View Full Version : Report: LAL/PHI discussing Nash and 7 for MCW and Thaddeus Young
DStebb716
06-20-2014, 08:01 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryenarussillo/statuses/479969545507971072
Rubio2Gasol
06-20-2014, 08:03 PM
:oldlol: :coleman:
Kukoc
06-20-2014, 08:03 PM
So the 76ers would have 3 of the top 10 picks in the 2014 draft?
Mr.Kite
06-20-2014, 08:03 PM
Deal
Levity
06-20-2014, 08:06 PM
im not really a supporter of said move, but it does raise a few questions. how much capspace would that give the lakers? because the only reason i see them doing that, is in hopes of signing melo this offseason
mcw
kobe
melo
young
kaman/hill?
kind of an interesting line up.
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 08:06 PM
Hellll yes.
We bout to do it again :hammertime: :hammertime: :party: :party:
Would love if it was just MCW tho, what Young contract look like??
Edit: didnt see we were giving up Nash.. Young id assume doesn't make as much.
Would be a great pick up to not only win now but be set for the future.
Rubio2Gasol
06-20-2014, 08:08 PM
Hellll yes.
We bout to do it again :hammertime: :hammertime: :party: :party:
Would love if it was just MCW tho, what's Youngster contract look like??
<10 Mil
I think he's good value in general.
r0drig0lac
06-20-2014, 08:09 PM
good for lakers
AboutBuckets
06-20-2014, 08:10 PM
I'm all for Hinkie pulling unorthodox moves, but this would just be retarded
MVBallin2K
06-20-2014, 08:11 PM
Meh I dunno. MCW had an impressive rookie year but taking on him and Young? I know realistically with Kobe's contract the cap space situation isn't as great as it could be and all but surely there's better options out there than this.
I know it makes me sound like a cynic given it's young talent and a potential future long term piece but I'd almost rather take the chance on a draft pick in a deep draft than trade it.
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:11 PM
Philly gets another year of tanking, Lakers get a young player they can renounce after Kobe expires and Thad who expires this season. Pretty much a perfect situation to try and win now, while still keeping cap space for the Kobe retirement.
Cocaine80s
06-20-2014, 08:13 PM
Why not just take Lavine at 7?
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:14 PM
Interesting.
What kind of position does this put us in for free agency?
BlackVVaves
06-20-2014, 08:14 PM
Hellll yes.
We bout to do it again :hammertime: :hammertime: :party: :party:
Would love if it was just MCW tho, what Young contract look like??
Edit: didnt see we were giving up Nash.. Young id assume doesn't make as much.
Would be a great pick up to not only win now but be set for the future.
What is "it"? Do you think that lineup is doing more than scrape for the 8th seed?
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 08:14 PM
Bull shit. I just saw Thaddeus Young's contract. I'd assume you'd use the #7 to get rid of Nash without taking back a contract
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:16 PM
Bull shit. I just saw Thaddeus Young's contract. I'd assume you'd use the #7 to get rid of Nash without taking back a contract
Holy shit this. Just looked it up:
2015: $9.41M
2016: $9.97M
****.
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 08:16 PM
What is "it"? Do you think that lineup is doing more than scrape for the 8th seed?
Line up? What line up? Do you have a crystal ball that shows the lakers rotation for next year? :facepalm
"It" would be pulling off a trade in which we get a top tier young talent for something we didn't even want to begin with (a non top 5 pick)
philly should do this, i don't believe in the mcw hype. Get Exum at #3 and Randle at 7.
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 08:18 PM
Holy shit this. Just looked it up:
2015: $9.41M
2016: $9.97M
****.
Yeah but we get rid of Nash's contract in the process.. Which if I recall correctly is over 10 mill a year
NoGunzJustSkillz
06-20-2014, 08:18 PM
Holy shit this. Just looked it up:
2015: $9.41M
2016: $9.97M
****.
well worth the money imo. thad has potential to be a borderline superstar.
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:20 PM
Yeah but we get rid of Nash's contract in the process.. Which if I recall correctly is over 10 mill a year
Nash has one year left, $9.70M in 14-15. We're taking on a contract for an extra year.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 08:20 PM
I just don't see it..and I don't get why Philly has to take on Nash's contract?
Certainly though, Thad Young would be a fine young player for LA to take in. MCW would be a cornerstone going forward as well.
Philly will try really hard before any of this to move up for Wiggins.
WeGetRing2012
06-20-2014, 08:20 PM
Hellll yes.
We bout to do it again :hammertime: :hammertime: :party: :party:
Would love if it was just MCW tho, what Young contract look like??
Edit: didnt see we were giving up Nash.. Young id assume doesn't make as much.
Would be a great pick up to not only win now but be set for the future.
Really? I think this trade would be awful. MCW is not a championship PG, I would rather go after Patty Mills in free agency. Thad Young has two years left on his deal and he can opt out after next year. The 7th pick gives us the opportunity to develop a great young player we are guaranteed either Randle, Embiid, Smart, Exum, or Vonleh. I would rather have a future that includes one of those players.
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:20 PM
well worth the money imo. thad has potential to be a borderline superstar.
Is he legit? I don't watch much of the Sixers really. What's his game?
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 08:20 PM
Holy shit this. Just looked it up:
2015: $9.41M
2016: $9.97M
****.
Exactly. It really makes no sense, even if they're going for let's say Melo/Lebron. Way too many guys who need the ball in their hands to work. I have my doubts even MCW and Kobe will work.
HOoopCityJones
06-20-2014, 08:21 PM
Do it.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 08:22 PM
Really? I think this trade would be awful. MCW is not a championship PG, I would rather go after Patty Mills in free agency. Thad Young has two years left on his deal and he can opt out after next year. The 7th pick gives us the opportunity to develop a great young player we are guaranteed either Randle, Embiid, Smart, Exum, or Vonleh. I would rather have a future that includes one of those players.
Patty Mills is a ****ing back up point guard and he isn't leaving SA for LA :oldlol:
Im so nba'd out
06-20-2014, 08:23 PM
Were just trolling the lakers for f'ing us over with that bynum deal you guys wont ever get another trade from us :yaohappy:
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 08:24 PM
Is he legit? I don't watch much of the Sixers really. What's his game?
He has no chance to be a superstar. He's already been in the league 6 years. What you see is what you'll get. He gives you 17, 6, 2,2 without needing the ball in his hands. Very solid player, but not worth screwing up two years worth of cap space plans for.
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 08:24 PM
Really? I think this trade would be awful. MCW is not a championship PG, I would rather go after Patty Mills in free agency. Thad Young has two years left on his deal and he can opt out after next year. The 7th pick gives us the opportunity to develop a great young player we are guaranteed either Randle, Embiid, Smart, Exum, or Vonleh. I would rather have a future that includes one of those players.
I haven't seen a whole bunch of MCW..
But damn does he look good on paper.
6"6 point guard who just put up 17/6/6/2 as a rookie and is only 22
Plus he's still on a rookie contract..
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:26 PM
He has no chance to be a superstar. He's already been in the league 6 years. What you see is what you'll get. He gives you 17, 6, 2,2 without needing the ball in his hands. Very solid player, but not worth screwing up two years worth of cap space plans for.
****. Is he a defensive stopper?
I mean, if they did this, they still have other roster needs. Would this take us out of the running for Love/Melo/Bosh/LeBron completely? We still need a big man.
What would our cap space situation look like?
I guess Philly is interested In Exum...
WeGetRing2012
06-20-2014, 08:27 PM
I don't think this trade happens at all.
Maybe something with the Kings and their pick could make this possible with Thad Young & MCW going to the Kings for their 8th pick and the Lakers taking back some bad contracts (Thompson or Laundry) from the Kings & the 76ers 10th pick. With Nash going to the 76ers along with the 8th pick.
I think the 76ers are in bad position (Thats what they get for tanking) because Exum and MCW won't work. But a core of Exum/Gordon/Noel could be great.
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:27 PM
Patty Mills is a ****ing back up point guard and he isn't leaving SA for LA :oldlol:
Uh... he's unrestricted and played great in the playoffs. He's not a superstar so he isn't taking less to stay somewhere. He'll be looking to get paid.
WeGetRing2012
06-20-2014, 08:28 PM
Patty Mills is a ****ing back up point guard and he isn't leaving SA for LA :oldlol:
Money talks and Spurs don't have a lot of it to spend.
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:28 PM
****. Is he a defensive stopper?
I mean, if they did this, they still have other roster needs. Would this take us out of the running for Love/Melo/Bosh/LeBron completely? We still need a big man.
What would our cap space situation look like?
Don't listen to that moron.
Lakers are aiming all trades/free agents to expire as Kobe does (unless on rookie contracts). This is perfect for the Lakers to get THREE max free agents in 2016 as everyone expires.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 08:29 PM
Uh... he's unrestricted and played great in the playoffs. He's not a superstar so he isn't taking less to stay somewhere. He'll be looking to get paid.
We will see, but anyone would be foolish to overpay him. People understand the Pop system and what it does for players.
Forget all that, does anyone actually think he will be a quality starter? :oldlol: Please. PLEASE. Give me MCW any day over Patty.
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 08:29 PM
Ok so Nash & youngs contract basically cancel eachother out.
MCW contract would be basically the same as drafting a rookie
I'm assuming this barely affects our FA aspirations for this summers
:confusedshrug:
WeGetRing2012
06-20-2014, 08:30 PM
I haven't seen a whole bunch of MCW..
But damn does he look good on paper.
6"6 point guard who just put up 17/6/6/2 as a rookie and is only 22
Plus he's still on a rookie contract..
He is decent but he was given the green light on team that managed to lose 22 games in a row. :no:
He could possibly be your 3rd or 4th guy on a team but definitely not a #2 to Kobe. And I definitely don't see him leading a team to championship being a #2 guy.
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:30 PM
Don't listen to that moron.
Lakers are aiming all trades/free agents to expire as Kobe does (unless on rookie contracts). This is perfect for the Lakers to get THREE max free agents in 2016 as everyone expires.
So we're going to punt the next two years? Or do you think we could do something with this roster short term?
NoGunzJustSkillz
06-20-2014, 08:31 PM
He is decent but he was given the green light on team who managed to lose 22 games in a row. :no:
He could possibly be your 3rd or 4th guy on a team but definitely not a #2 to Kobe. And I definitely don't see him leading a team to championship being a #2 guy.
if this trade goes down it'll be kobe 1, thad 2, mcw 3
NoGunzJustSkillz
06-20-2014, 08:32 PM
So we're going to punt the next two years? Or do you think we could do something with this roster short term?
it'll all depend on how kobe looks.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 08:32 PM
Ok so Nash & youngs contract basically cancel eachother out.
MCW contract would be basically the same as drafting a rookie
I'm assuming this barely affects our FA aspirations for this summers
:confusedshrug:
Well in reality, Thad and MCW would be contributors...solid starters at the worst. That gives you SOME semblance of a roster to show a free agent.
But who is anyone kidding...Lakers aren't getting any big name FA. More likely are the Luol Deng's of the world.
MVBallin2K
06-20-2014, 08:32 PM
I think what I hate about this trade is that we already had a guy like Farmar who isn't a MCW at all but is a reasonable point guard who can handle the offense along with Kendall Marshall who made strides to get better.
What the Lakers need to draft or trade for is a dominant big man which I know there aren't a ton of but that's their main concern. They need someone who can protect the rim first and foremost because defense as the main issue last year. I'm not against getting a really talented PG but not at the expense of another hole that needs to be filled.
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 08:33 PM
****. Is he a defensive stopper?
I mean, if they did this, they still have other roster needs. Would this take us out of the running for Love/Melo/Bosh/LeBron completely? We still need a big man.
What would our cap space situation look like?
From what I've heard he's a very good defender. Above average. This wouldn't really affect our cap space since Young pretty much replaces Nash's contract. We can still offer a max contract, but how does the chemistry work? There's only one ball. How does MCW develop without having the ball in his hands.
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:35 PM
So we're going to punt the next two years? Or do you think we could do something with this roster short term?
No punting. MCW is good, and Thad is legitimate. Get another couple of guys on 1/2 year contracts and the Lakers can try to compete the next two years while they wait for Love and whoever else to expire.
Trust me, the Lakers will not be tanking in the next couple of years.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 08:35 PM
I think what I hate about this trade is that we already had a guy like Farmar who isn't a MCW at all but is a reasonable point guard who can handle the offense along with Kendall Marshall who made strides to get better.
What the Lakers need to draft or trade for is a dominant big man which I know there aren't a ton of but that's their main concern. They need someone who can protect the rim first and foremost because defense as the main issue last year. I'm not against getting a really talented PG but not at the expense of another hole that needs to be filled.
The only hint of a dominant big man in this draft just got injured.
I think LA's best bets in keeping the pick are Randle/Smart. Star potential and instant contributors.
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 08:36 PM
Don't listen to that moron.
Lakers are aiming all trades/free agents to expire as Kobe does (unless on rookie contracts). This is perfect for the Lakers to get THREE max free agents in 2016 as everyone expires.
The headliner of the 2016 free agent class is Kevin Durant. After that the pickings go from slim to pretty shitty. 2014 and 2015 classes should be what we're aiming for. It makes no sense to give up a draft pick and not shed Nash's salary. I'd rather keep the pick and let him expire. And this is coming from someone who likes Carter Williams.
fpliii
06-20-2014, 08:38 PM
it'll all depend on how kobe looks.
From what I've heard he's a very good defender. Above average. This wouldn't really affect our cap space since Young pretty much replaces Nash's contract. We can still offer a max contract, but how does the chemistry work? There's only one ball. How does MCW develop without having the ball in his hands.
The good thing is, if Young can defend he can take a lot of pressure off of Kobe.
Does the extra year hurt us? Though Droid had mentioned the target year is 2016, so 1 or 2 years at the same price might not matter. Not sure.
No punting. MCW is good, and Thad is legitimate. Get another couple of guys one 1/2 year contracts and the Lakers can try to compete the next two years while they wait for Love and whoever else to expire.
Trust me, the Lakers will not be tanking in the next couple of years.
Which big man would you sign this offseason?
Akrazotile
06-20-2014, 08:38 PM
im not really a supporter of said move, but it does raise a few questions. how much capspace would that give the lakers? because the only reason i see them doing that, is in hopes of signing melo this offseason
mcw
kobe
melo
young
kaman/hill?
kind of an interesting line up.
'Interesting' as in... it sucks dick?
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:39 PM
The headliner of the 2016 free agent class is Kevin Durant. After that the pickings go from slim to pretty shitty. 2014 and 2015 classes should be what we're aiming for. It makes no sense to give up a draft pick and not shed Nash's salary. I'd rather keep the pick and let him expire. And this is coming from someone who likes Carter Williams.
Even with Thad or Nash's contract next year, we can still grab Love. That's the beauty of it.
Then, everyone expires but Love and our rookie contract guys after 2016.
NoGunzJustSkillz
06-20-2014, 08:40 PM
The good thing is, if Young can defend he can take a lot of pressure off of Kobe.
Does the extra year hurt us? Though Droid had mentioned the target year is 2016, so 1 or 2 years at the same price might not matter. Not sure.
Which big man would you sign this offseason?
no because if this trade went down, i'd assume thad would be apart of the lakers long term plans.
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:40 PM
Anyway, I don't know if this rumor is true. Either way, I think it's all right. If anything Thad is a good expirer to trade during the season next year or over next year's summer.
JimmyMcAdocious
06-20-2014, 08:41 PM
Any perspective from the Sixers side? Yes? No?
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:42 PM
Any perspective from the Sixers side? Yes? No?
GOBB has been in hiding forever and I don't know any other Sixers fans (are there any?).
Im so nba'd out
06-20-2014, 08:43 PM
GOBB has been in hiding forever and I don't know any other Sixers fans (are there any?).
:mad:
Rocketswin2013
06-20-2014, 08:43 PM
Philly is obviously tanking if they get Nash......But this shit could impact Houston. Hinkie will always be willing to help Morey more than anybody but could he really take Nash AND Lin's deal? Because I think that's what will happen. I'll peep this...
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 08:44 PM
Even with Thad or Nash's contract next year, we can still grab Love. That's the beauty of it.
Then, everyone expires but Love and our rookie contract guys after 2016.
KLove is going to be traded to a contender and re-sign there immediately this off season.
Let's just say that he doesn't re-sign for some bizarre reason...why in the hell would he go to the Lakers when there would be soooo many better situations out there in FA? K-Love himself said the other day that him and LA is way overblown as he just lived there one year.
Sad times as Lakers fans...things are looking bleak for a few years. FA is such a swing or miss type of thing. There's not just going to be a bunch of random awesome FA signing w/ the Lakers. There has to be someone there that's established. Kobe is past it now. Look at how Wade was established, so Bosh/LBJ came. Look at how Boston got Pierce/Allen, and then KG agreed to a trade.
It's not like 2-3 FA are just going to leave their previous teams and ALL go to a completely new team. Doesn't work that way.
alanLA92
06-20-2014, 08:45 PM
Like this trade but remember that the Lakers can't trade the pick until after draft day and choosing someone in that position. Wonder who the Sixers want at 7 since they will most likely decide for the Lakers.
Im so nba'd out
06-20-2014, 08:45 PM
Wow really classy. You're celebrating a potential career ending injury.
This is a cited rumor dumbass, and your opinion on wether the 76ers should trade with the Lakers means absolute dog shit
not celebrating.... and i have my sources were not ever trading with the lakers again believe what you want.
ProfessorMurder
06-20-2014, 08:45 PM
If Philly really gives up on MCW I'm going to be pissed. That kid is a stud, already proven, and will continue to get better. They lucked out getting him so late in the draft.
Dude's going to be a multiple time allstar, and he's already a solid defender with a lot of length for his position.
alanLA92
06-20-2014, 08:46 PM
JUST THE FACT THAT U LAKER FAKKITS THINK WE WOULD TRADE WITH YOU AFTER YOU BAMBOOZLED US ON THE BYNUM TRADE MAKES ME SO :mad: .WE WILL NEVERRRRRRRRR TRADE WITH YOU FAKKITS AGAIN.YOUR DOCTORS KNEW HE HAD ARTHRITIC KNEES AND DIDN'T TELL US!
http://thenewsportsguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/KobeInjuredWarriors.gif
He already had a history with injuries. Blame the Sixers FO for doing the trade when they knew his knees were a ticking time bomb. :lol
Im so nba'd out
06-20-2014, 08:47 PM
He already had a history with injuries. Blame the Sixers FO for doing the trade when they knew his knees were a ticking time bomb. :lol
Our future is brighter than the lakers....:lolnow :cry: later
Smook A.
06-20-2014, 08:51 PM
Philly is obviously tanking if they get Nash......But this shit could impact Houston. Hinkie will always be willing to help Morey more than anybody but could he really take Nash AND Lin's deal? Because I think that's what will happen. I'll peep this...
http://www.urbanhotspotradio.com/carlton.gif
Droid101
06-20-2014, 08:53 PM
KLove is going to be traded to a contender and re-sign there immediately this off season.
Let's just say that he doesn't re-sign for some bizarre reason...why in the hell would he go to the Lakers when there would be soooo many better situations out there in FA? K-Love himself said the other day that him and LA is way overblown as he just lived there one year.
Sad times as Lakers fans...things are looking bleak for a few years. FA is such a swing or miss type of thing. There's not just going to be a bunch of random awesome FA signing w/ the Lakers. There has to be someone there that's established. Kobe is past it now. Look at how Wade was established, so Bosh/LBJ came. Look at how Boston got Pierce/Allen, and then KG agreed to a trade.
It's not like 2-3 FA are just going to leave their previous teams and ALL go to a completely new team. Doesn't work that way.
With the new CBA, there is no reason to ever agree to sign an extension. You can get longer years and more money if you wait to expire. If he did that, he'd be stupid.
If you think he'll be traded to a "contender" this off season and sign an extension, so be it. But he's wanted to come to LA for a long time now. You can't discount that.
Anyway, yeah, it does work like that. Bosh/bran/Wade all left opt outs in their contracts for the same year (usually doesn't happen) so they could sign together for whoever had the space. It happens, and it will happen again.
alanLA92
06-20-2014, 08:53 PM
Our future is brighter than the lakers....:lolnow :cry: later
but yet you're crying about the past. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 08:54 PM
Does the extra year hurt us? Though Droid had mentioned the target year is 2016, so 1 or 2 years at the same price might not matter. Not sure.
It doesn't hurt cap space this year because you replace Nash with Thad Young, but it does next year if you want to sign 2 major free agents. That's why I'd rather do something like 7th and Nash for 10th + a couple 2nd rounders. You'd have 30 million in cap space + a rookie in a strong free agent class. Versus having MCW, Thad Young and Kobe + less than 20 million in cap space this year and possibly next. You could still sign a 1 super star but after that your choices are limited.
Even with Thad or Nash's contract next year, we can still grab Love. That's the beauty of it.
Then, everyone expires but Love and our rookie contract guys after 2016.
No way Love enters 2015 without an extension. Timberwolves won't just let him walk for nothing so you can cross him off the list. Aldridge, Rondo and Gasol are all possibilities next year so still a pretty good crop.
nevetslc88
06-20-2014, 08:54 PM
this was a rumor made up by some random person on ESPN radio.
now these twitter hacks are trying to report it as true. :oldlol:
Im so nba'd out
06-20-2014, 08:54 PM
but yet you're crying about the past. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
http://thenewsportsguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/KobeInjuredWarriors.gif :applause:
Droid101
06-20-2014, 09:00 PM
Extend and trades will not happen any more with the new CBA. At least for max/near-max players.
D-Rose
06-20-2014, 09:00 PM
this was a rumor made up by some random person on ESPN radio.
now these twitter hacks are trying to report it as true. :oldlol:
I believe Steve Kyler first said that he heard about it from a source, but Ryne Russillo from ESPN said the same. I don't think it will happen.
alanLA92
06-20-2014, 09:00 PM
http://thenewsportsguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/KobeInjuredWarriors.gif :applause:
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/losing-streak1.jpg
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Ok I'm done.
bagelred
06-20-2014, 09:01 PM
Hmmmm....maybe the Sixers just want to "sell high" on MCW. Maybe they don't think he's as good as the hype around him right now, so why not turn him into another high draft pick...interesting.
Duggrr
06-20-2014, 09:16 PM
That is an absolute steal for the Lakers. Thad Young is a borderline all star player and MCW has all star potential (Already is borderline.)
HurricaneKid
06-20-2014, 09:23 PM
MCW is awful. He is among the league leaders in TOs, he shot 36% on the season and he is far older than people think (less time for natural improvement).
WAAaaayyy overrated.
But the Lakers would still be dumb not to take this deal. Thad is a BALLER. I'll take any bets right now that he would lead the Lakers in WS next season. And dumping Nash's salary is a big coup.
If Lakers are so arrogant to believe that they are going to get a bunch of stars to sign there... Well its laughable. And Young is only 25 and is entering his prime. 9.5MM is entirely reasonable for him.
Philly is going to take out its only good player, add three more lotto picks (including Nerlins who didn't play next year) and will be bad enough this year to get another high end player next draft. They will have PILES of youth. Pretty much the blueprint for breaking a team down to build it back up.
Im so nba'd out
06-20-2014, 09:28 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/losing-streak1.jpg
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Ok I'm done.
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TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 09:40 PM
MCW is awful. He is among the league leaders in TOs, he shot 36% on the season and he is far older than people think (less time for natural improvement).
WAAaaayyy overrated.
But the Lakers would still be dumb not to take this deal. Thad is a BALLER. I'll take any bets right now that he would lead the Lakers in WS next season. And dumping Nash's salary is a big coup.
If Lakers are so arrogant to believe that they are going to get a bunch of stars to sign there... Well its laughable. And Young is only 25 and is entering his prime. 9.5MM is entirely reasonable for him.
Philly is going to take out its only good player, add three more lotto picks (including Nerlins who didn't play next year) and will be bad enough this year to get another high end player next draft. They will have PILES of youth. Pretty much the blueprint for breaking a team down to build it back up.
Why do people blatantly lie?
HurricaneKid
06-20-2014, 09:46 PM
Why do people blatantly lie?
My bad. Might have been 36% after a certain date.
In any event the league avg TS% is .536.
He shot .480.
.056 means he loses to league avg by ~5 pts a game.
IGOTGAME
06-20-2014, 09:46 PM
Seems like a good deal to me. MCW is talented and being around Kobe will help him as a scorer.
IGOTGAME
06-20-2014, 09:48 PM
My bad. Might have been 36% after a certain date.
In any event the league avg TS% is .536.
He shot .480.
.056 means he loses to league avg by ~5 pts a game.
and this means absolutely nothing. make a point instead of just posting random statistics with no assertions attached.
TheMarkMadsen
06-20-2014, 09:50 PM
My bad. Might have been 36% after a certain date.
In any event the league avg TS% is .536.
He shot .480.
.056 means he loses to league avg by ~5 pts a game.
He was a rookie point guard on a terrible team where he was expected to carry too much of the scoring load
I expected his FG% to be in the low 40s. If he begins taking around 12 shots per game instead of 16 I expect his effeciency to go way up.
coin24
06-20-2014, 09:52 PM
Get it done Mitch :cheers:
Any deal that gets rid of Nash is tops, or that turns #7 into a proven talent go for it:rockon:
Also add melo or love thanks Mitch
Meticode
06-20-2014, 09:53 PM
Wow with the Embiid injury and the Cavs possibly taking Wiggins totally screwed up everything for Philly.
longtime lurker
06-20-2014, 10:03 PM
I'd rather take on MCW and 3 2nd rounders for 7 and Nash. Even though I still believe MCW and Kobe is a bad fit.
no pun intended
06-20-2014, 10:31 PM
If I were the Lakers front office, I would try to get this done with a full head of steam. MCW for the pick is a toss-up, but Nash for Young is a steal.
stalkerforlife
06-20-2014, 10:33 PM
Y'all really think Kobe is going to let LA sit idly on their hands and not give him a chance at another title?
Bitch, please.
DStebb716
06-20-2014, 10:43 PM
Shoutout to the people low-starring a rare thread that provides actual information.
coin24
06-20-2014, 10:45 PM
Shoutout to the people low-starring a rare thread that provides actual information.
They're jealous cause it's the mighty lakers as always..
5 starred:cheers:
DStebb716
06-20-2014, 10:55 PM
They're jealous cause it's the mighty lakers as always..
5 starred:cheers:
:cheers:
HOoopCityJones
06-20-2014, 10:56 PM
Shoutout to the people low-starring a rare thread that provides actual information.
None of these chumps want the Lakers to get better, they're having too much fun watching usual Lottery Teams like Golden State, Clippers and Houston be relevant.
VIntageNOvel
06-20-2014, 10:59 PM
i dont get it,
why they want to move MCW, he is a stud
they have a bright future with a lot of young core
unless they want to draft exum
HOoopCityJones
06-20-2014, 11:03 PM
i dont get it,
why they want to move MCW, he is a stud
they have a bright future with a lot of young core
unless they want to draft exum
You got it.
I hear they're really high on Exum. They thought they had a chance at Wiggins, but I guess now with Embiid's injury shaking up the Draft they don't wanna force two ball dominant guards to play with each other.
VIntageNOvel
06-20-2014, 11:08 PM
You got it.
I hear they're really high on Exum. They thought they had a chance at Wiggins, but I guess now with Embiid's injury shaking up the Draft they don't wanna force two ball dominant guards to play with each other.
MCW-Parker-Noel
or
MCW-Wiggin-Noel
would be nice
but with embiid stock plummeting
wiggin and parker is as good as gone on a third pick
Styles p
06-20-2014, 11:16 PM
wtf i hate this as a sixers fan. what are we gonna trade our pg every year? :banghead:
chocolatethunder
06-20-2014, 11:23 PM
<10 Mil
I think he's good value in general.
It's funn you say that because I think he's a good value too at around 8 million but he's not viewed as a good value around the league. They had difficulty trading him this past year because the feeling aroind the league was that he made too much for what he is as a player.
no pun intended
06-21-2014, 12:04 AM
wtf i hate this as a sixers fan. what are we gonna trade our pg every year? :banghead:
But hey, you perhaps got a steal in that Holiday trade.
raprap
06-21-2014, 12:37 AM
Do it philly. Mcw is overrated anyway.
hawkfan
06-21-2014, 12:39 AM
Good trade for both teams.
Sixers get Nash (expirer) and can swap him out again for a second pick (a la Danny Granger).
Cocaine80s
06-21-2014, 12:59 AM
I guess this means Sixers want Exum
All Net
06-21-2014, 02:25 AM
Deal makes sense, Philly playing it smart.
JimmyMcAdocious
06-21-2014, 03:02 AM
I don't understand why an MCW-Exum backcourt won't work. Shooting might be a concern, but if you surrounded them with a stud d&3 wing and a stretch 4, the spacing would be fine and that team would shit on people.
MCW/Exum/(someone like)Ariza/(someone like)Milsap-or-Marion/Noel.
Completely possible and mismatch hell, imo. Exum at 3. Then use the 10th pick on Aaron Gordon and hope to God he develops somewhat close to his ceiling. Just got to find that d&3 somewhere. Don't need to do it all in one year. That lineup next season would be near the top of the draft in 2015 anyway. Maybe Oubre or Stanley Johnson in 2015.
Cocaine80s
06-21-2014, 03:16 AM
I don't understand why an MCW-Exum backcourt won't work. Shooting might be a concern, but if you surrounded them with a stud d&3 wing and a stretch 4, the spacing would be fine and that team would shit on people.
MCW/Exum/(someone like)Ariza/(someone like)Milsap-or-Marion/Noel.
Completely possible and mismatch hell, imo. Exum at 3. Then use the 10th pick on Aaron Gordon and hope to God he develops somewhat close to his ceiling. Just got to find that d&3 somewhere. Don't need to do it all in one year. That lineup next season would be near the top of the draft in 2015 anyway. Maybe Oubre or Stanley Johnson in 2015.
Lmao Exum, MCW, and Gordon would be terrible
Bimbo Coles
06-21-2014, 03:28 AM
Lol. It just goes to show you how absurd the promise of the draft is. MCW >>> Exum (and probably anyone from this draft in a season's time: do you realistically expect anyone to make 17, 6, 6?) Brett Brown is an idiot (for pushing for the Aussie).This all leads to a bottomless pit for the Sixers.
JimmyMcAdocious
06-21-2014, 03:30 AM
Meh, the 3 and 4 can be changed. I like Gordon more than most. You're overlooking or ignoring the premise.
Do you not agree that an MCW/Exum/D&3/stretch 4/Noel would work fine? The tempo and versatility on offense would be great. MCW and supposedly Exum can defend. They both have enough size and athleticism to defend either guard. Add the D&3 and Noel's shotblocking and overall defensive impact if his high school and college stuff transfers over...
I like it. :confusedshrug:
GimmeThat
06-21-2014, 03:31 AM
they haven't seen Noel to declare who their franchise guy is yet.
they must be really really high on Exum. when given the ball.
raprap
06-21-2014, 03:42 AM
Lol. It just goes to show you how absurd the promise of the draft is. MCW >>> Exum (and probably anyone from this draft in a season's time: do you realistically expect anyone to make 17, 6, 6?) Brett Brown is an idiot (for pushing for the Aussie).This all leads to a bottomless pit for the Sixers.
Mcw stats has blinded you bro. He is nothing special really aside from his length and defense.
VIntageNOvel
06-21-2014, 03:47 AM
Mcw stats has blinded you bro. He is nothing special really aside from his length and defense.
but thats all what lakers need,
kobe can take the offensive load himself :rockon:
-Lebron23-
06-21-2014, 05:25 AM
Hinkie is a boss if he pulls this off
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