I'd pick Wiggins.
Positions are almost completely arbitrary. Usage is what matters and you could fit Wiggins next to LeBron perfectly
el gringos
06-20-2014, 11:21 PM
No they'll take Parker or trade the pick. Outside chance of taking embiid @1.
RedBlackAttack
06-20-2014, 11:58 PM
No they'll take Parker or trade the pick. Outside chance of taking embiid @1.
What's your rationale? Not that I'm calling you out. I'm just curious how you arrived there and why Wiggins is out of the picture for you?
veilside23
06-21-2014, 01:42 PM
i dont know why people tend to see how good wiggins can be.. some only base it on some games.but to me just seeing how derozan, leonard, and george developed . i think wiggins can be greater than what this 3 guys have done so far. but for me i would love wiggins to play with a pass first point guard...
dreamwarrior
06-21-2014, 01:47 PM
I just have a feeling that Parker's going to be that "ready for the NBA" guy that ends not not panning out. If Wiggins had done better in the championship he'd probably be picked #1.
Of course they are. They want Team Canada in the US.
Doesn't Wiggins play the same position as LeBron?
LeBron can play and defend all 5 positions.
Ballin095
06-21-2014, 02:20 PM
LeBron can play and defend all 5 positions.
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